Creative Zen Touch 2 passes FCC, thinks highly of itself

Creative used to make PMPs that were the iPod’s primary competition its heyday. The Creative Zen Touch was the last device they made that really made any kind of waves in that market-saturated sea, and we haven’t seen anything else from Creative that tried to take a serious stab at the market share domination that Apple currently enjoys. Well, Creative is about to jump on the Android bandwagon to try and revive their PMP line.

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According to Engadget, The FCC just finished certifying the Creative Zen Touch 2, an Android 2.1 powered PMP with a 3.2 inch resistive touchscreen, b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth, 2MP camera and an FM radio tuner. It’s an interesting if predictable move by Creative, as they wouldn’t be the first to try and use the Android OS in a PMP. Archos is doing it, Samsung is going to announce their galaxy Player at CES 2011 (stay tuned for full Neowin coverage of that), and manufacturers will likely gobble up the free OS for use in multiple attempts to dent the iPod’s market share.

What’s notable about Creative’s offering is how expensive it will be considering the specs. Engadget reported a while back that the device will break the $200 mark, which is basically unheard of for a basic PMP that isn’t an iPod, or that has more than 32GB of built-in memory. Let’s compare: Apple is offering an 8GB iPod Touch with a current OS, a high-quality “retina” capacitive touchscreen and dual cameras (with the rear camera offering 720p video recording). This is all for $229. Creative is selling a Zen Touch 2 at the same storage capacity, with an inferior 3.2 inch resistive touchscreen, an outdated version of the Android OS (no word if it will even have access the Android Market; typically, Android PMPs do not), one camera, and, according to Engadget, cheap build quality, for around $230 (£149 at the Creative website). According to our math, it just doesn’t add up. In a soon-to-be saturated Android PMP market, price wars will be critical, and Creative is definitely not setting out on the right foot at these prices.

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Why was this not posted under "Editorial" or "Review"? You basically spent the entire 3rd paragraph slamming the product, Mr. Friedman.

All that for a product that hasn't even been released yet.


@ ILikeTobacco: Try Klipsch. ProMedia 2.1 or ProMedia 5.1's will destroy any Bose system, at a fraction of the cost. Did I mention they are THX certified?

On the defence of resistive touch screen, try using a capacitive touch screen with gloves on (those who live in the colder areas will know what I mean).

Doubt it would matter to me.. a few weeks a go i went to store after store searching for ANY creative PMP because i lost my old ZEN and was disapointed to see all retailers did NOT carry creative PMP products
I live in BC Canada and i tried places like wallmart (where i bought the last ZEN) and Future Shop
where i bought the ZEN before that.. and no one at all had 1 creative pmp !

Ended up buying one that was so crappy i returned it and bought a Sandisk Fuze+
and good god the touch pad thingy is a sketchy nightmare.. i would have paid double for a used zen
with REAL buttons instead of this lame bs touch pad/screen crap !!!
Trying riding a bike through an icy intersection while navigating a touch screen LOL
I guess BUTTONS arn't cutting edge technology anymore.. Lemmings.. 1 does it, they all do it..

the pmp market blows.. had theyre been a best buy where i live i was gonna but an android tablet.

I miss my ZEN sooo much
They had that product refined nicely i wouldn't have asked them to change a thing.

Touch pad / Touch screen crap sucks HARD !

I am Not PCyr said,
Doubt it would matter to me.. a few weeks a go i went to store after store searching for ANY creative PMP because i lost my old ZEN and was disapointed to see all retailers did NOT carry creative PMP products
I live in BC Canada and i tried places like wallmart (where i bought the last ZEN) and Future Shop
where i bought the ZEN before that.. and no one at all had 1 creative pmp !

Ended up buying one that was so crappy i returned it and bought a Sandisk Fuze+
and good god the touch pad thingy is a sketchy nightmare.. i would have paid double for a used zen
with REAL buttons instead of this lame bs touch pad/screen crap !!!
Trying riding a bike through an icy intersection while navigating a touch screen LOL
I guess BUTTONS arn't cutting edge technology anymore.. Lemmings.. 1 does it, they all do it..

the pmp market blows.. had theyre been a best buy where i live i was gonna but an android tablet.

I miss my ZEN sooo much
They had that product refined nicely i wouldn't have asked them to change a thing.

Touch pad / Touch screen crap sucks HARD !

lol, if you're that desperate, I'll sell you my Zen Vision:M

Sadly, Creative haven't made quality PMPs in years. The whole Zen brand failed after the Vision:M. The X-Fis are useless. I haven't used the Touch ones but they don't look very appealing.

After my Vision:M I went with a Cowon S9 and couldn't have been happier since. Quality PMP.
While it IS touch screen it still has tactile buttons for all the important business like track skipping and volume.

You may need to import it as I did. Every brick & mortar store I went to had never heard of Cowon.

Edit: Actually, looking over the Cowon website, I think the J3 has superceded the S9.

Edited by Baines, Dec 31 2010, 2:40am :

Baines said,
Sadly, Creative haven't made quality PMPs in years. The whole Zen brand failed after the Vision:M. The X-Fis are useless. I haven't used the Touch ones but they don't look very appealing.

After my Vision:M I went with a Cowon S9 and couldn't have been happier since. Quality PMP.
While it IS touch screen it still has tactile buttons for all the important business like track skipping and volume.

You may need to import it as I did. Every brick & mortar store I went to had never heard of Cowon.

Edit: Actually, looking over the Cowon website, I think the J3 has superceded the S9.

Exactly the same boat here; bought an S9 and was blown away by its sound quality compared to an iPod touch. No apps or internet or wifi or cameras or anything like that, but in terms of just playing media, look no further than a Cowon.

Agreed, I really think creative is probably in red numbers since around 2006ish, because, they're stuck soooo far behind in mp3 players. Last player I bought, was an x-fi 2,which sounds like rubbish compared to their OWN non-xfi creative zen vision:m... I really don't think their hardware division is enough to keep them up and going. They should let themselves be bought by a bigger company and put their technology to good use (xfi, zii, hardware, etc.)

Draconian Guppy said,
Agreed, I really think creative is probably in red numbers since around 2006ish, because, they're stuck soooo far behind in mp3 players. Last player I bought, was an x-fi 2,which sounds like rubbish compared to their OWN non-xfi creative zen vision:m... I really don't think their hardware division is enough to keep them up and going. They should let themselves be bought by a bigger company and put their technology to good use (xfi, zii, hardware, etc.)

Their MP3 players are more of a side note in their overall company. Their sound cards and midi interfaces are some of the best I have ever used. While I prefer Bose sound systems, Creatives are very good for their prices. The company as a whole won't be in the red because of some mp3 players not selling well.

ILikeTobacco said,

Their MP3 players are more of a side note in their overall company. Their sound cards and midi interfaces are some of the best I have ever used. While I prefer Bose sound systems,

I stopped reading right about there.

chconline said,

I stopped reading right about there.

So which computer sound system sounds better than a Bose? Logitech, Creative, and Altec systems, while not bad, don't compare to the quality of sound you get from a Bose system.

ILikeTobacco said,

So which computer sound system sounds better than a Bose? Logitech, Creative, and Altec systems, while not bad, don't compare to the quality of sound you get from a Bose system.

Lol yeah, BOSE is still THE BEST!! ^^ I'd have bose everywhere around my house if I were rich lols.

.Neo said,
What a joke. My 2008 iPod touch offers better quality than this crap.

Better quality of what? Not the sound I guess.
Apple is so fun.
They release a media player that has bad sound wuality.
Then they release a phone that has problems with calls.

RealFduch said,

Better quality of what? Not the sound I guess.
Apple is so fun.
They release a media player that has bad sound wuality.
Then they release a phone that has problems with calls.

This!

I can't understand how a company can release something that is bad at the MAIN FREAKING PURPOSE of the device. The Ipod Touch sound quality is anything but desirable next to the competitors like iRiver (dead). But hey, they didn't make "amazingly", "beatutiful", "better better better"-devices but instead focused on the sound quality/music experience and hey, that's "downhill" for the main market. I mean, focusing on the sound quality for a music player seems pretty stupid doesn't it?

Only a few people noticed the ├╝bersmall iRiver S10 released in 2006 which totally blew the iPod Shuffle (which cost about the same) of the chart in terms of specs, sound quality and evevn design. But no one noticed it. Maybe it's bad advertising and people actually need to get "amazingly" shoved up their faces before they can decide what to want. And now 4 years later Apple release the iPod Shuffle which finally can start to compete with the S10. But hey, that thing got touch and stuff. The sound quality is still behind the S10 and you know what? The S10 worked ANYWHERE. It could act as a USB-drive or it could use MTP. No constraint to a specific crappy software (iTunes I am talking about you!).

Stupid freakin' market ...

Edited by Pettor, Dec 31 2010, 10:45am :

The Protagonist said,
wait creative is still a business, they failed in my books years ago

they failed for me after the audigy vista driver debacle. creative, never again in my household.

Draconian Guppy said,
Yuck... Resistive.

After the Zen vision:m creative just went downhill for me...

Pretty much... I still have a Creative Zen Vision:M in my closet, but stopped using it after I got an iPhone. Creative used to be somewhat competitive, with the release of the ZVM anyway. It provided large capacity, great screen, plays pretty much anything you throw at it, and a decent interface. My only complaint was that it's thick, but it was still somewhat acceptable back then. The sound quality was absolutely top notch. But nowadays they're no longer competitive in sound quality, I gave up and used a set of V-MODA Vibe II's with my iPhone which produces surprisingly excellent audio.