DRM group vows to fight bloggers

According to the Advanced Access Content System copy protection body, bloggers "crossed the line" when they published a software key, capable of circumventing the digital rights management technology encryption on some HD-DVDs, on thousands of web sites. Many said they had done this as an exercise in free speech. An AACS executive said it was looking at "legal and technical tools" to confront those who published the key.

Michael Ayers, chair of the AACS business group, said it had received "good cooperation from most folk" in preventing the leak of the key. "It started out as a circumvention effort six to eight weeks ago but we now see the key on YouTube and on T-Shirts. Some people clearly think it's a First Amendment issue. There is no intent from us to interfere with people's right to discuss copy protection. We respect free speech. We know some people are critical of the technology. But a line is crossed when we start seeing keys being distributed and tools for circumvention."

A search on Google shows almost 700,000 pages have published the key. "We will take whatever action is appropriate. The key that has been leaked has now been revoked. This is the first round and will not be the last." He emphasized that AACS brought stronger tools to the table than previous copy protection system and said the system had been designed to cope with breaches.

News source: BBC News

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Has AACS been fully cracked or something? I thought that only some keys from certain movies were being published.. am I right?!

No your not. This key was separate from the volume keys making it much easier to use.

Even without this key you can still just use the old method.

Copy Protection and any company that uses it are morons. You can NEVER stop copy protection from being broken without radically redesigning the way all recording and playback devices operate. Bottom line is as long as a device is able to play back the copy protected disc then there exists a way to duplicate that disk

Qumahlin said,
No your not. This key was separate from the volume keys making it much easier to use.

Even without this key you can still just use the old method.

Copy Protection and any company that uses it are morons. You can NEVER stop copy protection from being broken without radically redesigning the way all recording and playback devices operate. Bottom line is as long as a device is able to play back the copy protected disc then there exists a way to duplicate that disk


word.

I want one of those shirts...

Qumahlin said,
No your not. This key was separate from the volume keys making it much easier to use.

Even without this key you can still just use the old method.

Copy Protection and any company that uses it are morons. You can NEVER stop copy protection from being broken without radically redesigning the way all recording and playback devices operate. Bottom line is as long as a device is able to play back the copy protected disc then there exists a way to duplicate that disk

speaker out to mic in, or line out to line in, whatever you prefer

Qumahlin said,
Copy Protection and any company that uses it are morons. You can NEVER stop copy protection from being broken without radically redesigning the way all recording and playback devices operate. Bottom line is as long as a device is able to play back the copy protected disc then there exists a way to duplicate that disk

Seriously folk!!!... you all need to more research into VISTA.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS AND IS BEING DONE.

Under restraints placed upon it by Hollywood, Vista has introduce measures that are now being build into the hardware that we use..

Graphics cards are the first to fall.. but next is mobos and then smaller components like ram.

Vista might be all nice and shiny, but it's what's under the hood that none of you seem to have looked at. Did you know that you'll NEVER get true hi-def from bluray under Vista because it's been intetionally crippled? Even with the so called vaunted "Vista compatible hardware" (all of this hdmi crap) you will only ever get upscaled images.. don't take my word for it go read.

Vista also scans your HDD, sends that info to M$ for authorisation and if it sees stuff it doesn't like.. your OS has the ability to delete software and data from your machine.. AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

For those of you who actually care about the ropes that your new os is binding you with.. read this.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html.

Google will do the rest...This is REAL, it's not funny take it seriously.. at least read it and know what you are getting into.

:)

(The Walker said @ #15.4)
Vista also scans your HDD, sends that info to M$ for authorisation and if it sees stuff it doesn't like.. your OS has the ability to delete software and data from your machine.. AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

lol, wasnt that pretty much the same BS that was said about XP when it came out? every new OS is going to have this said about it.

They certainly could, but unlike the AACS group they realize how stupid and futile that would be. Instead they just block the leaked keys and work on improving their protection rather than running around screaming like idiots and trying to sue thousands of anonymous people.

Michael Ayers,

Are you really this clueless? "A line has been crossed." Okay. So what? The DMCA letter did nothing but advertise something worldwide that NOBODY but a handful of geeks knew about. Now, it's all over the world.

Are you dumb enough to keep this going? You can't "win" anything here. You can only keep losing face and begin to lose a whole hell of a lot of money. The only winners will be your lawyers (who will be powerless in the end).

You're a parasite on the corporate carcasse of the dying DRM dinosaur. The end is nigh.

Take your money while you can, sell your stock options while they are still worth something, and go invent something of actual value to the world.

Let's hope the AACS find all those "brave people" who posted the key on Digg.

Hold on a second... most of them did it anonymously. It's great when you can "fight the power" and hide behind a keyboard at the same time - Keyboard Warriors Unite!!

If they make reality of their threats, I think they won't attack individuals on Digg, but the Digg administrators themselves instead. And they're very much findable. They probably realized that too, and why they were reluctant at first to stop removing the posts.

Wow.

Good thing I didn't print out a few thousand pages with the number on it and distribute it across college campuses, shopping center parking lots and public transit centers like I wanted to. Thank god it rained the last couple of days or else I would be fearing for my life.

/not.

Sartoris said,
People don't understand that freedom of speech does not apply to everything.


Ummm.... Yes, it does.


It's actually guaranteed to apply to everything. Everything we can ever write, speak, sing, whisper, murmur, any of it, all of it.


It applies to this as well. Once the key was found out, someone exercised their right to share it through a speech medium. It's just that the people in control of our lives, (read: government) moderate how much we can exercise this right.


Frankly, they are just upset because they tried their damndest and, despite it all, someone STILL cracked their code. What do they think is gonna happen? The next one that gets cracked will be published yet again, Sooner if not later.

legendz411 said,


Ummm.... Yes, it does.


It's actually guaranteed to apply to everything. Everything we can ever write, speak, sing, whisper, murmur, any of it, all of it.


It applies to this as well. Once the key was found out, someone exercised their right to share it through a speech medium. It's just that the people in control of our lives, (read: government) moderate how much we can exercise this right.


Frankly, they are just upset because they tried their damndest and, despite it all, someone STILL cracked their code. What do they think is gonna happen? The next one that gets cracked will be published yet again, Sooner if not later.

Im sorry but that is not fredom of speach. That is just being stupid. I am not calling you stupid but the people that leaked the code.

legendz411 said,

Ummm.... Yes, it does.

It's actually guaranteed to apply to everything. Everything we can ever write, speak, sing, whisper, murmur, any of it, all of it.

You shouldn't have dropped out of high school so soon.

Defamation is a form of speech. Defamation is not protected in any country, regardless of government (unless that government itself is committing defamation, in which case it's perfectly legal...in politician eyes). On the contrary, you can be sued if you exercise defamation believing you have some sort of freedom or right to speak without incrimination.

Defamation is usually sorted between libel (fixed medium, such as text) and slander (transitory form, primarily speech). You write it, you speak it, you sing/whisper/murmur it, then it had better be true, cuz otherwise there ain't no such thing as "freedom of speech" to bail your azz out. In most cases you can be sued...in some cases you can be jailed, especially in certain countries.

Now I'm fully expecting someone to start arguing that the second amendment guarantees the right to carry semi-automatic assault rifles in a crowded farmer's market...

Freedom of Speech refers to the freedom to express opinions and ideas without being punished by the government. It doesn't mean you are free to say anything you want. Remember it was written in the 1700s, when they used the word speech they didn't mean literally "Freedom to talk". Posting this number is not expressing an opinion or idea, it is not protected speech. How do people get through school without even understanding what this stuff means?

I think you all need to understand WERE NOT ALL AMERICAN!!!. your frre speech laws may apply to you, but my government has different opinion adn so do most.

And as for the American laws i think you all need to realsise your laws were written hundreds of years ago, before tv or even radio. they would have had absolutley no idea about computers and the internet.

a classic exampe is your gun laws, get over it guns are bad and people shoot people with them, giving out more guns is not the answer!!. but its my second ammendmant right so im gonna carry one

whocares78 said,
a classic exampe is your gun laws, get over it guns are bad and people shoot people with them, giving out more guns is not the answer!!. but its my second ammendmant right so im gonna carry one


lol. one of the most rediculous arguments of all time. although this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and is a poor example to try an relate old law vs new era.

sure, [bad] people shoot people with guns, but the [bad] people doing the shooting obviously have no regard for the law so does it really matter if a [good] person has a right to own a gun? there's no comparison. legal does not equal illegal, and owning/carrying a gun does not mean youre going to commit crime. and in fact there are statistics to show that in populations where there are more guns on the street in the hands of everyday citizens there is less crime. if everyone has a gun then no single person [criminal] has the upper hand over another person.

hash said,


lol. one of the most rediculous arguments of all time. although this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and is a poor example to try an relate old law vs new era.

sure, [bad] people shoot people with guns, but the [bad] people doing the shooting obviously have no regard for the law so does it really matter if a [good] person has a right to own a gun? there's no comparison. legal does not equal illegal, and owning/carrying a gun does not mean youre going to commit crime. and in fact there are statistics to show that in populations where there are more guns on the street in the hands of everyday citizens there is less crime. if everyone has a gun then no single person [criminal] has the upper hand over another person.

how many mass murders have their been in the US this year alone???? i can think of 2 in the last few weeks, now how many in Australia where guin laws are some of the strictest in the world? , let me think the last one was a long time ago and was the reason we changed our laws. Your view is the exact view of all americans, and yes you are american, how do you think i picked that?

This is my whole point, americans have had these freedoms for so damn long it is extremely hard for them to understand anything that is different. i think you should quote some of those statistics.

I edited and/or deleted some comments in this news posting. We do not have a legal department and thus one wrong move would sink us.

Fred Derf said,
I edited and/or deleted some comments in this news posting. We do not have a legal department and thus one wrong move would sink us.
Maybe you should have one. I'm sure there are some lawyers on Neowin who'd be willing to help.

Why should they need a legal department for this? What's so hard about not posting a key that could get them sued? Maybe you're one of those Digg users that don't care.

Bloggers vow to fight DRM group.
According to Bloggers the Advanced Access Content System copy protection body, bloggers "crossed the line"
when they published software/music/movies with DRM

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they posted the encryptionn key which by definition of that stupid digital milenium act or whatever it is, posting of informatino that can lead to circumvention of a piracy protection scheme is illegal