Bill Gates and Carlos Slim, the two richest men in the world, briefly team up

Bill Gates is worth more than almost anybody else on the planet and this week the chairman of Microsoft had a rare team up with the only person who is richer than him; Mexican telecommunications mogul Carlos Slim.

The Miami Herald reports that Gates and Slim got together in Texcoco, Mexico to give their support for the International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center, which has been in place for over 50 years. Gates and Slim have donated a total of $25 million to build a new laboratory that will help the center develop new ways to increase crop yields and thus save billions from starvation.

The article talks about how both Gates and Slim have been seen in the past as highly ruthless in their management of their companies. However, since leaving the day-to-day activities at Microsoft, Gates has turned his image around and is now seen as a man who really wants to help people with his money. Gates is currently worth about $64.4 billion.

On the other hand, Slim has been slower to give out his money. He's estimated to be worth $77.5 billion. Yet, his philosophy is that he helps people more by trying to add more jobs. In September he was quoted as saying:

We have seen donations for 100 years ... We have seen thousands of people working in nonprofits, and the problems and poverty are bigger. They have not solved anything.

So far, Slim has yet to commit to signing the "Giving Pledge", a project by Gates that asks all billionaires to donate at least half of their net worth to charities.

Source: Miami Herald | Images via Microsoft and Agência Brasil


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Source: Miami Herald | Images via Microsoft and Agência Brasil
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Saw some interesting comments, I'm Mexican myself, but truth is absolute, and what rich people do is not bad, because we as poor people let them do it. I think is that simple. Maybe we don't like what some (or all) rich people do, but is just an opinion, maybe a very logical, argument ed opinion, but still an opinion.

As Gates once said: "Once you get beyond a million dollars, it's still the same hamburger". The perspective is different once you're rich, or once you're poor. It is simply easy to judge.

jasonon said,
Slim is a jerk. Help out your country, they're suffering lol

Gate is a jerk. Help out your country, they're suffering lol.

The mexican problem is not a isolated case, it is mainly an American trouble, specially since they are the main customers. In any case, excluding the drugs, the second problem is the economy, and US of A is close to be broken, right now some states started cutting some expenses.

This is why I dont buy Gate's nice guy image. Slim is a gangster, a thief and a murderer. I would never associate with him in any way, no matter how much money that would mean.

I know about the topic, I'm also from Mexico...

I can say this about Slim, yes he has chaired a telecommunications monopoly, yes his cellular interconnection charges are brutal, and yes his monopoly damaged in some small amount the economy of my country for many years.

So much so that just yesterday new federal laws were voted just to keep his company under some rule.

Slim is not a good person, but I don't imagine getting to where he is by being one.

Having said that he is no murderer, that is just not truth at all, nor he is a gangster, just a regular bad person with only money on his mind.

Going on topic, as Sas Center is saying this is a good cause, I don't imagine 25 millions are going to solve any hunger problems, I hope they both give a bit more or at least call up some other billionaire friends to help the cause.

But at the same time they could do nothing at all and sit on their islands just laughing at all of us, and nobody could blame them.

So in the name of hungry people thanks, small, but thanks!

I do stand by my argument that he is a murderer. By capitalism's way to operate more resources for someone means less for someone else. A true humanitarian would not have become so rich in a country so poor. This just means economy inbalance and less chance for others. So yes, indirectly he is a murderer. Worse, a cynical murderer.

And no Sas Center, this is not for a good cause. People fail to understand that charity is tax deductible. All those millions Gates have given are giving him back more money and personal fame. The only kind of charity I believe in is anonymous one.

mizur said,
I know about the topic, I'm also from Mexico...

I can say this about Slim, yes he has chaired a telecommunications monopoly, yes his cellular interconnection charges are brutal, and yes his monopoly damaged in some small amount the economy of my country for many years.

So much so that just yesterday new federal laws were voted just to keep his company under some rule.

Slim is not a good person, but I don't imagine getting to where he is by being one.

Having said that he is no murderer, that is just not truth at all, nor he is a gangster, just a regular bad person with only money on his mind.

Going on topic, as Sas Center is saying this is a good cause, I don't imagine 25 millions are going to solve any hunger problems, I hope they both give a bit more or at least call up some other billionaire friends to help the cause.

But at the same time they could do nothing at all and sit on their islands just laughing at all of us, and nobody could blame them.

So in the name of hungry people thanks, small, but thanks!

+1

sanctified said,
I do stand by my argument that he is a murderer. By capitalism's way to operate more resources for someone means less for someone else. A true humanitarian would not have become so rich in a country so poor. This just means economy inbalance and less chance for others. So yes, indirectly he is a murderer. Worse, a cynical murderer.

And no Sas Center, this is not for a good cause. People fail to understand that charity is tax deductible. All those millions Gates have given are giving him back more money and personal fame. The only kind of charity I believe in is anonymous one.

You are completely correct on all that. There was an article on that very same thing I read a while back ago.

I don't know how tax works in the US (I tried to look on the IRS site, but it is basically accountant-speak gibberish to me), but I know in NZ you definitely don't get to claim it all back. You can claim for donations, but its only like a third that you get back (in NZ). Additionally, not claiming them back is kind of like a second donation to the government - screw that!

sanctified said,
I do stand by my argument that he is a murderer. By capitalism's way to operate more resources for someone means less for someone else. A true humanitarian would not have become so rich in a country so poor. This just means economy inbalance and less chance for others. So yes, indirectly he is a murderer. Worse, a cynical murderer.

Absolutely ridiculous. Money is not a finite resource. You can't wilfully deprive others of money by earning it yourself. Also you're basically saying that capitalism = murder.

IgorP said,

Absolutely ridiculous. Money is not a finite resource. You can't wilfully deprive others of money by earning it yourself. Also you're basically saying that capitalism = murder.

It isnt finite because money is virtual, but the amount of it it's arbitrary. If it wasnt then inflation happens. Are you implying that economical polarization is good?

The latest Forbes' survey is quite elocuent in my point: The top ten happiest countries in the world operate under a socialist or hybrid social-market regime (Canada was the only exception of the list, but we cant ignore that Canada is a liberal country).

So yes, capitalism is murder because capitalism operates under the premise of unequality.

sanctified said,

It isnt finite because money is virtual, but the amount of it it's arbitrary. If it wasnt then inflation happens. Are you implying that economical polarization is good?

The latest Forbes' survey is quite elocuent in my point: The top ten happiest countries in the world operate under a socialist or hybrid social-market regime (Canada was the only exception of the list, but we cant ignore that Canada is a liberal country).

So yes, capitalism is murder because capitalism operates under the premise of unequality.

No I clearly wasn't implying that since I didn't mention it at all either directly or indirectly.

Surveys that claim to measure "happiness" are dubious at best. In any case the merits of different forms of government are not at issue here.

Capitalism is NOT by any stretch of the imagination murder. Saying that it is, is just hyperbole. Nor does working and making money in a capitalist system make you a murderer.

If we follow your logic, what is the financial cut-off where you graduate from ordinary citizen to murderer? $100,000? $1 mill? 10?

IgorP said,

No I clearly wasn't implying that since I didn't mention it at all either directly or indirectly.

Really? Because capitalism thrives on economic polarization, precisely from the arbitrary amount of money. An inmense simplification, yes, but an accurate one. So yes, by supporting capitalism you support the very basic principle of it: In order to become rich others must be poor.

And no, this is not hyperbole. It is really how it works.

Read Lacan, Derrida, Jameson, Harvey and Zizek for more information.

sanctified said,

Really? Because capitalism thrives on economic polarization, precisely from the arbitrary amount of money. An inmense simplification, yes, but an accurate one. So yes, by supporting capitalism you support the very basic principle of it: In order to become rich others must be poor.

And no, this is not hyperbole. It is really how it works.

Read Lacan, Derrida, Jameson, Harvey and Zizek for more information.

In fact I was not supporting capitalism at all.

Furthermore if you had made that statement earlier I would have agreed with you and moved on with my day. I took issue with the fact that you equated capitalism with murder and those who work within it to murderers. Which IS very much hyperbole and saying such things does your point a disservice.

IgorP said,

In fact I was not supporting capitalism at all.

Furthermore if you had made that statement earlier I would have agreed with you and moved on with my day. I took issue with the fact that you equated capitalism with murder and those who work within it to murderers. Which IS very much hyperbole and saying such things does your point a disservice.

Can we agree that instead of hyperbole it was metonymy? I get carried away, this is a visceral matter for me since Slim is a mexican. My apologies.

sanctified said,
This is why I dont buy Gate's nice guy image. Slim is a gangster, a thief and a murderer. I would never associate with him in any way, no matter how much money that would mean.

Yeah Gates just gives away literally billions, because he cares so much about looking like a "nice guy" to others. And wiping out Malaria and stuff is just phase one of his evil master plan. Getting Slim to do something good for once is also part of Gates' plan.

Are you for real?

1Pixel said,

Yeah Gates just gives away literally billions, because he cares so much about looking like a "nice guy" to others. And wiping out Malaria and stuff is just phase one of his evil master plan. Getting Slim to do something good for once is also part of Gates' plan.

Are you for real?

You wouldn't believe how far someone with a narcissistic complex can go. If he cares so much, why don't give his billions anonymously?

1Pixel said,

Yeah Gates just gives away literally billions, because he cares so much about looking like a "nice guy" to others. And wiping out Malaria and stuff is just phase one of his evil master plan. Getting Slim to do something good for once is also part of Gates' plan.

Are you for real?

Yeah sure. Do you know why richest are "worried" about Africa?, simply, because most country in Africa can't be audited. Nobody could do a following and know if Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is doing it or simply moving money from one company to another.

sanctified said,

You wouldn't believe how far someone with a narcissistic complex can go. If he cares so much, why don't give his billions anonymously?

You can anonymously donate money to a charity, but you can't anonymously run a organization of this magnitude. He is not just giving away Billions, he is giving his time. No charity can ever afford a guy with power, influence and skills like that of Bill Gates. He can directly contact to top government officials of any country, governments feel pride in working with his organization. I guess his foundation is the only organization with that kind of access.

sanctified said,

Can we agree that instead of hyperbole it was metonymy? I get carried away, this is a visceral matter for me since Slim is a mexican. My apologies.

Isn't the proper term "Slim is Mexican"? Or is it "Slim is a Mexican"?

Srs.

Ezekiel Carsella said,
richest man in the world is a... Mexican!! GO MEXICANS!!

As a Mexican I hope you're joking. Slim has done extreme damage to Mexico's economy.