Bell Mobility releasing two WP8 phones, no Lumia 920

Bell is one of the biggest names in Canadian cellular providers, though concerns were raised over what Bell was doing with Windows Phone 8 support. Now we know that they're planning to release two Windows Phone 8 handsets to their network  - and neither of them is the Lumia 920.

The Lumia 920 has caught quite a lot of attention, both for what it can do and what it can't, but there's no denying it has been heavily publicized. The specific handsets Bell intends to release aren't yet known, but the company is pretty open about what is being done.

If we were taking a guess, Bell's two WP8 handsets would be from HTC, who have promised awesome hardware, and Samsung's ATIV S, but this is speculation. They might even release a Lumia 920 at some point, if demand was enough to make it happen.

If the previous Lumia models are anything to go by, Nokia's entries are going to be something to keep an eye on, packing new features other phones don't officially have. I named the Lumia 800 as my favorite looking smartphone on the market, and Nokia seems to be maintaining a similar design style for the future.

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Rogers will be the Canadian exclusive carrier for the Lumia 920. The Lumia 800 was a dismal failure on Telus. The rest of the lumia line has done well on Rogers to date.

Considering the current Rogers affinity with Nokia phones, one can easily predict the Lumia 920 will be the carrier's flagship Windows Phone 8 device and that this deal is probably already done.

Now if Rogers could only step up and confirm, everything would be fine.

TheCyberKnight said,
Considering the current Rogers affinity with Nokia phones, one can easily predict the Lumia 920 will be the carrier's flagship Windows Phone 8 device and that this deal is probably already done.

Now if Rogers could only step up and confirm, everything would be fine.

Well Im want to see what Rogers has well, because I just found out Im locked into them till Feb of 2015 so WP8 with Rogers is my only option. But I am eliegble for an upgrade by December so its right on time for me. Wind is looking good for us Canucks since the pricing is reasonable and phone selection is good. WP8 on wind would be really good for everyone else but me.

No. It's not the assistant answering the question. It's their "team". Who knows what team it is, this guy is simply the messenger, because whoever wrote the email, sent it to the wrong department, as the CEO doesn't make the decision, people like the network engineers and whoever Nokia's sales reps deal with make the decisions.

And FYI, take what that staff member said on chat with a grain of salt. It's highly probable that he was talking out of his.... well you know.....

Farchord said,
And FYI, take what that staff member said on chat with a grain of salt. It's highly probable that he was talking out of his.... well you know.....

Given that it's an email from the assistant to Wade Oosterman (president of Bell Mobility), it's worth a little more than a grain of salt. Wasn't just some dumbass in the retail store saying it.

Wouldn't be unlike Bell to look at the buzz around the net and see that the Lumia 920 is highly anticipated...and then not bother to offer it.

Seen a few people on some more Canadian-centric forums related to mobile/tech already saying they were hoping to pick up this device and might be forced to look elsewhere.

technikal said,
Wouldn't be unlike Bell to look at the buzz around the net and see that the Lumia 920 is highly anticipated...and then not bother to offer it.

Seen a few people on some more Canadian-centric forums related to mobile/tech already saying they were hoping to pick up this device and might be forced to look elsewhere.

I'm still really hoping that Telus gets it, and I have been letting them know that. I would hate for Rogers to get an exclusive on this phone

Sraf said,

I'm still really hoping that Telus gets it, and I have been letting them know that. I would hate for Rogers to get an exclusive on this phone

I sure hope that Rogers doesn't get the exclusive with 920 like the did with the 900. That's probably what will happen though. Rogers will get the 920 and Telus will get the 820. I'm with Telus and want the 920 so I hope I'm wrong.

I wouldn't no in Canada but in the US people are not accustomed to do it. There is not really a phone market here. I guess it is also because of the CDMA technology that is used by Verizon or Spring - you have to buy the telephone from them otherwise the phone won't work.

In the US there is not even a proper SIM only subscription. For instance in many countries in Europe you'd choose to get a new phone with a contract from the network provider, or you'd come with your own phone and pay less subscription fees. I believe T-Mobile tried to this a few times in the US but it didn't really work that great.

Because their subscription fees never change (wether you get a phone or not), the only way they differentiate their phone pricing is by asking some additional money when you get a new subscription or when you extend your subscription. How much they ask is based on the telephone you want to get.

Radium said,
If I want a phone, I just go buy it and insert the SIM. Is that impossible in the USA and Canada?

I also don't buy phones like this in Australia. Sure, you can, but let's face it, no one wants to pay a lot of money for a high end device, especially when on a 24 month contract, they are free.

I then pay off another phone (later in the contract) to purchase another phone over 12/24 months on monthly interest free payments, and still receive the phone at a cheaper than RRP price.

So yeah, in the past 3 years, I've had, Xperia X1, iPhone 4, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, One X and S3.

No way I'd be able to buy all of them outright.

Nashy said,

I also don't buy phones like this in Australia. Sure, you can, but let's face it, no one wants to pay a lot of money for a high end device, especially when on a 24 month contract, they are free.

I then pay off another phone (later in the contract) to purchase another phone over 12/24 months on monthly interest free payments, and still receive the phone at a cheaper than RRP price.

So yeah, in the past 3 years, I've had, Xperia X1, iPhone 4, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, One X and S3.

No way I'd be able to buy all of them outright.

If you don't plan on changing phones often then outright buying one unlocked is fine IMO. I got my phone unlocked for 500euros and I'll have it for 2 years by the time I get a new one so if you work it out, and because i"m not tied to some expensive carrier contract (I only pay 28 euros per month) then I'd say I actually paid less than someone would get the phone through the carrier for less initially but be stuck paying $40+ per month on their contract for 2 years.

GP007 said,

If you don't plan on changing phones often then outright buying one unlocked is fine IMO. I got my phone unlocked for 500euros and I'll have it for 2 years by the time I get a new one so if you work it out, and because i"m not tied to some expensive carrier contract (I only pay 28 euros per month) then I'd say I actually paid less than someone would get the phone through the carrier for less initially but be stuck paying $40+ per month on their contract for 2 years.

Take a look at our plans over here though. You aren't exactly locking yourself into a horrible situation like the US and Canada seem to.

Eg. I'm on the highest Vodafone monthly payment of $99. Unlimited calls and text, 4GB data.

The S3 I believe is available for free on the $79 cap, which offers something like $1000 worth of whatever, and 2GB data.

AtriusNY said,
In the US there is not even a proper SIM only subscription. For instance in many countries in Europe you'd choose to get a new phone with a contract from the network provider, or you'd come with your own phone and pay less subscription fees. I believe T-Mobile tried to this a few times in the US but it didn't really work that great.

T-Mobile has indeed tried to do this several times, and it failed each time. However, one thing you've got to say about T-Mobile is that they keep trying.

Currently, T-Mobile's contract-free prepaid service is called Monthly4G. In addition to giving up a subsidized phone, you will also give up roaming. But you also pay much lower prices than the on-contract plans.

They used to have a postpaid SIM-only plan called Even More, in which you'd give up the subsidy in return for a lower monthly payment. This appears to have been dropped, as it saw very little adoption. T-Mobile is now focusing on prepaid for its BYOD service.

TomJones said,

T-Mobile has indeed tried to do this several times, and it failed each time. However, one thing you've got to say about T-Mobile is that they keep trying.

Currently, T-Mobile's contract-free prepaid service is called Monthly4G. In addition to giving up a subsidized phone, you will also give up roaming. But you also pay much lower prices than the on-contract plans.

They used to have a postpaid SIM-only plan called Even More, in which you'd give up the subsidy in return for a lower monthly payment. This appears to have been dropped, as it saw very little adoption. T-Mobile is now focusing on prepaid for its BYOD service.

Over here, prepaid plans are pretty close to post paid plans. You don't get a free phone, but they are still discounted below retail through the subsidies, but it is locked to the network.

Radium said,
If I want a phone, I just go buy it and insert the SIM. Is that impossible in the USA and Canada?

In Canada I know you can use pretty much any phone you want with any of the major carriers (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Virgin) but are limited with some on the some of the smaller carriers (Koodo, Wind Mobile, etc). There is a very small userbase for the smaller carriers so I'd say yes, you can grab a phone from anywhere and use it here in Canada. I know the US is different.

Nashy said,

Take a look at our plans over here though. You aren't exactly locking yourself into a horrible situation like the US and Canada seem to.

Eg. I'm on the highest Vodafone monthly payment of $99. Unlimited calls and text, 4GB data.

The S3 I believe is available for free on the $79 cap, which offers something like $1000 worth of whatever, and 2GB data.

I pay $40 a month for unlimited talk text and data in canada.

GP007 said,

If you don't plan on changing phones often then outright buying one unlocked is fine IMO. I got my phone unlocked for 500euros and I'll have it for 2 years by the time I get a new one so if you work it out, and because i"m not tied to some expensive carrier contract (I only pay 28 euros per month) then I'd say I actually paid less than someone would get the phone through the carrier for less initially but be stuck paying $40+ per month on their contract for 2 years.

Guess I'm one of the lucky few that got an Xperia S 32gb from carrier (24 months contract) for 27,50 (Euros)

Or am I just looking at the cheapest stuff available? ;p

Geranium_Z__NL said,

Guess I'm one of the lucky few that got an Xperia S 32gb from carrier (24 months contract) for 27,50 (Euros)

Or am I just looking at the cheapest stuff available? ;p

Or some would say that they gave you it for so cheap because it doesn't sell well. Suppose it depends on how you look at it.

I got mine unlocked, 500, and pay the 28 a month deal. Had I still went with this plan I'd still have to pay a good chunk to get the phone, since it was new, from the carrier. Maybe not the full price but then again in order to save more on the device I'd have to pay more per month on a more expensive plan, say 50 per month in order to get the phone itself for 250 or something. The difference between the cost of the plans means, the way I see it, I'm still saving by buying the phone unlocked.

This just all depends on what someone wants, if I wanted more data I'd be paying around 45-48 per month so with that I'd be spending more.