E-mail Warnings deter Canadians from Illegal File Sharing

The entertainment and software industries have found an effective tool to deter some Canadians from downloading TV programs, movies, music and software. And it doesn't involve going to court. A number of industry groups, mostly based in the United States, are relying on e-mail to get the message out that peer-to-peer file sharing is illegal. Thousands of the e-mails are being sent to Canadian users each month under a program known as "notice and notice." Major Canadian internet service providers including Rogers, Bell and Telus have voluntarily agreed to distribute the notices to their customers on behalf of the industry associations. Telus forwards an average of 4,000 notices every month.

Stephen Harrington received a notice late last year after downloading a computer game from a bit torrent file-sharing site. (Bit torrent sites are used to share larger files, such as movies.) Harrington wanted to play the game with his friends, liked it, and purchased it a few days later.

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lylesback2 said,
thats why we have demos..

To be honest, I personally find most game demos are pretty poor at demonstrating the full game. As an example, I got a demo of the Sims 2 with my PC Mag which I tried to see what the fuss was about - all you could do was create a 3D character, and change their outfits a little bit. I've seen free Flash games online that do more than that, and this was supposed to be demonstrating a popular commercial game...

People have been put into prison for less...

Just another case of "Its fine when officials does is, but god help us if anyone else does"

bmaher said,
Isnt this basically SPAM on a huge scale...

Why SPAM bad? because a person sending out thousands of emails virtually uses a lot more of ISP's resources than he/she should; plus the inconvinience for the ones who receive it.

This case here is NOT spam, since these companies are ISP's and they own the network; they can choose any means available to them to commuicate with thier customers, including mass emails.

doesn't look like shaw is doing this yet (no emails here yet), all shaw does is complain I have excessive usage at just under 300gigs (up/down) a month. Babies :P

lol ******. if it wasn't for rogers throttling bittorrent traffic, i'd be up there with ya. down with rogers!!!!!!! time to hit up DSL again me thinks.

cooljerk_dv said,
doesn't look like shaw is doing this yet (no emails here yet), all shaw does is complain I have excessive usage at just under 300gigs (up/down) a month. Babies :P

shaw isn't interested in being your father, they're interested in earning your money for the service they provide.

i had a an issue with an mmo not pinging through, so i called both tech supports. game company said it was shaw blocking the ip's, shaw said they don't block any ip ever, that's why people have firewalls.

I don't think any of the smaller ISP's are doing this. I know a guy who works at my local ISP and he's never seen any e-mail regarding piracy or anything of the like.

I've got plenty of these. They're really annoying. I got one for downloading a NoCD crack for Starcraft. I wasn't even downloading the game (I own it), the disc is just really, really old and was starting to give read errors making it impossible for me to play. I also got one once when I was downloading a Linux distro, which makes no sense to me. It seems like they have bots go around and start downloading stuff off of you. If these bots get a file that has a word in it that's on their keyword list they send out an automated email. I got another one while downloading the Linux super gamer liveCD.

geoken said,
I've got plenty of these. They're really annoying. I got one for downloading a NoCD crack for Starcraft. I wasn't even downloading the game (I own it), the disc is just really, really old and was starting to give read errors making it impossible for me to play. I also got one once when I was downloading a Linux distro, which makes no sense to me. It seems like they have bots go around and start downloading stuff off of you. If these bots get a file that has a word in it that's on their keyword list they send out an automated email. I got another one while downloading the Linux super gamer liveCD.

And then of course there are the game companies that block use of the original CD/DVD if you have CD/DVD emulation software installed like Alcohol 120%, like Electronic Arts for example. Just because I use such software I had to download a crack for Black and White, which I legally owned and had in fact just bought. The disk was brand new.

Now getting mailed for downloading a FREE Linux distro? Ridiculous.

Hmmm isn't them mass spam emailing about this more illegal than what there trying to prevent.

I'm sure I read a news article a few days ago that a spammer got 5 years in jail for spamming.

I would laugh if this lot & RIAA would get put in jail for mass spamming

obsolete_power said,
ISP's can't see what you are downloading.....this is complete bull****! They can see that you are using torrents but they cannot see the content!
Yes they can see what your downloading. They know exactly what your doing, from the time you start it, to the time you finish it. The total amount you've uploaded and/or downloaded.

Lol these companies are wasting their time with this stupid movement. File sharing will never be stopped so there is no point trying to stop it.

ahh thank god i don't have to worry about any of this spam crap.. Since none of them are my isp :)

Oh telling people about file sharing is pretty much helping the P2P networks out.. like example: out of them 4,000 notice how many of them didn't even know about file sharing? geez over half of them people who got it might not even knew about it.. So that's just another 2,000 people who joined the P2P network..

I've received many emails from Telus about file sharing. They are just warnings. Still, stopped me from downloading for awhile.

One more reason to stop using Telus as an ISP, Apparently Shaw is the only broadband ISP provider who is noy allowing the RIAA and MPAA to spam their customers.

I know many who got this e-mail and many times over the year, they can't do anything as the laws aren't there to charge us.

It would be many years before anything is done with regards to copying music and movies in Canada. The Canadian Government has better things to do then worry about piracy for personal use. Let me put it to you this way. If you were to drag someone who copied movies into a police station in Canada, and tried to turn them in, the officers would laugh their asses off and arrest you for wasting their time. Hell, even police officers copy movies and music here in Canada. The RIAA and MPAA need to realize they are fighting a losing battle in Canada. Besides, they are "American" (and I mean United States of America) companies. This is why the Canadian Government doesn't give a rat's ass.

By the way, it's funny how this thread turned into a US vs. Canada debate.

except for last sentence i agree.

current federal gov't cares about relations with the states and commercial interests.


changing the rules on fair use to suit overzealous foreign interests to allow those foreign interests to litigate against citizens for sharing that which is difficult they didn't acquire legitimately under the rules of fair use in this country is a waste of their time and not on the agenda.

piracy where someone is reselling the copyrighted material however is prosecutable, and is prosecuted here.

Umm i get thease from Charter in the states on a regular basis, the funny part is i dont even have charter anymore, and the account three refering to is supposed to be OFF!

^^^ This last post has really pulled all the elements of the post together. ISPs, rights issues, Canada-US differences

It's highly humorous that an American says they "don't even have charter anymore," since the Charter is the colloquial term for the Canadian version of the Bill of Rights. I'd certainly agree that the US doesn't have it any more...!

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