EA removes Taliban from Medal of Honor [Updated]

After the U.S. military announced a ban on sales of the game at its bases, Electronic Arts has decided to remove a controversial feature in its forthcoming Medal of Honor title that allowed gamers to play as members of the Taliban.

The video game publisher has recently come under fire from both the families of American soldiers fighting in the Middle East and the U.S. Military for depicting the ongoing conflict in Afghanistan. In a statement on the Medal of Honor website, Greg Goodrich, Executive Producer of Medal of Honor, said the decision to drop the Taliban reference was driven purely by the feedback from friends and families of fallen soldiers.

"In the past few months, we have received feedback from all over the world regarding the multiplayer portion of Medal of Honor. We've received notes from gamers, active military, and friends and family of servicemen and women currently deployed overseas. The majority of this feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. For this, the Medal of Honor team is deeply appreciative.

"This is a very important voice to the Medal of Honor team," he wrote. "This is a voice that has earned the right to be listened to. It is a voice that we care deeply about. Because of this, and because the heartbeat of Medal of Honor has always resided in the reverence for American and Allied soldiers, we have decided to rename the opposing team in Medal of Honor multiplayer from Taliban to Opposing Force."

With just two weeks to street-date, Goodrich said that the decision should not affect gamers. "While this change should not directly affect gamers, as it does not fundamentally alter the gameplay, we are making this change for the men and women serving in the military and for the families of those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice - this franchise will never willfully disrespect, intentionally or otherwise, your memory and service."

Medal of Honor is set to hit store shelves on October 12 in North America, and October 15 in Europe for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC.

Update: Despite Electronic Arts' decision to remove the Taliban from its upcoming shooter, U.S. military base stores around the world will still not sell the game. The Army & Air Force Exchange Service's position concerning the newest Medal of Honor remains unchanged as its facilities have no plans to carry the title.

"Out of respect to those touched by the ongoing, real-life events presented as a game, Exchanges will not be carrying this product," the Army & Air Force Exchange Service's Commander Maj. Gen. Bruce Casella told Kotaku. "While we regret any inconvenience this may cause, our position is consistent with the direction stated a month ago. I expect the military families who are authorized to shop the Exchange are aware, and understanding, of the decision not to carry this particular offering."

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Sad that Governments can control the public in such ways, frankly I wanna hack it now so I can play the Taliban just to **** the Government off.

EA get some balls and let your buyers prove the Governments wrong.

Why don't they just make two versions,...one for the US military with all the restrictions they can wish for and have the full featured Taliban suicidal version for the rest of the world?

LMAO so at the end of all that bitching, the military base still won't sell the item at their stores... LOL!

Like so many of the above posters said... Pathetic that EA caved in and did this...
And now with that update ^ Even though they removed the Taliban from the game, U.S. military base stores still wont carry the game. So what was the point of removing it then? How lame.

Jeepers! People are starting to wake from their slumber - there is hope for the world yet, some of these comments have almost moved me to tears. Well done Neowin for (at last) allowing such freedom of speech. CONGRATULATIONS, and keep it up. Even though the MOST video games tend to encourage immoral behaviour (in the game) it is good to see MOST people here can tell the difference when it comes to real life.

This morning I have a lighter heart!

I've played the Closed & Open Beta's of the PC version and in all honesty the ONLY difference is the name. If these low-wattage cretin's had any clue on what the game was like, they wouldn't stop there. ****, I mean if all these "bitches with skinned knee's" were actually going to play the game, they'd realise that the now "OpFor" is CLEARLY the Taliban.

It's like the football (soccer) game Pro Evolution, for years they have circumvented licensing/copyright laws to include football teams they haven't been able to secure the rights for. They realise that Newcastle United entitled "Tyneside"/Manchester United entitled "Man Red" with the correct colour schemes were still Newcastle and Manchester respectively.

Like many, I have family over there and I really don't care. It was their decision to join the forces. If they die, I'm pretty sure their death will be of more concern to me than the title of the enemy in a video game.

Erm, I remember killing hundreds of U.S. soldiers in CoD: MW2 including an U.S. Army general? No one made a big deal out of it?

I honestly think the US military is overreacting. Requesting that EA put a warning in the game, or even on the box would suffice. Those who don't want to play as the Taliban can read the warning and choose not to buy the game.

0V3RS1GHT said,
I honestly think the US military is overreacting. Requesting that EA put a warning in the game, or even on the box would suffice. Those who don't want to play as the Taliban can read the warning and choose not to buy the game.

Spoke like a intelligent being.
+1

Yeah... seriously though, it is seven letters in the game. Are you really not going to buy a game because they take out SEVEN LETTERS? If you posted something like "not gonna buy now", then you are a ******. If its fun to play its fun to play. Its a game. Get a fother mucking life.

The world is full of crap. Just saw some gameplay footage of the new Duke Nukem, and no one is whining about boobs, sexually explicit content etc. Kill a US soldier in a FAKE game and the whole world in up in arms. If it was taliban killing russians, or vice versa no one would care. Double standard in this Country, all because the troops are fighting a war and part of the US military everyone cares now. If it was the JUST USA vs Taliban, no one would care, how about how they feel? Exactly Americans are Americans, most are shallow and only think about good ol #1.

KickassAMD said,
The world is full of crap. Just saw some gameplay footage of the new Duke Nukem, and no one is whining about boobs, sexually explicit content etc. Kill a US soldier in a FAKE game and the whole world in up in arms. If it was taliban killing russians, or vice versa no one would care. Double standard in this Country, all because the troops are fighting a war and part of the US military everyone cares now. If it was the JUST USA vs Taliban, no one would care, how about how they feel? Exactly Americans are Americans, most are shallow and only think about good ol #1.

+1

So they changed their reason from "Playing the bad guy" to "disrespect to on going real life events"

If thats the case than please ban CNN, FOX, and News Papers from your bases as well. Heck if thats the case why not give up fighting the good fight as it relates to on going real life events. Those seem to be more idealistic things to do instead of banning a "game" title on bases and forcing a company to remove a highly anticipated feature from a game only so you can tell them to fu.ck off even more. I didn't see Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 get banned, yet when this title no longer has the written word "Taliban" on it they still wont allow it?

People need to get a grip on reality, this isn't a war anymore and they're being pulled out of an "invasion" in 2011 anyways..

Overrated patriotism.

Moms of soldiers fighting, go and make some scrambled eggs and stop sending crap letters!

Bulls***

So I can play as a nazi, but not as taliban..... This world is just too stupid for me to be in, but I'm not selfish or stupid enough to get myself out of it....
It's not like if I was playing as the taliban, I would actually be killing a real US solider or anyone else, or that I would actually go, the taliban rules, death to america!!! and mean it.....

shakey said,
So I can play as a nazi, but not as taliban..... This world is just too stupid for me to be in, but I'm not selfish or stupid enough to get myself out of it....
It's not like if I was playing as the taliban, I would actually be killing a real US solider or anyone else, or that I would actually go, the taliban rules, death to america!!! and mean it.....

Actually, if I recall, in all those other games, the opposing team is always called Axis, and never has swastikas for their emblems.

Maybe because it's such a recent war, I'll bet if it was set in Iraq, and you played the Republican Guard, people wouldnt be as ****y. I mean, do you refuse to play WWII games because your Grandad fought in it?

If you're going buy a game that you want, you'd get it, Regardless of the content, You wouldn't buy this new game if you new it had my little ponies as the opposition, And the fans moaning about that, So this decision is really pathetic, If you don't like the fact that you play as the Taliban, Don't buy it, End of! And as for the others who want to, Can buy it, Why EA buckled so easily I do not know.

xXTOKERXx said,
So they took out content that made me want to buy the game

-1 sale here.

Were you really only going to buy the game because the other team in multiplayer was named "Taliban"?

Crap. If EA had published this game 2-3 years later, no problem at all. Like all other games. It's ironic, hypocritical because they decided to send complaints just because the operations against Taliban are currently on going. Which American game doesn't concerns previous operations? Those operations were bloodless?

Please do not misunderstand me. I tottaly respect every dead soldier and I'm extremely sad about. But that's an another subject.

The only thing that could make this better would be to remove all guns and instead of killing bad guys, we could all pat kittens instead. Surely that couldn't offend anybody?

Oh wait, people who dislike kittens might be offended. Lets change patting kittens to sniffing flowers. Oh wait, what if you hate flowers....FFS

Perhaps a more realistic option would be for people to hold their junk up against a mirror to reflect how truly soft it's become. Then you can wait for the 'vocal majority' to give the okay that it's deemed acceptable to get it hard again.

I love the irony that 'offensive content' has been removed to avoid offence. However, those of us who can look past the superfluous catalyst of this 'content' and are capable of seeing the bigger picture and are offended by recognizing yet another attack against the illusion of 'freedom of choice', can remain offended.

So, they removed the Taliban from the game because of fallen US soldiers. What about the innocent Afganistanis and Iraqis that were murdered by US solders?

We all know deep, deep in our hearts that just because there is a media blackout of this subject, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

The only thing they did was change the name of the playable faction in the online mode. Its purely out of respect, and the army cooperated and supported it through its production, until they found out. And it was EAs decision to change it, its not like the game would be scrapped if they didn't.

Damn-it. I am going to reprogram all my Nintendo games so that its a bunch of little Mario's running around getting shot my bigger koopa's. That way it is politcally correct. Why should mario get all the fun?

That's outright censorship. Banned on what grounds? Politically-incorrect? If they fear people would start supporting the Taliban because they play one in a computer game... well they are rather pathetic.

This is similar to Nintendo when Mortal Kombat first came out. They refused to allow the blood, so they changed the color to green. Yep and Nintendo did and didn't see green. For on they saw green with envy as Sega allowed the blood and the game sold in huge numbers, while Nintendo didn't see green as in, they saw low sales of the game.

If you can't do the game right, then don't do it at all. Now teh game isn't even going to sell. You may as well not put it on the shelf.

And for the Taliban-phobics? One day they are going to make games where when you kill the digital character you will actually be killing a real human, what you going to do than? You better hope you aren't on the receiving end. LOSERS!!!!!

If you don't lik eit, than don't like it. STFU and let others have it. Its their choice to have, as is yours to not have. You don't ruin it for everyone. A bunch of selfish losers. if you don't want your family killed by the Taliban, then don't sigh up for the military.

a controversial "feature" in its forthcoming Medal of Honor title that allowed gamers to play as members of the Taliban

Electronic Arts: Pure class.

Taliban = Insurgents (CoD:MW2) = Opposing Force (MoH) - Its still the same whatever they call it. Come on, it's just a game, it doesn't matter what the "other side" is called, its NOT REAL!

As many others have stated, if people insist on a name change so that they can feel "comfortable" in purchasing and playing this game, why do we not go the whole way and do it for every game created? No more "Nazi Zombies" ... you never hear anyone bi***ing about that do you?

After reading some more posts here, I'd be willing to bet some of you belong to the Taliban. Let me guess, 9/11 means nothing to you.

TC17 said,
After reading some more posts here, I'd be willing to bet some of you belong to the Taliban. Let me guess, 9/11 means nothing to you.

No, we're just rational human beings who understand that a story about a a particular conflict should have both sides appropriately labelled. We don't refer to the Nazis as "Opposing European Force" when playing WW2 shooters, why should this be different? Just because it's more recent?

TC17 said,
After reading some more posts here, I'd be willing to bet some of you belong to the Taliban. Let me guess, 9/11 means nothing to you.

It's a game. A GAME. As in, a GAME. Spelled G-A-M-E. Also known as a VIDEO GAME. Aka, a fictional piece of interactive entertainment. AS in, no bearing to the real world. Oh wait, you're probably one of the people who were against the Islamic Recreational Center (Do you see the word "mosque" in there?) even though it's been ten years since it happened. As Intrinsica said, why do WW2 games still use the name Nazis to describe the Germans?

TC17 said,
Let me guess, 9/11 means nothing to you.

It's the day after my birthday. It means hangover to me.

There are a lot of days that have significant meaning to someone. Just because this new threat to our collective freedoms is freshest in our minds doesn't mean we need to give up or give in.

How many grandparents, great grandparents or would-be out there would be absolutely appalled by your enjoyment of the terror they lived through (or didn't)?

Jeez, I can't believe the number of cold hearted people who post on this website. Its sickening.

Oh let me guess, most of you are a member of the Taliban. The last thing we need is kids playing as the Taliban killing Americans.

TC17 said,
Jeez, I can't believe the number of cold hearted people who post on this website. Its sickening.

Oh let me guess, most of you are a member of the Taliban. The last thing we need is kids playing as the Taliban killing Americans.

The game is 18 rated, kids should not be playing it if their parents are responsible.

To the Educated Idiot above me - "Wipe your nose, you sniveling brats, grow some balls." Obviously you are talking about the people complaining - but some of those people are family of fallen servicemen and some are also military personnel themselves. Are you really calling someone in the military a sniveling brat? Who needs to grow some balls? Im pretty sure that if we compared yourself sitting at home playing a game on a television with ANYONE in the military... you wouldn't be HALF the person they were.

Dayam, and I was looking forward to choosing "suicide bomber" class on the Taliban side.

If only protesters would put as much energy into ending the real war.

Its a couple of letters... in a MP version... of a game. Who gives a ****? If you are honestly upset by this you truly do need to find yourself a life.

Wow. How sad. I thought playing as the enemy for a change would add something fresh to an otherwise stale game (franchise). How many times do we have to trod along as goody little two-shoes in a videogame? It just's a game -- fantasy -- after all. There's way too many uptight people with too much power running around these days.

Wipe your nose, you snivelling brats, grow some balls.

Retarded is the fact that there are GAMES that are created to ENTERTAIN based on KILLING.

P.S i have switched off my TV for 2 years now. I have became a better person. My advice, try to do the same. Biggest news is, till i finish this post about 100 newborn kids are dying or already dead because they have NO FOOD TO EAT in the year 2010 ?

Try to help those who are in need instead of spending 40 dollars on Medal of Condom.

=HyperViper= said,
Retarded is the fact that there are GAMES that are created to ENTERTAIN based on KILLING.

P.S i have switched off my TV for 2 years now. I have became a better person. My advice, try to do the same. Biggest news is, till i finish this post about 100 newborn kids are dying or already dead because they have NO FOOD TO EAT in the year 2010 ?

Try to help those who are in need instead of spending 40 dollars on Medal of Condom.

Give me a break.

You are a better person because you have switched off your TV but you still use a computer and Internet

If i had to switch off something to become a better person it would be Internet.

It all boils down to money.. EA doesn't want to lose sales. America as a country is just becoming more and more communist. It's okay for use to cause pain and suffering but god forbid someone can play the opposing force in a stinking video game. Maybe the government has this cocked up idea that if we play as the Taliban we are going to want to go out and start becoming the Taliban?? Blaming video games for ones actions always seem to be a good thing to do simply because blaming ones parents and or the person responsible for said action isn't a clear option.

flashnuke said,
It all boils down to money.. EA doesn't want to lose sales. America as a country is just becoming more and more communist. It's okay for use to cause pain and suffering but god forbid someone can play the opposing force in a stinking video game. Maybe the government has this cocked up idea that if we play as the Taliban we are going to want to go out and start becoming the Taliban?? Blaming video games for ones actions always seem to be a good thing to do simply because blaming ones parents and or the person responsible for said action isn't a clear option.

I think that's over the top.

Now we have to fight the BALI-TRANS in the game, transvestites from Bali, I dont know which is more scary the original premise or the new found image of a transvestite Balinese ... BTW Whats a Hindu?

Lay eggs ....

BeLGaRaTh said,
Now we have to fight the BALI-TRANS in the game, transvestites from Bali, I dont know which is more scary the original premise or the new found image of a transvestite Balinese ... BTW Whats a Hindu?

That.....wasn't really funny. I'm sure it was in your head, though


Lay eggs ....

So its ok to kill the enemy...but heaven forbid the enemy kill us ? Get a grip its a game .... Anyway whats wrong as PLAYING the "bad guy" ?

Legacy-code said,
So its ok to kill the enemy...but heaven forbid the enemy kill us ? Get a grip its a game .... Anyway whats wrong as PLAYING the "bad guy" ?

I agree with the main point you're arguing, but I don't really get the "it's just a game" defence... Does that mean it's ok to have a game where you play as a paedophile?


Lamp0 said,

I agree with the main point you're arguing, but I don't really get the "it's just a game" defence... Does that mean it's ok to have a game where you play as a paedophile?

No, but someone has to play the enemy

ZekeComa said,

No, but someone has to play the enemy

Well actually no they don't. Look at what the game America's Army does; It has each team see the opposing team as terrorists and themselves as the US.

They had let the team play as the Taliban to accurately depict the war in Afghanistan in the context of a competitive multiplayer game. And to give each side it's own personality in that context.

But yea, it's not as if changing the name really changes anything.

So its ok to kill the enemy...but heaven forbid the enemy kill us ? Get a grip its a game .... Anyway whats wrong as PLAYING the "bad guy" ?

I'm with everyone here on the point that whining about a game because you kill Americans under a name we all know is stupid. We played MW2, and I'm sure most of us did the optional mission. Right there, the developers came up with a 5 minute explanation to have Russia invade us, and what was it? Have an American shoot the hell out of civilians in another country. Yet when our military is getting killed for a change, there's an issue? Bullsh**.

There is one thing here that I'm taking an issue with. So many people here are whining about the government. I'd like to point out that a) the government didn't do anything to EA, it was the higher-ups in the ARMY that decided they didn't want the game sold On Their Bases, and b) this wasn't a petition to have the game changed, it wasn't a ban on the game, it was just that they didn't want to have it sold on base. If you bought it outside, what's to stop you bringing it in?
Everyone is saying that this is about the government, when they had nothing to do with it! The complaints filed in from (as someone above said) over 30, 000 civilian people! Compared to our overall population, that is a vastly small number, and it would never have even got that far because no one would have heard about it if it wasn't for the press. This here is a result of our society's own stupidity, that people can't recognize rights and values, and have stopped thinking broadly. Instead, we're all content to have opinions fed into us, and spend the day watching Glen Beck. If people got out and exercised their minds every once in a while, they might be able to see the fact that "Hey, this is a freaking game! It's stupid and hypocritical to get defensive about it, when your kids spend their days virtually massacring foreign families anyhow!" (Oh, and letting 10-year-olds play M games is a WHOLE other issue, but that's for a different time and place).

A small section of society did this, not the government. I'm glad Neowin has people intelligent to realize EA's flaw, but you're still targeting the wrong people here.

There is a gigantic difference here. The OpFor in MW2 is a fictional scenario with a fictional enemy. The Taliban is a real enemy we are still currently fighting.

Even with the play-as-the-Taliban option edited out, the real Taliban could still take the game, modify it so the Taliban are the heroes, and use it as a recruiting tool to get more terrorists.

Aq3e said,
Thanks for making it easier for me to want to pirate this POS rather than buy it now.

If you're pathetic enough to pirate a game that you consider bad, it just goes to show that you have no better ethics and even less of a life. Good job, son.

LiquidSolstice said,

If you're pathetic enough to pirate a game that you consider bad, it just goes to show that you have no better ethics and even less of a life. Good job, son.

I pirate everything. If its good enough, then i purchase it. If not then its erased. Movies and music are an exception, those are alll legit. This game and yourself can suck it.

Aq3e said,

I pirate everything. If its good enough, then i purchase it. If not then its erased. Movies and music are an exception, those are alll legit. This game and yourself can suck it.

Good for you, do you feel proud and warm inside knowing you have a weak-ass justification for pirating? People these days...Holy crap. Have the balls to admit you want stuff for free, stop saying "omg its my right to try it and if i like it I'll pay for it". Does that logic work in a restaurant? Does it? You poor fool .

LiquidSolstice said,

Good for you, do you feel proud and warm inside knowing you have a weak-ass justification for pirating? People these days...Holy crap. Have the balls to admit you want stuff for free, stop saying "omg its my right to try it and if i like it I'll pay for it". Does that logic work in a restaurant? Does it? You poor fool .

Actually, you can try items in some places. next....

You wouldn't think it was pathetic a game if you lost a loved one in the war. Sometimes just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.
As far as not selling games to military people, the men and women who protect our country need some down time too. The are under high pressure and need to be able to unwind and relax with some fun entertainment just like everyone else.
I think being considerate of a sensitive situation is warranted in this case.
Just say'in!
-PK

Paul_Chevyman said,
You wouldn't think it was pathetic a game if you lost a loved one in the war. Sometimes just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.
As far as not selling games to military people, the men and women who protect our country need some down time too. The are under high pressure and need to be able to unwind and relax with some fun entertainment just like everyone else.
I think being considerate of a sensitive situation is warranted in this case.
Just say'in!
-PK

What about the Vets from WWII when the entire CoD Franchise came out? What about Americas Army which is developed by the United States Army which holds the title of "Insurgents" that look identical to the Taliban, but in this single case a particular group is labeled as "Taliban" and the family's think they can play the "my son fights for your freedom" card.. I'm pretty sure that freedom was fought and won over 300 years ago, they're more so fighting for others so called freedom..

I'm tired of hearing that card as if it means they're better than the rest of us.. Give it a break.. They fight wars, no matter who its for or for what cause.. Heck I pay their salary and sign up bonuses, which is 70% of the reason why people even join the armed services in the first place.

Morphine-X said,

What about the Vets from WWII when the entire CoD Franchise came out? What about Americas Army which is developed by the United States Army which holds the title of "Insurgents" that look identical to the Taliban, but in this single case a particular group is labeled as "Taliban" and the family's think they can play the "my son fights for your freedom" card.. I'm pretty sure that freedom was fought and won over 300 years ago, they're more so fighting for others so called freedom..

I'm tired of hearing that card as if it means they're better than the rest of us.. Give it a break.. They fight wars, no matter who its for or for what cause.. Heck I pay their salary and sign up bonuses, which is 70% of the reason why people even join the armed services in the first place.

+1 An inconvenient truth is the fact that the draft is no longer in place. Our soldiers, heros that they may be, were not forced into war by the US Gov. Unlike in previous wars, where 18 y.o. kids from across the country were thrust into conflict. Today's military is comprised of folks who actively sought out the job, and signed on the dotted line. I find it disingenuous to even afford todays troops the same sympathy as the 18 y.o. farm kid from BFE who left everything behind to fight in Vietnam whether he wanted to or not. PPL want to be up in arms about being insensitive to our troops, yet no one wants to talk about how grossly underfunded the VA is and has been since it's inception. I think the wounded troops who aren't receiving adequate care now that they are home are probably thinking more about that than some damn game. And as for the families? You don't get to say what your fallen hero would have wanted. Having a dead relative doesn't make you Nostradomus so they all need to STFU.

What the 'F'
Well remove cars from 'need for speed' too .....
they kill more people every year then taliban.
Damn cars.

fizman said,
What the 'F'
Well remove cars from 'need for speed' too .....
they kill more people every year then taliban.
Damn cars.

+1

So supid changing the name doesnt change anything but they shouldnt be caving in simple solution just dont sell video games on millary bases I mean surely they have something more important to do like fight a real war?

Bemani Dog said,
Somebody should write up a Top Ten of the dumbest video game ideas in history. And making the Taliban playable in Medal of Honor should be right up there.

+ 1

Bemani Dog said,
Somebody should write up a Top Ten of the dumbest video game ideas in history. And making the Taliban playable in Medal of Honor should be right up there.

Why is that? What do you call the OpFor in MW2?

I'd argue that changing the name to "opposing force" is more disrespectful than keeping them as "Taliban." It makes no difference though, I will refer to them as Taliban if I get this.

This would be like taking out the terrorists from counter strike so only the counter terrorists win. Though if the defense forces overseas have time to cry over a game that allows you to play as the Taliban, makes you wonder if they're actually doing anything in the first place.

So the just rename it to opposing force but in the game they still look like taliban? How stupid is that ... Anyway no matter how it is called, you still can play the other side as well. There is indeed nothing that changes for the gamer expect for the name. I don't care how they are called cause I will waste them anyway

So what exactly did they do? Just rename the name to something else? From many comments above I thought entire contents was removed, however I can't find anything in the article about that.

I'd actually like to play as Taliban even though I am a US Marine. It would be an interesting POV.
Doesn't mean I do not like my country or my servicemen and servicewoman, its a damn video game. But the same people here saying you you should be allowed to play as the Taliban and it is hippocritical for us to whine about that, are the same people saying we don't have a right to burn a Koran (granted there was uproar over that in other countries, I don't know how many people were killed because of even the idea of it happening).
Heres a good comparison:
If you can play Taliban in this game,
Then you should be allowed to play a Nazi soldier in a WWII game.

See the relation?

I'm A Mac....freedom of expression is the issue here...being forced into being politically correct is the problem. sure..if this would somehow endanger the lives of our soldiers out there then i would definitely be against it. war is not what you call pretty and i don't feel the government and American media should force these false perspectives on their audience.

Windows7even said,
I'm A Mac....freedom of expression is the issue here...being forced into being politically correct is the problem. sure..if this would somehow endanger the lives of our soldiers out there then i would definitely be against it. war is not what you call pretty and i don't feel the government and American media should force these false perspectives on their audience.

lol MAC and freedom of expression two biggest jokes!!!!

let all make a game where we kills 1000000 jews, and then see if half you want it banned!!! ALL EA is doing is respecting other people views on this. sure its a game, but get over it.... who care what the name says..... What matters is what something is, not what it is called....

lflashl said,
let all make a game where we kills 1000000 jews, and then see if half you want it banned!!! ALL EA is doing is respecting other people views on this. sure its a game, but get over it.... who care what the name says..... What matters is what something is, not what it is called....

and why not? this whole controversy is just stupid - it's all based on the argumentum ad odium fallacy meaning there's no logical grounds to it

i wouldn't mind playing a game where the player kills jews; nor would i mind playing a game where the player kills american soldiers or talibans. there's no good or bad side in a war.

I only wish people would start using their brains before speaking rather than letting their emotions take control as in a world where things are decided on an emotional basis, things are screwed up. if the us military or their families think they might get offended, they shouldn't play the f-ing game. why ruin the experience for others?

jbonello said,
there's no good or bad side in a war.

You heard it here first everyone, Hitler and the Nazi regime weren't bad guys after all and the terrorists, why they're just fine folks.

TRC said,

You heard it here first everyone, Hitler and the Nazi regime weren't bad guys after all and the terrorists, why they're just fine folks.

You could say that your cultural values are inconsistent with Hitler and the Nazi regime's values and that you don't like them and so forth; but who are you to call them bad? Do you hold any authority to decide who's doing the right thing or not? There is no such thing as good and evil. It's just a matter of perspective. i'm sure that had the second world war ended with a different result, it's the allies who would have been depicted as the bad guys.

By this I am in no way justifying any one side or another as I have no authority nor right to do so - i'm just saying that one needs to look at a matter from different points of view.

jbonello said,

You could say that your cultural values are inconsistent with Hitler and the Nazi regime's values and that you don't like them and so forth; but who are you to call them bad?

wow.

jbonello said,

You could say that your cultural values are inconsistent with Hitler and the Nazi regime's values and that you don't like them and so forth; but who are you to call them bad? Do you hold any authority to decide who's doing the right thing or not? There is no such thing as good and evil. It's just a matter of perspective. i'm sure that had the second world war ended with a different result, it's the allies who would have been depicted as the bad guys.

By this I am in no way justifying any one side or another as I have no authority nor right to do so - i'm just saying that one needs to look at a matter from different points of view.

WTF!!!

TRC said,

You heard it here first everyone, Hitler and the Nazi regime weren't bad guys after all and the terrorists, why they're just fine folks.

Ah. Right. The American version of world history. Where everytime we win a war, it's because the other side was terrible and deserved it. Yeah I know, Holocaust and all that, not denying it happened, but to assume there is a "good" side in a war is a bit naive.

jbonello said,

You could say that your cultural values are inconsistent with Hitler and the Nazi regime's values and that you don't like them and so forth; but who are you to call them bad? Do you hold any authority to decide who's doing the right thing or not? There is no such thing as good and evil. It's just a matter of perspective. i'm sure that had the second world war ended with a different result, it's the allies who would have been depicted as the bad guys.

By this I am in no way justifying any one side or another as I have no authority nor right to do so - i'm just saying that one needs to look at a matter from different points of view.

Let me get this straight. There is no good or evil, just depends on how you look at it. Alright, let me ask you this. Let's just say for example I don't have a high 60" Flat LCD TV on my wall, but you do. So since I want one really bad and I know you have plenty of money, then it is perfectly ok for me to waltz into your house and take yours...right?

How about this. Maybe its only ok to steal food, if you have a starving family at home. Sure the circumstances may be dire, but stealing is still a crime. Or maybe I am just a naval officer who has been on a boat full of men for 10 years, so when I see a women; it must be perfectly ok to force her to have sex with me...right?
I mean it isn't rape right? It just depends on how you look at it.
Are you just stupid? Please tell me you have a mental problem so i can excuse what you said. because if you consider yourself sane and you made that statement, it simply proves that people who claim to be the smartest, really aren't.

Is anyone really surprised? If the stock value is threatened, a change is necessary. If it isn't, huh.. what?

Wow thats ****ing stupid. The US Military would sprout up and say this yet they DEVELOPED a game called Americas Army that allows you to play online as the "Insurgents" which looks identical to Taliban and your able to fight again US Soldiers, but widows and family's have a problem when someone else does it??

Complete ****ing bull**** in anyone out there that cant get their mind out of the fact its only a video game. As much as someone has the right to speak their mind I believe they also have the right to express their creativity. I guess in the end its all about the sales number. EA believes doing this will make those angry voices happy but at the same time **** us gamers off.. In the end whos the one that would have actually bought the game in the first place? House Widows/Familys or those gamers. Don't get me wrong I've got family/friends in the service plus laid to rest and I still don't see the big issue about it..

Coming from an American. Very nice. You don't like America why don't you leave? Oh wait thats right you need your welfare check.

LJGoose said,
Coming from an American. Very nice. You don't like America why don't you leave? Oh wait thats right you need your welfare check.

What does a welfare check have to do with the taliban? did they take yours?

LJGoose said,
Coming from an American. Very nice. You don't like America why don't you leave? Oh wait thats right you need your welfare check.
what does a welfare check have to do with references to the Taliban being removed from a video game?

LJGoose said,
Coming from an American. Very nice. You don't like America why don't you leave? Oh wait thats right you need your welfare check.

Oh. Right. That's excellent logic. A, thanks for the nice bit of disguised racism/social-classism, B, what I do in a video game doesn't constitute how I feel in real life. If you've got patriotism so high up your rear that you let it spill over into all the other aspects of your life, maybe you shouldn't be playing games to begin with?

Yeah because the playing the Taliban is the worst that happening in regards to the "real" war. Never mind that American military personnel are in Afghanistan killing civilians for sport, cutting off and keeping body parts, and posing with dead bodies. But, cry me a frakking river about pretend killing US troops. Americans are such hypocrites. It's fine for you to play at killing the Taliban but not the other way round because every knows that only American lives are important...and only American families care about their loved ones that die on the battlefield.

waldenasta said,
Yeah because the playing the Taliban is the worst that happening in regards to the "real" war. Never mind that American military personnel are in Afghanistan killing civilians for sport, cutting off and keeping body parts, and posing with dead bodies. But, cry me a frakking river about pretend killing US troops. Americans are such hypocrites. It's fine for you to play at killing the Taliban but not the other way round because every knows that only American lives are important...and only American families care about their loved ones that die on the battlefield.

I think I lost a few IQ point just by reading that idiotic post.

TRC said,

I think I lost a few IQ point just by reading that idiotic post.

You must not have had much of an IQ to start with. That's the problem with this country, most of you have stopped using your critical thinking skills. I said it before and I will say it again. America went to Iraq and Afghanistan and murdered God know how many civilians in an illegal war and now have the nerve to want to take some kind of moral stand in regards to a stupid game, get real!

waldenasta said,

You must not have had much of an IQ to start with. That's the problem with this country, most of you have stopped using your critical thinking skills. I said it before and I will say it again. America went to Iraq and Afghanistan and murdered God know how many civilians in an illegal war and now have the nerve to want to take some kind of moral stand in regards to a stupid game, get real!

Illegal? Really? By who's laws?

waldenasta said,

You must not have had much of an IQ to start with. That's the problem with this country, most of you have stopped using your critical thinking skills. I said it before and I will say it again. America went to Iraq and Afghanistan and murdered God know how many civilians in an illegal war and now have the nerve to want to take some kind of moral stand in regards to a stupid game, get real!

I agree. Let's look back at how the war started. I wonder how a few guys who lived in a mountain were about to hijack 4 plans and crash them. Using nothing but box cutters. Oh yeah, and the so-called plane that crashed into the pentegon managed to do so with no damage to the windows. There wasn't even a real fire. Look in the sots. There is a desk in the pictures where the wall was gone but nothing was even burned on the desk. The computer was still in tact not even melted. And that has to be the first plane crash of that size where there was no wings, no engine, no tail section, no luggage and no people. Yet the Space Shuttle blew up on reentry and the piece fell 90,000FT to the ground which would have cause even more damage to them and yet they recovered a tail section, and engine and even some body parts. Oh and tp be even more clever, a plane crashes in an open field. Again no luggage, no body parts, no plane parts. Yet again, we have video of 2 planes crashing into WTC. We can see how much damage they can do. Yet there was no other similar at the Pentagon or in the field? Or how about the fact, fire has NEVR destroyed a skyscraper made for steel and reinforced concrete. And how did WTC7 fall when it had only a few fires and the foundation wasn't compromised. And lastly, they all fell cleanly into their own footprint? But none of these same people were up in arms about teh events of 9/11. How about this FACT!!!! Previous and since 9/11, any errant aircraft that flies in restricted airspace is met by at least 2 F-16's. Before and after 9/11, they had/have a 100% interception rate. Yet on 9/11 4 planes flew errant for at least 1 hour and was met by no F-16's. Why si no one saying anything. What about eye-witness testimoney. Bombs going off as soon as the planes hit. The subway blew up from explosives used to blow the foundations of the building to weaken them. What about the building as they fell you can see explosions going off as the floors were being blown up. Explain how a section of steal the size of a car, manage to get blown into a building that was more than 500FT away and get entombed in the building face as if it was thrown there by a Gail force wind.

Yet I see no one marching outside the Pentagon trying to ge answers about 9/11, but you all stand up over a stupid ass game? WTF is wrong with you people.

I'm with you man, these loons are just that.

TechieXP said,

I agree. Let's look back at how the war started. I wonder how a few guys who lived in a mountain were about to hijack 4 plans and crash them. Using nothing but box cutters. Oh yeah...

Great post, which deserves a compliment. Sticking to good facts, not allowing the detractions of the less acceptable (to most) hypothesis'. Solve the above "mystery", then go after those who have covered up the lies of the events of 9/11. Congratulations my friend!

Lame. Pre-order cancelled for this one.

Not that I wanted to be the taliban, I just don't want to support a game with weak willed developers.

-T- said,
Lame. Pre-order cancelled for this one.

Not that I wanted to be the taliban, I just don't want to support a game with weak willed developers.

Ah. Because the name of a faction in the game determines solely whether or not the game is good.

LiquidSolstice said,

Ah. Because the name of a faction in the game determines solely whether or not the game is good.

No. The fact they removed the Taliban from the game, due to complaints, proves the developers of weak-willed, in the eyes if -T-, and he doesn't wish to support a game developed by such weak-willed people.

That is what his post said; it mentioned nothing about the quality of the game because it's a matter of principle, not whether the game is good or not.

Calum said,

No. The fact they removed the Taliban from the game, due to complaints, proves the developers of weak-willed, in the eyes if -T-, and he doesn't wish to support a game developed by such .

Apparently a company trying to maintain a good reputation and not lose any customers is weak willed. Crazy isn't it, game companies worrying about silly things like offending their customers or their bottom line. Selling games should be all about making political statements, not making money right?

Calum said,

No. The fact they removed the Taliban from the game, due to complaints, proves the developers of weak-willed, in the eyes if -T-, and he doesn't wish to support a game developed by such weak-willed people.

That is what his post said; it mentioned nothing about the quality of the game because it's a matter of principle, not whether the game is good or not.

Or I could play the game, and enjoy it as a combination of many different developers talents, and not be so weak-minded myself to not purchase it based on what one person decided for the sake of stock holder shares. Yeesh . Go ahead and don't buy it, the rest of the people, like me, who don't care for such things, will still buy it anyway, it's not like they're going to suffer.

I can understand how people affected by this woul be upset however, this is not THE taliban. they also do not ban games like call of duty for killing germans. So what? are we saying that germans are ok to kill but not the taliban because we are offended?

Of course no one in germany is offended at all by the fact that we go around massacring Nazi zombies, I guess if they but in taliban zombies it would be ok.

There is no social level any more, we are not equal. we seem to be dictated by what the US Govt seems appropriate, surprisingly (or rather not surprisingly) there is plenty of mention about US servicemen/women in the article but none from the coalition forces and peace keeping forces in there, what about the British, Australian and New Zealanders serving overseas?

Edit: Nevermind, I clearly have no idea what I'm on about again....nothing to see here move alone!

Edited by Xerxes, Oct 3 2010, 10:35am :

This is dispicable. The 'politically correct' crowd are often too ridiculous and this is an example. What is wrong with people creating games relating to current affairs?

somehow i found this is not surprising. The US government always have this double standards when it comes to their enemies...It's OK for them to use all sort of media exposure to spread their propaganda but if some one else / the other side is doing the same thing is not OK....some freedom of choice US have..

christb said,
somehow i found this is not surprising. The US government always have this double standards when it comes to their enemies...It's OK for them to use all sort of media exposure to spread their propaganda but if some one else / the other side is doing the same thing is not OK....some freedom of choice US have..

wut does the government have to do with this?

Brent1700 said,

wut does the government have to do with this?

he's just defining the army as an appendage of the government as a whole

Guys while I AGREE that they shouldn't of ******* out, haven't the military + 38;963 bitchy people at that wasn't easy either.

They "had" to make these immature dumbasses happy. I don't like it. Neither do you guys but oh well.

In the end its a ****ing game and we are STILL
KILLING the Taliban and not "the opposing force"

FusionOpz said,
Well it is Medal Of Honor not Medal of Cowards.
Because clearly being in the Taliban takes absolute cowardice.

I'm sorry, but I think the coward cards you're placing are being put on the wrong end of the table.
It takes balls to take on a country with nuclear capabilities with nothing but IEDs and a handful of AK47s. Call them religious fanatics, even maybe misguided fanatics, but they're still incredibly brave.

Being ex-military this sickens me. While I never had the chance to go fight our enemies abroad it makes me sick of how liberalised and "politically correct" this country is becoming. Seriously instead of jumping on a games back why don't these people band together for the First Responders bill or the many other things in this country that are being screwed up.

P.S: I have actually asked many people about this including friends who have been over in Afghanistan and even a friend who lost his brother over there. They all say the same thing.

However it is what is and I will of course still be getting this game. EA / MOH Devs do not give up so fast in the future. It is your work and you are entitled to sell it how you want. Freedom that is what makes this country great.

LJGoose said,
Being ex-military this sickens me. While I never had the chance to go fight our enemies abroad it makes me sick of how liberalised and "politically correct" this country is becoming. Seriously instead of jumping on a games back why don't these people band together for the First Responders bill or the many other things in this country that are being screwed up.

P.S: I have actually asked many people about this including friends who have been over in Afghanistan and even a friend who lost his brother over there. They all say the same thing.

However it is what is and I will of course still be getting this game. EA / MOH Devs do not give up so fast in the future. It is your work and you are entitled to sell it how you want. Freedom that is what makes this country great.

thank god for level headed people like you. i know it may seem mean to show the taliban killing or play the taliban in the game. but people like being the bad guy since the dawn of time. they like it. cops and robbers, like someone else said!

What is so "liberal" about this? It sounds really conservative to me...which the US seems to be falling deeply into the past decade.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I actually see it as disrespectful towards soldiers too.
Just fighting insurgence X in country Y-istan.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Good! I hate any type of shooting/violence games (Just pointless), and adding something like they did, just horrible.

people have killed since their existence. they always have and always will. this is life, not ideal.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Good! I hate any type of shooting/violence games (Just pointless), and adding something like they did, just horrible.

I don't know what's more sad, the fact that people are so up in arms about taliban existing in a game, or that you're basically celebrating it's removal despite the fact that you'll never play this game or any other like it. Proud victory, I'm sure.

WICKO said,

I don't know what's more sad, the fact that people are so up in arms about taliban existing in a game, or that you're basically celebrating it's removal despite the fact that you'll never play this game or any other like it. Proud victory, I'm sure.

I'v played all sorts of games, from COD to whatever the names of the others were round friends... Can't say they were great... Got bored and found them pointless. Each game is just the same, just changed and rebranded.

TechDudeGeorge said,

I'v played all sorts of games, from COD to whatever the names of the others were round friends... Can't say they were great... Got bored and found them pointless. Each game is just the same, just changed and rebranded.

So it's fine to have a game with Wehrmacht in it but not the Taliban?

Lucas said,
It's just a game. Lets go ahead and ban movies where you can see the talibans killing americans.

+1

Lucas said,
It's just a game. Lets go ahead and ban movies where you can see the talibans killing americans.

+1

Lucas said,
It's just a game. Lets go ahead and ban movies where you can see the talibans killing americans.
Why stop there. Ban every game and movie where Americans are under attack by Russians, Nazis,...

Plain stupid move by EA.

lflashl said,
i understand from the people that have had there family member killed by these people...

If that's the case why do they spend money buying war games, didn't they have enough with war already?
They should spend their time pushing the government for a cease fire and avoiding more young men to be sent to die, it's better to have them at home with a PS3.

lflashl said,
i understand from the people that have had there family member killed by these people...

and people in Iraq/Afghanistan had their family members killed by US soldiers. What is your point? Are you saying it is OK for one side to do so and not the other?

lflashl said,
i understand from the people that have had there family member killed by these people...
No it's crap. People need to realise its a game, a form of entertainment and that people can enjoy that and still feel sympathy for those that have lost their lives there.

People die from all sorts of things. Should we discourage racing games because someone died when someone was speeding? What about games with swords etc given people have been maimed and killed by these weapons too. Hell what about the fact that theres probably people living in the US that had relatives on the other side that were killed by US forces and noone seems to care you can play the US and kill hundreds of taliban in the single player campaign.

People need to grow up and stop being so precious. Sure, a certain level of respect is nice but it's not like this game has gone out of its way to emotionally wound those that have lost loved ones and if people are going to be so self righteous about it perhaps the US forces shouldn't be named in respect to the people they themselves have also killed.

lflashl said,
i understand from the people that have had there family member killed by these people...

You and those people need to focus your efforts on getting those service men and women out of those places that we will never win.

66 Americans died in Afghanistan in July of this year. I would bet 100% of the thousands of lives that were touched by those 66 Americans that were killed would rather their LOST loved ones were at home playing MOH on October 12th.

Smigit said,
No it's crap. People need to realise its a game, a form of entertainment and that people can enjoy that and still feel sympathy for those that have lost their lives there.

People die from all sorts of things. Should we discourage racing games because someone died when someone was speeding? What about games with swords etc given people have been maimed and killed by these weapons too. Hell what about the fact that theres probably people living in the US that had relatives on the other side that were killed by US forces and noone seems to care you can play the US and kill hundreds of taliban in the single player campaign.

People need to grow up and stop being so precious. Sure, a certain level of respect is nice but it's not like this game has gone out of its way to emotionally wound those that have lost loved ones and if people are going to be so self righteous about it perhaps the US forces shouldn't be named in respect to the people they themselves have also killed.

I agree 100%. First off I am very proud that there are young men/women who voluteered to be offer up as a sacrifice for our country. However, this is going way to far. It's a game. If you were so worried about your family getting killed, you should have told thwm not to sign up. Its a war, and in most wars people die.

I Personally don't like RAP music. But I am not one who is going to go crazy crying to take it off the radio or TV. if a song comes on I don't like, I change the station. If you don't liek the game, don't buy it. You don't ruin it for everyone else.

Why don't you losers get up in arms about the war period. It is an illegal war anyways. Why not be bitchin to stop the war period.

Its a game. Even tho I personally don't like games like this, there are people who do. So let them ruin their minds with it. The characters are still there. Just because you don't call them Taliban doesn't mean anything. I can still pretend can't I?

These are the kind of people I wish would go to war and get on the front line. So you all can be the first to go. It is EA's right to depict in the game as true to life as possible. If I want to be shooting Taliban in the game, so be it.

Alphanumeric said,

Yeah I agree. It is only a game after all.

Wow I wasn't expecting that from a game developer. Especially from one that has lost so much popularity already.

sidroc said,
Pathetic....Absolutely pathetic that EA caved in.

Anyone else see the irony in all of this? Troops are fighting the taliban (among others) and that freedom results in a few loud mouths complaining and the content is removed...so much for freedom.

sidroc said,
Pathetic....Absolutely pathetic that EA caved in.

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

Then don't play them.

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

Then do not play them, does someone come to your house and force you to play the game on a daily basis? If you do not like the content then just do not by the game and do not play it.

I remember someone from EA (or somewhere, was in one of Neowin's articles regarding the Taliban EA isssue) saying that "When you played Cops and Robbers when you were a kid, someone got to play the good guy, but there always had to be someone playing the bad guy".

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

I DO have (had) family there. I don't care.

Leroy Jethro Gibbs said,

Then don't play them.

Exactly. It is bull**** to expect everyone to tiptoe around other people's feelings. Someone is always offended by something, it is pretty much inevitable. People need to learn to ignore stuff like this if it bothers them, you know, as a mature adult would.

Elessar said,

Anyone else see the irony in all of this? Troops are fighting the taliban (among others) and that freedom results in a few loud mouths complaining and the content is removed...so much for freedom.

Anybody else see the irony in this post? You are saying de jure censorship = freedom.
What about the Taliban who are fighting for their cause in which they believe? The game should represent both sides equally, and not be biased towards a particular one. That is the whole point of a realistic game.

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.


i do have family fighting out there and i talked to them all 3 said it's bull**** EA caved like a bunch of *******

Absolutely pathetic! I suppose it never occurred to those butt-hurt Americans with dead relatives that their loved on was out there fighting and doing his darn best to try and take the lifes of other families loved ones. Afghanistan did not come to your loved ones, they went to Afghanistan.

Since we are already going down this road then why not show the same courtesy to Afgan talibans who are fighting against the invasion and occupation of their homeland by foreign nations led United States of America. It is disgusting how Free speech is only OK when it non-Americans that are being digitally being killed.

Anyway, what does this change really? The players will still be allowed to "kill" U.S. soldiers?

sidroc said,
Pathetic....Absolutely pathetic that EA caved in.

i would say the HELL with all those people that where against it. it's a damn game for christ sake.

everyone gets WAYYYYY to 'offended' nowadays over fairly petty stuff most of the time.

TechDudeGeorge said,
So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

Ya like all those 'russians-are-the-bad-guys' movies holywood produced...
be serious, its a game not the apocalypse

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

If I had family membergs fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan I would be OUTRAGED at the US goverment for sending them IRAQ at all and OUTRAGED at at them for keeping them in Afghanistan for so effing long.

I could care less who or what is digitally portrayed in a VIDEO GAME. Perspective is a word you need to look up.

sidroc said,
Pathetic....Absolutely pathetic that EA caved in.

so i guess i f we contact one taliban family member and convice them to complain, we can get EA to remove the marines too?

3dfxman said,

Stupid Whiners, it's just a damn game, get over it.

Sadly, money also speaks for the game developers. It's all about capitalism, its getting sick for me already (seeing capitalism everywhere, everyday)

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

As an active serving member, I'm able to distinguish between real life and video games.

TechDudeGeorge said,

So if you had a family member fighting out there, would you want to see everyone playing people trying to kill them. I wouldn't... This is one of the reasons that I hate ALL the shooter style games like this + COD.

Oh boo hoo, go cry in a corner... Seriously this is the reason EA has to do this, all the whinny babies in the world. Your family member(s) who are in the military KNEW of the possibility (after all it is the military!?!?!) that they could be getting shot at, or in a war, big deal they signed up for this. I dont see the satanic peeps coming out of the wood work complaining about Doom saying "lets not kill zombies, it hurts their feelings!"

chago12 said,

so i guess i f we contact one taliban family member and convice them to complain, we can get EA to remove the marines too?

You sir have THE QUOTE OF THE MONTH!!! That is the problem with Americans, most of us only think about ourselves and how things affect us, and how we feel etc. Not how it affects other people etc. If there was no Talibans killing Americas no one could care less.

Ah America... Such a great country our Soldiers lay their lives on the line to protect.

sidroc said,
Pathetic....Absolutely pathetic that EA caved in.

It's articles like these that get my blood boiling, why should game developers bow down to politicians. I think EA should have done the same as COD MW #2 and put a splash screen in before playing the game and let the gamer decide on what centent should be in the game.