Editorial

Dirty Confession: Switched to OS X, but still love Windows (and why Neowin matters)

Coke, or Pepsi; Firefox, Chrome or IE? Even Opera. Maybe? Nintendo, Xbox 360, or PS3; Android, WP7 or iOS; Windows, or Mac OS X?

The discussion NEVER ends. On forums, on Twitter, on Facebook -- even on blogs and in basements -- people always have an opinion, and this opinion supercedes the opinions of the dissenting party. What happens when one makes the switch? Is it the end of the world? Does their allegiance change faster than their underwear; does the world end; does anyone really care?

In 2008, I purchased a Macbook Pro. Back then, coming from a Windows and Linux background, OS X was probably the coolest operating system I'd ever used. The dock was foreign and magical, the Menu bar that never leaves and changes based on what window you have focused... whoa! Don't even get me started on Expose and Dashboard and all the pretty things -- it was like falling down a rabbit hole.

In January of 2010, things changed. I installed Windows 7.

If you've ever experienced heaven behind a keyboard (and no, not the same kind of heaven that a certain section of the web promotes), then you'll know what I'm talking about. Glass! Blue! Speed! Superbar? Yes please! Aero peek? OH MAN! 

  

Yeah I'm easy to please. Sue me.

Windows on a Macbook Pro opened up a whole new world to me that I'd never even realized existed. Yes, Valve released Steam for Mac OS X but at the time, (and to an extent, still) titles ran terribly; TF2 and Half Life 2 were a chore, Grand Theft Auto 4 wasn't even an option and for a casual gamer like me, it wasn't worth the headache. With my Windows 7 install, all of these games opened my eyes to a past-time I'd mostly ignored. This was around the same time that I joined the staff team here, and playing with members and staff helped foster a sense of community and pride that there was a group of people that shared similar interests that I could just switch off when I was bored. Online communities are interesting, you develop real friendships and the like, and the connections can be quite real, but at the same time, things that bother you are only a mouse-click away from not existing.

You're probably wondering when a point to this editorial will arise, well, it's coming, don't you worry.

Windows 7 was an eye-opener. The glitz, the hype, the glam and the execution of OS X are all beautiful but it left me wanting more. Turns out I wanted to game, I wanted to be part of the community and I wanted to see what all the Windows hype was about. The operating system from Microsoft lived up to it's reputation, to it's hype. It really was "my idea," and Microsoft made it happen. The only niggle I had for the first 6 months of Windows 7 usage is that the Ctrl and CMD buttons are swapped for shortcut keys, in OS X it's CMD + Everything, in Windows it's Ctrl. Small difference... That and the lack of a button to right click. In Windows you need to right click, otherwise it's like living in a world with no thumbs. But I got the hang of it.

I'm impulsive. I'm all or nothing. Bootcamp? Ha! What's that? Yeah... I made a change again. I switched to Ubuntu. That lasted about a week. Turns out nobody makes iPhone jailbreak tools for Linux. When you trade your Desire for a locked iPhone 3GS (What! I missed Facebook chat), it's kind of a necessity.

So I threw on OS X. And I was blown away again. 

My IRC client shows media INSIDE so I don't have to blindly click links, Expose organizes my windows so I can SEE where everything is, and I feel an entirely new sense of vigour and productivity.

But... But... How can this be? The rest of the internet has led you to believe that it's all or nothing, one VS all, the epic battle between good and evil.

In reality. It's an operating system. They all do the same thing, they can all accomplish the same tasks in various ways and to varying degrees, so really, it doesn't matter. Discuss, flame, argue, whatever to your hearts content, but in this day and age there are so many viable options for doing just about anything that it's all up to you.

One company's profits don't directly affect your life. Pick your side, pick both sides, pick no sides. Just be part of the community. Neowin is yours, Neowin is mine, Neowin is the web's. I need you, you need me and we all need the community.

Google recently celebrated their 10 year anniversary of AdWords and asked their partners to express what AdWords meant to them. We followed in a similar vein and got some great insight into what Neowin means to you. 

      

We love you too! We ain't the biggest, but we're the best, most enthusiastic and fun community around. You guys own.

This season, do yourself a favour. Find out how the other side lives, this way you'll have a window into the mind of your peers and you'll know just why they're so passionate about the tech that they love and enjoy. As for me? I'm probably buying a WP7 phone next, and I KNOW I'll own an iPhone 5 -- and right now, my copy of Windows 7 is sitting pretty on the shelf until I get the next urge to meet up with my secret mistress from Microsoft. I get flamed in the comments, just like all of our writers, about fanboyism, picking sides and being unreasonable. But to be honest, we're just like you. We all have our preferences and we do our best to make sure that everything is clear, fun and informative for you, the reader. I love tech, doesn't matter from who, or from where, just tech. And you should too.

So lay down your weapons, gather around the tree... And in the words of one of our wise writers: All anybody needs is Kinect, eggnog and their friends.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

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I recently bought a Mac Mini, however I still run WIndows 7 in Boot Camp Mode due 2 an incompatibility with my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE USB Modem Device. I used 2 be in the PC Only Club where my favorite thing 2 run was Open Source Linux Ubuntu, but now I like my Mac OSX Snow Leopard a whole lot better than both Windows, and Linux combined. I Can't wait until Verizon Updates VZAM 4 Mac!

i have been using microsoft operating system product since ms-dos 3.30. right now on windows 7. i bought my macbook unibody the year before and my iphone 3gs last years and loved both of them.

a quick observation. ms products are for curious mind who like to think out of the box. because you need to and can solve most of the issues you will encountered while using them. apple product provide a sandbox environment that is excellent for tasks approved by apple, but otherwise stifle curious minds.

don't agree? tell me how much percentage of apple users who know how to do basic trouble shooting vs percentage of pc users who can assemble a screaming machine.

It's been a game of leap frog from the start, a game of "someone stole some aspect of something from us, a game of features that one had that the other didn't until the next version, a game of nyah nyah nyah, from a lot of the Apple folks, and a waiting game for us PC guys till we finally got the feature that the Mac guys were wagging their tongues about. Of course we can't wag our tongues about marketshare because that doesn't matter if it's something we are better at.

An endless Us VS Them, and it will never end. It's fun when two opposing views who actually know the facts go at it on this forum, and sad when those that speak up, get their heads chopped off because they didn't know something the other guy did.

I'm a PC and your a MAC, I'll be happy when your gone, and you'll be happy when I'm gone, which will be never for both of us, in our lifetimes. And then their are the ones who can actually see the light in both camps, good for you guys. Frankly I love the competition. It's fun. Bill VS Steve. Now how the hell can we both get rid of this Sergei guy and his buddy?
JF

Great read!
I'm a switcher myself - Windows to Mac OS X.
Been using Windows since 3.1, I've been once the biggest windows fanboy around, really, with all that pubescent hating on linux, os x (WHOAW "who uses apple? lololololz") etc...
Then sometime I became a fan of Apple, wanting one of their machines so much....
I saved up money for a good PC, for about 3 years I guess starting in 2003, I was 14 back then and yes, I saved about 95% of my monthly pocket money.
That went until I decided in 2006 to buy a shiny new iMac and I was blasted.

Personally? YES, I do prefer Mac OS X and whenever I have to option to chose to either get a program on Mac or Windows, I'll get the Mac version, granted I prefer it.
But still, I have Windows 7 running on my iMac, too.
It is the best Windows so far and I reaaaally like it!
So peace to the battlegrounds, lay down your swords and be cool about everyone chosing a camp or not.

Started to tinker with Linux again recently and I must say it has grown up quite a bit...
Remembering SuSe 7.x, HELL that was a mess.
It once effed up my whole computer. Ubuntu is what I'm trying now and it's rather nice, needs some modification and then it should be cool. I shall however try 10.04 LTS instead of 10.10 though, 10.10 seems buggy as creeps to me, at least on my end.

That all being said, you see, I like all sides, but I understand everyone "making a decision", because I've done so myself - running Mac OS X most of the time, whenever I can.
No need to be trolling, though. In the end, it's mostly about how you do it, instead of what you can do. Granted, each OS has some applications/kinds of applications/etc that you'll miss on other OS's, but well, see what fits YOU best.

Again, great article, putting the words right out of my mouth.

I own a MacBook Pro circa 2010 and a couple of Windows 7 notebooks and I have to say that I don't see any real advantage of or over the other.

I do find Windows 7 to be faster overall than my Mac, but otherwise I enjoy them both .

I don't see how some people are either all or nothing when it comes to these things.

bleah, osX is for kids...or, at least, for peoples they don't understand nothing about it and computers at all, it's a trend and nothing else, worked with a mac for a long time, so many bugs and trivial decisions about how to do "something", ie. you have to maximize your window manually, it's 2011, OS should be able to open windows just using voice commands.... one point less for neowin!

p3pp8 said,
bleah, osX is for kids...or, at least, for peoples they don't understand nothing about it and computers at all, it's a trend and nothing else, worked with a mac for a long time, so many bugs and trivial decisions about how to do "something", ie. you have to maximize your window manually, it's 2011, OS should be able to open windows just using voice commands.... one point less for neowin!

Can't believe you, honestly...
Ever tried voice commands in OS X?
It's excellent!

Furthermore, your choice of words and trolling points out just one thing: immaturity and fanboism.
Granted you made up your mind about what to use by using both camps, most don't even try, but really... Grow up.

Glassed Silver said,

Can't believe you, honestly...
Ever tried voice commands in OS X?
It's excellent!

Furthermore, your choice of words and trolling points out just one thing: immaturity and fanboism.
Granted you made up your mind about what to use by using both camps, most don't even try, but really... Grow up.

Sorry if my words touched You mate, that was my personal experience, and even more, i've always noticed freezes and many slow downs working with a mac(dual core duo with 2gb and ati video), avoid now to talk about the balance price/innovation, Apple is ages back(i don't need to pay for design to work, horrible among other things, this my personal opinion), have You ever tried out any other OS before to speak? This is neither a matter of maturity nor fanboism, it's experience. Don't talk about iPhone4, i've always thought company should go forward with new products not backwards, the old one was better in design and, of course, functionality.
Regards

Excellent article! I have used Windows as far as I can remember, (the one exception being that my elementary school used to have Mac computers with a version 9 OS but they were replaced by Windows XP computers my second year there...) but I don't close my mind to the other OSes and stuff out there... If what you have works for you, great! If not, then try something else... That's all there is to it. Don't need to try to convince every single person you run into that the OS you use is the best (or worst) you've ever seen.

I am definitely not saying that Windows is the best, or the worst. But it's great for me, and I can't tell someone else to use it because it works for me. It's like me saying that a Medium-sized shirt works great for everyone. It most definitely does not.

Anyway, good article!

I agree, Laura... I also frequent OSNews and ARS but... all it takes is one comment about some feature I might like or not like about any OS and suddenly I am a hater of that OS. I try to say that "no, I am an enthusiast and like all OS's" but they don't care... you don't like the OS they are running, you are a fanboi of another.

I rarely ever comment on new articles, but this one I completely agree with. I never take sides when it comes to technology. I own a PS3, a Wii, a 360, a PC, and a Mac. I have an iPod touch and an android phone. It's more fun to play around with all platforms than to just stick to the same old boring thing for such a long time

I thought this was a really well written piece, but since it said what I already believe I would do

Anyone who is serious about their interest in technology will not stick to just one platform but will want to stick their nose in everything in my opinion.

I can't even remember when I joined Neowin, probably back when Bink.nu was just an MSN Group... and one could probably assume that a good third if not half of all internet discussions are pointless post counting opinions about this very subject.

I come here to Neowin just like the rest of you do... to read up on the news, it's one of my three or four stops I make every day. Neowin doesn't cover all the techy news, or do all the reviews, but it is a fun place to read up on some cool things.

What makes it suck, is that all it still takes, is someone to say Windows is better than Mac, and it's an all out post counting fling like monkeys targeting tourists at the zoo.

Fun article, and yeah... all this time that's how it's supposed to be. I grew older using both systems and will continue to do so, along with Ubuntu!

Great blurb! I really wish people would be like that... in our house we have 2 PCs and 3 Macs. My wife owns an iPhone 4, me an HTC HD7. I have been using both Apple and Windows products since their inception and will continue to use both. I've also been a BeOS and OS/2 enthusiast in the past as well as a linux and BSD user. Really, I find something to like about every operating system because to me, they are all magical.

I too switch to Mac in 2008 & missing all the viruses of windows. I kid! Windows is an awesome platform that is home to many professionals & simpletons alike.

So basically what point was there other than saying "doesn't matter what OS" and "Neowin is great" was there to this "editorial"? It's like a filler episode of Battlestar Galatica if you ask me. No real point. Glad you like windows

An interesting read, and well written. It's been a while since a read through every single comment after an article too.

Personally, I've never felt the need to go Mac (although I have nothing against it), so have been a Microsoft DOS and Windows user all my life. Despite the inevitable frustrations of all the OS's from Dos 3.3 to Windows 7, every one that has come out has been an improvement on the previous one, to the point now where Windows 7 does everything it needs to, with performance, speed, and eye-catching looks as well. I have played around with OSX on friends computers, and I like it, but it doesnt have enough positives over Windows for me to make the switch.

I just hope that Microsoft can keep up the momentum, and that each successive version of Windows improves again over Windows 7.

I am beginning to feel like a fossil. My first experience with Windows was 3.0, my first real experience came with Windows 95 and my first stable experience was NT 4.0 (i386/x86). As for Linux, the first version I tried was either Debian or Slackware. The first version that I can clearly remember was Redhat 5.0, god I hated that POS. Linux got better with time, but nothing from Redhat can make up for the nightmare that was RPM hell.

As for the Mac, my first experience with OS X was the developer preview release, I think in the Fall of 2000. It was pretty interesting. The interface at the time was novel with transparency, big icons and a dock (that was more useful than OS/2 or CDE). All I can remember was patiently waiting by the door for Fedex to deliver version 10.0. It was packaged nice, had a nice presentation, but was slowww! It got a bit better with the free 10.1 release. I was actually pretty impressed with 10.2 in the summer/fall of 2002.

From there, I began to drift away from OS X. I never used 10.3 at all, though I do have installs of 10.4, which was pretty sweet when compared to XP. I really haven't used the Mac much sense. I have played around with 10.5 and 10.6 a little. The MacBook that I did own got a stock Windows Vista and than Win7 install. My Mac desktops are long since gone.

The exception to this is my iPod Touch and iPhone.

I think what has ****ed me off about Apple is not their products. They are generally pretty good. Not the best, but not the worst. It isn't even the company. I can deal with the bi-polar like Steve Jobs. No, what really gets me is the Mac user base. They **** me off to no end.

I use Ubuntu as my primary OS because I'm a fan of free and open source software, so that right there puts it ahead of Windows and OS X in my mind. I am not, however, opposed to using them... and I do dual-boot with Windows 7 for gaming. (Oh, and if I could install OS X on this computer I would. It's so very polished.)

I feel comfortable enough in Ubuntu to not want to leave it in most cases. Now we really just need Steam and TF2 over here and I'll be set.

I haven't had a reason to try out the Mac.

I use Windows for games and applications, and if I need to do "more advanced" stuff I get into Ubuntu (Linux) right away.

I've never been a fanboy. I figure that if someone like OSX, so be it, if you like Linux, so be it. I'm in the windows camp, just because I've grown up with it. From DOS 2.2, windows 3, windows 95, XP, 7, it's just been a natural evolution.
The fact that all of the apps I use are windows, and work is 100% windows has a lot to do with it.
Mac is a great platform, just not for my needs.
Where I have a problem, is with the fanboys in BOTH camps. Grow up!

In 2007 I bought my first Macbook, a Blackbook. I was tired of XP and Vista in 2007 was a failure. After being a Microsoft user from the DOS days I wanted to see what the "Mac" was all about.

I dove deep, quickly bought more Mac's, moved the whole family over. At work I got a Mac, and run Fusion then Parallels to do my work (AD/Exchange/VMware engineer). I went full bore with Apple. I all but wrote off Microsoft and Windows. I thought 7 was going to be Vista renamed. I moved my gaming to PS3/360.

After a while I just ran into a speed bump here, or a extra step here, mostly around working in a Windows world. I found most applications, if they were ported to the Mac, lacking. (Office, Quicken, Quickbooks etc). The one thing that stood out was iLife, especially for my family. Then the wife went back to work after 8 years, for her family, and she took her Mac, but they ran all Windows apps. So I installed Windows 7 for the first time in the spring of 2010. I loaded it with Office 2010, new versions of Quicken, Quikbooks, etc. I was like ahhh I remember you. Windows gave me so many options, no more looking for apps to replace the better Windows apps, just run Windows apps. PC gaming was back, the PS3/360 was starting to look old (tech wise) and steam had greatly improved from 2006 ish.

I then built Desktop........and now I only have a single Macbook unibody and it lives mostly in Windows 7. OS X is good, Apple hardware is very nice, but as a computer solution (for me and my family) it is lacking.

Over the summer with all of the Live Essentials/Hotmail upgrades I feel Microsoft has taken the only real advantage I saw with the Mac "iLife" away. LE 2011 is good enough to replace iLife.

However to each his own. I lived both sides and I know the pluses and minuses of both.

This is also true in a lot of other products, the phrase "open your mind..........open your mind" comes to my mind
Nice article Brian

This is one of the best editorials I have read here
This is the reason why I come to neowin because of writings like this

Keep up the great work.

Let me share with you.

I got 1 Windows desktop and 2 laptops (one windows and one Mac Powerbook). Desktop is for gaming and programming. Windows laptop I carry around and use around the home. Mac Powerbook, I used in toilet when I am doing no2. I swear that to you.

Great read Brian. Very interesting! I, like a few others, creep here on a daily basis. I played around with OS X and I just loved the fluidity of it, everything just worked but it was the complex structure of where everything is in the OS vs. the lack of games. (Complex to an OS X foreigner; steam didn't exist then). Regardless, I can still appreciate why others choose it over 7. Anyways, Merry Christmas!

If you want that users stop thinking about Windows vs OS X; PS3 vs Xbox etc... then don't bring it to their attention.
This topic post will be viewed hundreds of times and will be shared. Others will comment on it saying it is true, saying OS X is better while others say that Windows is for advanced users.

Just give us news and not posts with opinions which are fueling the fire and flames. You just brought the whole flaming part back alive.

I really don't care that you, newsposters, like boys or girls, just give us news and not opinions.

If you want the "fanboy thingy" to end well just ignore it and don't make posts about it.

nifke said,

Just give us news and not posts with opinions which are fueling the fire and flames. You just brought the whole flaming part back alive..
Funny, the comments don't seem seem all that flamey... did you read the same article/comments I did?

Simply turning a blind eye on the issue of X vs. Y doesn't mean it'll stop. And contrary to what you think, this opinion piece had an overall positive effect on those that chose to comment on it.

Great read!
I think a big problem is people get an idea of what they like or don't like early on, and then find it very hard to admit they were wrong, or that they've changed their mind about what's good and what isn't, so you get stubborn attitudes just to save face. Human nature I guess, but with any luck you may have helped a few people broaden their minds

Fun read. I've switched from osx to windows, iphone to android, ps2 to xbox...in the end I just think I am too much of a nerd to stick with one piece of tech when there are other options to explore. Thanks for the article!

Nice read.

I think it says how I feel about things. Use the right tool(s) for the job(s). All of the OS's have their strengths and weaknesses. Every time I use one OS for any amount of time, I ache to use features from other ones.. there is no one OS which does everything I want!

Cast aside your assumptions and stereotypes and explore what the others have to offer!

AnonD said,
What? There's no right click on OS X? What's the substitute then?

There's no physical button and without addon software in windows to bind a key to it, you can't right click. Thanks though.

Brian said,

There's no physical button and without addon software in windows to bind a key to it, you can't right click. Thanks though.

I'm confused. Are you saying you can't use the right mouse button on a Mac mouse in Windows, cause the newer optical Mac mice when used in Windows accept the right click region without add-on software

briangw said,

I'm confused. Are you saying you can't use the right mouse button on a Mac mouse in Windows, cause the newer optical Mac mice when used in Windows accept the right click region without add-on software

I think he's saying that, when running Windows on a Mac laptop, there's no way to right click, since the trackpad only has one button. In Mac OS X, you have to hold down a button and then click with your trackpad in order to right click, so when running Windows on a Mac, I assume that workaround doesn't work.

treemonster said,
so macs still don't have right click context menus?

No. No one has said that or even alluded to it.

briangw said,

I'm confused. Are you saying you can't use the right mouse button on a Mac mouse in Windows, cause the newer optical Mac mice when used in Windows accept the right click region without add-on software

Mac computers don't have a right mouse button. It's a solid bar on most laptop touchpads, or just one solid piece of plastic for a mouse. You can ctrl-click to 'right click', but there isn't a physical right click on the computer. When you partition Windows on a Mac machine, this may cause some inconvenience, being that it seems every company except Apple likes making right click on your mouse device standard.

smartin0115 said,

Mac computers don't have a right mouse button. It's a solid bar on most laptop touchpads, or just one solid piece of plastic for a mouse. You can ctrl-click to 'right click', but there isn't a physical right click on the computer. When you partition Windows on a Mac machine, this may cause some inconvenience, being that it seems every company except Apple likes making right click on your mouse device standard.

On the Mighty Mouse there was in fact two sensors, so you could right click if you pressed the right side of the mouse. Not easy to see from just looking or playing about with for a short time. Personally I did find it clumsy but it was there.

Laura said,

On the Mighty Mouse there was in fact two sensors, so you could right click if you pressed the right side of the mouse. Not easy to see from just looking or playing about with for a short time. Personally I did find it clumsy but it was there.

That's what I meant. I have that mouse

AnonD said,
What? There's no right click on OS X? What's the substitute then?
On modern Mac laptops with touchpads (as well as the Magic Trackpad) you just have to click with 2 fingers to right-click. It seems weird at first, but becomes very natural after some use.

DigitalE said,
On modern Mac laptops with touchpads (as well as the Magic Trackpad) you just have to click with 2 fingers to right-click. It seems weird at first, but becomes very natural after some use.

I was surprised noone knew of this on here and am reading this just now... Bunch of noobs!

treemonster said,
so macs still don't have right click context menus?

They do, you just tap with two fingers on the trackpad

Find out how the other side lives, this way you'll have a window into the mind of your peers and you'll know just why they're so passionate about the tech that they love and enjoy.
What is the alternative side of Neowin?

Dirty Confession: Switched to OS X, but still love Windows (and why Neowin matters)

So lay down your weapons, gather around the tree... And in the words of one of our wise writers: All anybody needs is Kinect, eggnog and their friends.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

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For me it isn't about what the OS can do or how pretty it is. It's about the business practices of the company.

Apple is way too closed, and against freedom, and against innovation.

I agree with you Brian. Of all the years I've been reading tech articles, I have yet to read one that finally acknowledges the truth that each OS has its own benefits and flaws and that it's fine to use both.

Personally, I don't like how in OS X you have to use Expose all the time to switch windows if you have a bunch open. It's nice when you use it occasionally, but if I'm writing a paper and have to reference a bunch of PDFs, it becomes tedious. Clicking on the icon in the dock doesn't let you choose which specific window in that app to open (like if you have 5 PDFs open). Also, I find it hard to believe that until Snow Leopard, you couldn't "restore" items from the Trash to their original location. I still like OS X a lot and it has a great interface.

I use Windows 7 primarily but I still like switching to OS X or even Ubuntu occasionally. People should stop arguing about each and just enjoy them.

Great post!

One small snippet I noticed:

"When you trade your Desire for a locked iPhone 3GS (What! I missed Facebook chat), it's kind of a necessity."

Is it a bad time to tell you Facebook for Android now features Facebook Chat?

Hardcore Til I Die said,
Great post!

One small snippet I noticed:

"When you trade your Desire for a locked iPhone 3GS (What! I missed Facebook chat), it's kind of a necessity."

Is it a bad time to tell you Facebook for Android now features Facebook Chat?

Ahahaha, you're only the third commenter to tell me. Talk about timing eh?

I liked this article not because it really showed me anythin new, but that it showed some people can actually realize that even though they may like OS X, that doesn't mean that Windows Winblows or whatever people like to say.

People on other sites accuse people of being anti-Apple when all the person does is make rebuttals against their Anti-Windows FUD.

I use all 3, the problem I find is only ONE of them refuses to legitimately run on other hardware (cough cough) so one has to pay up lots of $$ for a poorly specced machine to use OSx.

That for me is apple's falling point, high pirce, little customization.

Only way i'll be running OSx properly will be if I win lotto or someone gives me an apple PC

Great read! Like you, I switch phones, computers, consoles and even TVs on a daily basis. The world is flooded with so much eye candy and fun and exciting ways of experiencing different products that's it's close to impossible to stick with one thing.
Good to see an article like this one on the site. Opens my eyes to see that bots aren't in control of the main page =P

Great article, well written. IMO I do not care what OS I use as long as it does what I need to do and when I need to do. I use Win 7, Linux, MAC OS X. Every OS has pros and cons. Choose what best suits your lifestyle.

Great read.

I went through a very similar experience. Switched to OS X in 2006 and thought it was the best thing ever, I'd never go back to Windows. But, like you, I felt something was missing but couldn't really put my hand on what it was. This summer I wanted to try Windows 7 so I used Boot Camp - and realized what I was missing: games. The ease of use of Steam, the massive library.

I now find myself wanting a computer that can mulitask OSes, without the restrictions of virtualization. If I could live in OS X but virtualize Windows 7 and game with full system resources...heaven.

soLoredd said,
Great read.

I went through a very similar experience. Switched to OS X in 2006 and thought it was the best thing ever, I'd never go back to Windows. But, like you, I felt something was missing but couldn't really put my hand on what it was. This summer I wanted to try Windows 7 so I used Boot Camp - and realized what I was missing: games. The ease of use of Steam, the massive library.

I now find myself wanting a computer that can mulitask OSes, without the restrictions of virtualization. If I could live in OS X but virtualize Windows 7 and game with full system resources...heaven.


When it comes to tech, I change my mind daily. Smartphones for instance, started with an iPhone 3GS, sold it and got a Legend, then sold that and got a Desire, and now a 3GS again, hah. OSes arethe samefor me.

The grass is always greener on the other side?

For the author, most of the things you like in Windows and Mac OSX can be achieved in any OS using third party programs. Things like Expose work great in Windows and Linux And facebook chat? What phone doesn't have that. No reason for 3GS, lol. And you can get Aero peek in OSX.

It seems you rely on the out of the box experience.

Sacha said,
The grass is always greener on the other side?

For the author, most of the things you like in Windows and Mac OSX can be achieved in any OS using third party programs. Things like Expose work great in Windows and Linux And facebook chat? What phone doesn't have that. No reason for 3GS, lol. And you can get Aero peak in OSX.

It seems you rely on the out of the box experience.

I think you missed the point of this article. When I'm inclined I can change what I like, I understand that. I was discussing the fact that communities divide over issues, and really, it doesn't matter what you do, or what you use, it's the community as a whole. I just used an anecdote to relate. Also, when I switched phones the Android facebook app did not have chat support.

Overall the article was a discussion for those that may sometimes let their opinions get away from themselves, and also for those that understand that it's not what you use, or what you do, but who you are in a community.

andrewbares said,

...worst reason to switch phones, ever.

That may be, but it's still MY choice, which is the fact of the entire article. Kind of like I want to buy a WP7 phone, regardless of the issues people say that there may be.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

Uh, he never said that that was the reason he switched...

"When you trade your Desire for a locked iPhone 3GS (What! I missed Facebook chat)"

Yes, he did.

Brian said,

That may be, but it's still MY choice, which is the fact of the entire article. Kind of like I want to buy a WP7 phone, regardless of the issues people say that there may be.

Don't buy a WP7 then, since there's no OFFICIAL Facebook Chat.

Sacha said,
The grass is always greener on the other side?
......

It seems you rely on the out of the box experience.

As do most people..

Sacha said,
The grass is always greener on the other side?

For the author, most of the things you like in Windows and Mac OSX can be achieved in any OS using third party programs. Things like Expose work great in Windows and Linux And facebook chat? What phone doesn't have that. No reason for 3GS, lol. And you can get Aero peek in OSX.

It seems you rely on the out of the box experience.


Brian, you blew my mind. If there was a Neowin's 2010 best article award, this would've been it I wholeheartedly agreed with every word you said.

Awesome article, Brian. I just wish more people were as open as us when it comes to operating systems (and technology in general). As a PC gamer, I've always used Windows as my main operating system but I never stopped myself from using Mac OS X or Linux (and its various distributions). It's nice to have the benefit of using something different every once in awhile. It frees you from the boring cycle of monotony and lets you experience something new. Who knows? My next laptop purchase might be from Apple.

over the years I've tried quite a few different OS's but for some unknown reason I'm always drawn back to Windows, I don't know why maybe it's the point and click ease of use and as you said Gaming.. I'm not an console fan never have been I like my KB + Mouse

Neowin + Tech + Us = a good time for all

Athlonite said,
over the years I've tried quite a few different OS's but for some unknown reason I'm always drawn back to Windows,

Me too. I actually know why though. File management. One of the first things I did with OS X was install and try every alternative file manager. A lot of them had cool features, but they didn't integrate 100% the way a native file manager does and they all where severly lacking when compared to Windows explorer. I consider collapsible grouping to be a must have feature in my file manager. It's absence was painful to me. I hated feeling like I had to rely on all these apps (with their proprietary, non-portable DB's) to be able to properly manage my files. Your expected to lean on iTunes, iPhoto and even some third party software like bento. I never felt comfortable locking my info into 3rd party DB's. I actually just dropped picasa for Live Gallery because I found out it stores face data in a standard photo tag (that can actually be read and used by picasa).

SkyDX said,
That article speaks the truth, well written!

Indeed, Shame that my friend is stuck up on Mac OS when he switched a week ago. He is like, i will never go back and on and on and on and on and on... i don't even know why i bother with him any more.

GrandTheftAuto said,

Indeed, Shame that my friend is stuck up on Mac OS when he switched a week ago. He is like, i will never go back and on and on and on and on and on... i don't even know why i bother with him any more.

Its only a OS, its christmas, now you have a friend with OSX, whats the problem. You tell him about windows, he informs you bout OSX. Happy christmas to the both of you

Good post, nice to see something subjective and not filled with fanboyism on the internets I share the same opinions as you, I like Windows, OSX, and Linux. They all have their pros and cons.