BitTorrent downloads linked to Hollywood film studios

There's a lot of pirated movies, TV shows, games and other copyrighted content that's transferred via BitTorrent web sites. Now there's a new web site, YouHaveDownloaded.com, that can not only trace the IP addresses that have been used for BitTorrent file downloading but also what kinds of files those IP addresses have accessed in their history.

Now TorrentFreak.com has decided to use the web site to see who is downloading what on these sites. The results show that IP addresses belonging to major Hollywood studios such as Fox, Sony and Universal have indeed been used to access pirated material from various location.

For example, a check of the IP address belonging to Sony shows that it has downloaded copy of the recent Conan the Barbarian remake. NBC Universal's IP address downloaded a copy of Cowboys and Aliens along with episodes of Game of Thrones and Two Broke Girls.. The Fox IP was used to download a copy of the recent movie Super 8.

While this is certainly interesting information, it's not 100 percent proof that employees at these companies are indeed downloading pirated material. As the article itself says, "An IP address is not a person, IP addresses can be shared among many people, and anyone can be behind a keyboard at any given time."

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wait wait. you guys got it all wrong.
The headline will read...

NBC studios/Sony/Universal/etc have been HACKED by HACKERS of BITTORRENT to use their super fast fibre lines to share pirated material amongst themselves with OUR super fast fibre lines!!

Wait - no that would be too ironic. Maybe they want to ensure these torrents are indeed their copyrighted material and log IP's of those who are downloading... Yeah.

It makes no sense, its like the police officer is on the evening news showing they did a huge cocaine bust - then a few hours later you go buy some coke from him... Its interesting this tracker can show these results on a $300/mth machine - but major label companies who go after these users are never counter-sued for also downloading and serving the movie on that day under their identical criteria and breaking the law themselves. theres likely a clause in there that protects them from also partaking in the distribution of copyright works though.

Leonick said,

Would be a good theory, if Conan had belonged to Sony, Game of Thrones had belong to NBC and so on...

Most likely someone is using their fast connection at work to torrent stuff

Exactly what !!! Trying to find who is downloading movies my hairy @ss...

"An IP address is not a person, IP addresses can be shared among many people, and anyone can be behind a keyboard at any given time."
Yea, but the company owns the IP and the company should be liable for not securing their connection... Content filtering doesn't exist at companys purely to stop employees from slacking off all day, it also exists to prevent situations the company can be liable for.

Duckie37 said,

Yea, but the company owns the IP and the company should be liable for not securing their connection...

To be honest, it might not even be machines that their staff are downloading/seeding from...
You say the company should be liable for not securing their connection, but shouldn't the same apply for the companies who forgo regular security checks on their web servers and basic code audits to ensure they are not exploitable... and that brings us right back to secure IPs and downloading.
See before Torrents, and I assume still even now, warez groups that were not part of the scene would find open servers with FTP sites or even use exploits on the servers to gain access and setup their own FTP/website or even IRC bots to share the warez with fellow pirates.

I'd assume there are still going to be people who'll hack a server and run a torrent seed. Are these studio's falling victim of hackers or once again lack of basic security on their servers?

warwagon said,
That's why I stopped using torrents 4+ Years ago. Usenet or File hosting FTW!

Private trackers are more secure.

But you should stop downloading illegally completely

I went to look at the website and it had a massive list of stuff on my IP that i would never ever think of downloading. So I think that website is BS.

Stoffel said,
I went to look at the website and it had a massive list of stuff on my IP that i would never ever think of downloading. So I think that website is BS.

Dynamic IP?

Stoffel said,
I went to look at the website and it had a massive list of stuff on my IP that i would never ever think of downloading. So I think that website is BS.

You have a dynamic ip. They are currently not filtering out dynamic ips but they have timestamps for the downloads.

Stoffel said,
I went to look at the website and it had a massive list of stuff on my IP that i would never ever think of downloading. So I think that website is BS.

You have a dynamic ip. They are currently not filtering out dynamic ips but they have timestamps for the downloads.

That site is bs anyway... I've downloaded more torrents than I could even remember and it says I've not downloaded any lol just a troll effect from the movie industry IMO.

sava700 said,
That site is bs anyway... I've downloaded more torrents than I could even remember and it says I've not downloaded any lol just a troll effect from the movie industry IMO.

They are currently tracking only 20% of public torrent traffic and their intention is to make people aware of the danger in non secured bittorrent downloads. Site creator said that they can even get a unique fingerprint of the machine downloading the torrents with the help of DHT and the torrent history they show has time stamps attached to them so it is easier to track down dynamic ips.

There are much wider implications than entrapment. There could potentially be legal ramifications in their lawsuits. How can Web sites and torrent sites be expected to prevent illegal content when the very companies who are fighting it can't prevent their own employees from participating in the pirating themselves.

nubsors said,
There are much wider implications than entrapment. There could potentially be legal ramifications in their lawsuits. How can Web sites and torrent sites be expected to prevent illegal content when the very companies who are fighting it can't prevent their own employees from participating in the pirating themselves.

OR just use whatever excuse they come up with against them. They say others are using their networks, or spoofing their ip... Then we can use that exact same defense against their suits, and we should come out as victorious as them.

nubsors said,
There are much wider implications than entrapment. There could potentially be legal ramifications in their lawsuits. How can Web sites and torrent sites be expected to prevent illegal content when the very companies who are fighting it can't prevent their own employees from participating in the pirating themselves.

umm.. hey dumbass ever heard of testing content? MAYBE they need to verify they have FULL copies of the movie to ENSURE the site is hosting pirated and copy-write material.. good thinking there.

They need to be caught red handed with the goods, umm..hello?!?! This is how they catch people, on this date, they were able to download this movie and it was verified as real.. it makes PERFECT sense for them to do this..

You think they actually take OTHER peoples word for it?

shakey said,

OR just use whatever excuse they come up with against them. They say others are using their networks, or spoofing their ip... Then we can use that exact same defense against their suits, and we should come out as victorious as them.

Yeah.. good luck with that, do me a favor when they sue your ass, let me know so I can be there to laugh at your "defense"..

LOL ROFLMAO LOL ROFLMAO LOL ROFLMAO LOL ROFLMAO .. I am staring early, because you are just LAME!

Talk to me when these guys are driving Toyotas instead of Rolls Royces. WAAAAhhhhhhhhhhh....... Maybe if they made movies $1 instead of like FIVE, no one would steal the stuff. Thank god for Netflix. NETFLIX IS FAIR! Anyone who thinks there selection is not enough watches waaaay too much TV anyway.

jimmyfal said,
Talk to me when these guys are driving Toyotas instead of Rolls Royces. WAAAAhhhhhhhhhhh....... Maybe if they made movies $1 instead of like FIVE, no one would steal the stuff. Thank god for Netflix. NETFLIX IS FAIR! Anyone who thinks there selection is not enough watches waaaay too much TV anyway.

just cancelled mine yesterday and it wasn't enough for my taste. too many old and only few new ones.

perochan said,

just cancelled mine yesterday and it wasn't enough for my taste. too many old and only few new ones.

you can blame hollywood for this.. newer movies get too many "views" and Netflix can't afford to pay the studios for a "view" license.. So I agree in part, but there is STILL lots of good stuff on Netflix.. Maybe YOU need to expand your horizons...

rijp said,

you can blame hollywood for this.. newer movies get too many "views" and Netflix can't afford to pay the studios for a "view" license.. So I agree in part, but there is STILL lots of good stuff on Netflix.. Maybe YOU need to expand your horizons...

Exactly! That's the main reason I was lamenting our recent loss of Blockbuster in Canada (basically the only major rental place left). Not for renting new movies, but for that classic oldie that I hadn't seen in a long while and really wanted to see sans commercials and edits. New movies are easy enough to get either through Netflix or our TV providers' on demand service.

"An IP address is not a person, IP addresses can be shared among many people, and anyone can be behind a keyboard at any given time."

Good thing the studios realize this when they sue people.

NAT1V3 said,
"An IP address is not a person, IP addresses can be shared among many people, and anyone can be behind a keyboard at any given time."

Good thing the studios realize this when they sue people.

Yes except WHEN the IP address resolves to YOUR house, they ask the question WHO was using your computer? If you entice people to log into your network (by sharing via WiFi) still makes you responsible. If you live at that address and you are the only one that uses the computer, guess what, must be YOU mr. wizard!

They DO realize how to narrow down who the guilty parties are!

besides which they were referring the movie studio site.. where LOTS of Employees work.. of course you can't "narrow down" but they aren't suing Hollywood are they? They are SUING individuals!

NAT1V3 said,
<snip>
Good thing the studios realize this when they sue people.

Ohh they realize it... they just choose to play ignorant to it!

mantequillas said,
How else are they going to upload their movies to claim people are pirating them?

exactly. they need to download the files to see who else is sharing in order to gather those IPs and subpoena the ISPs

Julius Caro said,

exactly. they need to download the files to see who else is sharing in order to gather those IPs and subpoena the ISPs

That would be basically entrapment. It would be akin to the police leaving a crate full of crack on some Detroit street, and arresting all who take from it. It wouldn't happen in the first place if they didn't put it up there... but damn if they will let you do it when they make it available!

I like how the cops around here had to start putting warnings on their "steal" cars. They would just leave a car with the keys inside and sometimes running, on the side of the road. They would then arrest anyone who messed with it. Now they have a sign that says, "There is a fake whatever car somewhere. Don't mess with it unless you want to be arrest." It's just backassward thinking and policies. They should stop trying to entrap people.

shakey said,

That would be basically entrapment. It would be akin to the police leaving a crate full of crack on some Detroit street, and arresting all who take from it. It wouldn't happen in the first place if they didn't put it up there... but damn if they will let you do it when they make it available!

I like how the cops around here had to start putting warnings on their "steal" cars. They would just leave a car with the keys inside and sometimes running, on the side of the road. They would then arrest anyone who messed with it. Now they have a sign that says, "There is a fake whatever car somewhere. Don't mess with it unless you want to be arrest." It's just backassward thinking and policies. They should stop trying to entrap people.

It's not entrapment unless they are themselves the source of the pirated file. If I see someone is seeding something that belongs to me, the first step to figuring out who all is seeding it is starting that torrent download.

ILikeTobacco said,

It's not entrapment unless they are themselves the source of the pirated file. If I see someone is seeding something that belongs to me, the first step to figuring out who all is seeding it is starting that torrent download.

True, but if they are the ones uploading it in the first place, then it is entrapment. I was using the guys response who said that they upload them to have others pirate.
They have every right though to download their own product, even if it is just for easy access and use.
But I wouldn't put it past a studio telling someone to upload one of their crappy movies to a site in hopes that they could make more off of the courts than they did at the box offices.

Julius Caro said,

exactly. they need to download the files to see who else is sharing in order to gather those IPs and subpoena the ISPs


Would be a good theory, if Conan had belonged to Sony, Game of Thrones had belong to NBC and so on...

Most likely someone is using their fast connection at work to torrent stuff

shakey said,

That would be basically entrapment. It would be akin to the police leaving a crate full of crack on some Detroit street, and arresting all who take from it. It wouldn't happen in the first place if they didn't put it up there... but damn if they will let you do it when they make it available!

I like how the cops around here had to start putting warnings on their "steal" cars. They would just leave a car with the keys inside and sometimes running, on the side of the road. They would then arrest anyone who messed with it. Now they have a sign that says, "There is a fake whatever car somewhere. Don't mess with it unless you want to be arrest." It's just backassward thinking and policies. They should stop trying to entrap people.

OK, READ idiot.. READ entrapment:

1: to catch in or as if in a trap
2: to lure into a compromising statement or act

In order to be considered ENTRAPMENT means they would have to OFFER users to come and get the pirated movie.. there is no "lure".. people ARE breaking the law, and they are finding ways to catch them.

Entrapment would be IF the studios had a website (in their own name) and told USERS to click here for FREE movies.. THAT would be entrapment, you dolt.

Learn to READ and UNDERSTAND before you go and spout things which you CLEARLY do not comprehend.

rijp said,

OK, READ idiot.. READ entrapment:

1: to catch in or as if in a trap
2: to lure into a compromising statement or act

In order to be considered ENTRAPMENT means they would have to OFFER users to come and get the pirated movie.. there is no "lure".. people ARE breaking the law, and they are finding ways to catch them.

Entrapment would be IF the studios had a website (in their own name) and told USERS to click here for FREE movies.. THAT would be entrapment, you dolt.

Learn to READ and UNDERSTAND before you go and spout things which you CLEARLY do not comprehend.


So extrapolating your scenario, the police would have to have a bar and serve you alcohol, then arrest you for DUI when you got in your car in order for it to be entrapment?

mantequillas said,
How else are they going to upload their movies to claim people are pirating them?

When I see this, it sounds like the studios are joining the fray to harvest IP addresses. It's probably not employees downloading anything for themselves.

shakey said,
That would be basically entrapment.

You guys can relax with the entrapment discussion, it's pointless. Downloading movie from the net is not a criminal act. It's copyright infringement and it is only a civil manner. You can get sued by the copyright holder but the police is not involved. So the "entrapment" in term of a legal matter doesn't apply here.