Dell & Linux: plans for Linux outside the US, and more

According to its company blog, Dell has plans to offer Ubuntu Linux to more consumers in additional locations outside the United States as well as to small business customers. Further information will come this summer. The world's second PC manufacturer also plans to have an expanded group of Linux engineers (including Matt Domsch, John Hull and Michael E. Brown) provide frequent minor updates regarding the operating system via the Linux category on the company blog. Dell seems to be quite stubborn in giving consumers what they want and the company may have started quite a ripple in the Linux community: 'If the rumors about HP offering Ubuntu are true, we're glad to see other vendors join us in support of Ubuntu and open source. We welcome HP and other system vendors that want to join in this initiative.'

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Good news whether you like it or not. Were finally seeing an end to the Microsoft Windows only option. Unfortunately, we're all aware of the dirty tactics Microsoft uses to make Windows the only option. I'm sure they will try to play those cards here, knowing the US Govt will only slap them on the wrist.

In any case, good for you Dell. And HP apparently.

In India, In almost all the Retail PC selling shops, they preinstall Linux (Redhat & sometimes Ubuntu) to the machines & sell without any extra charge for a new PC..

Know what people do? -> Ask the sales man to install XP (even if they want to give some Rs3000) extra for an OEM copy. Dont know how much time it will take to learn linux for them...(like me, who doesnt even know wat it is like!, bcos i am moving all the time around windows since it my primary earning business machine).

Point being?

I'm pretty sure that people in India wouldn't go through the hassle of finding and ordering a linux box that costs about the same as a windows box just for the sake of having some "fun" installing windows themselves.

To put it another way: if your intention was to discredit Dell's sales of linux boxes, you failed.

After seeing this about Dell using Ubuntu in some of their systems awhile ago I went to their site and had a look. This lead me to Ubuntu's site and I ordered their FREE CDs. Well. Soon after the CDs arrived Vista screwed up in a major way again so I decided to give Windows a rest for a while and try out Linux instead. Well, you don't truly realize just how unstable Windows, any Windows, actually is until you really use another OS like Linux.

I may never go back to Windows as my primary OS. As it is I have VirtualBox with my old XP in it for some of my favorite programs, and as for my games there is always Cedega, or Crossover, that work pretty good at emulating a Windows gaming environment and will run the majority of games with very little trouble.

Foub said,
"Well, you don't truly realize just how unstable Windows, any Windows, actually is until you really use another OS like Linux. "


Are you joking....have you ever worked in a corporate company...almost all the OS are stable in operation...Microsoft never allow its developers to create a *unstable* OS as you say.

Preferably most big MNC's create a specific configured virtual images (XP SP2 + off 03 in general, now in our company we use Vista + off07) & they use it to install to new PC (with same config), which runs for years without any issues....so do you mean all those are unstable?

guruparan said,
Are you joking....have you ever worked in a corporate company...almost all the OS are stable in operation...Microsoft never allow its developers to create a *unstable* OS as you say.

That is because they only do very little on them with regard to what they use on them. Plus, there is also the IT who is CONSTANTLY looking after them.

Preferably most big MNC's create a specific configured virtual images (XP SP2 + off 03 in general, now in our company we use Vista + off07) & they use it to install to new PC (with same config), which runs for years without any issues....so do you mean all those are unstable?

That you know of. That is the thing with using an image file. As long as your data is backed up you can reset it. Believe me. I have 25 years experience with Windows. Microsoft's most stable OS was DOS, and still is. BTW, Vista is really still in beta.

For a home user it can be very unstable in comparison because they use a wider variety of apps and games as well as hardware.

yes because all we need is to confuse the end user even more that doesnt understand they are really the same thing...

neufuse said,
yes because all we need is to confuse the end user even more that doesnt understand they are really the same thing...
End users that don't know Ubuntu and SUSE are both different flavors of Linux aren't likely to be buying Linux on their Dell anyhow. ;)

These people would go with the standard Windows option.

kaiwai said,
Edit: Oh, and btw, I am a very happy Linux/OpenSolaris to Windows Vista convert. To say that Windows Vista is unstable speaks volumes for your crap quality hardware than anything to do with the operating system itself.

I use brand name hardware, like a Microsoft mouse, and webcam, a Sapphire x1650 Pro vid card, and an Audigy 2 sound card. Yeah, real crap. I'm not the only one who is saying that Vista is unstable either. Many are waiting for SP1 before even considering it. In fact many of the local computer stores have stopped carrying it because no else was buying enough of them to matter. They're requesting XP instead, and one store is even offering Ubuntu as well.

All my hardware works fine under Ubuntu, even the Microsoft webcam Lifecam VX-3000. I have several other webcams and they all work as well. Maybe it is you who has the cheap stuff. The only thing about Linux is that it has a higher learning curve than the others, but once you're in you got it.

P.S.

Ubuntu is very good at working with a wide range of hardware. I've tried many different Linux OSes and this is the best so far. I doubt though, that it will work with miniDiscs. BTW, how many actually still use miniDiscs anymore? It was like 8-tracks as in it came and went. Most use players like the iPod or MP3es. Ubuntu handles my 60GB Video iPod quite well.

P.P.S.

I just plugged in and tried my Apacer Mega Steno card reader and that to is working just fine.

kaiwai said,
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To the Linux developers - stop the f*cking excuses and support my damn hardware - stop coming up with **** and ball stories, suck up your pride, develop a stable driver api/abi and actually work with vendors rather than giving them the big finger.
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It's ok to whine about your hardware not working right. Some people have that experience. I have not.

However, you ought to place the blame where it properly lies. Not with the Linux developers. They have already offered free driver development, even to include signing Non-Disclosure Agreements, if required.

So, no "**** and ball stories" there. Just developers who have stepped up to the plate, and hardware manufacturers who have not.

markjensen said,
It's ok to whine about your hardware not working right. Some people have that experience. I have not.

However, you ought to place the blame where it properly lies. Not with the Linux developers. They have already offered free driver development, even to include signing Non-Disclosure Agreements, if required.

So, no "**** and ball stories" there. Just developers who have stepped up to the plate, and hardware manufacturers who have not.

Microsoft isn't nearly as accommodating. Just look at the mess up with video drivers, anti-virus and firewall programs under Vista. Linux is still pretty good, especially considering that, for the most part, its free. But you can't please everyone.

kaiwai said,
Great, and operating system that fails to support my hardware

(...)

To say that Windows Vista is unstable speaks volumes for your crap quality hardware than anything to do with the operating system itself.

And inconsistencies on your post speak volumes about you bias

kaiwai said,
Great, and operating system that fails to support my hardware - yeap, thats gonna take over the desktop in no time *rolls eyes* I've got a miniDisc recorder/player which is unsupported, a webcam, unsupported, card reader, unsupported - christ, one wonders whether anything is supported.

To the Linux developers - stop the f*cking excuses and support my damn hardware - stop coming up with **** and ball stories, suck up your pride, develop a stable driver api/abi and actually work with vendors rather than giving them the big finger.

Edit: Oh, and btw, I am a very happy Linux/OpenSolaris to Windows Vista convert. To say that Windows Vista is unstable speaks volumes for your crap quality hardware than anything to do with the operating system itself.

Pretty specific with your hardware there, aren't you? I bet all you did was install a flavor of linux fresh and get ****ed off because you didn't know how to use the terminal and switched over to something else.

You could have instead gone to the forums--Linux forums are normally incredibly friendly and helpful. Please, I'm sure you've scared somebody just now away from Linux simply because you're a fool, and I'd appreciate, for the sake of competition, you keep your overexaggerated horror stories to yourself. Especially when the horror story was avoidable in the first place.

Fanboys are becoming a fade nowadays, which is fine, to each his own, but I'm getting quite tired of young blood coming around with their unsourced bull**** and spreading a bunch of false information that scares off potentials. If you're going to say all this, remove the bias, remove the obvious Microsoft advertisement from the end (Remember, if you suck a company off long enough you're bound to get a load in the face sometime or another), and provide details of your circumstances. Your webcam didn't work? Really? Did you send them a detailed analysis of your discovery or did you send some random developer a bunch of cuss words without even saying what webcam you had. Similiar to your post here, actually.

Linux is user-friendly. Linux is not ignorant and idiot friendly.

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