Confirmed: Windows 7 set to RTM on July 13

Earlier today the guys over at GeekSmack.net "confirmed" that Windows 7 was set to RTM (release to manufacturing) on July 13, which also coincides with Wzor's unconfirmed rumor last month. A few minutes ago sources close to the company, who wish to remain anonymous, have confirmed to Neowin that Windows 7 is indeed set to RTM on July 13.

After a year of furious beta testing and continuous leaks every other week, Microsoft is finally ready to give Windows 7 the green light to hit the market. Currently the Windows 7 team is working on polishing off the RTM build so that no show-stopper bugs are present in Windows 7. The date, July 13, also coincides with the kickoff of the Worldwide Partner Conference that is taking place in New Orleans.

Note: Don't confuse RTM and GA (General Availability), as these are two totally different phases. RTM in a nutshell is typically the final build that we will see when Windows 7 hits GA later this year (Unless, of course, there's a show-stopper bug found), but is released to manufacturers so they can work out any bugs the software may encounter with hardware devices. General availability is scheduled to launch on October 22, which will give the tech savvy world time to save up money.

So with that said TechNet, MSDN, and a few other partner connections should also be getting the RTM build on or shortly after July 13. So let the countdown begin!

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RTM?

Is Windows 7 complete? I'm hearing that the final build is 6.1.7600.16384.win7_rtm.090710-1945 and dated July 10, 2009. I guess we'll see.

14 July on Connect and official Testers
14-15 Technet/MSDN in three phases due to network load.
15.7, 22.7 και 1.8

i can just see it now shop shelves stuffed to the brim with gleaming new copies of MS win 7 in its various forms then i look to see how much and die from a heart attack at seeing the price thats if it follows the way of vista when it was first released here (New Zealand) home Premium $499 ultimate $999.95

Just so I'm ABSOLUTELY clear on this, if you buy a TechNet subscription for the $349+ or whatever it is, you get access to Windows 7 shortly after it RTM's, with a legit key and all? Because I've also been told that TechNet is solely for evaluation and that in the end, you'd have to buy the OS same as everyone else, but that seemed wrong, so I'd like some clarification if I could.

FrozenEclipse said,
Just so I'm ABSOLUTELY clear on this, if you buy a TechNet subscription for the $349+ or whatever it is, you get access to Windows 7 shortly after it RTM's, with a legit key and all? Because I've also been told that TechNet is solely for evaluation and that in the end, you'd have to buy the OS same as everyone else, but that seemed wrong, so I'd like some clarification if I could. :)

i think its 10 keys you get.

It's for evaluation purposes, but not in the sense that shareware is 'for evaluation purposes'. TechNet's about equipping IT professionals, as I understand it, with what they need to become familiar with and demonstrate MS's technology to businesses that will ultimately make the larger investment.

It cannot be used in production environments or development environments, and it's not designed to be a solution for getting Windows onto each of your personal desktops, laptops, and media centers for one low price.

Most notably, a very pretty, easy to understand table of who TechNet is designed for is on the same page that lists the cost, so you really shouldn't have missed it. :3

TechNet gives you a license to use all the products. Even if you no longer subscribe to it, the keys that you received will still be good regardless of your subscription status. You won't be able to get new products or new keys, but they will work.

So no, you do NOT have to buy the OS after you have TechNet.

If you're getting your Win 7 from TechNet or MSDN, they will also have keys available.

Just a note - the Microsoft Volume Licensing website now has a little message on the home screen (after login) stating that Windows 7 Enterprise will be available to SA customers 'soon.'

counting the days down...

about cracking it. when it does get cracked which it will probably within a day. MS can and probably will put out a windows update that detects cracked keys/versions that is mandatory to install if you want further updates.

m.keeley said,
Confirmed by a bunch of no-bodies. May be true but it's hardly rock solid confirmation.

Well only time will tell. We'll see what happens.

m.keeley said,
Confirmed by a bunch of no-bodies. May be true but it's hardly rock solid confirmation.


+1

They "confirmed" an announcement would be forthcoming on July 13th. If I read it correctly it is an announcement of which build will be RTM, not the actual release itself. Yawn. Every day that goes by gives us one less day to guess and eventually it will be released and somebody's guesses will be correct.

Of course ;)

But non-subscribers still won't have keys and I think that's what people are talking about? As they will get access to the same bits MSDN will get via some leaked source.

I don't know. If worst case scenarion people will be able to re-arm it 4 times. In mean time Windows 7 should be out in the stores.

I don't think most will even need to rearm it. Those that get it by other means will only need to have a valid OEM key. Same as with Vista.

People all waiting for the RTM- but if it's not on sale til Oct 22nd and assuming most people grabbing the RTM here aren't system producers like Dell is everyone just gonna have 30 days then have to go back to the RC while they wait for their keys to arrive- presume these won't be sent out til Oct?

Paulz0r said,
People with Technet/MSDN/partner connections will be able to get the RTM either on the same day or shortly after.

I gathered that, I was wondering how they're gonna get keys to use it past 30 days.

Dar methinks the pirates don't be caring about those blimey keys. Honestly, with the upgrade deal MS offered, and assuming you can do a clean install with an upgrade disc, how could you not buy a copy of Windows 7? Besides for not actually buying one.

Smart for Microsoft to release this right at the beginning of holiday shopping. Gives Gateway, Dell, HP, Best Buy and all the others geared up and ready for the new i7 quad core systems freshly loaded with Windows 7. And it's about time Microsoft started timing their software releases with holiday shopping.

As a matter of fact...Best Buy is already getting ready cause most of their laptops from last year's models are being slashed by up to 40% off of retail. I saw their Asus gaming laptop that originally sells for 1500.00 selling for only 899.00.

If it was through that Neowin leak a few weeks back Microsoft has cleared that hole and killed the critters that crawled in with it long ago :P

What about Microsoft Connect Beta testers? They received a copy of Windows Vista RTM so is it safe to assume they will also get Windows 7 RTM?

There is that classic saying... Breaking down that nice word assume... You make an... ASS out of U and ME.

So no it isn't safe to assume anything. You'll see how it shakes down when the beta ends.

I don't know, just my 2 cents but I think the beta testers should be in a better position to receive a copy of 7 RTM because they actually contributed rather than TechNet subscribers which are just in it for the free software and did nothing to improve it.

ManOfMystery said,
I don't know, just my 2 cents but I think the beta testers should be in a better position to receive a copy of 7 RTM because they actually contributed rather than TechNet subscribers which are just in it for the free software and did nothing to improve it.


Never said they won't get a free copy :P Just said no one is in a position to say for certain ;)

Also, TechNet and MSDN subscribers were allowed to post bug reports too and many, including myself, did.

Also, MSDN/Technet subscribers aren't in it "for the free software". We subscribe because it is beneficial for our jobs to do so. For Technet users they need to have access to the software so they can test it in their companies and learn it so they aren't looking silly when it is deployed. MSDN subs like me need it so we can test the stuff we write on the OS so users don't complain about apps that we make not working.

Frazell Thomas said,
Never said they won't get a free copy :P Just said no one is in a position to say for certain ;)

Also, TechNet and MSDN subscribers were allowed to post bug reports too and many, including myself, did.

Also, MSDN/Technet subscribers aren't in it "for the free software". We subscribe because it is beneficial for our jobs to do so. For Technet users they need to have access to the software so they can test it in their companies and learn it so they aren't looking silly when it is deployed. MSDN subs like me need it so we can test the stuff we write on the OS so users don't complain about apps that we make not working.

No no, you misunderstood me. There are many people that subscribe to TechNet and MSDN (not so much MSDN because of the price tag) because they want the software. I know most of the subscribers have a reason to subscribe other than for free software but there are many I know who just want the apps. I apologize for making it seem like I didn't understand your response, I did.

gr8 news.
but why 13th? isn't it supposed to be unlucky. MS did skip the build version of office from 12 to 14. I

Hmmm good timing! Just bought a new HDD.... might wait the 2 weeks for Win7 to do a complete fresh install on my new HDD! Gotta love MSDN!

Laura said,
Well, the RC is running so well for me I can stand to wait until October for reformatting if I must!


You'll have to do a clean install, theres no upgrade option. I'll be doing a clean install. I am so excited and i am so pleased about this release. Finally Microsoft are doing things correctly.

1. public beta
2. public RC
3. Public RTM
4. huge improvements all around

Lets compare this to snow leopard. See? This is why i am going back to the PC. All snow leopard is are fixes, not refinement and i think, like Leopard it's another big joke. Goodbye Apple and overpriced hardware!

Tommy DW said,
Lets compare this to snow leopard. See? This is why i am going back to the PC. All snow leopard is are fixes, not refinement and i think, like Leopard it's another big joke. Goodbye Apple and overpriced hardware!

Jeez, next time check your facts before trolling. And why did you even feel the need to bring Leopard into this?

well, from using the RC for a couple of months now. I have noticed a couple of bugs, the more annoying one is when you go to eject an external disk, the menu doesn't pop up any more. This had better be fixed.

Very excited. This is such a good Os, it shows too. Take a look at the beta's for instance, it was stable back then for christ sakes. Just hope to god Microsoft don'#t over load it with **** like they did with Vista.

I know a lot of people are angry about Microsoft removed essential apps such as movie maker, msn and so on.
I like it, a nice stripped down system. I don't think this move makes it faster at all to be honest.

I have been using RC1 since week one and i have had no problems with it and it's still fast as hell.

I am so impressed and will be happy to legally buy this version of windows. It's worth the price in my opinion.

Well done Microsoft. Unlike Apple you have actually listend to the customers rather than adding thing you "think" the customer wants.

Hardly 'confirmed' just because some unknown geek on a board said so though is it?

No doubt we'll see in due course .. It could well be true ..

Pikey said,
Hardly 'confirmed' just because some unknown geek on a board said so though is it?

No doubt we'll see in due course .. It could well be true ..

No, that doesn't make it confirmed. However, as well as that person on a board saying that, the article also stated this -

The article
A few minutes ago sources close to the company, who wish to remain anonymous, have confirmed to Neowin that Windows 7 is indeed set to RTM on July 13.

That sounds like it has been confirmed, to me...
Of course, that is only when it is set to RTM, it could change. It's unlikely to change, but that is still a possibility.

No, that tells me anonymous sources say it's confirmed. Until MS states this directly, (or it actually happens), it's NOT confirmed.

I agree with Raa. "Sources close to the company" does not equal "The company". This news is therefore not confirmed. It's merely corroborated (sp?) by two separate sources. Not the same thing.

Windows 7 will set RTM on 21 - 23 July not 13.I kno u guys will ask me sources of this but i can not give out the information due to some reasons i have.Just wait and see !

iCan_Fly said,
Windows 7 will set RTM on 21 - 23 July not 13.I kno u guys will ask me sources of this but i can not give out the information due to some reasons i have.Just wait and see !

Your CIA arn't you! SPY!

iCan_Fly said,
Windows 7 will set RTM on 21 - 23 July not 13.I kno u guys will ask me sources of this but i can not give out the information due to some reasons i have.Just wait and see !


July 13 is just the date the escrow expires and the current build can be promoted to RTM. If for some reason the current build does not pass testing, a new build will go into escrow and yes, July 23 makes sense for a new escrow build to go through testing if the current build failed.

Sweet! I don't think I was this excited for a new operating system since the days of Codename Longhorn. I'm so glad I took the plunge to buy a TechNet subscription.

I haven't been this excited since...
... geez. It HAS been a long time!

Agreed, thank MS for Technet!

Anaron said,
Sweet! I don't think I was this excited for a new operating system since the days of Codename Longhorn. I'm so glad I took the plunge to buy a TechNet subscription. :)


I think the technet membership is worth it just for the 2 free microsoft tech support calls.

Available on MSDN on the same day?! I wish for that! Searching around on Vista RTM days, it appeared some days after RTM announcement, like a week after announcement.

He's saying it usually takes about a week from the actual RTM date for the downloads to show up on MSDN/Technet/Connect. I doubt they'll actually show up on any of those official sites on the 13th, but we will see.

Thunderbuck said,
I believe the Vista ISO was available for download within 48 hours of RTM. I will be keeping an eye out :)


Sounds about right.

It is hard to find the first days it went live as MSDN uses Akamai for initial popular new releases then they put it on MSDN proper after the heat cools down.

I hope the issues around the Win7 Beta release will prompt Microsoft to have additional bandwidth available for the MSDN/TechNet launch.

Vista was VERY hard to get for the first 24 hours or so after it was made available.

xendrome said,
I believe they said it will be on MSDN/Technet by the end of the month. Not the day of.


Even if. End of July is a lot nicer than October.

Raa said,
Don't push your luck Owen :P

It was worth a try. I thought someone out there may have been keen for a Windows 7 Celebratory spoon.

Well, I have 7264 installed and I definitely know why they didnt make that the RTM. Its very annoying. If the computer goes idle for awhile Aero starts turning off and on.. Usually stays off for about 5-10 mins and then comes back on and continues to do that even if you try to start using it..

statm1 said,
Well, I have 7264 installed and I definitely know why they didnt make that the RTM. Its very annoying. If the computer goes idle for awhile Aero starts turning off and on.. Usually stays off for about 5-10 mins and then comes back on and continues to do that even if you try to start using it..


Aero turns off just for one time and it's because Windows silently calculates your Windows Experience Index

The Patri0t said,
It better, lol, otherwise one will end up seeing the Windows 7 RTM in the list but download and keys will be grayed out!

It doesn't at all. Sorry, MSDNAA is only released at GA.

I had the exact same issue Lyon and it drove me nuts, but the weird thing is that I've reformatted my pc about 5 times (changing up Windows 7 builds) and it still happened. From extensive googling, researching, and analyzing it on my own, uPnP seems to be the culprit. Disabling SSDP Discovery Service in the Services list helps a LOT of people. Also, do you have Java installed, by any chance? If so uninstall it and see if it helps.

That's a show-stopper bug right there. WLM is one of the most popular programs in Windows. Microsoft has to find a fix for that before release, if it is a Windows bug and not an WLM one.

:: Lyon :: said,
It's a good timing actually, because my WLM has been freezing every few seconds and I think it's time to reformat anyway

I don't have that issue....so it's not showstopper. Likely to be hardware issue

I also do not have the problem. Nor do about 4 others that I know of.

One does have minor issues, but it could be a hardware problem.

I don't know if you'r referring to Windows Live Mail or Windows Live Messenger, but I've had some freezing problems with Windows Live Mail on the RC.

I'm referring to Windows Live Messenger. Thanks Pharos, I actually found lots of threads to disable the uPnP on my router. Did that, still happening. So I used Trillian Astra for now.

I was promised to get a review license key from Microsoft on the RTM day so I should be able to get it ahead of u guys (unless if they change their mind)

NO and don't try, previous version of the "7" family namely the betas and the RC and the rest of the leaked crap can NOT be upgraded, you will have to do a clean install

It is theortically possible, yes, though it takes some work (one of the configuration files in the installation media has to be edited, which introduces other complications). Microsoft does NOT recommend it.

You can use Windows Easy Transfer to migrate all of your users/files/settings, etc off of your 7201 build, do a clean install of the RTM, and then re-run Easy Transfer to suck all of your stuff back. It actually works really well. You get all the benefit of a clean install, with all the convenience of not having to reconfigure everything yet again.

Wow I thought it'd be on 22nd October, according to the press release that I got from their PR agency

UPDATE: oops, I miss the "Note" paragraph lol

QUESTION: If we install the RTM on July 13th, then what happens when October 22nd comes up? Can we just upgrade to the final final release, will it be the same version as the RTM, or will we have to do a clean install of it?

I can't wait either

andrewbares said,
QUESTION: If we install the RTM on July 13th, then what happens when October 22nd comes up? Can we just upgrade to the final final release, will it be the same version as the RTM, or will we have to do a clean install of it?

I can't wait either :)


It will be the same.

RTM means finished. So from now till Oct 22nd, Microsoft will spend time sending it to OEMs and packaging it up for retail.

andrewbares said,
QUESTION: If we install the RTM on July 13th, then what happens when October 22nd comes up? Can we just upgrade to the final final release, will it be the same version as the RTM, or will we have to do a clean install of it?

I can't wait either :)


Your big problem here will be finding a key that will activate, unless you're prepared to reinstall every 30 days.

But MSDN and Technet subscribers will get keys for it, as with all other software available via those subscriptions. The pirates on the other hand, will be without a key for a long time.

The Guardian said,
But MSDN and Technet subscribers will get keys for it, as with all other software available via those subscriptions. The pirates on the other hand, will be without a key for a long time.

Thunderbuck said,
Your big problem here will be finding a key that will activate, unless you're prepared to reinstall every 30 days.

Do you both honestly think it will take 30 days to be cracked?? I don't once it's out there I give it a week or so, teams around the world, will be falling over themselves to be the first to release this with a working keygen/patch.

Thunderbuck said,
Your big problem here will be finding a key that will activate, unless you're prepared to reinstall every 30 days.

Is this true? I intend to buy it when it comes out in October but wanted to be running as soon as it hits RTM. If it'll lock me out every 30 days forcing me to reformat however, it's probably not worth it.

Unless there's some way to buy a key earlier? How much does technet or MSDN cost? :P

cerealfreak said,
Do you both honestly think it will take 30 days to be cracked?? I don't once it's out there I give it a week or so, teams around the world, will be falling over themselves to be the first to release this with a working keygen/patch.

Some witty guy you are, aren't you? You can come to my home and try to "crack" Windows XP so that I can install Microsoft Security Essentials on it.

Dirtie said,
Is this true? I intend to buy it when it comes out in October but wanted to be running as soon as it hits RTM. If it'll lock me out every 30 days forcing me to reformat however, it's probably not worth it.

Unless there's some way to buy a key earlier? How much does technet or MSDN cost? :P

I think you should be able to rearm Windows 7, like Vista. However I am not sure, they may have removed the feature, as it led to a crack being released which made inifinite rearms possible.

The Guardian said,
But MSDN and Technet subscribers will get keys for it, as with all other software available via those subscriptions. The pirates on the other hand, will be without a key for a long time.

I believe you are underestimating the pirates. They will likely have keys before the MSDN and Technet subscribers. I'm not endorsing it; I'm just a realist.

On second thought, and after reviewing some comments from above, getting it to activate and pass Genuine Validation isn't so easy, is it?

Have you all forgotten about SLMGR ? it still works under Win7, i dont see the problem with the 'boohoo 30 days' crap

The Guardian said,

I think you should be able to rearm Windows 7, like Vista. However I am not sure, they may have removed the feature, as it led to a crack being released which made inifinite rearms possible.

I think they will leave it but also close up the loophole that made it possible. It is still present in the RC build.

joontje said,
Have you all forgotten about SLMGR ? it still works under Win7, i dont see the problem with the 'boohoo 30 days' crap

Yea. That's what the other guy was saying about the rearm command. The command is 'slmgr /rearm' for those that forgot.

Dirtie said,
Is this true? I intend to buy it when it comes out in October but wanted to be running as soon as it hits RTM. If it'll lock me out every 30 days forcing me to reformat however, it's probably not worth it.

Unless there's some way to buy a key earlier? How much does technet or MSDN cost? :P


Technet is 349$ plus tax right now.

cerealfreak said,
Do you both honestly think it will take 30 days to be cracked?? I don't once it's out there I give it a week or so, teams around the world, will be falling over themselves to be the first to release this with a working keygen/patch.

It's already been done.

Wodin said,
On second thought, and after reviewing some comments from above, getting it to activate and pass Genuine Validation isn't so easy, is it?

Oh, it is very very easy on Vista (it validates and everything), it's easier on Vista than on XP.

Dead'Soul said,
I can wait..

I can't.. I've waited so many long months as I could not risk trying BETA on my solo work/play computer but I wanted to do that everyday and now its so close.. I will get the RTM if I can.. even if I will have to reinstall it after 30 days I'll do that till October.. but I hope MS gives us new keys every month so we won't have to..