Bavarian minister likens games to child porn and drugs

Bavarian minister Joachim Herrmann has likened violent video games to child pornography and drugs in a new press release posted earlier today. Game Politics have provided a translation via one of their readers.

Herrmann was quoted saying:

"Such games are one of the causes for youth violence and also for school shootings, where images from killer games become reality." He continued saying that "more and more children are getting mired in this virtual world of violence", and "they have no time left for school or job training, and are lost to our society."

The press release follows after last month's school shooting in Winnenden when former high school pupil Tim Kretschmer killed 9 pupils, 3 teachers and 2 other members of the public as he made his escape. Since the shooting there has been a rise in government officials criticizing violent games, however Herrmann is a frequent critic and has gone one step further in his latest attack.

In the last line of the press release Herrmann goes on to say:

"In regards to their harmful effects, [violent video games] are on the same level as child pornography and illegal drugs, the ban on which rightly is unquestioned."

The press release comes on the same day as the German Games Awards and Video Game Conference took place in Munich. German game associations G.A.M.E, BIU and ESB have now released statements of their own and asked for an apology.

The German commissioner for the New Media Thomas Jarzombek, has criticized Herrmann's attack saying:

"The comparison is completely inappropriate... anyone making such statements is unqualified to participate in any further debate [regarding the] protection of minors from harmful media."

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Ha ha ha ha ha! I think someone is confuising "video games" with "lack of parenting".....

...yet again.

Hell I play video games so I DON'T shoot people. Its a great way to unwind and releave stress, just like exercising and therapy as well But to go as far to link them to child pornography is just insane. There are just to many things that can influence a person to do something like that, and just to try and nail one thing down because of a misunderstanding isn't the brightest thing to do. I can think of many things that could cause a child or a teenager to be unhappy, and so can everyone else, but dumping on one.... I just don't get liberals.

Article title is sort of misleading.. he's only likening violent games.. I came in all revved up that some moron thought ALL video games were bad.

Where the hell is Bavaria anyways? I thought that was a jewelery store.

*grins* That's my way of saying this guy isn't important enough to make the news.

splur said,
Where the hell is Bavaria anyways? I thought that was a jewelery store.

*grins* That's my way of saying this guy isn't important enough to make the news.

lrn2geography
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Oh, likens. When I first glanced at the headline I thought it said the Bavarian minister likes those things.

I dont think people are saying that violent video games CAUSE people to go violent. It's normal that all of you 'sane' people get all worked up. But what about those people that are NOT normal. You've got to admit they're greatly influenced by videogames and tv/movies.

Lets face it people who make claims like video games are linked to drugs and child porn are just scrambling to make a link to something to get paid!!

Some people will have mental problems in life, that’s just a fact, its as much TV and films that cause these people to go and do crazy things. Saying its just violent video games is a very wild statement, and as usual should just be ignored.

Now back to gta.... oh I mean little big planet!!!!

Is this guy actually suggesting that normal people have as much of an inclination to play games as they do to take illegal drugs and view child porn? The only difference being that because the last two are illegal they don't? Oh, wait...

Oh? That's nice. Let's just link video games to all of our shortcomings and problems. Sounds like a good idea, ehh? That way we can just turn our backs on the problem at hand.

Saying its like drugs is one thing, but child pornography? Come on...

Anyway, maybe violent behavior in German Children might have something to do with a violent German past. idk... just sayin.

Shadrack said,
Saying its like drugs is one thing, but child pornography? Come on...

Anyway, maybe violent behavior in German Children might have something to do with a violent German past. idk... just sayin.


that is a far-fetched statement. What happened in German past does not affect children of the current generation. Neonazis is a different story and you find them everywhere, even in the US. It's not a country specific problem.

starless.bible.black said,

that is a far-fetched statement. What happened in German past does not affect children of the current generation. Neonazis is a different story and you find them everywhere, even in the US. It's not a country specific problem.

though, neonazism is sort of more connected to Germany

(i'm not insulting Germany at all, its a problem they have, other countries have their problems. in other discussion i could include any other country, but Germany is cleary associated with this specific subject. accepting the past is a good thing, let's do it then )

people like this are everywhere (looking at the extreme republicans in my new home country). I used to be German until 2 years ago. He is from Bavaria and I am not surprised. Many things in that State, which would like to be its own country, are more than backwards. Of course he is an idiot as he has no clue what he is comparing. These are the same people that prohibit marijuana but have no problem with excessive alcohol consumption. Hope these people die off very soon.

I remember playing GTA 1,2 when I was 11-13 years old. Funny thing is, I never shot someone, robed a car or raped a girl. But, Mr. Herrmann surely knows better since he NEVER played games.

mr.r9 said,
I remember playing GTA 1,2 when I was 11-13 years old. Funny thing is, I never shot someone, robed a car or raped a girl. But, Mr. Herrmann surely knows better since he NEVER played games.

they are just looking for someone convenient to blame
CAUSE ITS NEVER THE PARENTS FAULT RIGHT

Neoauld said,
they are just looking for someone convenient to blame
CAUSE ITS NEVER THE PARENTS FAULT RIGHT

No, but it's not always the parent's fault either.

Let's not leap on "it's all the parents' fault" bandwagon. There are many reasons for these things to happen, including genetic issues.

Kirkburn said,

No, but it's not always the parent's fault either.

Let's not leap on "it's all the parents' fault" bandwagon. There are many reasons for these things to happen, including genetic issues.

I would rather say, social issues.
Social issues include PARENTS' FAULT because let's addmit it, we parents are bad sometimes and [social problems of children also include] things such as friendly and loving [and bullying] relationships, that can completely change a person, specially at childhood.

Genetics wont define most of who you are (in personality). They will mostly influence physical stuff. Physical stuff has always mental stuff associated, so i guess it influences a little.

I think that people who do these shootings have something already wrong with them, its not video games that caused them to shoot people.

KillerZ123 said,
I think that people who do these shootings have something already wrong with them, its not video games that caused them to shoot people.

In fact, I think that if they were to outright ban violent video games, people who have a violent tendency may perhaps be more inclined to act it out in the real world as opposed to within the virtual world of games...

they would have the same kind of incident that happened in the 1920's if they outlaw games, stop blaming games for bad parenting, they don't know jack crap about kids

KillerZ123 said,
I think that people who do these shootings have something already wrong with them, its not video games that caused them to shoot people.

I agree! Many people, including me, can play games and understand that they are different to reality.

If somebody plays GTW and decides to go around shooting people up, then it isn't the game that has caused that, they already have something wrong with them and have always been capable of doing that sometime in the future anyway. The game has just given them the idea at that time just like a news story about a shooting might give them that idea in the future.

d4v1d05 said,
In fact, I think that if they were to outright ban violent video games, people who have a violent tendency may perhaps be more inclined to act it out in the real world as opposed to within the virtual world of games...

Exactly. Could make the situation far worse. Rather have violent people playing video games than on the streets taking it out on me. I could just compare sever real games to violence. Football and Hockey rather violent. uh.. soccer or football quite violent and the fans as well.

jonhapimp said,
they would have the same kind of incident that happened in the 1920's if they outlaw games, stop blaming games for bad parenting, they don't know jack crap about kids

I like the idea they banned computer games way back in the 1920s :P I assume you mean the Prohibition (of alcohol) in the US.