Did Microsoft just rip a logo from Transmit Mac software?

Did Microsoft rip the Transmit logo for use in Visio 2010? That's the question we're asking today.

Microsoft appears to have ripped and used a logo from popular Mac Software, Transmit 3. The creators of the logo, Panic Software, say they are "bemused" by the rip but have no plans for a lawsuit. Neowin spoke to Panic co-founder Cabel Sasser who confirmed the rip. "We're just constantly bemused at the number of times our truck gets, well, ripped off" he said in an email to Neowin.

Microsoft has included the logo in Visio 2010 as part of its inbuilt offering of shapes. The logo appears to have been stripped down of detail and vectorised to enable it to scale for diagrams within Visio. Neven Mrgan, designer at Panic, calls it a "full-on (and awful) trace of the Transmit icon."

The original Transmit icon was made over 10 years ago for Mac OS 7. When Mac OS 8 came out, the UI appearance had a lot more colour and shading, and icons could have alpha channels. So, Panic updated the logo too. The logo has seen several changes since 10 years ago but remains largely the same. It was originally drawn in Photoshop and the current version was created in Adobe Illustrator. All the icons were developed by The Iconfactory team.

This isn't the first time the famous truck has been ripped and used elsewhere. Panic have even set-up a page to mock the ripoffs they have witnessed over the years. According to Sasser there are over 300 more examples that aren't posted on that page. We asked Sasser if the company has ever taken action over the use of the logo. "For the most part, it's not worth it" he explained in an email. "Trying to hunt down the guys behind these sites, and make a stink, both isn’t our style and can be an incredibly frustrating waste of time. We do make an exception for particularly large, egregious rip-offs — whole site rip-offs, or giant uses of the icon, or rip-offs that might cause consumer confusion, always a key test of trademark law. In this case, we generally reach out to the site owner with that polite but strongly-worded e-mail, and 99% of the time it’ll been fixed."

One example that Sasser shared with us is from Rogers Canada:

Neowin contacted Microsoft for comment on the claims. “Microsoft respects IP. If parties have questions about trademarks or other issues, we encourage them to contact us through proper channels to address any concerns," said a Microsoft spokesperson.

In December 2009, Microsoft's MSN China was accused of ripping off and stealing content from Plurk, a social networking site. Microsoft later admitted the rip and suspended access to the Juku beta it had created. In early November 2009, blogger Rafael Rivera discovered that Microsoft illegally used GPLv2 code in a Windows 7 USB/DVD tool. Microsoft officials came clean and offered the tool for download alongside the tools source code.

What do you think? Blatant rip or sheer co-incidence? Vote in our poll (on the right) or leave a comment.

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Am I the only one who thinks this is a f*ckin' joke? It's a freakin truck logo! who cares?! Next we'll have MS stole some company's right arrow for next page icon....as if one right arrow can't possibly resemble another right arrow without being considered a complete ripoff.

It's the fact that a multi-billion dollar company, can't come up with originality.. they have the money to hire someone to sit at a desk and make icons.. yet they just seem to rip - or get inspired by - other peoples work..

I forgot to add Courrier tablet is announced after the iPad…. yet another thing they copied. THIEFS

Nonny said,
I forgot to add Courrier tablet is announced after the iPad…. yet another thing they copied. THIEFS

The Courier was announced? Really? Are you sure? Have a link to that press release?

Info on the Courier was leaked, which is nothing like an official announcement. But if you want to be picky, the Courier video leaks started back in September, with concepts going back to 2008 (I believe). The iPad didn't even have a name back then, kiddo.

But keep making false, off-topic assertions in Spamlish (I mean, really, typing like yours is usually trying to sell me male enhancement supplements).

Nonny said,
I forgot to add Courrier tablet is announced after the iPad…. yet another thing they copied. THIEFS

Err no, it wasn't. The Courier has been in development since (early?) last year or the year before. Apple seems to have hurried off to rush out this iPad of there's and forgot to add some additional ports, namely a USB port which I'm sure everyone uses as well as a proper display and a proper OS. Apart from the Courier, Tablet devices running Windows has been going on for more than 15 years. I think you need to check where you get your facts from.

DeMo_BR said,
Lol come on.. it's not that close to the original one, I don't see it as a rip off.

Yourr a dumass, they traced it like I did in elementray school. Poor independents Mac developers they probably live off Ramen noodles and they get ripped off by a company with billions of dollars like Micro$ucks, M$ should just pay them for the logo.

Nonny said,

Yourr a dumass, they traced it like I did in elementray school. Poor independents Mac developers they probably live off Ramen noodles and they get ripped off by a company with billions of dollars like Micro$ucks, M$ should just pay them for the logo.

Thanks for the laugh!

Nonny said,

Yourr a dumass, they traced it like I did in elementray school. Poor independents Mac developers they probably live off Ramen noodles and they get ripped off by a company with billions of dollars like Micro$ucks, M$ should just pay them for the logo.

Relax and check your spelling before hitting the post button. Use a PC. Its more reliable than a MAC and clever enough to correct your spelling automatically whenever you get mad. Call Microsoft to learn about their new evolutionary spelling checker system. Have a nice day!!!

That's a ****ing ripoff! Microsoft sucks so bad, they rip off every single thing ever. They ripped off the iPod, they ripped off the iPhone with Windows Mobile, ripped off Macintosh with the PC's they sell, ripped off Nintendo's Goldeneye by making Halo Combat Evolved, and I can list 100 things else. JEEZ Microsoft stop being such copy cats.

Nonny said,
That's a ****ing ripoff! Microsoft sucks so bad, they rip off every single thing ever. They ripped off the iPod, they ripped off the iPhone with Windows Mobile, ripped off Macintosh with the PC's they sell, ripped off Nintendo's Goldeneye by making Halo Combat Evolved, and I can list 100 things else. JEEZ Microsoft stop being such copy cats.
Is that some lame attempt to troll or is the meds?

Nonny said,
That's a ****ing ripoff! Microsoft sucks so bad, they rip off every single thing ever. They ripped off the iPod, they ripped off the iPhone with Windows Mobile, ripped off Macintosh with the PC's they sell, ripped off Nintendo's Goldeneye by making Halo Combat Evolved, and I can list 100 things else. JEEZ Microsoft stop being such copy cats.

So that makes iWork an Office ripoff, iPod a Creative/Diamond ripoff, Mac OS a Xerox ripoff (admitted by Steve Jobs himself), Goldeneye a Doom ripoff, and I can list "100 things else."

This game is fun! All I have to do is pick any product, name its predecessor or inspiration, and say it's a ripoff!

Hm... Though this is close color wise, looking at the page that Transmit set up seems to consider any picture of a truck to be a rip... I mean, some of those trucks are different colors, different orientation... Seems odd...

Wow, that's an embarrassingly terrible vector. There's no way that was done manually unless the person responsible didn't have much of an idea of what they were doing.
http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/visiotransmitlarge.jpg

It looks more like Microsoft just chucked the Transmit logo into Illustrator, hit 'auto-trace & expand' then just manipulated it to look slightly different.

Honestly, a black, gray, purple, lilas, orange and yellow truck... the choice of coulours is so unique I think they clearly copied it, then faded the colours away and changed the design of the truck a bit.

PsykX said,
Honestly, a black, gray, purple, lilas, orange and yellow truck... the choice of coulours is so unique I think they clearly copied it, then faded the colours away and changed the design of the truck a bit.

Honestly, http://www.iconfinder.net/search/?q=truck
You guys are making a huge deal out of nothing! Your telling me Microsoft went all out for a stupid little icon? I mean common.... lol this is beyond a joke! I'm sorry this is a low for Neowin :(

Neki Shem Samuel said,

Honestly, http://www.iconfinder.net/search/?q=truck
You guys are making a huge deal out of nothing! Your telling me Microsoft went all out for a stupid little icon? I mean common.... lol this is beyond a joke! I'm sorry this is a low for Neowin :(

I agree. It makes no sense for them to copy such a silly icon. And looking at their site (As I mentioned elsewhere in the comments), it seems like every truck icon is considered to be a rip by Transmit... Some of them use different colors and everything...

I dunno guys. An isometric rendering of a truck? Sounds like all of them copied SimCity 3000 if you ask me.

Can we get an opinion from Will Wright in here?

We seem to have a bunch of absolute ****ing morons here today what are half blind as well. Oh well, such has been the decline of Neowin over the last few years. Anything that gets posted here that isn't 100% pro-Microsoft gets bashed.

roadwarrior said,
We seem to have a bunch of absolute ****ing morons here today what are half blind as well. Oh well, such has been the decline of Neowin over the last few years. Anything that gets posted here that isn't 100% pro-Microsoft gets bashed.

Anything that is pro-Microsoft gets bashed by people like you anyways, or by Apple fans (there are plenty here, don't get fooled by the domain name, the forum even has an Apple section). Everything balances itself.

roadwarrior said,
We seem to have a bunch of absolute ****ing morons here today what are half blind as well. Oh well, such has been the decline of Neowin over the last few years. Anything that gets posted here that isn't 100% pro-Microsoft gets bashed.


Dude what are you talking about? Microsoft could find a cure for Aids and people will still find a reason to tell us they are pure evil! Neowin loves to bash MS. If i wanted sensational journalism I would read Gizmodo! Neowin seems to encourage anti MS troll!

Edited by Neki Shem Samuel, Mar 8 2010, 12:23am :

Neki Shem Samuel said,


Dude what are you talking about? Microsoft could find a cure for Aids and people will still find a reason to tell us they are pure evil! Neowin loves to bash MS. If i wanted sensational journalism I would read Gizmodo! Neowin seems to encourage anti MS troll!

Neowin is home to a lot of Microsoft bashing, to be sure, but it could be worse, you know.

It could be PCWorld.

It's certainly not a rip or it would look EXACTLY the same, whether it was created with their design in mind, quite possibly.

At least Panic aren't being arses, I can imagine some companies would have seen this as a great excuse to try and screw some money out of MS.

Me thinks it was a simple coincidence. A box truck is not something special, whoever designed this probably hasn't even seen the original sketch. A mere coincidence.

Billus said,
Me thinks it was a simple coincidence. A box truck is not something special, whoever designed this probably hasn't even seen the original sketch. A mere coincidence.
Have you ever seen a yellow truck with a blue-purple back on it? Especially the two hues that are near-identical here? Impossible that it's a coincidence.

Both are a typical box truck that has been caricatured in different ways. I see tons of them on the street, maybe they copied Transit as well?

OMG! Microsoft should be shut down for this!!

Copying an icon of a truck from some mac software... Who do they think they are!

Andre said,
Steve Jobs, 1996: "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"

lol well said. I think we are making a big deal out of nothing. Looks like a slow news day!

I can see some similarities-
However- if it is "scanned in" then how is the tire on the left truck turned to the left yet the tire on right truck is straight. Would not both be turning left?

MS may or may not have ripped off a copyrighted logo for their own use, but if they did, it's obviously been changed enough that it's not a violation of copyright or trademark laws.

So no harm, no foul.

Besides, even if somehow it's still in violation of the law, that's just business as usual for MS.

To be honest, it looks to have been traced from something, but not the transmit truck.
It's not at the same angle, just analyze the two trailers. This is not something you can just tell a vectorizing program to do ("oh, and turn this 2D image of a truck as if it was 3D and trace it"). If you could, Microsoft would be selling CSI technology.
Wheels aren't even the same.
I would not consider this an intentional copy. They probably both come from the same stock photograph, but the designer decided to draw the Visio one a different way before tracing it.

wow, you're kidding me, right?

What's with all the sensational headlines in the tech blogs these last few weeks. sheesh!

majg said,
wow, you're kidding me, right?

What's with all the sensational headlines in the tech blogs these last few weeks. sheesh!

More views = More $

That's all it matters.

Edited by Wanderermy, Mar 7 2010, 7:13pm :

Their icon has to be one of the most ripped icon ever lol, they even have a page on their site to show all the known rips of their icon

A truck is a truck. Microsoft has too much dosh and icon designing talent to bother ripping anything off.

s3n4te said,
I think Transmit ripped of Microsoft's logo.

Do you think they have a time machine? Transmit has been using variations of that truck for a decade now.

If you notice, the front wheel of Microsoft icon is straight while the front wheel of Mac is turning left.

satus said,
If you notice, the front wheel of Microsoft icon is straight while the front wheel of Mac is turning left.

Read pjw's comment just above yours.

It's a truck guys, how many different ways can you draw a TRUCK? It looks similar, possibly a trace, but whose the say that "original" logo wasn't based off a more simple version.

All I can say is look at the front driver side tire. Notice the "Flat" spot in the round tire, thats because the rotated the tire to straighten it, without actually adjusting it. They literally took the image, did some effects, and called it there own. While I dont think anyone should be able to claim ownership of the image of a common truck, Its still funny to see how lazy devs are. After tall, this isn't a MS conspiracy, It was just one of the Visio Devs was to lazy to create 100's of new icons from scratch.

qdave said,
I dont see it being a big deal at all.

People who rip off others must not be a big deal to you, then.

It probably wasn't an MS conspiracy, but it was probably a lazy artist trying to meet a quota.

Edited by Shadrack, Mar 7 2010, 4:22pm :

Simon said,
Can't believe there are people who don't see the similarities :P

I know! All the proportions are the EXACT SAME. The angle of the truck is the EXACT SAME. The colors are the EXACT SAME.

Simon said,
Can't believe there are people who don't see the similarities :P

I'm not surprised. There are a whole lot of clueless morons around here lately, especially those who will go out of their way to defend anything and everything Microsoft does, while condemning any other company.

Shadrack said,

I know! All the proportions are the EXACT SAME. The angle of the truck is the EXACT SAME. The colors are the EXACT SAME.

While I am not arguring if they did infact steal it... I'm pretty sure if you load the image up in photoshop and sample the colors.. actually you can see that they are not with your own eyes... they are not Exactly the same, nor is the angle.

Edited by xendrome, Mar 7 2010, 6:41pm :

xendrome said,

While I am not arguring if they did infact steal it... I'm pretty sure if you load the image up in photoshop and sample the colors.. actually you can see that they are not with your own eyes... they are not Exactly the same, nor is the angle.

Exactly. And, the front tires are straight in the Microsoft one, turned in the Transmit one... There are other differences as well...

Wow its a truck.

You know what they could have done, rotate it 180 degrees.. that way its gotta be different

Haha come on, seriously?

dave164 said,
Wow its a truck.

You know what they could have done, rotate it 180 degrees.. that way its gotta be different

Haha come on, seriously?

Nope, trucks at different angles are still considered "rip offs" by Transmit (Take a look at their "Rip Off's Page: http://www.panic.com/extras/ripoff/). It is also considered a rip off if you draw a truck using different colors apparently... LOL

One wonders how Microsoft would react if it were their own graphic someone were ripping off... On one of those Cheezeburger Network sites there is an image of some billboard in another country that has very clearly stolen the Windows XP flag and manipulated it.

As Panic says, it would be an "incredibly frustrating waste of time" to try to go after all of the offenders, so things like this aren't perused often.

Actually, I'm more offended that they put a totally crappy render like that in Visio. Were I a Visio user, I would never put that graphic into my document because it is so poorly done.

SakuraKira said,
One wonders how Microsoft would react if it were their own graphic someone were ripping off... On one of those Cheezeburger Network sites there is an image of some billboard in another country that has very clearly stolen the Windows XP flag and manipulated it.

As Panic says, it would be an "incredibly frustrating waste of time" to try to go after all of the offenders, so things like this aren't perused often.

Actually, I'm more offended that they put a totally crappy render like that in Visio. Were I a Visio user, I would never put that graphic into my document because it is so poorly done.

There are 1,000s of examples just like you give, and yep, Microsoft doesn't say anything about them.

Even look at the Google's Chrome Logo, it is a Round Version of the Windows Logo morphed, as even admitted by designers at Google. If Microsoft created a site to call out all RipOffs how many 1,000s of web pages would be devoted to just keeping track of them.

Heck even non-art IP is abused over and over again, look at OS X or Linux and you will see spellcheck squiggle lines and the ability to drag and drop text and select and modify UI concepts that were all created by the MS Word team and MS does own them, yet I haven't seen Microsoft even cry foul as the concepts help users and the industry as a whole.

Besides, the artwork in this story is too common and too generic as there are 100s of images that look similar in PD clipart stock.

thenetavenger said,

Besides, the artwork in this story is too common and too generic as there are 100s of images that look similar in PD clipart stock.

And you'd probably find that most of those were copied from Panic's Transmit icon in the first place.

sinkevicius said,
nope... it's very hard to create something new. I think this is only coincidence.

It's only a coincidence if you ignore the various posts in this thread which clearly show how this is a text-book vector trace.

geoken said,

It's only a coincidence if you ignore the various posts in this thread which clearly believe this is a text-book vector trace.

Fixed it for you...

Oh come on ... it's even more generic than this one:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7541/transmitbu2.png

And another one:
http://rtms-sa.org/images/truck_icon.png

Or:
http://www.charpiellc.com/images/uploads/Entry_Cargo_Truck.jpg

It's more likely they bought the icon from an icon provider such as:
http://www.iconshock.com/icon-sets/real-vista-transportation-icons.html
And that goes for the Transmit logo too!

-= Maarten =-

aafvstam said,

And that goes for the Transmit logo too!

I guess you didn't read the part of the article where they mentioned that Panic has been using this icon (various versions of it) for about a decade now, and they had it designed for them.

roadwarrior said,

I guess you didn't read the part of the article where they mentioned that Panic has been using this icon (various versions of it) for about a decade now, and they had it designed for them.

I missed that, thanks for emphasizing that, it exactly shows my point. Companies like this (MS, Panic and others) usually buy their artwork through checked designers -just- to avoid these discussions.

-= Maarten =-

Chester0 said,
Its a... truck

Many different brands and logos use real life objects or examples to base their designs off of. The difference though is that when designing it, artists use their own proportions, dimensions, colors, perspective, graphic elements, and so on.

So while Transmit's icon is indeed a truck, it has its own bearing as a trademark of Panic Inc because of those exact visual characteristics that one can immediately identify of as the Transmit application and logo.

A similar example one could make is the explorer icon: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Windows_Explorer_Icon.png

One could say that "it's just a monitor and computer" if someone takes the same image and traces it almost exactly with similar visual elements, right?

Anyhow, it's clear that this image wasn't fully hand drawn by Microsoft: http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/visiotransmitlarge.jpg

Edited by giga, Mar 7 2010, 2:52pm :

Chester0 said,
Its a... truck

So by that logic, if I used an image of a partially eaten piece of fruit as my logo, Apple won't throw a tantrum?

Joey H said,

So by that logic, if I used an image of a partially eaten piece of fruit as my logo, Apple won't throw a tantrum?


Exactly, "it's just a golden M", Mc Donalds would be pissed about it. Companies create these things as their icon that users can immediately recognise.

Unlike Apple, Microsoft lacks artistic talent and thus were forced to steal one of the god damn cutest truck vectors ever created.

Skullpture said,
Unlike Apple, Microsoft lacks artistic talent and thus were forced to steal one of the god damn cutest truck vectors ever created.

*LOL Please, sir, google "Dieter Rams"!

This icon is very unlikely created by Microsoft but by a design agancy. They worked with Iconfactory before so it wouldn't shock me if both designs come from the same designer working for both companies.

tiadimundo said,

*LOL Please, sir, google "Dieter Rams"!

This icon is very unlikely created by Microsoft but by a design agancy. They worked with Iconfactory before so it wouldn't shock me if both designs come from the same designer working for both companies.


They already cleared the possibility of that up, Panic themselves created the icon: https://twitter.com/nevenmrgan/status/9894777954

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8945/trucks.jpg

I'm not going to guess whether this is a "rip" or not, but there are serious problems with this image that show it wasn't drawn by hand. You can see a bit of them on Neowin's image, but I have taken that, zoomed in, and circled the worst parts.

SakuraKira said,
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8945/trucks.jpg

I'm not going to guess whether this is a "rip" or not, but there are serious problems with this image that show it wasn't drawn by hand. You can see a bit of them on Neowin's image, but I have taken that, zoomed in, and circled the worst parts.


Yeah it's worse than that. Here's a better view:

http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/visiotransmitlarge.jpg

SakuraKira said,
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8945/trucks.jpg

I'm not going to guess whether this is a "rip" or not, but there are serious problems with this image that show it wasn't drawn by hand. You can see a bit of them on Neowin's image, but I have taken that, zoomed in, and circled the worst parts.

Now c'mon we can't blame Microsoft! maybe it was a quick thing lol

I think Panic took a generic looking truck icon and dressed it up and now any time anyone uses a similar truck icon they say this. This isn't the first time Panic have cried about this and it likely won't be the last. I'm a big fan of Panic software (and Transmit owner) but this is a little tedious.

bob_c_b said,
I think Panic took a generic looking truck icon and dressed it up and now any time anyone uses a similar truck icon they say this. This isn't the first time Panic have cried about this and it likely won't be the last. I'm a big fan of Panic software (and Transmit owner) but this is a little tedious.

'Tedious' would be them throwing a hissy-fit over it and trying to settle with Microsoft in court. They aren't doing that, which is respectable.

bob_c_b said,
This isn't the first time Panic have cried about this and it likely won't be the last. I'm a big fan of Panic software (and Transmit owner) but this is a little tedious.

They don't really cry about it, in fact, they have a good laugh about it most of the time. Here's a quote from the page mentioned in the article:

So, yeah, it's really not that big of a deal. Nonetheless, it's both funny and fascinating, or "funscinating", to see all of the exotic places where the good old Transmit icon â€" and other assorted chunks of Panicalia â€" wind up on the Internets! We've been collecting these various "surprises" over the years, most sent in by loyal (and cool) customers, and we thought it would be fun to collect them in one place. Where will our icons and things wind up next? Keep an eye on the Rip Off Express!

http://panic.com/extras/ripoff

If people only copied their icon every once in a while, it would hardly be mentioned, but look at that page, there are dozens of instances of people copying their icons and other things (such as page layout).

what said,

'Tedious' would be them throwing a hissy-fit over it and trying to settle with Microsoft in court. They aren't doing that, which is respectable.

No, tedious is using modifying a generic image and then pointing out any other use of that generic image as some kind of infringement.

bob_c_b said,

No, tedious is using modifying a generic image and then pointing out any other use of that generic image as some kind of infringement.


Not really. If they were the first to use that image as part of their identity, then they're well within their rights to defend their copyright to it. It's how the system works. Apple uses a picture of a half-eaten apple, Microsoft uses a flag... any logo can be considered to be a generic image.

bob_c_b said,

No, tedious is using modifying a generic image and then pointing out any other use of that generic image as some kind of infringement.


Except you are missing the fact that this image was orignally created for their app, and has been developed over the last DECADE. This isn't some generic clip art we are talking about here.

bob_c_b said,
I think Panic took a generic looking truck icon and dressed it up and now any time anyone uses a similar truck icon they say this. This isn't the first time Panic have cried about this and it likely won't be the last. I'm a big fan of Panic software (and Transmit owner) but this is a little tedious.

http://panic.com/extras/ripoff/images/ripoffs/rip02-spot.jpg /facepalm
That's a rip off according to them.

Zer0day said,

http://panic.com/extras/ripoff/images/ripoffs/rip02-spot.jpg /facepalm
That's a rip off according to them.

You know, I agree! That's not a rip-off at all. I removed it from the page.

(Since we posted that page, we've collected over 300 more rips, and our "test" these days for what feels to close to us is a lot more stringent.)

Whatever it is it's made my dull boring and slow Sunday so much more interesting.

I agree with the generic notion, it's a default clip are truck, just Google pics trucks, they are plentiful.

If you bothered to read it equally attentively, you'd notice Panic themselves aren't bothered about it: http://i49.tinypic.com/eun0bm.jpg

http://panic.com/extras/ripoff/

Edited by Cobra, Mar 7 2010, 4:11pm :

Well the designer of those kinds of trucks should be complaining as Transmit borrowed it from them :)

If you are going to use an object which is common, when others use it for other reasons, it is going to be an issue.

thealexweb said,
it's quite different.

Not for a trace it isn't. Detail has been removed that's all and some really tiny things edited. You can tell it's a vector trace by looking at how the software that scanned it screwed up the front grill.

Edited by tomwarren, Mar 7 2010, 1:01pm :

Tom W said,

Not for a trace it isn't. Detail has been removed that all and some really tiny things edited. You can tell it's a vector trace by looking at how the software that scanned it screwed up the front grill.

Totally Agree man!

Tom W said,

Not for a trace it isn't. Detail has been removed that's all and some really tiny things edited. You can tell it's a vector trace by looking at how the software that scanned it screwed up the front grill.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2172/2365167051_bb2e044365.jpg

Edited by Prince Charming, Mar 7 2010, 1:28pm :

thealexweb said,
it's quite different.

Its rip off but who cares its just a small logo...
wait did apple build their logo using visio?

Edited by still1, Mar 7 2010, 5:56pm :

Tom W said,

Not for a trace it isn't. Detail has been removed that's all and some really tiny things edited. You can tell it's a vector trace by looking at how the software that scanned it screwed up the front grill.

The front wheels are straight and not turning towards the left.

jesseinsf said,

The front wheels are straight and not turning towards the left.

Good point. Not to mention "WHY would Microsoft copy such a silly icon?"

Tom W said,

Not for a trace it isn't. Detail has been removed that's all and some really tiny things edited. You can tell it's a vector trace by looking at how the software that scanned it screwed up the front grill.

Yeah, you actually have a point as for the grill. I thought it was just a coincidence first, but that does look suspicious. As if some vertex was lost in the conversion process since the grill has the parallel lines drawn too closely.

Edited by Northgrove, Mar 8 2010, 11:17am :