Blockbuster Goes With Blu-ray

Sure, there have been recent stories about rotting discs and HD-DVD players outselling stand alone Blu-ray players (or not), but there's good news for the Blu-ray camp, very good news.

With an expected announcement on Monday, Blockbuster Inc. will choose Blu-ray over HD-DVD to stock in a majority of it's stores. The company, since late last year, has been testing both HD-DVD and Blu-ray rentals in 250 stores across the United States. During that period, over 70% of high definition renters chose Blu-ray over HD-DVD. Analysts attribute this consumer preference to the wider selection of box office hits available exclusively on Blu-ray, such as "Pirates of the Caribbean", "Casino Royale", and "Spiderman".

HD-DVD fans will still be able to get their fix, though it will be in limited fashion. Blockbuster will continue to stock and rent HD-DVD films in the original 250 test stores and via their online rental service.

News source: Pittsburgh Tribune

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And the crowd screams for the 2.1% people world wide that own a blu-ray device (of which 1.3 have a Ps3). Does anyone actually believe that there is going to be a standard? It is very likely that all devices will be able to play and record in both HD, blu-ray. Until this happens (or there is only one), it won't sell (for the majority of people).

The VHS/Betamax war was won on which format best supported the porn industry and I expect that to dictate who wins in the war between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, Sony did say that they wouldn't allow porn films on their format a few months back but I've not read anything recently about it.

From what I've read up on that, is that porn producers often support both formats. I'm not sure if one or another have a big advantage there...

The majority of porn studios support HD-DVD, but one supportd Blu-ray also. I don't think it'll be the deciding factor this time.

With VHS vs Betamax, Sony was the sole supporter of Betamax. This time, Blu-ray has a lot of movie studio support, with many titles coming out exclusively on it. On top of that, Betamax didn't have the PS3.

It was not the porn industry, during the war of betamax/vhs rental stores (mainly blockbuster) urged both format supporters to sell to them exclusively for a period of time so that they could reap the rental sales. VHS offered that all new movies would be on sale for $100+ for a period of time so that they were able to be purchased, but not many were due to the cost and who you had to purchase them through (distribution). Sony at the time refused any type of deal thinking they would make thier money directly from sales. This led all rental franchises to use vhs because it guaranteed more business. This is the main reason for beta's downfall. This also led to why DVD's are so cheap and readily available. Blockbuster/hollywood felt that they had all the power due to rental sales being so large, and refused to pay the $100+ pricetag but still wanted the exclusive rights, to counteract that studios lowered the price and marketed to the masses. Now look at blockbuster/hollywood. THEY are going the way of the betamax.

You also seem to be forgetting we have something now that didn't exist during the first battle. The internet, seriously how many people go out and buy porn anymore? Everyone downloads it that is why the porn industry will be a non-factor.

You've never seen a movie in 1080p then. Thats a shame because the picture is beautiful. I can't watch DVD anymore after experiencing blu-ray.

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said,#14.1]You've never seen a movie in 1080p then. Thats a shame because the picture is beautiful. I can't watch DVD anymore after experiencing blu-ray.

Please.


Ive seen Blu-Ray and its not that big of a difference. The price tag is not worth it.

southside said,

Please.


Ive seen Blu-Ray and its not that big of a difference. The price tag is not worth it.


You're blind if you don't think there's much of a difference.

bangbang023 said,

You're blind if you don't think there's much of a difference.

Agreed.
Of course for taking advantage of blu-ray you also need a hi-screen screen.

This is the same store that is closing branches all over Europe! Blu ray will not take off in Europe, no one cares about it. It's too expensive and provides not very much extra in the way of quality over a normal DVD. DVD will continue to reign supreme until Blu Ray prices drop. Also stories that are circulating about 'rotting' discs won't help to bolster consumer spending.

.kvn said,
This is the same store that is closing branches all over Europe! Blu ray will not take off in Europe, no one cares about it. It's too expensive and provides not very much extra in the way of quality over a normal DVD. DVD will continue to reign supreme until Blu Ray prices drop. Also stories that are circulating about 'rotting' discs won't help to bolster consumer spending.

Aye, to bring it in to context:

I oddly enough was having a look at the HD titles both in Liverpool and Birkenhead this weekend. In the Virgin Megastore in Liverpool they have one entire floor dedicated to DVDs (maybe 50x50m - in short- big!) There was at best 1/8, of one side, of a rack for BlueRay and HD-DVD movies. With about 20 titles on each format. Though it had grown since March when I bought my PS3 but only by a massive 5 titles.

In Birkenhead the scene was even more worse. In Blockbuster with a shop the size of 20x20m. The best they could muster was 4 BlueRay titles and 3 HD-DVD. So while MS and Ninty are trying to produce a good & sucessful console. Sony appear to be going in to a format fight akin to two bald people fighting over a comb! I'm starting to wonder what I paid for.

There's been plenty of stories on DVD and CD rot in the past -- it didn't harm the market impact of the medium. I don't think it'll be a big deal for much more than until this month's end, and that story will blow over like they've done in the past, unless the problem is frequently reoccuring. Heck, it may only have been about unlucky people receiving a bad batch. It's too early to tell for sure...

what drugs are you on "provides not very much extra in the way of quality over a normal DVD" hd adn bluray are pretty much the same quality, whih is so much better than DVD that it's ridiculous

and it ****es me off. id love to be buying hd movies, but im not willing to bloody throw away the money when there WILL be an eventual loser. god i love sony products, but why the hell do they have to control everything. someone needs to lose sooner than later....

thornz0 said,
and it ****es me off. id love to be buying hd movies, but im not willing to bloody throw away the money when there WILL be an eventual loser. god i love sony products, but why the hell do they have to control everything. someone needs to lose sooner than later....

Sony is NOT the only backer this time. It's a lot different than Betamax vs VHS (Betamax was better by the way). The reason Sony feels the need to control everything is because they are in the business of making money.

thornz0 said,
and it ****es me off. id love to be buying hd movies, but im not willing to bloody throw away the money when there WILL be an eventual loser. god i love sony products, but why the hell do they have to control everything. someone needs to lose sooner than later....

i don't think there will be a looser, everyeon goes back to the beta VHS thing, and yes i do to, but everyonbe forgets the +/- DVD thing and the witch one will win, in the end they both won and we can still gtet both and most devices even handle both types, so i see, multi format drives being able to handle both disks so the consumer in the end can pick what they want

you forget as well as everyone on this whoel hd/bluray thing, everyone said exactly the same about +/- DVD and that one woudl win and the other would be relegated tto the museum. yet we still have both formats today. i think the HD/bluray is a lot closer to the +/- DVD than beta/VHS, the media is the same size so technically there is no reason why one drive can not handle both as in +/- DVD

Reality check here people, neither side will back down so we will have both formats as both sides have enough money to keep pushing and pushing their format, and there is no technical reason why we can't have both

this really dont matter as blu-ray/hd-dvd is still for the rich people pretty much... it aint mainstream enough for the average joe yet. til that happends standard dvd is still by far the overall best.

i dont see hd-dvd or blu-ray beating out dvd anytime soon... it will probably be a good 2-3years from now before hd-dvd or blu-ray is more common... hopefully by then we will have a winner instead of this back and forth crap from blu-ray/hd-dvd.

me personally though i hope hd-dvd wins for movies and blu-ray wins for storage space

this does matter, even more i would have thought than the ps3 having bluray or whcih studio likes what. this is the real world and reality is when you walk in to blockbuster they will have bluray. remember back to the old beta VHS war. who won, the one that had their videos on the video store shelves.

Netflix handles high-definition formats much better than Blockbuster Online. You set your preferences for Blu-ray or HD DVD and any disc you select will put the Hi-Def version in your queue. Netflix also has nearly every BD made. Blockbuster had about 100 titles the last time I checked in May.

Why oh why do people keep with the Walmart rumor?

FACT: Badly translated article talks about "Blue Laser" disc players.
FACT: Walmart issues press release, they aren't buying any players from that Chinese company.
FACT: Walmart makes deal with Sony to carry specialty LCD TVs in their stores this fall.
FACT: Funai, Walmart's primary DVD supplier and OEM, made a presentation talking about Blu-ray players Q4 2007.

HD DVD guys are the ones on the deck of the sinking Titanic going "We'll just wait here. Another ship will be along any time now..."

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A $25 investment that will literally last years & perform better than any consumer-marketed scratch remover I've come across. I've resurfaced over 200 audio CDs, and probably every third DVD rental. Yet to meet a disc that couldn't be recovered (data-side scratches aside, obviously).

However, as we transition into higher capacity mediums with a much smaller track pitch, the scratch-size/depth required to cause problems decreases. I definitely wouldn't use these on a Blu Ray disc, as they will remove the anti-scratch coating... with HD DVD, I'd simply be a bit more thorough, yet also more gentle compared to CD/DVD.

barely anyone is buying blu ray or hd dvd anyways since its cheaper to buy an HD satelite reveiver than an HD disc player and its cheaper to get 100 HD channels each month than to buy one HD movie. this really wont make much difference at all.

so what? there's no point in having a next gen data storage media because people can watch high def tv instead? well damn me, i never knew nobody liked to collect movies they liked in hard copy with extra features/deleted scenes/documentarial commentary and so on, especially now that its in high def.

Jay C said,
so what? there's no point in having a next gen data storage media because people can watch high def tv instead? well damn me, i never knew nobody liked to collect movies they liked in hard copy with extra features/deleted scenes/documentarial commentary and so on, especially now that its in high def.

im not saying theres no point to it im saying the consumers arent buying it, obviously we need new technology but so far both formats are doing bad and it looks like dvd will remain the dominant format for the time being

I'd say consumers are buying it. I mean...look at DVD's. Exactly how long did that take to go mainstream? I think I saw them in shops almost 2 years before people were actually buying them with any great demand.

New formats always have a fairly long time until they are adopted as a standard and this is no different.

Smigit said,
I'd say consumers are buying it. I mean...look at DVD's. Exactly how long did that take to go mainstream? I think I saw them in shops almost 2 years before people were actually buying them with any great demand.

New formats always have a fairly long time until they are adopted as a standard and this is no different.

well i remember the first dvd players back in 1997... i would say atleast 3+ years before it started to get "mainstream"

i would say we probably got our first dvd player around 2000-2001 area which is im guessing roughly the same time frame dvd started to take off.

so basically the bottom line is... this blu-ray/hd-dvd crap dont matter as the players are still way to expensive... plus we dont have a clear winner yet either.

ThaCrip said,
so basically the bottom line is... this blu-ray/hd-dvd crap dont matter as the players are still way to expensive... plus we dont have a clear winner yet either.
Yeah. The one thing that will be different this time and should lead to a somewhat quicker adoption than DVD's is the fact that the drives are both backwards compatible with dvd's. I knew it was a big issue for my parents back then considering how many VHS we had. They also wanted the ability to record but seeing as how we dont even have a dvd recorder now I doubt that'd be an issue either in our household anymore.

Yes, DVD player adoption was quite slow during the first few years...then player sales exploded with the release of The Matrix.

As it is with gaming platforms, so it is with other entertainment platforms: it's the content.

Although The Matrix is not yet available on Blu-ray, it has not helped HD-DVD. They speak of the exclusive titles for Blu-ray, but have failed to consider an important statistic: nobody is going to buy an HD player if it doesn't look or sound any better than their old DVD player...the vast majority of consumers own televisions capable only of 480 lines of resolution. Once the switch is flipped in 2009, we'll see a lot more people getting an HD television, and only then will they considering purchasing a source for it. And they'll also be hoping the format war will be over by then.

ok I have to wonder does this really matter? with the increased use of services like On Demand and things of that nature, how many people actually still go to the video store these days to pickup a movie. I know I haven't been for years.

Although there are all these new On Demand facilities available, not everyone is taking them up immediately. Of course there are people still renting movies from the video stores otherwise they would all be out of business. Altough plenty of people no longer rent movies, there is still a lot of people who do, and knowing that their local Blockbuster has more variety of Blu Ray movies than HD DVD might just make up their mind about which media to take up in their homes.

Every little bit counts in the competition for the next gen media format, just like how many movie companies are siding with each camp, the rental stores play their part too IMO.

Not everyone lives in the US where broadband has matured to a level where downloading complete movies in HD is that great a option. Even here in Australia the best you'll get is ADSL2 however most people are still stuck on ADSL due to lack of ADSL2 coverage meaning were averaging probably 256k - 1500k download speeds.

That and the fact most living room setups arent connected to a system capable of letting them play the movies from a pc and most people will choose their tv and couch over their 17 or 19 inch monitors.

Smigit said,
Not everyone lives in the US where broadband has matured to a level where downloading complete movies in HD is that great a option. Even here in Australia the best you'll get is ADSL2 however most people are still stuck on ADSL due to lack of ADSL2 coverage meaning were averaging probably 256k - 1500k download speeds.

That and the fact most living room setups arent connected to a system capable of letting them play the movies from a pc and most people will choose their tv and couch over their 17 or 19 inch monitors.


Video On Demand is from the digital cable or Sat service not internet.

QuarterSwede said,
Video On Demand is from the digital cable or Sat service not internet.
oops ^_^

That said, by coincidence purely, the same arguement almost above is useable. While we have the infrastructure Pay TV hasn't been THAT successful in Australia as far as I know. So it's still not that big a option to most users, at least here.

Smigit said,
oops ^_^

That said, by coincidence purely, the same arguement almost above is useable. While we have the infrastructure Pay TV hasn't been THAT successful in Australia as far as I know. So it's still not that big a option to most users, at least here.

I agree, although internet TV won't work in aus anyway simply becasue we have slow speed network and most people have such low download limits that any high def movie they download will take them over their limit fro the month and the new network the polly's are on about seems like it's goign to be a waste of time