Body of James Kim Found

The body of missing CNET senior editor, James Kim, was found Wednesday approximately half a mile from the Rogue River in Oregon, US.

Kim and his family were on their way home from a Thanksgiving get together when their car became stuck in the snow on a desolate side road. The family ran the car's engine to keep warm and then resorted to burning the tires for heat when the gas ran out. After exhausting all means of providing warmth for his family, James set out for help carrying little more than the clothes on his back.

James is survived by his wife, Kati, and two children who were discovered alive on Monday, December 4th and were taken to the hospital for treatment.

Neowin.net sends out its deepest condolences to the Kim family.

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Okay, I am probably going to be flamed for this, but here's a shot.

He was a super nice guy and it's a waste to see him gone. That's truly sad.

He was a tech "gadget" guy and with that, I find it amazing that he didn't have a satellite phone.

As with all the other posters above, it's amazing that he left the vehicle. What even more amazing is that he and his wife lacked basic survival skills. Setting your tires on fire should be a last resort. Trees are everywhere. Oh, yes it was snowing and wet, but if you have basic skills you know that at the base of most trees, it's dry and you can gather something that will burn. But perhaps, they didn't have a lighter or matches (possible non-smokers), but then how did the tires get lit?

Also, he didn't inform anyone of his intended route. If he had, perhaps whoever he had told may have warned him and shortened the time it took to find the family vehicle.

There's a story that this could be blamed on Google maps offering this route he took as the prefered route, but what merrit does that have? (http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/online-maps-and-directions-blamed-for-mans-death-in-snowy-oregon)

A lesson to us all; update your emergency road kit in your vehicles and learn basic survival skills - you never know.

I never knew of Tech TV or of James in fact before this whole thing started to get media coverage but the more i've watched this unfold, the more i've been dreading the outcome. He looked to be a loving family man, and someone who a lot of people admired and respected..

Very sad and I can't imagine how devastated his family are. A family holiday turned tragedy.

Rest in Peace James, And my most sincere condolences to your family.

I couldn't believe it when i read this news post.. shocking!

On a side note.. wasn't he quite a chubby guy, at least that is what i remember from the CNET emails.. not like the picture you have

RIP

He's a real family guy. From what I've read, he gave up his other passion which was golf. And he made the ultimate sacrifice for his family. He truly loved his family and for that he has my respect. May he RIP.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his family. He was a brave man and a hero for trying to go and get help to save his family. Any man in his shoes would have done the same thing

How far off a major (or any) road where they? How did he actually die: starvation, cold temperature? I just cant imagine being somewhere so far from civilization to die. If they could get there by car, I'm it shouldn't have been so dramaric. I'm just having a really hard time to believe it.

I got stuck with my wife and two kids on I-70 in Utah, right where it hits I-15. We got stuck in a horrible blizzard and had to pull off the road and sleep in the car for about 6 hours waiting for the plows to come. I know, its not a week and a half like the Kim family but it was still a pretty terrifying experience with two small kids in the car.

RIP to them, my best to the surviving family.

R. I. P.

What I didn't get was, how deep was the snow? Couldn't he just dig all the snow around the vehicle? But it was probably getting very deep and he wouldn't be able to tell where the road was before. An unfortunate ending to this tragic event. I pray that his family will be able to get through this rough time.

This is pretty sad to hear. And it's reasons like this that I keep a small first aid/survival kit in my car. For years I've always kept a box of candles and some matches/lighter. I heard that a small candle can keep a car "warm" for something like 6+ hours.

Do Rest in Peace Mr J. Kim.

Although not a reader of your work, a lot has not been done without you. And although you died, you died not without a good cause. A man of honour died under our watch, and god damn anyone that shall hold that against him.

-- El Sid

real bummer. one of the downfalls about winter in northern hemisphere is things happening like this around Christmas time.

I was hoping that he had survived. Noble death that was. Rest in peace. May his family find peace also.

Yeah, I guess a search party reached the top of a deep ravine and Kim was at the bottom. They actually made contact with him, but he was so far gone they had little time to get to him. With all the snow on the ground, they had no way to get emergency vehicles to the area. The idea was to airlift medics into the ravine, but the danger was too great, and when they finally were able to make it down there, he was dead. It is really a very sad, tragic ending to a horrible turn of events that, for 2 days at least, seemed to be edging towards a happy ending.

I know the proper thing to do is to wait in the car, but I have to admit...after a week of nothing, I would want to move as well. The sad thing about all this is the fact that this all happened because they missed their turn and got lost...and since the road is all but deserted, it was dark and rainy, and they were completely unfamiliar with this part of the country, they didn't have a chance at finding their way back and, from what I've read, they tried to do a U-turn and got stuck in the snow. Had this been a couple of strong men, this would have been a minor, but temporary setback. But a "computer geek", a small wife, and 2 very young children? Just sad. My heart goes out to the surviving family members.

Quote - Pdj79 said @ #59.1
the fact that this all happened because they missed their turn and got lost...and since the road is all but deserted, it was dark and rainy, and they were completely unfamiliar with this part of the country, they didn't have a chance at finding their way back and, from what I've read, they tried to do a U-turn and got stuck in the snow. Had this been a couple of strong men, this would have been a minor, but temporary setback. But a "computer geek", a small wife, and 2 very young children? Just sad. My heart goes out to the surviving family members.

Where's you source for the above coming from?

R.I.P James, I watched his "Zune" video review a couple of weeks ago, so sad.

He was such a good technology enthusiast and reviewer!

I'm sure that leaving his family in the car and going for help himself was an act of desperation. After all, they had been in the car for a week at that point, with barely any food. I'm sure that I would've had a mighty strong desire to do the same thing if I was in that situation. What man could bear to watch him family suffer like that?

RIP James Kim

They were lucky for coming home from thanksgiving because other than that day I don't know when I would have any food in my car to eat.

RIP, James. Sad that this had to happen. =(

My dad did the same thing when I was a kid and our car skidded off the road in the mountains and tumbled down the cliff and was lodged in some trees. Fortunately for us, he saw a car while walking to the next town and managed to flag it.

Never heard about the guy, who he was or anything about him. But sounds like he died a hero.
Rest in peace, dude!

oh man.. i love this guy last time at G4tv... may god bless you... i just cannot believe my eye... James, god bless you man! enjoy in heaven...

CNET.com has a memorial photo of him on their site, as he was an Editor @ CNet.

http://www.cnet.com/


I don't know why somebody who worked for a techonlogy magazine didn't have a cell phone on him.

My Wife & I were in that area of Oregon in July this year, it's not eactly a great place to go wandering off, he should've stayed with his family.

he did have a cell phone..and tried to use it..but was 'out of range' and had a poor signal...however it was still weak enough to put the searchers in the approx area.

RIP Mr. Kim

It's possible he purposely decided not to bring a cell phone, so he could spend more time with his family, etc. Technology takes up more time than you know. Maybe he just wanted a break from work and everything.
It's also possible he was just out of range. How else would he and his family gone missing?

RIP. I didn't know you, but you were very important to the technology community.

Good greif. Does anyone read up and become informed any more before posting? There was also a post earlier that talked about using the car to run and keep warm - then asked how long they were out there (it was almost two weeks).

A lot of opinions with no knowledge of the subject.

Why was he on the side road? Was it the only way to get back from his destination, its a shame someone went out like this especially if was just for a shortcut, if it indeed was the ONLY means of returning home from whence he came then that really is too bad then.

RIP. This reminds me of the winter episode of Discovery's "I Shouldn't Be Alive". It's so easy to die from hypothermia...

The one with the guy and his dad that went camping and their boat flipped loosing all the equipment they had?

Very tragic. They both survived though, but it was very tough for them.

/EZ

Quote - Section 31 said @ #31
RIP. This reminds me of the winter episode of Discovery's "I Shouldn't Be Alive". It's so easy to die from hypothermia...

Yup. There was in in the same general area, road ended and the Father, Mother, and there baby all set out with nothing but clothes on there back. They were lucky enough to be resuced with just frostbite I belive.

James wasn't so lucky. :(

RIP.

(EZRecovery said @ #31.1)
The one with the guy and his dad that went camping and their boat flipped loosing all the equipment they had?

The 2005 "Lost in the Snow" episode is even more relevant as it deals with a family (including their 6 mo old baby) stranded on a snow packed road, and as close to a 100% accurate representation of what the Kim's faced as you can get.

damn man!... i never knew the guy missing was him, cause i remember seeing this guy on techtv (now G4tv) a while back ... he was the gadget guy on there , he seemed like a pretty cool guy... cause my mom was saying something about this the other day and i just thought it was no big deal but i never knew it was him til just now cause i seen his pic on this post :(

atleast he died trying to save his family... but it's a damn shame he died though cause im sure his family is gonna miss em bigtime especially since he probably has little kids now they gotta grow up without a dad :(

Rest in peace... i have no doubt he's gonna be in heaven ;)

p.s. and what makes it even more worse is the fact it aint to far before christmas

R.I.P. I was hoping he would be alive but this is sad news. Although, he did die a strong man! May his soul rest in peace!

Oh my god this is terrible, I just read a review on something by him last week. When I saw the "Mom, 2 kids found; Frantic search for dad" on the news I had no idea it was James! Poor guy may he rest in peace.

Like-wise.. I was watching him doing some reviews last week on cNet. I'm am totally surprised. I didn't even know it was his family until I saw his picture. R.I.P.

I do have one question though.... if they were lost in Oregon, which has plenty of trees, etc, why didn't they burn wood to keep warm? They could have gotten a raging fire going to keep warm ( and we know that they burned the tires to keep warm, why not ad wood to the tire fire?). Since there was snow on the ground, there would have been a minimal chance of starting a forest fire.

I just wonder why they didn't do that.

First of all, you need to cut down a tree to burn it, not the easiest thing to do, second of all, you need to find dry wood, or else the fire will just extinguish itself.

Quote - Enrickey said @ #21.1
First of all, you need to cut down a tree to burn it, not the easiest thing to do, second of all, you need to find dry wood, or else the fire will just extinguish itself.

You don't have to chop the whole tree down, just pull off dead limbs or find it on the ground etc..

Terrible. But there was no need to chop wood.

His family stayed in the car, they survived. He would have done if he had also stayed with them.

It seems strange, you wouldn't run the car all the time, run it, heat it up, switch off. gets cold again, turn on, heat up, turn off.

It seems daft to burn tyres, the amount of effort that would have gone into that, does anyone know how long they was actually trapped for?

Quote - evo_spook said @ #21.3
It seems strange, you wouldn't run the car all the time, run it, heat it up, switch off. gets cold again, turn on, heat up, turn off.

They didn't run the car all the time. But the weather was consistently below freezing and there was no rescue over several days, so eventually they ran out of gas. Let's say that the engine burns a half-gallon per hour idling. My car (a 2002) takes about four minutes to get to operating temperature, and about two minutes to get to a level where the heater works to some decent degree. Warming up the interior can take between five and ten minutes, though a warm interior doesn't necessarily mean that the people inside are feeling warm themselves. Even if it did, it can drop to nearly ambient temperatures in about 30 minutes, and that's when it's 50 degrees outside. Through the course of a night, it may be possible to burn a gallon or more of fuel, and after a few days, that's going to eat away everything left in the tank -- remember, they had been on a road trip, and probably didn't have a full tank of gas.

Eventually, you get desperate for heat, and the tires will burn easily. After six or seven days, you'll be really desperate for just about everything -- especially if you're alone and feeding your children solely from breast milk. They were out there a total of nine days, IIRC.

It's all well and good with people saying to "stay put" if your lost - But seriously, if your lost and your family is at risk, then the last thing you would do is stay put !

May he R.I.P.

that depends, in the middle of nowhere I would stay put for fear of being lost myself but if it was some place where I knew I could find other people then yeah i'd go.

I am kind of with Ferret on this.

Although you know that staying put is what you are supposed to do, statistically, in this case, they had exhaused their options while waiting for over a week with nothing in the way of rescue appearing for them.

Tough call to make, but as a father, I understand the need to put oneself at increased risk to attempt saving the family. Unfortunately, it sounds like he got down some slope that he could not climb back up to return to his family.

Rest in peace, James. A true hero for trying to do the best for his wife and children and a great contributer to the internet community.

They did have a cell phone, and a GPS can tell you where you are, but it can't keep you warm. He shouldn't have left the car under any circumstances.
Rule One if you're ever lost is to stay put; it makes it easier for SAR to find you.

Regardless, he died an honorable death in my opinion. Many people lose their lives for no reason at all, but this man is a hero. If there is a God or reincarnation or whatever, I am sure this man is gonna get the best of it.

If he had a Swiss Army Knife with him, I bet he would have made it.

Quote - Quick Reply said @ #6.2
I think he could be referencing an episode of The Simpsons

The freaking Krusty Burger oil rig?

At any rate, sucks to hear him go out like that; I watched many of his reviews...

Quote - oddcrap said @ #6
They did have a cell phone, and a GPS can tell you where you are, but it can't keep you warm. He shouldn't have left the car under any circumstances.
Rule One if you're ever lost is to stay put; it makes it easier for SAR to find you.

Regardless, he died an honorable death in my opinion. Many people lose their lives for no reason at all, but this man is a hero. If there is a God or reincarnation or whatever, I am sure this man is gonna get the best of it.

If he had a Swiss Army Knife with him, I bet he would have made it.

A cell phone is useless in that area of the country. No reception up in the mountain passes

/used to live in Oregon

Quote - Lurchybaby said @ #6.4

A cell phone is useless in that area of the country. No reception up in the mountain passes

/used to live in Oregon

Actually, while it didn't have signal, news articles reported that they had a phone on, which obviously couldn't get signal, but still broadcast a signal that aided in their search. (One would assume they had a car charger and at least 2 phones which could be used 1 at a time and could sustain the time between when they ran out of gas and when they were found).

Indeed others' comments that the trick is to stay put -- especially if you have a car, is dead on. Other than the obviousness of a small search grid and a weatherproof car, it also allows them to reassure eachother.
Nevertheless, the misguided effort he made was undeniably brave and chivalrous.