Did Dell just confirm that all Windows 8 apps can run on Xbox One?

Microsoft has already hinted strongly that apps made for Windows 8 will be able to run on its upcoming Xbox One game console. However, the company has done nothing more than just hint at this kind of feature and has never talked about how app developers could get their creations published on the Xbox One. Now a pre-order page for the console on Dell's online store seems to confirm that Windows 8 apps will be able to run on the next-gen game machine.

The page itself, which shows that Dell's shipments of the Xbox One are sold out for now, also has a list of the console's features. Among them is "Windows 8" with a picture of a Windows Phone 8 device and what looks like Dell's own Latitude 10 tablet. The description reads:

Consider the game officially changed. With all your favorite Windows 8 apps able to be run on and synced to your Xbox One, now your phone, desktop, tablet and TV can all give you a unified web and entertainment experience.

The description also has a link to Dell's online tablet store, where the company is selling both Windows 8 and Android devices. Of course, this is coming from Dell and not from Microsoft so this information could be incorrect, or at least not 100 percent accurate. We have emailed Microsoft for comment.

Thanks to Ukumio for the tip!

Source: Dell | Image via Dell

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There's some real potential here with cross platform play. Apps that run on Windows 8 and Windows RT could easily be ported to Xbox One, using the controller and Kinect as input. Games could be made to be cross platform between Xbox and Windows 8 as well since the Xbox One uses basically off-the-shelf PC components now.

The technology is there, now is just up to Microsoft to not screw it up.

What I really want to know is why no one will show a photograph of the new Kinect base. It's always the same couple shot with the base missing like here. Is it some big secret? I just want to know if it will sit in the wall mount I have for my Xbox 360 Kinect.

Just give me the Xbox install disk so I can build my own custom PC/Xbox hardware. Wishful thinking on my part.

While that would be a cool idea, there's two major issues there. Allowing the software to become freely available would make it much easier to hack and break DRM. Also, they'd have to provide driver support and such for all combinations of components, creating a nightmare for compatibility. You'd basically just be at the point of creating your own PC. Might as well just use Windows 8 and have the rest of the functionality.

LightEco said,
Also, they'd have to provide driver support and such for all combinations of components, creating a nightmare for compatibility..

You'd likely just need a driver that supports Windows Vista/7/8/8.1...

I don't see how this will work. Win 8 apps are designed for touchscreens. They don't work well with remotes. I have win 8 as my htpc and some of the apps would have been good if they worked with a remote.

Not remotes. Kinect. A prime example is the Food & Drink app that has a "hands free" mode. You can flip between pages of recipes by using the built-in camera of your ultrabook / tablet / convertible, etc.

Antoine Prince said,
This pretty much tells us that digitally saved xbox games can be streamed on windows in the near future.

No, it really doesn't.

There's no way. All the exploits and virus problems possible on a desktop in a console? There's a reason I moved to console gaming in the first place, it was to have a dedicated gaming machine that will require no maintenance And is guaranteed to be able to play a game no matter what at any time.

Without PC peripheral compatibility or input methods, how useful could it be anyway?

Dude IE, iOS, Android, etc are supposed to be sandboxed, yet malware gets through. Get how exploits can exploit.

Geezy said,
Dude IE, iOS, Android, etc are supposed to be sandboxed, yet malware gets through. Get how exploits can exploit.

How much malware has gotten through the Windows Phone sandbox? How much malware has gotten through the sandbox on Windows 8?

You have to be totally bonkers to want to run a productivity software on a gaming console in your living room on your large screen TV. Consoles are for entertainment and taking a break from real word, not doing office work.

Yup! When the metro versions come out :-D... take that PS4... though I don't know anyone who would actually do productivity on their TV... I"m sure we'll get a lot of business people working hard and playing harder lol

its simple. take a win8 app, with the same codebase, change your xaml layout and a few changes to tv interface, add controller support. compile,done.

im pretty sure not all available apps will magically run, just need a few small tweaks and adding controller support.

vcfan said,
its simple. take a win8 app, with the same codebase, change your xaml layout and a few changes to tv interface, add controller support. compile,done.

im pretty sure not all available apps will magically run, just need a few small tweaks and adding controller support.

I think most will magically run.. they are mostly scrolling left to right apps.. just use the right thumb pad to control the right to left and the left to control the mouse/selection.. or you can just use your hand with kinect

most will sure, but the ones that don't makes me think devs can test their apps,and if the interface and default controls work,its an easy submission.

there are still a lot of apps that I just cant see working properly, unless there is a virtual mouse, but that would be kinda of a clunky solution,and im sure Microsoft would rather have proper input for these apps.

we'll see.

If you read the rest of their tablet stuff, I believe they mean that any apps run on the tablet will be able to be displayed on the Xbox, and that you maybe able to use the xbox to manipulate them while linked to the tablet. I think its just poorly written.

@mac said,
If you read the rest of their tablet stuff, I believe they mean that any apps run on the tablet will be able to be displayed on the Xbox, and that you maybe able to use the xbox to manipulate them while linked to the tablet. I think its just poorly written.

That's not what Microsoft has hinted at. What's likely coming is that pretty much any app created for Windows 8 will be able to be compiled as an app for Xbox One that can be used by itself on Xbox One.

spenser.d said,

That's not what Microsoft has hinted at. What's likely coming is that pretty much any app created for Windows 8 will be able to be compiled as an app for Xbox One that can be used by itself on Xbox One.

This was more or less indirectly confirmed on a VLC Kickstarter update comment. A user asked if they would make a XBox One version being that very little changes had to be made for it and the devs came back and pretty much gave a yes to it.

http://rjp.im/1i5X9fe

Ignore middle comment... Read bottom up.

Obviously I could be reading too much into it.

I think Microsoft has pretty much "confirmed" it already. They're probably figuring out logistics and likely some APIs that devs can use to easily get apps set up to run on X1 before officially announcing anything. I assume it'll really be up to the devs to make their apps compatible with X1.

It says "all your favorite apps", which could imply only popular apps like Facebook, instagram, etc. We will know soon enough

That is a marketing term by Microsoft. "All your favorite apps" describes Windows has all your favorite apps from Android and iOS and more.

Everyone has different favs, so they can't say that without all the apps being available. Otherwise they'd use "popular apps" instead.

(Did legal copywriting for marketers before)

If you could live stream the xbox screen to a Windows 8 PC, that would be awesome! Microsoft just needs to be able to share all screens with all devices and all apps with all devices.

Like viewing Xbox on Windows Phone, Windows Phone on Xbox, PC on Xbox, Xbox on PC, PC to PC. Windows Phone to Windows Phone, PC to windows phone etc.

Or give us the ability to use mouse & Keyboard in FPS. I have't played a FPS on my 360 since I got it in 2008. I just hate using pads for FPS game.

wetworker said,
Or give us the ability to use mouse & Keyboard in FPS. I have't played a FPS on my 360 since I got it in 2008. I just hate using pads for FPS game.

if windows 8 apps work on Xbox One then Im guessing that Xbox games will be able to play on Windows 8.1 .. then you can use your mouse

wetworker said,
Or give us the ability to use mouse & Keyboard in FPS. I have't played a FPS on my 360 since I got it in 2008. I just hate using pads for FPS game.

Oh like already? Where with halo, if your enemies had a keyboard/mouse and you're on a joypad... you stand absolutely no chance!

Go ahead dude, break Console FPS gaming, because not everyone having a keyboard/mouse.

Josh_LosAltosHills said,
I guess this would be a big deal if the app store you know had apps.

100,000+ apps for Xbox One. How many apps does the PS4 have?

Josh_LosAltosHills said,
I guess this would be a big deal if the app store you know had apps.

have fun with those 500,000 gingerbread 2.3 android apps for google TV that were made for smartphones.. Atleast the windows apps are designed for 1080p tablets

/s

laserfloyd said,

Welcome to 2 years ago.


To be honest, the windows 8 store app for browsing for apps is probably the worst I've ever seen or had to use. It's very restrictive with little in the way of being able to drill down into certain groups or finding apps by type.

It could do with a big revamp to make finding new apps more appealing. Right now, it feels like there is only about 50 apps on the store, heh.

The Win8.1 Store is completely revamped and much better.. but it can definitely still use more better sorting and finding features to make it a proper store front like the Microsoft Store / Amazon / ebay / etc.

rfirth said,
If so, we need an Xbox One simulator added to the SDK...

MS already said development for the X1 will be open to all - you won't get an emulator, but you can unlock your X1 to develop on it.

spudtrooper said,

MS already said development for the X1 will be open to all - you won't get an emulator, but you can unlock your X1 to develop on it.

Well, I'm not buying $499 hardware to test app compatibility, and you won't see many of those 100,000 other Windows 8 apps tested either.

Just need something to emulate Xbox controller events firing. That could easily be added to the Windows 8 simulator in a side panel.

The only issue is that most apps "some games support Xbox controller" currently are not made with input for controllers or Kinect, but smartglass could definitely work!

I don't know why they theoretically couldn't... they are all using the same framework .NET, JavaScript, HTML5, XAML etc... both running the windows core, and a similar if not the same "Start" / dashboard... and no cross architecture needed since it is running x86-64.. even if they didn't at launch, I could see MS adding some app support in from the app store

neufuse said,
I don't know why they theoretically couldn't... they are all using the same framework .NET, JavaScript, HTML5, XAML etc... both running the windows core, and a similar if not the same "Start" / dashboard... and no cross architecture needed since it is running x86-64.. even if they didn't at launch, I could see MS adding some app support in from the app store

And at that there's the IL anyways so no need to recompile

The problem is not technical. It's all about what input devices are available. If you have to build an Xbox version of your app, you can use all the same code except the UI layer. That means you'll be thinking of the Xbox user experience while you're doing it. If it's some kind of hack to make the controller act like a touch screen or mouse, it's going to end up pretty lame in many cases.

Since every Xbox One will come with Kinect, just use that like a touch interface. They could easily adapt the controls to fit most apps.

Torolol said,
which also means some malware designed for Win 8, might also works on XBone,
Praise the Lord.

WinRT malware? Windows RT doesn't have a malware problem.

Torolol said,
which also means some malware designed for Win 8, might also works on XBone,
Praise the Lord.

Are you effing me..whatever happened to Sony bricking their own console when doing updates?

Because a gaming console with a controller instead of a touchscreen, is just as useful as a tablet with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard and mouse.

Sorry, Microsoft seem to have totally lost the plot, in some ridiculous, idealistic notion that they can run 1 operating system across every platform.

dvb2000 said,
Because a gaming console with a controller instead of a touchscreen, is just as useful as a tablet with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard and mouse.

Sorry, Microsoft seem to have totally lost the plot, in some ridiculous, idealistic notion that they can run 1 operating system across every platform.

What?

dvb2000 said,
Because a gaming console with a controller instead of a touchscreen, is just as useful as a tablet with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard and mouse.

Sorry, Microsoft seem to have totally lost the plot, in some ridiculous, idealistic notion that they can run 1 operating system across every platform.

Xbox one comes with Kinect. You don't need a touch screen with that.

Personally, I think we'll probably see RT apps on the xbox, but I feel people are going to be disappointed if they're expecting to be able to 'sync' their apps across from the xbox and windows 8 PC, even with the same account this is Microsoft we're talking about and you'll have to buy the same apps twice (or more) for each hardware platform.

They're unifying the store across all platforms (win 8, RT, windows phone, and xb1), and they increased the device limit from 5 to 81, so that should solve the problem of having to repurchase an app across new devices.

sagum said,

Personally, I think we'll probably see RT apps on the xbox, but I feel people are going to be disappointed if they're expecting to be able to 'sync' their apps across from the xbox and windows 8 PC, even with the same account this is Microsoft we're talking about and you'll have to buy the same apps twice (or more) for each hardware platform.
First off, I don't think the XBone is running an ARM CPU, so you will not see any "RT" apps. You will see metro/modern UI apps, the same ones that are in Windows 8. Second, if they're running Windows 8 apps, that means they're installed through the Windows Store, so the chances of having to buy a Windows app twice I think is very slim. They just made an announcement not too long ago that apps purchased through the Windows store can be installed on like 100 devices I think it was. Now, running XBone games on a PC, that's a whole different story. Unless the game is sold through the Windows store any PC "port" will be a desktop app, and that means that it'll have to be purchased again through Steam or Origin or whatever.

RT isn't exactly the same as PPC. I think RT is the closest thing to x86, especially when it's coming from MSFT developers.

Whatever happened to being able to migrate Apps between OS X and iOS thanks to Xcode? It's because they were similar, even if the instructions were different.

This "Xbone" s*** is annoying.

Darrian said,
First off, I don't think the XBone is running an ARM CPU, so you will not see any "RT" apps. You will see metro/modern UI apps, the same ones that are in Windows 8. Second, if they're running Windows 8 apps, that means they're installed through the Windows Store, so the chances of having to buy a Windows app twice I think is very slim. They just made an announcement not too long ago that apps purchased through the Windows store can be installed on like 100 devices I think it was. Now, running XBone games on a PC, that's a whole different story. Unless the game is sold through the Windows store any PC "port" will be a desktop app, and that means that it'll have to be purchased again through Steam or Origin or whatever.


I really do hope that I'm wrong. I'd love to have a buy once use anywhere from Microsoft. However, so far with my Windows Phone and Windows 8 experience it's been far from it, and that even extends to the existing XBOX 360.

See, Microsoft from the start changed it's branding to 'xbox', so we have xbox music, xbox arcade games and for the longest time we've had a Microsoft account (formally all the rest, including Hotmail, Live etc). In that time we've had a Xbox gamer tag linked to it, and as such our achievements also linked to said account... and this predates Windows 8's apps. This is Games for Windows Live, and the Xbox Live games.

Now, you'd think if you buy a XBOX Game, on your Microsoft account, you'd get to play that game that's on your account, with the same achievement name, and achievements on any Microsoft platform you sign into.
Unfortunately this is not the case, and hasn't been for as long as there have been multiple of the same game across the platforms under Microsoft's own name and more recently 'xbox' unified branding.

So it's quite possible to buy the same game on Windows Phone, then have to buy the same game on the xbox, and then again buy the same game on Windows 8. I see no reason why Microsoft would change that 'buy again' methodology simply because it's latest console can run Apps too.

If, like you say, we can buy it on Windows 8 and use them on the Xbox1, then that'll be great, but I have to ask why haven't Microsoft put the effort in to creating a linked system for Apps and games that already exist on their marketplace, to ensure consumer confidence in a unified store ?

Also, to make matters worse, recently Microsoft delisted a load of xbox games from Windows Phone users, so we can't get to re-install them if we need to, while at the same time they're still listed on the Windows 8 store... to buy.

Honestly with Microsoft's app purchase history like it is, do you really expect me to have any kind of hopes of not having to re-buy them?


Before you jump in and tell me about different hardware components, I understand that, but it goes along way to insure consumer confidence by linking titles for a buy once appearance.
Not only that, if you look at any other platform out there, iOS, android and even gaming services such as Steam, you buy once and you can use it across the platforms you can sign in to.

Darrian said,
First off, I don't think the XBone is running an ARM CPU, so you will not see any "RT" apps. You will see metro/modern UI apps, the same ones that are in Windows 8. Second, if they're running Windows 8 apps, that means they're installed through the Windows Store, so the chances of having to buy a Windows app twice I think is very slim. They just made an announcement not too long ago that apps purchased through the Windows store can be installed on like 100 devices I think it was. Now, running XBone games on a PC, that's a whole different story. Unless the game is sold through the Windows store any PC "port" will be a desktop app, and that means that it'll have to be purchased again through Steam or Origin or whatever.

WinRT isn't the same as Windows RT.

sagum said,

Xbox one comes with Kinect. You don't need a touch screen with that.

Personally, I think we'll probably see RT apps on the xbox, but I feel people are going to be disappointed if they're expecting to be able to 'sync' their apps across from the xbox and windows 8 PC, even with the same account this is Microsoft we're talking about and you'll have to buy the same apps twice (or more) for each hardware platform.

It already syncs using your live account, why wouldn't the xbox one sync? The hype is that everything is cloud enabled so whenever you login to any xbox connected to the internet anywhere it has access to any and all of your data..

MS isn't new to roaming profiles and cloud storage..

spudtrooper said,

It already syncs using your live account, why wouldn't the xbox one sync? The hype is that everything is cloud enabled so whenever you login to any xbox connected to the internet anywhere it has access to any and all of your data..

MS isn't new to roaming profiles and cloud storage..

You forgot about players being able to play with gold in the same house, even if only one of them have gold..and other features. There's a lot of features to take advantage of through Live.

Anthony Tosie said,

WinRT isn't the same as Windows RT.

You're right, I stand corrected. Well, ****, that's going to cause some confusion when shortening names.

sagum said,

I really do hope that I'm wrong...

Yeah, I noticed the WP8 games disappearing, but they're not in the same store. I may be wrong, and I guess none of us will really know until there is some official information put out there, but it seems to me that they are going to put the Windows 8 store on the XBone. What this means is that the XBone will be a console and a "PC," but it will be crippled like the Surface in that it won't have desktop apps. So any app you buy through the store will work on your PC, tablet, XBone, and if they do unify the Windows Phone Store and the Windows Store, then your phone. However, XBone games will probably not be sold through the same store, especially since they will still be primarily distributed with a physical disc. So while Windows apps will run on the XBone, XBone games won't run on Windows. But hell, I could be wrong about that, too, and then I won't have any reason whatsoever to buy a XBone.

I don't see it as being smart because you'd have a ton of stuff that wouldn't work well because it wasn't designed for the Xbox environment. That gives consumers a bad impression and explaining to them it wasn't designed for the Xbox won't help.

Doesn't the 360 already have a "metro" dashboard and apps like netflix and hulu? I don't know how similar it is to Windows 8, because I don't have one. However, I don't see why it would be any different, and while I don't have a lot of Windows 8 games, most if not all of the games I have purchased through Windows have 360 controller support. No, they won't be designed for the Xbox environment, they will be designed for the modern ui environment, which the 360 has migrated to and the XBone will have out of the box. As others have speculated, I agree that it will likely use Kinect to substitute not having a touchscreen.

Darrian said,
Doesn't the 360 already have a "metro" dashboard and apps like netflix and hulu? I don't know how similar it is to Windows 8, because I don't have one. However, I don't see why it would be any different, and while I don't have a lot of Windows 8 games, most if not all of the games I have purchased through Windows have 360 controller support. No, they won't be designed for the Xbox environment, they will be designed for the modern ui environment, which the 360 has migrated to and the XBone will have out of the box. As others have speculated, I agree that it will likely use Kinect to substitute not having a touchscreen.

Dude, we have services like Time Warner Cable, FiOS and Comast where we can watch TV right on our Xbox. We have Anime channels, ESPN, we have practically everything in the media. Forget Hulu and Netflix.