DOJ Pushes Microsoft to Produce Vista SP1 Beta in '07

It's unusual, but confirmation of the availability of Windows Vista's first service pack came Tuesday not from Microsoft Corp., but from the U.S. Department of Justice. Tucked into the government's 27-page joint status settlement report released late Tuesday was evidence that Microsoft will put the beta of Vista SP1 into users' hands before the end of the year. The report also confirmed Windows XP SP3, but did not specify beta or final release dates, although it said some code would be finalized this summer.

Microsoft has been loath to talk about either service pack, but has been particularly mum about Windows Vista SP1, a widely-anticipated bug update that some enterprise users are waiting on before deploying the new operating system. As recently as April, when Intel Corp.'s CEO Paul Otellini hinted that Vista SP1 would likely release in October or November, Microsoft refused to confirm any schedule. "We will continue to take customer feedback from programs like the TAP [Technology Adoption Program], and will ultimately determine an official delivery date as the service pack is nearer to completion," a company spokeswoman said at the time.

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From a Marketing standpoint Microsoft needs to do what ever it takes to get SP1 out in time for the 2007 Christmas season. Vista missed the 2006 Christmas season. For Microsoft to miss two Christmas seasons in a row, I just don’t see the OEM’s, Computer Retailers letting Microsoft slide by another Christmas. For everyone waiting for SP1 before going to Vista, if it is ready before Christmas, big sales and the OEM’s and Retailers are happy. If after Christmas, as Vista was, then no sales and Vista falls on it’s face.

They are not - it's simply not ready yet. A lot of Tablet PC manufacturers are awaiting Vista SP1 for all the new functionality that should have been there from day 1...

I dont understand why MS is trying to delay the SP1 update. They need to realize the bulk of the potential vista users wont jump on the band wagon until SP1. I would have rushed SP1 just to get more sales even if it did not have many updates already.

Heh, according to some at MS, they will put out SP1 as soon as possible.

There isn't really anything wrong with Vista, yet due to the old adage of 'wait for SP1' among the IT industry (who really need to get over it and due internal testing as we do), MS are more willing to just get it out there to increase uptake of Vista.

It's a legacy from their old security practices and the mark that has left on their record. Vista is a huge departure from those old days, yet no one will believe them.

In the same time frame, XP had maybe 3-5x the amount of vulnerabilities discovered that Vista has had. In fact maybe in-line if not better than the amount found in Tiger during the same period of its release.

Septimus said,
Heh, according to some at MS, they will put out SP1 as soon as possible.

There isn't really anything wrong with Vista, yet due to the old adage of 'wait for SP1' among the IT industry (who really need to get over it and due internal testing as we do), MS are more willing to just get it out there to increase uptake of Vista.

It's a legacy from their old security practices and the mark that has left on their record. Vista is a huge departure from those old days, yet no one will believe them.

In the same time frame, XP had maybe 3-5x the amount of vulnerabilities discovered that Vista has had. In fact maybe in-line if not better than the amount found in Tiger during the same period of its release.

I will still wait for SP1 before it hits my production environment, because things are still failing. I also cannot administrate my servers across my domain with Vista (using an Adminpack) only RDP into them, which I do rely upon, but the Adminpack just as much.

There isn't really anything wrong with Vista as far as a consumer goes, but on the business end, there is plenty wrong, or not working.

Considering that Windows 2008 Server is a branch off the Vista code base and that the server release is expected to be secure and stable, if the changes to the Vista code base since the divergence is reintegrated for SP1, the time line for a service pack release is realistic and in sync with that of the Server 2008 release. I don't think it's "rushed" as Microsoft had even stated they didn't plan on doing traditional service packs for Vista, this will undoubtedly be a security rollup masqueraded as a service pack release.

Am I the only one that thinks pushing MS to release code to fix bugs that are found by more and more users using the OS a bad thing? I dunno... this just seems like a bad idea to me.

yes i agree, let companies fix their issues in their own time, and then they may just fix them properly, although it is very similar to all the users complainng about the MAc security issue in safari, which forced apple to release an early fix whci left a whole lot of other issues hanging around.

I think the fear is that SP1 will simply take far too long otherwise, much like the initial release of Vista. MS should definitely feel pressured to release a service pack, and preferably one that lives up to the high expectations held by so many. (That is to say, it should make Vista give XP a run for its money in terms of stability, etc.) It's a lot to ask for, a massive update to tie all of Vista's loose ends and whatnot (while still working on XP SP3 and Vienna), but it's something they need to be capable of doing, and in a reasonable timeframe. (Though they've finally released Vista they have a lot of ground to make up for all its delays.)

Purgatory said,
I think the fear is that SP1 will simply take far too long otherwise, much like the initial release of Vista. MS should definitely feel pressured to release a service pack, and preferably one that lives up to the high expectations held by so many. (That is to say, it should make Vista give XP a run for its money in terms of stability, etc.) It's a lot to ask for, a massive update to tie all of Vista's loose ends and whatnot (while still working on XP SP3 and Vienna), but it's something they need to be capable of doing, and in a reasonable timeframe. (Though they've finally released Vista they have a lot of ground to make up for all its delays.)

I agree with what you say in principle, however if MS get SP1 wrong then say bye bye to vista, it will be a flop without a doubt. Every IT guy i know is waiting for SP1 before they even look at it, if they release SP1 and it still has half the issues it has now, poeople will simply not use it and start waiting for SP2 or be totally dishartened with vista all together, if you consider by the time they release SP2 for vista they will most likely have their next OS out which from what i read is due out 2009. This is especially the case if SP3 for XP does a good job at fixing the remaining niggling issues, which there isn't a lot of anymore. I think the biggest threat to Vista is the fact XP is sooo stable nowdays (and wideley regarded as MS best OS of all time) and with SP3 will be a damn good OS, which is hard to move away from, the old saying "if it aint broke".

WTF?

Why would the DOJ be pushing SP1 and pouncing on Microsoft's back to get this out to customers? This smells a foul. Once again, the government of the USA should have no say in Microsoft's code as millions of users world wide use this software. Why should the DOJ have their hands in this when it potentially affects the world base of computer users out there that are running Vista?

maybe it is becasue they want to roll out vista and refuse to do so at the moment as it is so full of bugs it is ridiculous, hence the 1000 odd updates that have already been released, when i looked on my WSUS server it had 1500 updates relating to vista. you conspiracy theorists crack me up. and it is not just the US wasn't it france that made MS modify it's code becasue of all those law suits etc etc

Sinz said,
WTF?
Once again, the government of the USA should have no say in Microsoft's code as millions of users world wide use this software. Why should the DOJ have their hands in this when it potentially affects the world base of computer users out there that are running Vista?

It's no different than the crap MS has been facing with the EU.

yeah and improve the default program setting i find it useless how many times i put firefox as my default browser even trying to associate htm and html with firefox it dont open any links on it. when i try to associate the protocol like http and https i cant put firefox on it neither the new default programs its one of those vista only program that really dont comply, instant search its necessary in any modern OS.

The DOJ is in on tracking Microsoft's SP actions? Why does the conspiracy theorist in me wonder if they have some code they want included in it? Linux, you look better and better every day....

Riiight. lol These type of posts get stupider every day.

The DOJ probably wants Vista to be a little more stable for some of their older computers (a few years old). With Win 2000 -> XP they moved slowly, but they want and need some of the new stuff Vista has (such as the IPv6 improvements). They don't really want the computers to be so far behind, especially not how they were with the old OSes.

I'm just speculating of course, but that's what I think.

RazorEye said,
The DOJ is in on tracking Microsoft's SP actions? Why does the conspiracy theorist in me wonder if they have some code they want included in it? Linux, you look better and better every day....

You're a moron. Take the tinfoil hat off while you are at it.

Yay let’s rush Microsoft to push out some software yeah that won’t be bad idea will it now.
Hmm I like the idea of Vista SP1 but why try and rush them next thing you know we will have Vista SP1a

obviously we have to make MS rush, if they take there time we wont have bugs to complain about and swear on our mothers life that were finally switiching to osx

accesser said,
Yay let’s rush Microsoft to push out some software yeah that won’t be bad idea will it now.
Hmm I like the idea of Vista SP1 but why try and rush them next thing you know we will have Vista SP1a

U know, the only reason XP had an "SP1a" was because of the antitrust crap.... had nothing to do with them rushing to release it and leaving stuff out of SP1, which I assume is what you're getting at.

ispamforfood said,

U know, the only reason XP had an "SP1a" was because of the antitrust crap.... had nothing to do with them rushing to release it and leaving stuff out of SP1, which I assume is what you're getting at.

i think he was reffering to SP4 for NT, what a bitch that was hence sp4a

oops it was a while ago

Yeah I just found it very strange a government should push a software company into releasing something thats all.

If MS are not ready to release some quality code for a service pack don’t rush them when I said SP1a I was thinking that there would be bugs in the first one if it where rushed so they would recall that and release another less broken one lol. :P

I'm all for bug fixes but all in good time nothing is perfect software will always have bugs/ random features