Channel 10's Max Zuckerman shows off AMD Spider chipset

AMD, however, has not given up... not by a longshot. While we all have waited to see the results of their ATi acquisition, today I had the chance to check it out firsthand. That's right, folks, AMD has its own triple-play to show off: new true quad core 64 bit CPU--the Phenom, a new Radeon 3800 series set graphic cards, and to support it all... a fancy new chipset known as "Spider." One of the key differences with the AMD Quad Core architecture versus the Intel is that the cores are all capable of communicating on-chip. Intel's solution requires communication through the chipset since it is actually two dual-core processors on the same die.

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toadeater said,
I think they'd be better off concentrating on features other than quad video cards.

Like getting crossfire to run properly would be a good one and why should it depend on the game to support CF it should be something thats totaly invisable to the game just like SLI on 2 Vodoo2 cards was and why do you need four seperate video cards manufactures like Gecube have Gemini which is a duel GPU card running CF onboard so come on AMD stop friggin round and give us something to get excited about

I think this is a plus, right now both ATI and Nvidia are going for multi- GPU cards now. So, most likely
the prices of these cards will drop in price. Have 2 or 4 ATI 3850s in your system should improve your
video output .. It also, means new mother boards, 1K PSUs, new K10 AMD CPUs and a full tower ..

Looks like " WE " the consumer will make out on this deal ... Looking forward to seeing this stuff
on-line ... LOWER PRICES ...

This isn't a plus! these companies promised us small cases with small everything! things only get bigger! 4 gpu cards?! full cases? 1000w psu's.... thats terrible!

I want an htpc case with all that power

I have a feeling that nVidia going to show us a 2 core gpu anytime now.

I think they took a long-term chance with the acquisition, but I think it will pay off in the long-term, and i think that time looks like coming soon. CPU+Graphics=more room for everything else, and with 2.2 gig on each core, and the easy overclocking platform, that looks like running stable at at least 2.6 or 7 on a standard set-up, what more do you need?

I wouldn't say they're faster, I'd say they both are faster at different things at the moment. I'd like to compare them on a native 64-bit platform, {especially if that platform is fl-studio, hint hint? please?} and see which one comes out on top. I can also see AMD having a price advantage, at least in the CPU aspect of it, and even VPU if you dont plan on getting too many of them.

But hang on. Don't people simply want the fastest parts for their computer? Intel's chips are simply faster than AMD's and by quite a mark - even these new Phenom chips. Am I missing something?

This is like news that the wheelchair race competitiors at the paralympics have recently installed rocket packs in their wheelchairs. Great news, i'm sure, but it doesn't mean they can compete in the real Olympics. AMD is a wheelchair competitor by the way.....

alsheron said,
But hang on. Don't people simply want the fastest parts for their computer? Intel's chips are simply faster than AMD's and by quite a mark - even these new Phenom chips. Am I missing something?

This is like news that the wheelchair race competitiors at the paralympics have recently installed rocket packs in their wheelchairs. Great news, i'm sure, but it doesn't mean they can compete in the real Olympics. AMD is a wheelchair competitor by the way.....

yes, and not even that long ago intel was the one in the wheelchair, or have you forgotten the failure that the pentium 4 was? If amd can get on top again with their phenom chips it's the consumer that wins in the end. So let's pray that their phenoms will blast intel out of the sky ;)

PS: i think a wheelchair with rocket packs can outrun the fastest sprinter

XerXis said,

yes, and not even that long ago intel was the one in the wheelchair, or have you forgotten the failure that the pentium 4 was? If amd can get on top again with their phenom chips it's the consumer that wins in the end. So let's pray that their phenoms will blast intel out of the sky ;)

PS: i think a wheelchair with rocket packs can outrun the fastest sprinter ;)

No, you are wrong, even at the lowest server and desktop sales , Intel was showing strong profits.

The wheelchair comparison is not for the performance part but for the part that AMD is still on the edge of bankruptcy.

So far it seems they are not even close to beating Intel or nVidia, both making superior products for at least another year according to current roadmaps.

Beastage said,

No, you are wrong, even at the lowest server and desktop sales , Intel was showing strong profits.

The wheelchair comparison is not for the performance part but for the part that AMD is still on the edge of bankruptcy.

So far it seems they are not even close to beating Intel or nVidia, both making superior products for at least another year according to current roadmaps.

Bankruptcy... Your kidding right? It's been said time and time again that AMD has enough money that they can ride this slump out for a long time to come. And the new processor, chip set, and graphics card that there releasing is nothing to turn your nose up to.

AMD seems to have been fairly pounded by Intel lately. I think it's great they've got all this new tech out. Besides, it means Intel will make better hardware and lower priced to compete. Win!