Did Canada get short-sided on its WP7 shipments?

WP7 not only launched today in the United States, but Canada also is launching the new platform today too. But, unlike the US which so far is reporting minimal supply shortages, Canada is a different story. 

Twitter reports that users are having trouble finding any WP7 devices in the great white north and that devices may not be in stock for some time. One user reports that his local Rogers is claming a two week wait time until they get any (read they never had any of the devices) of the Samsung Focus in stock. Another user reports that he called several Bell stores who acknowledged that the platform has launched but they have no devices in stock. 

It seems as if Microsoft and its US carriers may have gotten priority on stock supplies. As the platform continues to create more buzz now that it's launched, Microsoft needs its vendors to get as many products into the stores as possible.  If Microsoft cant show solid sales during Q4, it could be a massive blow to the company and Steve Ballmer, who recently just sold off a boat load of his Microsoft stock

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In Canada, Telus launched today with good stock of HTC 7 Surround (although it may be that they haven't made it through their supply chain to all stores across the country) and low stocks of the LG Optimus 7 but they should be fine in another 2 or 3 days as there are additional shipments coming in. This was driven by high demand for the LG phone in Europe. Bell launched today with limited quantities of the LG Quantum but should be fine on supply in-store by end of week as it makes its way through their supply chain. Rogers had limited devices being sold online today due to WW shortages of the Samsung Focus and will likely not have stock for a few weeks and best to talk to them about that situation. I can say with confidence that this doesn't have anything to do with corporate stores vs. franchises. They just simply don't have very many of them so if you want one buy it on-line.

Hey, bigm0e I was actually there a lot of intrest from people unfortunately when I went to go buy a Lg Optimus 7 phone they didn't have any in stock however they did have the HTC surround. They told me to come back around 1 - 2 pm and when I went back they said sorry we wont get none until wednesday to friday, but they were nice enough to take down my name and number so I could recieve a free Xbox 360 S. Only thing i dont about telus is there major rip off plans.

Actually, TELUS did launch today. I passed by the downtown store in Eaton Center, and they were giving away a free Xbox 360 S (4GB) with every purchase of either the LG or the HTC handset.

They also had MS reps on the floor to showcase the devices, there was alot of IT guys asking about Exchange and Sharepoint integration. I'm a Rogers customer, so I had to ask why Rogers did not launch today. He also doesn't know but said they were "supposed to".

Good job on TELUS' behalf.

Except in Manitoba, where only Rogers has a compatible network. Way to go getting your HSPA+ network running MTS (Q1 2011) and Telus (sometime after the apocalypse).

Like really, wtf are they doing these god damn OEMs what do they think we still live on windows 95 and all run on nokia n-gages, with dial up.I blame our carriers bunch of retards running the places, they better get some by Christmas rush or boxing day because I want a good upgrade deal from Rogers (What another joke) like cant they make a good carrier in Canada. REALLY!!. Like we still exist in the whole launch.

Vodafone in Australia didn't get their stock until almost 2 weeks after launch. On launch day none of the stores knew anything about their devices, nor could they tell you plans and pricing...

It was really only Telstra that had stock on launch day.

It was a poor launch in Australia unfortunately, looks like you're having the same poor launch.

While I know this is not related to Canada, here in Grand Rapids, Michigan my local store is sold out completely of Samsung Focuses. They said they had 15 in today and are unsure of when the next shipment will come in.

Same **** here. I went to two Rogers Store and both of them don't have it or a clue what i'm talking about. I had to do a search on their website to find it. Not even a banner or some kind of verbiage about the phone.
http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal
After search
http://www.rogers.com/web/link..._Detailed=I917BLKR&N=52+11+4294966826

Surprisingly The Telus store In Yorkdale Mall next door to the Rogers store has the HTC Surround and I got to play with it. It's a nice phone.

Must be the big head honchos... because on redboard, there seems to be enough interest. I am myself am waiting to experience it first hand before I make my decision. So is my girlfriend, as I said wait, and make a decision based on what you want between BB/iPhone/WP7/Android.

In the end, I'll probably get the focus and get the 32gb expandable storage.

So I called a Rogers Wireless store here in Vancouver (Surrey), and what the guy told me was this:

Rogers is only offering the phones online for the next 2 weeks, after which the dealers will get the phones in-store.

The reasoning behind this: from what I could tell from our conversation and a little figuring out is that because, at least in the province of BC, the Rogers Wireless stores are all personally owned franchises, that the Rogers Corporation is trying to take as many of the sales of the phones as possible before allowing it's franchisees to start selling the new platform. They must have figured that there is enough demand that they can stand to make a tidy profit during the first 2 weeks after launch before enabling THEIR OWN FRANCHISEES to get some of that business. Online, you can get the Focus for $199.99 with a 3 year contract. The guy I spoke to said if I was willing to wait the 2 weeks and get it from him, I could get it for $99.99 on the same 3 year contract. Meaning they make AT LEAST $100 on every phone sold, and the Rogers Corporation is trying to keep as much of that for themselves as possible.

That's just freaking PATHETIC... on so many levels. So I can't get my hands on a device (not that I need to, I know I want the Focus badly enough), and it prevents the 'everyday' consumer from getting first-hand experience with the platform. Rogers is basically not helping the platform to flourish. And how does it make sense to not get the platform out to your own franchisees? They're the ones that promote your offerings, and YOUR PLANS WHERE YOU MAKE MOST OF YOUR MONEY!!! I can't believe how stupid they're being. Yes, I understand basic business practices in order to increase revenue, but they're limiting themselves...

Even with all that said, I'm still getting a Focus... just extremely ****ed at their tactics here.

r1zzah said,
So I called a Rogers Wireless store here in Vancouver (Surrey), and what the guy told me was this:

Rogers is only offering the phones online for the next 2 weeks, after which the dealers will get the phones in-store.

The reasoning behind this: from what I could tell from our conversation and a little figuring out is that because, at least in the province of BC, the Rogers Wireless stores are all personally owned franchises, that the Rogers Corporation is trying to take as many of the sales of the phones as possible before allowing it's franchisees to start selling the new platform. They must have figured that there is enough demand that they can stand to make a tidy profit during the first 2 weeks after launch before enabling THEIR OWN FRANCHISEES to get some of that business. Online, you can get the Focus for $199.99 with a 3 year contract. The guy I spoke to said if I was willing to wait the 2 weeks and get it from him, I could get it for $99.99 on the same 3 year contract. Meaning they make AT LEAST $100 on every phone sold, and the Rogers Corporation is trying to keep as much of that for themselves as possible.

That's just freaking PATHETIC... on so many levels. So I can't get my hands on a device (not that I need to, I know I want the Focus badly enough), and it prevents the 'everyday' consumer from getting first-hand experience with the platform. Rogers is basically not helping the platform to flourish. And how does it make sense to not get the platform out to your own franchisees? They're the ones that promote your offerings, and YOUR PLANS WHERE YOU MAKE MOST OF YOUR MONEY!!! I can't believe how stupid they're being. Yes, I understand basic business practices in order to increase revenue, but they're limiting themselves...

Even with all that said, I'm still getting a Focus... just extremely ****ed at their tactics here.

r1zzah, if you are getting it for $99 let me know... i am also in surrey...

neoxphuse said,

r1zzah, if you are getting it for $99 let me know... i am also in surrey...

Ok, PM me your e-mail address or some way for me to get in touch with you, and when I get the call that they have it in stock, I'll let you know.

the samsung omnia 2 is the worst phone out there, actually all the omnia series are terrible. its just a no comment. Dont really care much about the WP7. got the iphone soo...not going to downgrade anytime soon.

buckboii said,
the samsung omnia 2 is the worst phone out there, actually all the omnia series are terrible. its just a no comment. Dont really care much about the WP7. got the iphone soo...not going to downgrade anytime soon.

Hmmm...you got the iPhone, which means you have already downgraded...

Goldenlotus said,

Hmmm...you got the iPhone, which means you have already downgraded...

Consort both phones side by side than talk.
psh, downgrade LOL.

neoxphuse said,
Rogers.com/focus

U can now order online only.

Which means Rogers wasn't ready for the launch and hadn't gotten the stock to their stores I guess... Sounds like a mess up up there, which is definitely a shame.

Just phoned rogers, they told me to call back in about a week or so as well. this is looking to be a bad launch for sure, hopefully they can get some good about of stock in.

dotf said,
I cannot find a WP7 device of any sort in Regina Saskatchewan, Canada.

none in victoria, BC (the capital of BC) .. awesome

DClark said,
Neither in Moose Jaw ha!

Good to know. I live in MJ but work in Regina. Glad I won't be wasting after work hours hunting down something that doesn't exist.

Not a big surprise considering that my brother went into AT&T in his local store (in a small-ish town) and they literally had two Samsung Focus phones, and two HTC Surround phones.

He, and his brother-in-law both picked up the two Samsung Focus phones (loves it so far), but no one was there to pick up the HTC Surround (why, HTC, why?!).

I haven't been able to find any places with WP7 devices in stock where I live in the US. Granted, I don't live in a big town, but 80k (200k+ in the general area) isn't tiny either...

That's ok more Androids & iPhones for Canada.
Steven Ballmer is probably wondering if they actually use cell phones up north in the frozen tundra of Canada. I'm sure new Zealand will get more WP7 devices than Canada.

xpablo said,
That's ok more Androids & iPhones for Canada.
Steven Ballmer is probably wondering if they actually use cell phones up north in the frozen tundra of Canada. I'm sure new Zealand will get more WP7 devices than Canada.

It's got nothing to do with MS or Ballmer. It's our big 3 controlling everything.

ahhell said,

It's got nothing to do with MS or Ballmer. It's our big 3 controlling everything.

Exactly, the carriers are the ones who place the orders directly to the OEMs, not to MS, and it's not MS shipping out the phones it's HTC,LG,Samsung etc. If there's not enough supply it's not MS's fault if Rogers or Bell or whoever didn't order enough, or if HTC or LG didn't make enough.

GP007 said,

Exactly, the carriers are the ones who place the orders directly to the OEMs, not to MS, and it's not MS shipping out the phones it's HTC,LG,Samsung etc. If there's not enough supply it's not MS's fault if Rogers or Bell or whoever didn't order enough, or if HTC or LG didn't make enough.

Exactly.

GP007 said,

Exactly, the carriers are the ones who place the orders directly to the OEMs, not to MS, and it's not MS shipping out the phones it's HTC,LG,Samsung etc. If there's not enough supply it's not MS's fault if Rogers or Bell or whoever didn't order enough, or if HTC or LG didn't make enough.

And so we have the Vista version of Windows Phone. Is an awesome platform and OS but again because of the OEM's, it gets a bad image and no one wants it. You gotta know Apple, Google & RIM are all gonna jump on that. Hopefully they can pull through this time. It would hurt them a lot more this time around than the actual Vista.

love how in the states the samsung focus (omnia 7) is 199 on a 2 year contract at at&t where as here it is 199 on a 3 YEAR CONTRACT at rogers. You can get a 2 year contract but then it jumps to 399. These companies suck.

Lachlan said,
love how in the states the samsung focus (omnia 7) is 199 on a 2 year contract at at&t where as here it is 199 on a 3 YEAR CONTRACT at rogers. You can get a 2 year contract but then it jumps to 399. These companies suck.

Canadian's really do get the shaft on cell phone prices, surprised your gov hasnt put a stop to it yet.

Lachlan said,
love how in the states the samsung focus (omnia 7) is 199 on a 2 year contract at at&t where as here it is 199 on a 3 YEAR CONTRACT at rogers. You can get a 2 year contract but then it jumps to 399. These companies suck.

Samsung Focus != Samsung Omnia 7

bdsams said,

Canadian's really do get the shaft on cell phone prices, surprised your gov hasnt put a stop to it yet.

Our government is the one that allowed this in the first place. They created the CRTC to profit them. So they actually encourage cellphone providers to use this practice.

Titoist said,

Our government is the one that allowed this in the first place. They created the CRTC to profit them. So they actually encourage cellphone providers to use this practice.

Unfortunately this is true.

Titoist said,

Our government is the one that allowed this in the first place. They created the CRTC to profit them. So they actually encourage cellphone providers to use this practice.

Well it is so only Canadian companies can own strategic resources such as telecommunications.. for some reason our government is pretty nervous about being invaded.. geeeeeze

Lachlan said,

Well it is so only Canadian companies can own strategic resources such as telecommunications.. for some reason our government is pretty nervous about being invaded.. geeeeeze

If that's their goal then they already failed. Wind and Bell are both heavy users of Huawei gear, the same Huawei that American companies are refusing to do business with at the urging of the US gov.

nope, not a big surprise. we get things like 6 months afterwards... totally retarded. oh well, from what i've heard from some rogers reps, the focus will be in late november.

Not a big surprise considering what our cell industry is like.
They are probably just thinking up new ways to **** us over.