Belkin buys Linksys

Well-known connectivity and networking company, Belkin, has announced today that they plan to purchase another well-known connectivity and networking company, Linksys, from Cisco. Belkin has entered an agreement that will see it purchase the Home Networking Business Unit from Cisco, which includes a swathe of technology, employees and of course the Linksys brand.

According to the press release from Belkin, they intend to maintain the Linksys brand as well as provide support for existing products and honor all existing and future Linksys warranties. When the acquisition has been finalized, Belkin estimates that they will hold approximately 30% of the United States "retail home and small business networking market".

Chet Pipkin, CEO of Belkin, said that they are "very excited about this announcement" as the two companies "share many core beliefs"; "Linksys will enhance Belkin’s capabilities to meet the needs of the service provider space and small business users". Belkin did not disclose how much it paid for the Home Networking Business Unit, and as they are a private company they likely won't even after the deal closes, which is expected to happen in March 2013.

Source: Belkin

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When Cisco bought Linksys one of the first things they did was discontinue every Linksys tech like the WRT54G's and things. That family of products have been dead a long time.

What a fool, Belkin!
Linksys is no longer a good brand!
I bought 2 Linksys devices in recent years and they all damaged in normal use in a few months!
I swear not to buy Linksys product anymore.

I can't stand belkin.... I got me an Asus router when my last one died WWDRT setup and all I'm rather happy.
Linksys routers say sold in Walmart are coming IPv6 enabled by default and there is no carrier in my area that have it so you are having to turn it off blah blahblah and the wireless settings are screwed up by default therefore any mom/pop type person that goes buy one is screwed or on tech support with them for hours.

Odd, had Linksys not been with Cisco, would have thought they would have been the ones to buy Belkin eventually

and t think i like my x3000 linksys and jsut got sick of netgears constant rehashed crap hell my dlink didntlast long either

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Oh well, my latest router was a superb Asus and I guess I will continue down that route now.

Jlobb2 said,
I think Linksys started its downward spiral when Cisco bought them.

Agree. I moved to NetGear and found them to be pretty decent. I guess Belkin are ok, I just dislike their name.

Never had a problem with any Belkin or D-Link or Linksys piece of equipment in my life!

Only issue I've ever had with any of the above is time. That is, over the course of time, the older stuff needed to be upgraded to accommodate for more speed.

I lied! I DID have one port on my first router, a D-Link, that quit working.

Oh great!
I'm with most, of the above, R.I.P. Linksys, because belkin is going to destroy your corpse, and your reputation.
(Had 6 Belkins, had problems, threw them all away when I got my E4200 not had a single problem since)

Oh dear... there goes Linksys... I once made a Belkin purchase and that was a very bad decision. Netgear will be my next router for sure!

What about D-Link? I'm using DIR-600 with DD-WRT and never looked back. Guess I'm not the only one that was under the impression Linksys was a good brand, but with this acquirement I don't see Linksys on a good path.

Belkin is a brand that I would rather see on surge protectors, mice, media storage or other crap like that.

Is this a joke?

I guess it's time to buy any good current Linksys products before they start to get ruined. (I'd rather check out WD's new routers though..)

FWIW, I use a D-Link router; been going strong for 7 years. Only reason I'd update it is for IPv6 and 10Gbps support, among other minor things.

Hell, maybe I'll look into running pfsense or something related by the time I need to move on.

DAOWAce said,
Is this a joke?

I guess it's time to buy any good current Linksys products before they start to get ruined. (I'd rather check out WD's new routers though..)

FWIW, I use a D-Link router; been going strong for 7 years. Only reason I'd update it is for IPv6 and 10Gbps support, among other minor things.

Hell, maybe I'll look into running pfsense or something related by the time I need to move on.


Linksys hasn't made anything good for a looooong time...

Linksys (with their recent products) was crap anyways, so having them bought out by an even more crap company is kind of sad.

Well-known connectivity and networking company??

To be honest i have always thought of them as surge protectors company.

iwod said,
Well-known connectivity and networking company??

To be honest i have always thought of them as surge protectors company.

LOL

My thoughts exactly! Surge protectors, mice and media storage. . .where the HECK did they come up with the funds to buy Linksys?! Privately held company means they could have their fingers in Heaven-only-knows what kinda pies.

All these routers all use the exact same chipsets as each other. There is nothing special in a belkin,or a linksys. The only difference are their interfaces that let you configure the router. All the configuration information gets written to registers in these chipsets,and the hardware does everything.

vcfan said,
All these routers all use the exact same chipsets as each other. There is nothing special in a belkin,or a linksys. The only difference are their interfaces that let you configure the router. All the configuration information gets written to registers in these chipsets,and the hardware does everything.

The majority of us either run AMD or Intel processors and probably either have video cards by Intel/AMD/Nvidia.. What version of drivers do you run? What operating system do you run? Can make a big difference in performance/features/reliability/security. Not just how the page you view on your screen looks. Turns out a lot of cell phones these days run ARM processors but it is not just a different interface running on a iPhone vs a Windows phone.

vcfan said,
All these routers all use the exact same chipsets as each other. There is nothing special in a belkin,or a linksys. The only difference are their interfaces that let you configure the router. All the configuration information gets written to registers in these chipsets,and the hardware does everything.

Not really some use Broadcom, some use Atheros, some use Realtek, some have TI, they vary greatly.

So far my Netgear WNDR 4500 has handled TiVos, smartphones, print serving, desktop. VoIP and laptops. It even lets me know when a firmware update is available. When I retired my 10 yr, old WRT54G, I got a WRT120M-RM. It performed so badly, I'll not ever look at Linksys again.

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened. /sad panda

Cisco/Linksys has been garbage. Their EA6500 is junk along with the rest of the consumer line. Belkin is crap too. Asus and Netgear are the clear winners here. My RT-AC66R is solid as a rock.

Mikee4fun said,
Cisco/Linksys has been garbage. Their EA6500 is junk along with the rest of the consumer line. Belkin is crap too. Asus and Netgear are the clear winners here. My RT-AC66R is solid as a rock.

There is DLink too.

Mikee4fun said,
Cisco/Linksys has been garbage. Their EA6500 is junk along with the rest of the consumer line. Belkin is crap too. Asus and Netgear are the clear winners here. My RT-AC66R is solid as a rock.

Unfortunately my Netgear took a hit and support wanted to drag me around when I explained to them I was having intermittent wireless drops on ALL devices. Of course it happened near the warranty end period but they could of still replaced it.

P.S. - The circuit ground shorted and blew the router. Somehow managing to go through 2 surge supressors but not damaging anything else except the router. The entire NVRam chip was wiped after about 4 boot attempts including the partitioning. This resulted in the mac address to literally be FF:FF:FF:00:00:00 until I figured out how to restore it to a proper state. Had to open it up and use a serial cable to reprogram it to a proper state. Took me 6 hours. The wireless issues were discovered later.

The hardware level mac address should never be on the same chip that stores the user settings for the router. That's what happened on mine.

Mikee4fun said,
Cisco/Linksys has been garbage. Their EA6500 is junk along with the rest of the consumer line. Belkin is crap too. Asus and Netgear are the clear winners here. My RT-AC66R is solid as a rock.

Agreed. I'm having a hard time deciding which brand is worse...

Well, if it was under warranty I would have replaced it. I would personally get a UPS, because power surge strips are useless, they clamp the voltage but that is not enough. I have seen many client's in which their PSU, MB, and other things still got hosed. only using a power surge strip. Depending on if you have cable or DSL, there could have also been a voltage spike which came through the ISP modem to the router as well. I have seen melted Ethernet ports from this too. Nice troubleshooting BTW. =)

This seals it, my next network device will not be a Linksys and I won't be recommending them anymore. Glad I switched to Asus.

droidkid said,
All I'm thinking about is Belkins terrible products Thank God I picked up an Asus with dd-WRT

Agreed.... but glad I got my Amped Wireless R10000 it's been awesome!

Cisco IOS > dd-WRT any day of the week.

Dump the toys and get a proper enterprise router Cisco Gear FTW! everything from NIPS to HTTPS inspection to RADIUS accounts and WPA 2 Enterprise.

Once you get your hands on some enterprise cisco gear there's no going back to consumer crap custom firmware or no custom firmware.

TPreston said,
Cisco IOS > dd-WRT any day of the week.

Dump the toys and get a proper enterprise router Cisco Gear FTW! everything from NIPS to HTTPS inspection to RADIUS accounts and WPA 2 Enterprise.

Once you get your hands on some enterprise cisco gear there's no going back to consumer crap custom firmware or no custom firmware.

Yay, you spent lots of extra money on a Cisco device for a home router.

My 10 year old Linksys 802.11g router supports WPA2 Enterprise and authentication against a Radius server/accounts with DD-WRT. As far as NIPS and HTTPS protocol analysis, well.. Doubt home users are going to have the need. If so, pretty sure I can build a home router for cheaper then a Cisco device to do it.

With that said.. Like many have said above, not a big fan of Belkin devices. Make me worry about my next choice for access points at home. Been using a BSD/Linux based OS on a spare PC for a router for some time now instead of a off the shelf home router or overkill Cisco enterprise device.

TPreston said,
Cisco IOS > dd-WRT any day of the week.

Dump the toys and get a proper enterprise router Cisco Gear FTW! everything from NIPS to HTTPS inspection to RADIUS accounts and WPA 2 Enterprise.

Once you get your hands on some enterprise cisco gear there's no going back to consumer crap custom firmware or no custom firmware.

There is absolutely no doubt that Cisco firmware is the best for enterprise solutions and if you have the wallet, an ultra-secure and sophisticated home network. However for hackers and people who want to tailor their OS to do all sorts of stuff dd-wrt is the best

bilemke said,

Yay, you spent lots of extra money on a Cisco device for a home router.

My 10 year old Linksys 802.11g router supports WPA2 Enterprise and authentication against a Radius server/accounts with DD-WRT. As far as NIPS and HTTPS protocol analysis, well.. Doubt home users are going to have the need. If so, pretty sure I can build a home router for cheaper then a Cisco device to do it.

With that said.. Like many have said above, not a big fan of Belkin devices. Make me worry about my next choice for access points at home. Been using a BSD/Linux based OS on a spare PC for a router for some time now instead of a off the shelf home router or overkill Cisco enterprise device.

At one point you could get the gear you needed off of ebay for pretty cheap. It's usually a few generations old and targeted for those learning iOS for Cisco Certifications but usually if you got the right stuff you could make it work.

As a Cisco guy dd-wrt was disappointing, I expected more than just a thin web interface and basic Linux networking commands. Still, IOS has no place on a home router. Most users would not be able to figure out how to make IOS do even what a basic SOHO router can, assuming they even get it working. True, Cisco's web interface is getting a lot better, but its still meant for networking professionals, not casual home users. Heck, even most techies get white faced when they see a Cisco router.

JHBrown said,
I hate Belkins products. Oh Lord.............

Then it should be a match made in heaven, because they both make garbage...

same here, in my experience belkin router's are trash, some of the worst consumer routers (and thats bad considering how bad many consumer routers are)

Their surge protectors are decent though

Edited by ViperAFK, Jan 27 2013, 7:19pm :

My first router was a belkin.. it died, so I got a linksys. Let's hope they're buying more than the name (they could really use a cheatsheet/tech specs to teach'em a thing).

Teebor said,
Shouldn't be hard, Cisco was doing a good job of that on its own

FTFY. As far as I was aware, Linksys were doing pretty well for themselves prior to the Cisco deal.

Teebor said,
Shouldn't be hard, Linksys was doing a good job of that on its own

Agreed. Linksys hasn't been a good brand in years...

Or maybe Belkin realizes their routers suck so they bought Linksys with plans to discontinue their own line. Lets just hope they leave enough of the Linksys team in place to keep their products decent.

sphbecker said,
Or maybe Belkin realizes their routers suck so they bought Linksys with plans to discontinue their own line. Lets just hope they leave enough of the Linksys team in place to keep their products decent.

They'd have to hire someone to make Linksys products decent first...

Agreed, they are probably purchasing it for it's patents rather than to monopolize the market.

Belkin have a very successful line of products. If they Quietly purchase Linksys and allow it to operate individually that's fine by me. Its what they should do too.