Dell: Windows 8 touch-screen notebooks will cost more

If you want to get a Windows 8 notebook that also has touch screen features, be prepared to pay a bit more compared to a regular notebook. News.com reports that, in Dell's regular quarterly conference call this week, CEO and founder Michael Dell admitted that Windows 8 touch screen-based notebooks would be priced somewhat higher than their non-touch screen counterparts. He didn't say how much more touch screen-based laptops would cost.

On the other hand, that could also mean that consumers could be more interested in touch-screen notebooks when Windows 8 is officially launched later this year. Dell said:

Unlike other Windows transitions, this is a transition where you are going to need a new PC. whether it's a tablet or an ultrabook with touch or a notebook with touch or a PC with touch or some derivative hybrid of all of the above type of products.

Dell said that the company will have "a full complement of products" ready to go for the official launch of Windows 8 later this year. At the same time, Dell also admitted that a number of businesses are still upgrading their PCs to Windows 7. ITWorld.com quotes him as saying, "Corporations are still adopting Windows 7, so we don't think there will be a massive adoption of Windows 8 early on."

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Who needs a touch screen notebook? If you want one anyway of course it will cost more, it will include new tech and new components not in a lap top today.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned. Touch is fine for very casual content navigation. But when I need to get real work done, I reach for the keyboard and mouse.

I'm actually eyeing the Ivy Bridge ultrabooks now, and I have no desire for a touch screen. I mean, why bother? It's a laptop. Why open it and start touching the screen if I can work more efficiently with the keyboard and touchpad that's already in front of me?

Well, this sucks because, while I figured new tech in Windows 8 hardware would/might cost more, I am looking forward to a Dell tablet/netbook hybrid, while the one shown by intel -- but I don't want to spend a lot of money for it.

Maybe I'll keep my Dell 8100 desktop and just get an Android. That Transformer Infinity with its 1920x1200 res screen might be tempting... depending on the price.

$700 for a intel-based Windows 8 tablet with no keyboard and I'll buy.

If they can come up with a Pad that costs $500, why should slapping a keyboard on to that cost so much more. Ok, $200 with the hinge. So, $700. From Acer. $1400 from Dell. What else is new?

jimmyfal said,
If they can come up with a Pad that costs $500, why should slapping a keyboard on to that cost so much more. Ok, $200 with the hinge. So, $700. From Acer. $1400 from Dell. What else is new?

$700 from Asus.

If anyone thinks I'm touching my laptop screen with my finger and getting marks all over it is definitely mistaken. I'm not sure if that's just me....

mad_onion said,
If anyone thinks I'm touching my laptop screen with my finger and getting marks all over it is definitely mistaken. I'm not sure if that's just me....

The rest of us wash our hands after the fistful of cheetos....
I've been touching my TouchSmart TM2 for the last 3 years, no problems with marks on the screen.

calimike said,

2,000 bucks!

W00T O_O

no seriously if the cost is between 10% to 20% then it is i might be ok with me, more than that will be out of the question.

calimike said,

2,000 bucks!


Considering that there are plenty of touch screen (Windows-based and other) computers on the market already that cost less than half that....

RandomSample said,

W00T O_O

no seriously if the cost is between 10% to 20% then it is i might be ok with me, more than that will be out of the question.

it will be more considering the surrounding hype... of course you might got lucky with an Asus, Acer or something but i'm sure that HPs and Dells will cost a fortune

calimike said,

2,000 bucks!


Nah. At least the XPS 17 and 15 both have multi-touch displays. It does cost like 150 dollars, which is the same amount of putting a Full HD Screen (which I would prefer rather than the touch one since the touch one is 1366x768).

Fritzly said,

The point is how much more?.................

I'd say $100-$150 more. Dell has already offered a touch screen option on some of their Studio laptops. I believe it cost $150.

RandomSample said,

W00T O_O

no seriously if the cost is between 10% to 20% then it is i might be ok with me, more than that will be out of the question.

The other factor that will get overlooked, is that there are different levels of touch screen quality that could be used and offered.

So a basic low resolution touch screen like we find on the iPad would be a minimal cost increase, as you can already find in some of the lower end netbook touch screen Windows 7 PCs.

There are also high resolution digitizer class touch screens that support finger and stylus and have more 'points' of input, and do various simultaneous types of pen and finger and 'point size' input. These screens are still rather expensive and will jump the cost on a device a lot.

Apple told people that Stylus and 'Pen' input was not needed and silly and stupid... They didn't create this 'thinking' because it is true, they created this because they didn't want to put the expense of a digitizer quality screen on an iPad and also have to add a lot of programming to iOS to handle these types of input, especially in upper level application features like handwriting recognition that even OS X's features in these areas are embarrassing to Apple.

As the stylus Android phones are actually getting some attention, and when Windows 8 comes out with several tablets with digitizer level pen/stylus support, the world MIGHT wake up to the fact that finger dual/quad point touch alone is the cheap/cheesy way to handle UI.

thenetavenger said,

The other factor that will get overlooked, is that there are different levels of touch screen quality that could be used and offered.

So a basic low resolution touch screen like we find on the iPad would be a minimal cost increase, as you can already find in some of the lower end netbook touch screen Windows 7 PCs.

There are also high resolution digitizer class touch screens that support finger and stylus and have more 'points' of input, and do various simultaneous types of pen and finger and 'point size' input. These screens are still rather expensive and will jump the cost on a device a lot.

Apple told people that Stylus and 'Pen' input was not needed and silly and stupid... They didn't create this 'thinking' because it is true, they created this because they didn't want to put the expense of a digitizer quality screen on an iPad and also have to add a lot of programming to iOS to handle these types of input, especially in upper level application features like handwriting recognition that even OS X's features in these areas are embarrassing to Apple.

As the stylus Android phones are actually getting some attention, and when Windows 8 comes out with several tablets with digitizer level pen/stylus support, the world MIGHT wake up to the fact that finger dual/quad point touch alone is the cheap/cheesy way to handle UI.

It might be although I would not bet money on it........ I use a Convertible Tablet and I will buy a W8, full fledged, convertible tablet as soon as they will be available but seems that people are just super excited about Touch not handwriting.
Personally I would never trade handwriting for touch but I know that I am part of a minority................. as I have been for the last ten years.....................

The thinking that you "need" touch to use Windows 8 is wrong, sure it's nice and works well compared to Windows 7 but you really don't "need" it to get your work done. Hate it or love it the start screen works just as well with a kb alone (loads of kb shortcuts) or with the mouse as well.

GP007 said,
The thinking that you "need" touch to use Windows 8 is wrong, sure it's nice and works well compared to Windows 7 but you really don't "need" it to get your work done. Hate it or love it the start screen works just as well with a kb alone (loads of kb shortcuts) or with the mouse as well.

You're absolutely right but I bet my life on that every OEM will try to convince the customers that you REALLY NEED new hardware to get your work done.

I just wait for some tablet from Nokia, Dell is not overpriced enough for me :-D

GP007 said,
The thinking that you "need" touch to use Windows 8 is wrong, sure it's nice and works well compared to Windows 7 but you really don't "need" it to get your work done. Hate it or love it the start screen works just as well with a kb alone (loads of kb shortcuts) or with the mouse as well.

While you don't need touch, should try to buy only touchscreen computers once Windows 8 is released. MS see touch as the primary UI input in the future, so they really want to push it after the OS's release.

Meph said,

While you don't need touch, should try to buy only touchscreen computers once Windows 8 is released. MS see touch as the primary UI input in the future, so they really want to push it after the OS's release.

Except that no one uses touch on a desktop computer. It's uncomfortable to even try.

Laptop/Notebooks, Tablets, and Phone, surely.

Meph said,

While you don't need touch, should try to buy only touchscreen computers once Windows 8 is released. MS see touch as the primary UI input in the future, so they really want to push it after the OS's release.

<sigh>

MS have never said that they consider touch to be the "primary" input for Windows 8. All they've said is that touch will be treated as a first-class citizen along with more traditional input methods.

Meph said,

While you don't need touch, should try to buy only touchscreen computers once Windows 8 is released. MS see touch as the primary UI input in the future, so they really want to push it after the OS's release.

On a Tablet yes I would probably buy one with a touch screen if this will not mean loosing handwriting capabilities.
Will I replace my two 22" monitors for the desktop with others with Touch enabled? No, not really, I am all right with the mouse.

excalpius said,

Except that no one uses touch on a desktop computer. It's uncomfortable to even try.

Laptop/Notebooks, Tablets, and Phone, surely.

Ever use a desktop computer with touch capabilities? Much easier than you might think and more efficient. IMO

GP007 said,
The thinking that you "need" touch to use Windows 8 is wrong.

Agreed.
However, once you do touch windows 8 for the first time, you WANT to touch windows everywhere.
Same with Kinect, once you yell at your movie playback, it's hard to go back to fumbling with the remote in the dark.

It's all about preference, and it's nice to see my preference getting special attention this go-round.

metalguy90 said,

Ever use a desktop computer with touch capabilities? Much easier than you might think and more efficient. IMO

Mind to enlighten me how it would be more efficient? The idea to stretch my arms across the desk to touch a screen does not seem very comfortable or productive to me. Now if you are talking about restaurants, assembly lines or stores I agree that is different but we have already had them for ages.

deadonthefloor said,

Agreed.
However, once you do touch windows 8 for the first time, you WANT to touch windows everywhere.
Same with Kinect, once you yell at your movie playback, it's hard to go back to fumbling with the remote in the dark.

It's all about preference, and it's nice to see my preference getting special attention this go-round.

I have been using a convertible Tablet for the last ten years as a replacement for my laptop and I see your point: instead of touching the screen with my fingers I use a pen to do it. Said that I can use a pen to interact with Office not only touching icons and menus but also to enter real data in spreadsheets etc. so I consider it more versatile that touching with fingers............. At least for now.

Meph said,

While you don't need touch, should try to buy only touchscreen computers once Windows 8 is released. MS see touch as the primary UI input in the future, so they really want to push it after the OS's release.

Microsoft DOES NOT see touch as the primary UI input in the future.

The insanity of 'touch' and 'Metro' and fools locked into thinking that Windows 8 NEEDS touch is starting to get to the breaking point.

There are MANY UI concepts of the future, and even though many see touch as a stepping stone, it is NOT the long term future, as image base input and other 'presence' mapping technologies will be the future.

Even Microsoft Surface is NOT A TOUCH based design, it is an imaging based input design that 'sees' objects on or near the screen, including fingers and other 'touchy' concepts but has nothing to do with actual 'touch'.

Microsoft's approach is to support as many and offer extensible input APIs for a virtually unlimited types of input technologies from sound and speech, to imaging to even sensors and motion. Windows 7 have more input technologies than any other OS in history and a portion of them are directed towards 'touch', and Windows 8 adds very little to the actual input technologies, as they have been around since Windows 7 was released.

deadonthefloor said,

Agreed.
However, once you do touch windows 8 for the first time, you WANT to touch windows everywhere.
Same with Kinect, once you yell at your movie playback, it's hard to go back to fumbling with the remote in the dark.

It's all about preference, and it's nice to see my preference getting special attention this go-round.

Bingo...

This is why touch monitors and TabletPC sales should have taken off with Windows 7 as well, because once you actually use even a Windows 7 PC with touch, it is cumbersome to go back to a non-direct interaction input modality.

It is too bad that the technology 'press' and bloggers and utter fools downplayed Windows 7 and touch, as it is a great combination. Even if users are just wanting the ease of an iPad or Android tablet, there are a few settings in Explorer itself and Windows 7 that can mimic either tablet platform convincingly, while still offering touch features that iPads and Android cannot do. (For example, a high end Windows 7 touch system can see 50 points of input at the same time, with additional information on each point from shape and pressure to even image and colors assigned to the point.

At the end of 2009, it would have been a great time for touch screen makers and computer MFRs to offer and make touch a somewhat standard feature for users.

However, the iPad and the ignorance of using touch on Windows 7 that was repeated again and again in the 'tech press' made people believe Windows 7 and touch was a bad combination. This myth became so real that Microsoft decided to create an interface that put the concept of touch in user's minds.

Now, sadly, people are so stuck on Metro, that they don't realize it can be used without touch, and also don't realize that the Desktop, like Windows 7, works great with touch. Leaving people hating Windows 7/Windows 8 desktop for touch, and hating Windows 8 Metro for anything but touch.

Both myths again are insanely ignorant, and the 'tech press' and idiots like Paul T. and Mary Jo F. will continue to share their view of the world and push them because they don't understand, and by the time they do understand, they won't back down even when Microsoft explains it to them slowly.
(And they are just two of the 'tech press' that don't have a clue with egos that will not allow them to look at things beyond their ability to understand.)


PS Neowin, if you are paying attention, this technical 'understanding' is an area you could really shine and stand out from the tech press industry, but so far you seem to be reluctant to tackle topics beyond bumper sticker headlines.

excalpius said,
Except that no one uses touch on a desktop computer. It's uncomfortable to even try.

I agree with you there, but that's going to change. As Sinofsky said, we can expect a lot of changes with devices to make touch work, like how some new desktop touchscreens now fold towards you.

MS have never said that they consider touch to be the "primary" input for Windows 8. All they've said is that touch will be treated as a first-class citizen along with more traditional input methods.

Sorry. I didn't mean it like that. But I meant that they expect mainstream users to be interacting with their computers mainly using touch in the future. I'm not saying it will completely replace the mouse, but it will become the most used type of input. The other two are obviously still needed and will still be there.