Comcast to Stop Targeting BitTorrent

According to an announcement scheduled to be released today, Comcast says it will stop targeting BitTorrent on the Internet. Seeking to defuse tensions in a government investigation, the internet provider says it will halt its practice of interfering only with BitTorrent file-sharing programs when the Internet congests and slows speeds for everyone. In addition, Comcast has promisedto boost broadband capacity to make it easier to transmit online video and other rich media.

As part of the agreement, BitTorrent Inc., based in San Francisco, will make its free software more efficient and will make sure software developers learn of those efficiencies. Comcast and BitTorrent, which have clashed publicly for months, are expected to announce the collaborative agreement today. The Comcast-BitTorrent dispute has been a cause celebre among Internet advocacy groups and others who called for greater regulation for an open Internet, citing Comcast.

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My server is usually running around 4mbit "doing what it does" 24 hours a day they dont cap me ever iv had comcast for over 4 years never once have they ever called me or sent me a letter, I usually download around 500gb of "content" a month not including what my machines are doing when im idle ,This rumor is stupid, why would they do this? they have a plethora of bandwidth they dont need to, bandwidth is cheap these days specially with how many citys are on fiber now, im sure all of you in rural areas might have this issue because your directly effecting your neighbors, but again its a no contract service go somewhere else,

Burstable 30mbit is also a fact, if you use throttling software you can also keep that 30mbit the entire download instead of the "40meg burst" speed. RCA Modems which most people are using (Comcast Issued) are highly patchable they there is alot of firmware updates online you can download. Look into it, Comcast dont give a **** as long as you pay on time.

-BMH

Dont get so happy yet, the rumor is that if you use too much bandwidth (a number they will NEVER tell us) they will throttle you back to ISDN speeds... until the next month... on all portocols... so if you download (we dont know how much) off P2P they will send a new config to your modem say called cm_sb5120_bandwidthabuselimit.cm and that will take that 16mbit connection you are paying for down to 128Kbit down 56Kbit up... so they are no longer forging packets... they are no longer limiting network use... they are just severly limiting how much you can use it after you hit that invisible cap..

i have comcasts 15mb/s service and i have been consistently downloading roughly 300GB to 1TB a month and have no issues. furthermore, it pegs my 15mb/s of available bandwidth and only rarely drops below 14. so, im a happy camper. On top of this, i called Comcast the last time i heard about this throttling nonsence and multiple tiers of support stated there is no limit whatsoever uploads or downloads.

not that it matters. comcast service has NO contract so i am free to drop their service in the event they do impose some sort of limitations. ive been a happy comcast customer for 3 years now.

(Nose Nuggets said @ #5.1)
i have comcasts 15mb/s service and i have been consistently downloading roughly 300GB to 1TB a month and have no issues. furthermore, it pegs my 15mb/s of available bandwidth and only rarely drops below 14. so, im a happy camper. On top of this, i called Comcast the last time i heard about this throttling nonsence and multiple tiers of support stated there is no limit whatsoever uploads or downloads.

not that it matters. comcast service has NO contract so i am free to drop their service in the event they do impose some sort of limitations. ive been a happy comcast customer for 3 years now.


15mbit service? Comcast doesn't even have a 15Mbit service tier... they have 4.4Mbit, 6Mbit, 8Mbit and 16Mbit

and if you downloaded a terabyte of data on comcast, they would of definatly of called you by now... they run network reports every month and take anyone over a set amount of data... the only way they would not get you is if you are on a very small node and didnt think you where hurting someone else, but that is very rare... We got kicked off Comcast for 200GB one month and 100GB the next... also what in the world do you do with 1TB of data? I couldn't find 1TB of stuff to download if I wanted to... (not just random stuff, stuff I'd actually want) let alone have room to store it all...

(Nose Nuggets said @ #5.1)
i have comcasts 15mb/s service and i have been consistently downloading roughly 300GB to 1TB a month and have no issues. furthermore, it pegs my 15mb/s of available bandwidth and only rarely drops below 14. so, im a happy camper. On top of this, i called Comcast the last time i heard about this throttling nonsence and multiple tiers of support stated there is no limit whatsoever uploads or downloads.

not that it matters. comcast service has NO contract so i am free to drop their service in the event they do impose some sort of limitations. ive been a happy comcast customer for 3 years now.


Mate your speaking crap, I'm on a UK (and UK is meant to have better speeds !? Yeh, right, I'm on 10Mb the top package) business line and I'm limited to how much I can download per month, something like 100GB, if you downloaded 1TB then that means. If your on 1.5MBps download that means you can download 1.7TB a month if your downloading full-speed for the whole month. So your saying your downloading constantly for over half a month at full 1.5MBps / 15Mbps... Yeh OK mate, in your dreams, sure...

(neufuse said @ #5.2)

15mbit service? Comcast doesn't even have a 15Mbit service tier... they have 4.4Mbit, 6Mbit, 8Mbit and 16Mbit

and if you downloaded a terabyte of data on comcast, they would of definatly of called you by now... they run network reports every month and take anyone over a set amount of data... the only way they would not get you is if you are on a very small node and didnt think you where hurting someone else, but that is very rare... We got kicked off Comcast for 200GB one month and 100GB the next... also what in the world do you do with 1TB of data? I couldn't find 1TB of stuff to download if I wanted to... (not just random stuff, stuff I'd actually want) let alone have room to store it all...

sorry, your right. 16mb/s not 15. i only got up to 1tb one month, but easily over 300 consistently and no calls or anything. it is posible that im in a low traffic area and im not effecting others. just throwing out my observations.

Just as an example, 1080i blue ray movies are about 10 gigs a pop. i dont keep everything but hdd's are cheep as hell these days
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148135

(n_K said @ #5.3)

Mate your speaking crap, I'm on a UK (and UK is meant to have better speeds !? Yeh, right, I'm on 10Mb the top package) business line and I'm limited to how much I can download per month, something like 100GB, if you downloaded 1TB then that means. If your on 1.5MBps download that means you can download 1.7TB a month if your downloading full-speed for the whole month. So your saying your downloading constantly for over half a month at full 1.5MBps / 15Mbps... Yeh OK mate, in your dreams, sure...

16mb/s = 2MB/s

2*60 = 120 megs a minute
*60 = 7200 megs an hour
*24 = 172800 megs a day at full speed, non stop, or 172 gigs a day. so it would take me just under 6 days to download 1TB if i was downloading full bore, non stop.

1.5MB/s would be 130 gigs a day.

unless im missing something.

(n_K said @ #5.3)

Mate your speaking crap, I'm on a UK (and UK is meant to have better speeds !? Yeh, right, I'm on 10Mb the top package) business line and I'm limited to how much I can download per month, something like 100GB, if you downloaded 1TB then that means. If your on 1.5MBps download that means you can download 1.7TB a month if your downloading full-speed for the whole month. So your saying your downloading constantly for over half a month at full 1.5MBps / 15Mbps... Yeh OK mate, in your dreams, sure...


I'm sorry but what are you talking about? You could easily to a terrabyte in the USA on comcast... their top speed tier is 16Mbit... but powerboost will boost you up to 30Mbit when there is bandwidth available on your node (for the first 40MB of the download then back down to your subscribed speed)... The USA has speeds way over 10Mbit... Verison has 5/10/15/25/50Mbit speed tiers and symetric speed tiers too for residential customers! Comcast has 6/8/16Mbit tiers and will boost you up to 30Mbit... don't believe everything you read in the news the USA has speed... you are just thinking we dont because they also include the 70% of the country that is not vastly populated which bring down the stats... live on the east or west coast and you can almost always get at least 7Mbit download depending on the region...

(neufuse said @ #5.8)


I'm sorry but what are you talking about? You could easily to a terrabyte in the USA on comcast... their top speed tier is 16Mbit... but powerboost will boost you up to 30Mbit when there is bandwidth available on your node (for the first 40MB of the download then back down to your subscribed speed)... The USA has speeds way over 10Mbit... Verison has 5/10/15/25/50Mbit speed tiers and symetric speed tiers too for residential customers! Comcast has 6/8/16Mbit tiers and will boost you up to 30Mbit... don't believe everything you read in the news the USA has speed... you are just thinking we dont because they also include the 70% of the country that is not vastly populated which bring down the stats... live on the east or west coast and you can almost always get at least 7Mbit download depending on the region...

The new VZ FiOS Internet *middle tier* is a symmetrical tier (15M/15M) which is popular with photo uploaders, bloggers, telecommuters, and other folks that need/want large upstream bandwidth (it's also the first true non-dialup symmetrical tier that VZ or any of its parts ever offered to residential customers). The real issue, to put it bluntly, is there's little use even for 15M downstream unless you're streaming video (and even then, that's tough) because most of the rest of the Internet doesn't have the bandwidth available to tax it (other than Microsoft and Apple, where in terms of the general Internet are you going to find the bandwidth available?).

(PGHammer said @ #5.9)
The new VZ FiOS Internet *middle tier* is a symmetrical tier (15M/15M) which is popular with photo uploaders, bloggers, telecommuters, and other folks that need/want large upstream bandwidth (it's also the first true non-dialup symmetrical tier that VZ or any of its parts ever offered to residential customers). The real issue, to put it bluntly, is there's little use even for 15M downstream unless you're streaming video (and even then, that's tough) because most of the rest of the Internet doesn't have the bandwidth available to tax it (other than Microsoft and Apple, where in terms of the general Internet are you going to find the bandwidth available?).

Well, who says it's all from a single source?

If the capacity is available, it would make sense to develop download managers which would pull in parts of the file from disparate locations. maybe it can only get 1Mbps from each server, but contact 15 different servers....

oh, wait, they already have that. Bittorrent

(Hak Foo said @ #5.10)

Well, who says it's all from a single source?

If the capacity is available, it would make sense to develop download managers which would pull in parts of the file from disparate locations. maybe it can only get 1Mbps from each server, but contact 15 different servers....

oh, wait, they already have that. Bittorrent

nicely put....

(n_K said @ #5.3)

Mate your speaking crap, I'm on a UK (and UK is meant to have better speeds !? Yeh, right, I'm on 10Mb the top package) business line and I'm limited to how much I can download per month, something like 100GB, if you downloaded 1TB then that means. If your on 1.5MBps download that means you can download 1.7TB a month if your downloading full-speed for the whole month. So your saying your downloading constantly for over half a month at full 1.5MBps / 15Mbps... Yeh OK mate, in your dreams, sure...

While Nose Nuggets may be talking out his backside, you are comparing apples to oranges. Typically, ISPs in the united states DO NOT cap monthly downloads. While some people may see throttling after large download sprees, they are completely isolated occurrences and not the normal situation. Contrary to news reports and popular belief, European countries do not have better internet coverage. While rated speeds for clients in the EU may be faster than those of the US, the combined capacity of EU ISPs cannot handle the sheer volume of traffic that US ISPs handle. Statistically speaking, most of the entire internet's traffic is routed through the US. Just to give you an example of how chough, terrible, cough service is in the US, I have an 8Mbit/sec package from Comcast. 98% of the time I am able to meet or exceed this speed, even during peak usage. Furthermore, some ISPs including Comcast have employed a speed boosting system that allows users to exceed their rated speed for a limited time(few seconds) during off-peak Personally, I have downloaded 25Mbyte files in a matter of 10 seconds which is unheard of for traditional cable customers this would require that my ISP allow me to reach 20Mbit/second average within that 10 second period. Trust me, I'm not talking out my backside, not only am I an MCSE, I would invite you to contact Comcast and ask them what their typical customer experiences are in Maryland where I live.

The new VZ FiOS Internet *middle tier* is a symmetrical tier (15M/15M) which is popular with photo uploaders, bloggers, telecommuters, and other folks that need/want large upstream bandwidth (it's also the first true non-dialup symmetrical tier that VZ or any of its parts ever offered to residential customers). The real issue, to put it bluntly, is there's little use even for 15M downstream unless you're streaming video (and even then, that's tough) because most of the rest of the Internet doesn't have the bandwidth available to tax it (other than Microsoft and Apple, where in terms of the general Internet are you going to find the bandwidth available?).
Who said it was meant for 1 user? Most ISPs accept the fact that broadband connections are typically connected to a router at the clients end and shared to several users. As it stands right now, if my little brother is downloading a large game demo, I only have half my bandwidth available (2 users) at that time. That means that If i need to download something large too, we have to share that 8Mbit/sec connection, essentially splitting it into 2 4Mbit/sec connections. That means the difference between downloading a 1Gbyte file in 17min 4sec or getting speed cut in half so it now takes 34min 8sec and being the impatient SOB that I am, I'd rather not wait.(granted I can set up QoS and throttle him, I'd rather not hear him whine) FiOS would be a godsend even with us splitting speed, each of us would get 7.5Mbit/sec when downloading at the same time, not too shabby.

(neufuse said @ #5)
Dont get so happy yet, the rumor is that if you use too much bandwidth (a number they will NEVER tell us) they will throttle you back to ISDN speeds... until the next month... on all portocols... so if you download (we dont know how much) off P2P they will send a new config to your modem say called cm_sb5120_bandwidthabuselimit.cm and that will take that 16mbit connection you are paying for down to 128Kbit down 56Kbit up... so they are no longer forging packets... they are no longer limiting network use... they are just severly limiting how much you can use it after you hit that invisible cap..

Nothing but a rumor. If you are found abusing the bandwidth your modem is disabled until you contact the security department to clear things up. If it happens to you again after that they pull the service completely. The unspoken number is actually a pretty generous amount and is usually reached by people who are actually abusing the network and amount of bandwidth they use.

(anamericangod said @ #4)
I wouldn't mind comcast if they offered anything higher than 1.5 in my area, jeez.

1.5? im taking it you are in a non comcast region? the slowest comcast connection is 4Mbit and that is only if you dont have TV service... if you have tv with them the slowest they offer is 6Mbit

(anamericangod said @ #4)
I wouldn't mind comcast if they offered anything higher than 1.5 in my area, jeez.

I get 16Mbps with Speedboost and 2Mbps upload...

(RevitXman said @ #4.2)

I get 16Mbps with Speedboost and 2Mbps upload...

Which has become the replacement for the old 8Mdown/768k up tier (and it will make its way Comcastwide). What's hilarious is that Comcast hasn't really been advertising it, either (not even in areas where Verizon FiOS is the competition, such as here; they have literally stealthed it as a no-notice and no-charge upgrade from the old speed tier). I've had the new tier for almost two months; Comcast *still* has said nada.

one broadband provider limiting bittorrent connections is going to thwart piracy? bittorrent is not the most prolific means of distributing pirated software. regardless of this, there are PLENTY of legitimate uses for bit torrent, and limiting its bandwidth is a terrible idea.

(C_Guy said @ #2)
Oh goody. Another victory for the pirates.

I download and upload My copies of Ubuntu and OpenOffice using Bittorrent, if I were a comcast customer, this would be a great victory for me!

Anyone else think that the phrase "only bittorrent" means that they will cap speeds on other things as well to be able to claim there is no bias?

well, a) thats not how its writen and b) the previous article stated it was only bittorrent connections there where throttling in the first place.