'Day One' update for Xbox One will take 15-20 minutes to download

If you are lucky enough to get an Xbox One console on the day it is officially released on November 22nd, you will also have to download a update before you can start using the device to play games. But just how big will that 'Day One' update?

In IGN's latest update to its ongoing "Ask Microsoft Anything" Q&A, Microsoft's Xbox One Chief Platform Architect Marc Whitten was asked about the file size of the Day One update and how long it will take to install. Whitten stated;

We are optimizing Xbox One so that the day one update is as fast as possible. While we’re still finalizing the details, we expect that the download will take between 15 and 20 minutes for most users.

That's still going to be a rather lengthy amount of download time and it suggests that the Day One patch will be quite large. It's going to be an interesting test of Microsoft's servers as all those new buyers of the Xbox One download the update at around the same time.

Whitten also indicated that, just like the Xbox 360, Microsoft will update the Xbox One's dashboard once or twice a year following the launch, stating, " ... we will continue to learn from what customers want and love to iterate on the best dashboard experience." Whitten was noncommittal in terms of the Xbox One getting its own Twitter and Facebook apps, stating, "While I can’t comment on the specifics of these two partners right now, at launch you will be able to access Twitter and Facebook through the Internet Explorer web browser on Xbox One at launch."

Source: IGN | Image via Microsoft

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What all the crazy lunatics here aren't considering is this. After the Xbox One was officially announced, which likely means it was already in production, Microsoft likely has millions of units already to ship. So they were not able to apply the update, which I am sure has something to do with all the changes they made afterwards.

Anyone who would complain about 20 mins of time is simply stupid. Even if I did it. I am sure you can find something creative to do? Unless you don't have a wife or girlfriend, which you likely would have if you too 15-20mins from your console schedule and come out the basement and meet real people.

Who cares about the update. In 20 mins you can go have a drink, go make love, go walk the dog, read the manual which you normally don't. Surf the web on your PC, or play with some other gadget. Play your other Xbox. I mean come on! 15-20 mns? Go fix something to eat instead of slamming cold cut sandwiches all day. I mean, I am sure there is a way to past the time without it being such a big deal.

If they didn't update you'd complain about that. I have never seen such a bunch of crybabies as the ones I see who come here. You guys really need a frikkin life. Plug the box in, start the update and go outside and take a walk, wash the car, walk the dog or something. I mean for the love of humanity stop complaining about the most pettish BS in the world.

I cant believe there are people trying to guess how big the update is. Really? Who cares how big it is. Before you use the thing you need to update it. Who cares if it took all day? If your connection sucks that bad, then plan to go to someone else's place and do it. I mean, use your head for more than a hat rack.

All that should matter is, the update complete, it updates the box and afterwards it works like it is suppose too. Do you complain about the 15 to 20min it takes for your iPad to update to iOS7? Because it took my iPad 3 about that amount of time. I mean really?

15-20 mins? So what. No big deal. I likely wont even take my pre-order out the box. Its heading straight to eBay in hopes it gets up to double what I paid. Or buy now for $1000...lol

12-20mins to wait for a box you are going to have for 5+ years is no big deal.

Considering there were new studies released in the last few weeks about average internet speeds across the U S of A, extrapolate and you can guestimate quite easily. they say the average American still has ~2Mbit connection.

Being in Canada, I have 100Mbit, so this 15-20 mins will be ~1Min if content is cached to Akamai by then.

Its really annoying when they do not tell you specifics, the time is variable depending on your network speed so why not just show the file size??

Same with windows update, why not show the download rate??

Voice of Buddy Christ said,
I sense delays and problems similar to the issues with the iOS 7 update.

I predict a lot of drama. And i don't think that it will be only 20 minutes. 20 minutes sounds like an euphemism of "long time / unable to connect" problems.

we expect that the download will take between 15 and 20 minutes for most users.

Two very vague keywords used in there... I'll take this with a brick of salt.

Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

Consumers get upset that an update takes 15 to 20 minutes to download - the Internet goes wild.

MS provide a heads up that there will be a 15 - 20 minute update - the Internet goes wild.

It is like Batfleck all over again! LOL

20 mins! Cry me a river...

Well, What if you don't connect it to the ehh... Internets? After all, wasn't that silly requirement removed? :-p

There was not a removal of a connected requirement. There was a removal of the game sharing features designed around a 24 hour check-in. Hopefully they'll have a an option to turn off "whiny old fart/Gamestop viral marketing mode" so we can use it again.

Spicoli said,
There was not a removal of a connected requirement. There was a removal of the game sharing features designed around a 24 hour check-in. Hopefully they'll have a an option to turn off "whiny old fart/Gamestop viral marketing mode" so we can use it again.

Emmm... http://ie.ign.com/articles/201...internet-used-game-policies

I understand from this article and many others around that XB1 will not require an always-on Internet connection.

Also: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/xbox-one-then-and-now

Edited by pmdci, Oct 1 2013, 1:39pm :

pmdci said,

Emmm... http://ie.ign.com/articles/201...internet-used-game-policies

I understand from this article and many others around that XB1 will not require an always-on Internet connection.

Also: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/xbox-one-then-and-now

It never did. It required a 24 hour checkout cycle so you could share your license with other people. Without that you could constantly be sharing it and they would just have to pull the connection until they're done playing it. There would be pirate web sites where you could buy a share. With the 24 hour thing, that's not really practical. Gamestop of course ran their viral marketing campaign because this kind of licensing kills their antiqued disk based business model.

Personally,
I think that's ridiculous as all hell, no matter what speed you have! A brand new gaming system, not even released yet, and they're putting out an update for it already that they're anticipating will take that long? Anyone here that says 15-20 isn't that long, which really it isn't, is flat out lying! If a Windows update was to take that long, such as .Net crap, which you quite often hear people complaining about, then this 15-20 minutes is a long time also.

No wonder I've never wanted anything to do with XBox!!

Spicoli said,
You're not serious are you?

Are you justifying a zero day bug?. (or more specifically, a minus "x" day bug) sheesh.

cork1958 said,
snip

And here ladies and gentleman is the very definition of a clueless person.

In order to have enough inventory to sell at launch, the factories have already started production of the console. Probably weeks ago in fact. Do you think that development of the software should just stop at that point and only start again after the console is released? No, of course not.

Microsoft are continuing to develop the software in the 2-3 months between the console going to manufacturing and release. This is not unusual. Why should they waste those 2-3 months?

I'm betting the PS4 will be no different, although Sony have a habit of tuning their announcements to take advantage of the perceived "negatives" of the Xbox One, so I'd hardly expect them to come out and admit it at this point. Don't forget that the rumour goes that Sony planned to include the camera in the PS4 box at one stage, and then changed their minds once they heard Microsoft were doing the same and had announced their pricing.

Jaxkesa said,
What's so bad about waiting 20 minutes? You could just read the manual, check on your PS4 pre-order or something..

Anyone who pre-ordered a PS4 would have already had it for a week before they would ever start this update.

Lord Method Man said,

Anyone who pre-ordered a PS4 would have already had it for a week before they would ever start this update.

In the US perhaps... here, PS4 is out a week later than Xbox One

They are probably trying to anticipate the sheer load on their servers as people get home and turn on their Xboxes for this update. I know it will be staggered because of timezones but I bet there will still be quite close to peak for the first 24-48 hours.

Not to mention people then adding their download codes for Fifa/Forza in Europe which we can expect to be 40-50GB imo.

Microsoft should've just states how many M/GBytes is the "Day One' update/patch is ?

Can those 'updates' stored to BlueRay burner so it can be applied for offline Xbone units, in batch ?

Torolol said,
Microsoft should've just states how many M/GBytes is the "Day One' update/patch is ?

Can those 'updates' stored to BlueRay burner so it can be applied for offline Xbone units, in batch ?

Yeah, the idea that we know how big the update is would have been great.
I feel Microsoft is trying to give the console gamers an idea of how long the update will take. For the majority of the gamers on the xbox, they don't really understand bits from Bytes and certainly won't know how long it'll take on their internet connection. All they know, is the xbox has to use the password to connect to the internet box that flashes when they're playing games.
At the same time, Microsoft doesn't want to give the size of the update out because of people like us who know how fast it should take for a given file size to download. Save us tweeting how slow Microsoft's servers are on our 100Mbit connections to download that 500MB update, they'd prefer to smooth out the complaints and have people argue between themselves with users telling each other it's their connection speed that's the problem.

But regarding offline xbox updates... we're lucky we're getting ANY kind of offline game play. Microsoft has already said xbox one will require a mandatory first online update. I assume it's because the firmware they ship with requires you to login online before it can do anything like it was originally designed to... but I think it's also a way for Microsoft to make more people make online xbox accounts and suck them into their buy-in eco system.

Because no one knows how big it's going to be. It depends on how many patches get through the pipe before release date. If you need "offline" don't buy it as it's an Internet device.

It's going to be an interesting test of Microsoft's servers as all those new buyers of the Xbox One download the update at around the same time.

How would this be any worse than everyone downloading the regular dashboard updates released for the 360? Any way you look at it, more people download those updates at the same time than would ever be able to on launch day of the One...

I bet there is a lot to download .
15 - 20 minutes ain't much time . Grab a coffee or just let your eyes marvel the Xbone package / Info sheets .

Decebalvs Rex said,
I bet there is a lot to download .
15 - 20 minutes ain't much time . Grab a coffee or just let your eyes marvel the Xbone package / Info sheets .

+1

Spicoli said,
It does if most of it is the installation time which they know exactly.

"we expect that the download will take between 15 and 20 minutes for most users."

Spicoli said,

Nitpicking wording in consumer oriented announcements doesn't work.

It says "Download" so obviously i see it as time to download. It doesn't change the fact that "Around 15 to 20 minuets" is pretty damn vague in a world where everyone has a different speed connection.

Spicoli said,

Nitpicking wording in consumer oriented announcements doesn't work.

What's nitpicking? The comment clearly talks about download time, not install time. You're talking nonsense mate.

Its probably not that large considering the average broadband speed is is probably pretty low.

Then again Xbox 360 system updates are so slow even on a 120meg connection. Its often taken my 360 10mins to download a 100mb system update from live.

I would imagine they based this on the average download speed for the country the reporter asking the question was based in, the US. Not sure on average speeds but i am pretty sure the US has a lot of slower connections (along with expensive fiber offerings) so i assume the average isn't too fast. Lets guess at 10Mbps, mine in the uk is 100Mbps so that will be a 2 minute download for me, fine

PurpleHaze420 said,
Hardly the biggest inconvenience...

Agreed. Seems to be people making a big deal about nothing... If they didn't release an update, people would be complaining about that... LOL

still though , that time frame could be on a decent broadband connection. what if you had a crap one, they should have said what size it was approximately at least...

Sony has a different argument than "duh", and sales will reflect that. You should see about joining MS marketing and planning Spicoli, like minds and all. lol.

You mean Sony has a viral marketing campaign you fell for? Both consoles will do well. The old change is bad types will buy Sony and the 21st century people will be XB1.

Hahaiah said,
Sony has a different argument than "duh", and sales will reflect that. You should see about joining MS marketing and planning Spicoli, like minds and all. lol.

Because you think that the PS4 wont need a first day update?

Most parts of the operating system are to be replaced which consist of the highly intrusive and offensive DRM. So expect a patch anywhere from 1-2 GB in size.

sanke1 said,

There is a thing on this planet. It's called sarcasm.

Oh, you're talking about that thing kids use by saying what they don't mean and then acting smug when adults think they mean what they said? I should reassess the maturity level here?

Spicoli said,

Oh, you're talking about that thing kids use by saying what they don't mean and then acting smug when adults think they mean what they said? I should reassess the maturity level here?


Well spotted uncle.

sanke1 said,

Ya I know but once posted, iPad refuses to edit. It may be an iOS7 bug.

Apple products don't have bugs, just features that don't work the way you want them to. /s

I think you'll find that an adult is more likely to be sarcastic than a kid. Back on subject anyway. It'd be nice if they just said the approx size of the update rather than "15-20 minutes to download"