Every Windows Phone now receiving Mango update

It's a feat no less than impressive. Microsoft announced today that the Dell Venue Pro is now receiving the Windows Phone 7 Mango update via Zune. What they didn't announce, is that the release on that device marks all devices being officially updated to Windows Phone Mango.

The only other Mobile OS developer that's been able to do a similar feat of strength is Apple, however they're only pushing the software to devices they've made, making the success of the Windows Phone rollout even more impressive.

Despite the victory, it wasn't without problems. Mango began rolling out back in September but some of the devices had issues, with the 1.3 revision of the Samsung Focus being pulled from the updates until just last week, and those with Dell Venue Pro devices having to wait until today.

So where to from here? Microsoft has confirmed they are working on the successor to Mango for emerging markets to be released next year, but we're yet to actually see real evidence of it. Can Microsoft catch up to the iPhone? Maybe. Stay tuned.

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I personally love how Android randomly resets itself back to factory clearing out all those pesky contacts, emails, and text messages. Then I get to download all the apps I had installed again... except this time some won't work cause my version of android isn't the newest available... just the newest available for my phone. I like when it does this overnight and I wake up to my backup alarm going off, and I find a phone that's completely empty with a new fresh feeling.

Did I mention my backup alarm is my HD2 w/ WP7 on it. Android is a craptier OS and I'll never buy another "google phone" again.

ndoggfromhell said,
I personally love how Android randomly resets itself back to factory clearing out all those pesky contacts, emails, and text messages. Then I get to download all the apps I had installed again... except this time some won't work cause my version of android isn't the newest available... just the newest available for my phone. I like when it does this overnight and I wake up to my backup alarm going off, and I find a phone that's completely empty with a new fresh feeling.

Did I mention my backup alarm is my HD2 w/ WP7 on it. Android is a craptier OS and I'll never buy another "google phone" again.

I had one windows mobile, one BlackBerry, some Symbian and 3 androids, none removed my contacts (but I should say in your favor that I usually removes pesky contacts myself), none deleted my alarms (not as every iPhone in the world every new year) and none reseted to factory itself.

Be aware, maybe your sciphone 4s, Nokla N95 or Nesus S are not what you think they are.

Be happy, my troll.

Suck it up Fandroids, MS has now joined the Apple bandwagon and is now actually SUPPORTING their phones. I realize this has a lot to do with carriers and phone manuf but it seems if Apple and MS can push updates to all their devices and have *gasp* a lifecycle of 2 years or more Google should be able to do it, I mean come on its so OPEN it should be easy =P.

I realize im being partial here but my god, android fanboys are WORSE than iSheep. You never admit the huge weakness that android fragmentation is. I can admit many of the flaws of iOS and WP7 but at least Apple and MS release updates to their devices. My iOS devices are rock solid and I'd rather wait for a stable feature release for iOS than have it on my Droid X thats stuck at 2.3 and runs like garbage compared to my 3GS.

zeroomegazx said,
Suck it up Fandroids, MS has now joined the Apple bandwagon and is now actually SUPPORTING their phones. I realize this has a lot to do with carriers and phone manuf but it seems if Apple and MS can push updates to all their devices and have *gasp* a lifecycle of 2 years or more Google should be able to do it, I mean come on its so OPEN it should be easy =P.

I realize im being partial here but my god, android fanboys are WORSE than iSheep. You never admit the huge weakness that android fragmentation is. I can admit many of the flaws of iOS and WP7 but at least Apple and MS release updates to their devices. My iOS devices are rock solid and I'd rather wait for a stable feature release for iOS than have it on my Droid X thats stuck at 2.3 and runs like garbage compared to my 3GS.

Microsoft never, never in his history mantained a lifecycle of 2 or more year updates on phones.

Did u see HD2, Xperia X2, Omnia, HD Mini, Aspen and a lot more that I don't remember running Mango? NO.

Did u know for sure that every phone will be updated to next WindowsPhone version? U can say YES! Microsoft said.

Do u remember the Microsoft Press 18 months ago talking about Phones? Phones that has now no support and seems no one remeber. KIN.
http://www.neowin.net/news/pin...system-expected-this-summer

Pepeda said,
Did u see HD2, Xperia X2, Omnia, HD Mini, Aspen and a lot more that I don't remember running Mango? NO.

When ever did Microsoft say, that "Windows Mobile" devices will get "Windows Phone 7"? Name the source that gave you the impression that they ever intended to release WP7 for any of the devices you just mentioned!

Pepeda said,

Microsoft never, never in his history mantained a lifecycle of 2 or more year updates on phones.

Did u see HD2, Xperia X2, Omnia, HD Mini, Aspen and a lot more that I don't remember running Mango? NO.

Did u know for sure that every phone will be updated to next WindowsPhone version? U can say YES! Microsoft said.

Do u remember the Microsoft Press 18 months ago talking about Phones? Phones that has now no support and seems no one remeber. KIN.
http://www.neowin.net/news/pin...system-expected-this-summer

Windows Phones have chassis specs that those phones don't have. Don't even get me started on the processors that are in them either, the Omnia only has a 624MHz processor, minimum spec for Windows Phone is 1GHz.

Not only that Windows Phone is as far removed from Windows Mobile as possible, built from the ground up instead.

The current WP devices all have the same hardware, that's why it's easy to update them all. The same SOC's, screen resolutions, memory etc. Once the hardware specs start changing, you'll get fragmentation and less likelihood of all phones getting updates.

You only have to look at the sheer array of different hardware available for Android to realise that it's impossible for Google to guarantee that every device will work. Windows Phone doesn't have this problem because there's very little variety in devices offered at the moment.

Joey S said,
The current WP devices all have the same hardware, that's why it's easy to update them all. The same SOC's, screen resolutions, memory etc. Once the hardware specs start changing, you'll get fragmentation and less likelihood of all phones getting updates.

You only have to look at the sheer array of different hardware available for Android to realise that it's impossible for Google to guarantee that every device will work. Windows Phone doesn't have this problem because there's very little variety in devices offered at the moment.


You're soo right! That must be the reason why they never managed to update Windows on every PC connected to Windows Update throughout all these years. They always had to deal with problems caused by different CPUs, memory, resolutions, etc. /s

Why would *every* Windows Phone get the upgrade? Surely there are a lot of older/cheaper phones with lowend hardware that won't run the upgraded Windows Phone well, like any OS and computer.

Angel Blue01 said,
Why would *every* Windows Phone get the upgrade? Surely there are a lot of older/cheaper phones with lowend hardware that won't run the upgraded Windows Phone well, like any OS and computer.

WP7 has a minimum hardware specification…

Please fix the article. "with the 1.3 revision of the Samsung Focus" should be "with the 1.4 revision of the Samsung Focus". The 1.4 version is what had the issues, not 1.3. 1.4 is always behind because Samsung changed the hardware.

had htc mozart since feb, had pre nodo update, nodo, post nodo, mango, htc update, and post mango yesterday. this is great compared to android

zikalify said,
had htc mozart since feb, had pre nodo update, nodo, post nodo, mango, htc update, and post mango yesterday. this is great compared to android

Till now, Microsoft updated all phones to a new version, till now, one version, one year support.

I can put some samples for Android:
Nexus One has received 2 large updates (2.1 to 2.2 and 2.3) and a dozen of minor updates in 22 months, and will not upgrade to 4.0
Galaxy S has received 2 large updates (2.1 to 2.2 and 2.3) and some minor updates in 18 months, and maybe will be upgraded to 4.0.
Sony Xperia X10 received 2 large updates (1.6, 2.0/2.1 and 2.3) and some minor updates in 20 months, and maybe will be upgraded to 4.0.

U can say, for sure, that there are a bunch of phones that received only one large update, and for sure there are some phones that has received no updates, never.

In a year from now, if your phone keeps being updated with new versions, I will say, everyone will say that WindowsPhone keeps phones updated more time than Android, but say this now....

Right NOW, every Mobile OS that Microsoft created before Windows Phone, (KIN and Windows Mobile), has a bad story of No-Updates and No-Support.

Pepeda said,

Right NOW, every Mobile OS that Microsoft created before Windows Phone, (KIN and Windows Mobile), has a bad story of No-Updates and No-Support.

Correct. That changed in October 2010 with the release of Windows Phone.

Owen W said,

Correct. That changed in October 2010 with the release of Windows Phone.

I really think that Microsoft changed, but don't like opinions that said Microsoft is much better than others with one update in one year.

Let time put every Company in his place, and maybe in a year some facts will be true, but not now, yet.

iPhone much better Has a great software lifespan, a 3GS might be considered old but its strong enough to run ios5 or ios5.0.1.

shadodemon said,
iPhone much better Has a great software lifespan, a 3GS might be considered old but its strong enough to run ios5 or ios5.0.1.

But is also missing software features that the new devices are given. Windows Phone updates thus far give the same software advances to all devices.

TheDisneyMagic said,

But is also missing software features that the new devices are given. Windows Phone updates thus far give the same software advances to all devices.

Yeah, my iPhone 3G had iOS 4 in version number only. It only had about half the features iOS 4 was supposed to provide. Of course, the phone was agonizingly slow after the iOS 3 and 4 updates, so I see why they chose to cripple the feature set.

This post does not mention that Dell Venue Pro owners on T-Mobile's network received the Mango update the week Mango was released. This update was held up as a result of AT&T.

the device manufactureres are to blame for this, and they seem to quickly abandon a phone as soon as they push out a new model. i've rooted my galaxy s, and i think i've prolonged it's lifespan further by doing so. still a great phone, but sadly lacking when it comes to official support from samsung.

flexkeyboard said,
poor fandroid, google doesn't care about them

Its the device manufacturer's fault for not providing updates, Google has nothing to do with this problem.

yowan said,

Its the device manufacturer's fault for not providing updates, Google has nothing to do with this problem.

While I do agree, perhaps more pressure has come from Microsoft to get all their phones updated.

Perhaps Google should say all phones which come with v4 android should have a life cycle of at least 3 updates which needs to be completed within 12 months of the update being released by Google.

Mr Spoon said,

While I do agree, perhaps more pressure has come from Microsoft to get all their phones updated.

Perhaps Google should say all phones which come with v4 android should have a life cycle of at least 3 updates which needs to be completed within 12 months of the update being released by Google.

This is neither the faul of Microsoft or Dell. The Mango updat was issued for Dell Venue Pro owners on T-Mobile back in September. This release is for those on AT&T's network.

yowan said,
Its the device manufacturer's fault for not providing updates, Google has nothing to do with this problem.
This has everything to do with Google. Google mandates requirements for the big manufacturers when it negotiates the non-open source applications--like Google Maps--appearing on the Android devices. They could easily require manufacturers to provide a certain number of updates post release.

Instead, you can buy a phone and get screwed with just a single, minor update while every other ecosystem keeps it going for 2-3 major releases.

It has yet to be seen whether the original lineup of WP7 phones will receive WP8 (expected Fall 2012), and I would be just as bothered if they were not supported. I doubt that Microsoft will make that play, considering that their main line of attack against Android is fragmentation, but they still could. But they will have received two minor updates (NoDo and, later, Tango) and one major update (Mango). That's a lot more than most non-Nexus Android phones can say.

Now, the manufacturers are ultimately to blame because they could do this out of the goodness of their hearts, but they are in the business to sell hardware. It's crap to expect someone to buy a phone, and then only update it for a single year when the company knows that the contract is for two years. But, Google has seen that the manufacturers are unwilling to do it on their own, so Google is to blame for allowing it to continue.