Download Internet Explorer 8 Final

The long awaited final version of Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 final has gone live. Before we get into detail about changes, here are the download links:

Windows XP
Windows XP 64 Bit
Windows Vista
Windows Vista 64 Bit
Windows Server 2003
Windows Server 2003 64 Bit
Windows Server 2008
Windows Server 2008 64 Bit

Upon installation I can say that the final version is a lot more stable than the Release Candidate that was released a few months ago. No noticeable changes as of yet, as this release focuses on the core features and functionality of Internet Explorer 8.

Unfortunately there is no version for Windows 7 being released today. Moments ago Dean Hachamovitch, general manager of Internet Explorer, just announced the availability of the final version at the MIX 09 Day 2 keynote session. You can watch the keynote session live, here.

Update: To announce the release of Internet Explorer 8, Microsoft is revisiting the best and worst of the web. From the days of dial-up to dancing hamsters. From bleeding GIFS to pointless status updates. Watch it here: "The History of the Internet"

In addition to the video above, which is not able to be embeded, Microsoft has released a video detailing our exact thoughts on Internet Explorer 8's performance. Check it out:


IE8 Performance

Update: Microsoft releases statement regarding IE8 for Windows 7 users:

"We're sorry, but you won't be able to download Internet Explorer 8 for Windows 7 Beta at this timeWindows 7 Beta already includes a pre-release candidate version of Internet Explorer 8 that is optimized for that release. Windows 7 enables unique features and functionality in Internet Explorer 8 including Windows Touch and Jump Lists which require additional product tests to ensure we are providing the best Windows experience for our customers. We will continue to update the version of Internet Explorer 8 running on Windows 7 as the development cycles of Windows 7 progress and plan to include the final version of Internet Explorer 8 in the release candidate version of Windows 7 later this year. "

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1 instance for each tab plus a parent instance. so if one tab crashes it doesn't take down the whole browser and the tab will usually recover itself. Chrome operates that way as well. For IE it's called LCIE (Loosely Coupled IE). Wiki away.

IE8 is constantly crashing for me, oh well.

Also, any reason IE8 opens multiple instances of itself? With 1 tab open I have 2 instances each taking up 16MB. Then with 2 tabs I get 3 instances, each 16MB.

To anyone experiencing slowdowns to IE windows, tabs, Outlook Express, or Vista/XP after installing IE8 (if you haven't noticed my other comments regarding this), this is most likely why:

# re: Internet Explorer 8 Final Available Now
Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:35 PM by Howard
@EricLaw[MSFT] - you were just quoted as saying:

"The Spybot issue is in-fact new to the final version of IE8. It is related to a change in the zones list handling logic. We're looking into ways to address this issue, but for now, the best bet is to simply disable the immunization feature."

Let me get this straight. You are telling users NOT to use the best damn protection available on the market against drive-by sites that only IE suffers from security holes with? Un-!@#$ing-Believable! I can't believe you just told users to disable Spybot because IE RTM isn't Ready for Market.

Nice one! Please remove your foot before responding!
# re: Internet Explorer 8 Final Available Now
Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:49 PM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Howard: Firstly, please notice that I did not suggest that users "disable Spybot" but rather that they not use the "Immunize" feature.

The immunization feature offered by SpyBot is not required to browse safely with Internet Explorer 8. IE8 includes more reliable protections against malicious sites, including per-site ActiveX, ActiveX opt-in, DEP/NX, Protected Mode, and SmartScreen Filter.

Blocking a static list of sites using Zones is fundamentally a losing game, because (as phishers have demonstrated for years) attackers can simply deliver malicious attacks from new domains or IP addresses.

I like I.E. 8 in some ways. However, one of the most annoying things is the time it takes to open a web page. When I open a new page it just sits there and thinks about it for a few seconds before finally giving me what I want. Once the page opens, it loads the site itself much quicker than I.E. 7. I've already mentioned how even running I.E. 8 from click to open is a bit sluggish compared to it predecessor.

One thing that really puzzles me, is the fact that it has effected Vista somehow. I mentioned before that some things load slower than they did prior to the install of this browser. One thing is opening the screen saver applet. Just as there is this lengthy pause in opening web sites, Vista has areas where there is this same sort of pause before loading the program. This was not an issue previous to the install. I used to click on "screen saver" under "personalize" and have it pop right up.

I'm a little ticked about this effect on my rigs performance.

Are you using Spybot immunizations? I'm happy to report that deimmunizing (as per suggestions in the comments of the Release post on the IE Blog) fixed MY load-time issues for IE windows and tabs in the Final. Of course seeing as they weren't a problem in the RC I'm hoping that a fix will come out soon; I feel naked without my immunizations.

Why yes, I am/was using spybot immunizations. Just as in your case, de- immunizing completely solved the issue. What is strange with this, is the fact that the issues with Vista are gone as well. I don't understand that one at all. It now takes one second to open the screen saver applet, when it was taking around 5.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me with this.

P.S.

Can you give me the link to the blog you are referring to?

Glad it worked!

Here's a link one of the people making the Spybot conclusion:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/03/1...ow.aspx#9494957

Also Eric Law (MSFT) responded to one of the first people who brought it up:

@Donna: We have determined that there is a problem with the SpyBot Search and Destroy "innoculate" feature which puts 10000 domains in the restricted sites list.
*** It's possible that this might be causing the performance problems on startup that some folks are reporting here. ***

Clearly it shouldn't matter how many domains are in the hosts file/restricted sites list, so it's a bug that cropped up between RC and Final and they'll have to fix it at some point I'm sure.

Another thing to check for people experiencing really slow loading on IE8 is the amount of entries in the Restrcited Sites list.
(Have you used IE-SPYAD?)

And maybe try to disable Spybot or SpywareBlaster protection.

Did anyone else have the problem where the download is saved to your hard disk without the .exe extension? It saved as "IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU". On one machine I chose "Run" and of course it asked me what program to open it up with... Lame!

Hmm. Does build 7057 come wit the RTM since in the Product ID it doesnt say beta or RC, It sais "Product ID: 01402-321-7001042-70776". So is this the RTM?

Something doesn't seem right -- not sure if its my machine or IE 8 but external links within forums and links that open up in new windows do not work... at all! No popup blocked error nothing...

spacer said,
Way to not update the incredibly terrible UI from IE7 Microsoft. Good job!

/sarcasm

Im used to ie7's interface now, i dont mind it anymore. when it first came out i complained bitterly though :P
IE8 is an inprovement in someway,s but in others its a step back. besides the slowness, i hate things like the "TURN ON SUGGESTED SITES" button under my favorites. I DONT WANT SUGGESTED SITES! leave me alone! lol if its not fixed this week (the slowness) im rolling back to 7.

I'm using it, and it does seem better. The interface looks a little cleaner, less bubbly but still with the polished look to it. I like the fact that you can blog and email stuff just by right clicking it, and pages do seem to load quicker, which is really noticable for me because I'm on garbage internet right now. So far, IE8 seems very stable, faster than IE7 and with a more polished looking default theme.

Since I installed IE8, Explorer is too unstable and is crashing a lot (see pics below). Also, after installing it, each folder has started to open in a different window. I have tried to reset this under tools/folder options but it didn't fix the problem.

Is there any way to uninstall.... this thing?

Fortunately, here at work, I've only installed in my computer *sigh*

This is really ****ing me off!!...

What's up with the new Favorites bar? I cant move it to the Menu bar anymore..
In IE7 i had the menu items, and the Links on the same toolbar...
Maybe this 'Add to favorites' icon makes the toolbar so big, it can't be moved to anywere... :(

Also, dragging a link to the address bar or to the non-active tab does not work :(

And finally, opening new Tab is indeed kind of slow

Well, its faster but still has a nasty little delay (it shows Connecting... and then switches to blank) Same thing with IE7.
Firefox somehow manages to show the new tab instantly.

pinTero said,
Well, its faster but still has a nasty little delay (it shows Connecting... and then switches to blank) Same thing with IE7.
Firefox somehow manages to show the new tab instantly.

IE7 was instant for me, ie8 = big fail though, like what you're talkign about. Must be some kind of weird network setting maybe? 3 seconds to load a blank page is rediculous

From IE Blog comments:

"I am going to back up other people who have said Spybot Search & Destroy Immunization is to blame for this.

I undid Immunization and IE8 is fast again :D

So I still think its IE8 itself as I was using Spybot and its immunization with IE8 RC and it was unaffected, but Final is."

Is Spybot on your system? I can verify that the above is true for me. Everything was fast and normal again once I deimmunized... of course, as stated above, this slowdown only started once IE8 went Final.. with the RC there were no such problems. Can you pass that on to make sure someone's looking into it Brandon?

Not so good experience here. IE 8 64-bit version crashed (something to do with BEX64) when I tried to surf. Also, not sure if this is entirely relevant, but my WMP 11 64bit is also unusable.

Uninstalled IE 8, above problems disappear.

Oh well, back to FF then......

on vista x64 with IE8 rc1 v 18372

installed the final version just dl'd from the site gives me:

Setup cannot continue because a more recent version of Internet Explorer has been detected on this computer

Anybody any clue?

ill update just to keep IE at the newest release etc although i dont think ill really use IE8 anytime soon because Firefox has been my primary browser since it was a little prior to v1.0.

it's extensions (i.e. Tabscroller/AdBlock Plus etc) are what makes it really stand out from stuff like IE.

Well..... let me start by saying that I was (and now still am) a happy IE 7 user, so...... I downloaded IE 8 thinking it would be great..... WRONG !!!
I went to my business website which I had looked up previously with Windows 7 beta using IE 8 and no problems, I installed IE 8 under XP and all the problems in the world !!!
Every time I clicked on the icon to make page look OK bang went my Norton IS "Phishing protection", which I then switched back on, lo when I got out of the that view...yes you guessed it OFF went the "phishing protection" once again.
No I am happier with IE7 and I have tried "Firefox" and don't like it either ! Both of my kids do, but I don't.
What the hell do I do now ?????????

Its pretty obvious.

- Disable Norton's phishing protection feature
- Learn how to develop websites, since it appears you developed only for IE instead of the rest of the browsers.
- You shoot yourself for using IE 7 as your main browser.

Then, after all of that, you can go buy yourself a beer for no longer being a pain in the butt to society for having upgraded to a decent browser.

scoult01 said,
* wonders how many of the pro IE posts in here are made by PROFESSIONALweb developers... probably none *


I still dislike IE. but I will say that Microsoft has gone out of their way this time around to adhere to web standards.

scoult01 said,
* wonders how many of the pro IE posts in here are made by PROFESSIONALweb developers... probably none *


Me, I do it for a living...no one codes specifically for Fire Fox or Safari because they arent what 90% of people who visit websites use. Fire Fox is close enough to IE it doesn't really matter.

Tech Greek said,
Me, I do it for a living...no one codes specifically for Fire Fox or Safari because they arent what 90% of people who visit websites use. Fire Fox is close enough to IE it doesn't really matter.

Of course no one codes specifically for any browser, you code for standards. Then you fix all the **** ups that are made thanks to IE's rather horrible rendering engine.

Angry: They have done a bit towards following standards, however we'll still be dealing with IE6 for several years to come (thank you corporate!), and for that, I'll never forgive them :P

Tech Greek said,
Me, I do it for a living...no one codes specifically for Fire Fox or Safari because they arent what 90% of people who visit websites use. Fire Fox is close enough to IE it doesn't really matter.

Just to dispel what is now a myth.
It's a far cry from 90% these days and dropping fast, businesses need to realize that, or suffer in the future.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/firefox-ma...rid=0&sample=28

Microsoft Internet Explorer 67.44%
Firefox 21.77%
Safari 8.02%
Chrome 1.15%
Opera 0.71%

scoult01 said,
* wonders how many of the pro IE posts in here are made by PROFESSIONALweb developers... probably none *


You know there is a category called consumers. Consumers will probably like IE8. I do.

yakumo said,
Just to dispel what is now a myth.
It's a far cry from 90% these days and dropping fast, businesses need to realize that, or suffer in the future.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/firefox-ma...rid=0&sample=28

Microsoft Internet Explorer 67.44%
Firefox 21.77%
Safari 8.02%
Chrome 1.15%
Opera 0.71%


Talking from my own experience, if a website does not work in Chrome, I just open IE. Nothing has suffered because of me....yet.

I'm sick and tired of constantly going into an IE forum and having to filter through the comments to see peoples actual opinions of it due to all the firefox lovers filling the page.

If you don't like it then keep your opinions and comments to yourself and let the rest of us go about our business instead of filling the page with your rubbish.

indiansboy94 said,
Is there seriously no spell checker?


I'm not seeing one in this release. No wonder it's faster.

indiansboy94 said,
Is there seriously no spell checker?

Thats what IEpro is for... but yeah, they should have included one already, even download managers have those nowadays :P

Well, there is IE7Pro, or you could just learn to spell? Constant checking does not fix the problem of actually knowing how to spell something.

Any one else with a problem with "Get More Add-ons"? When you click on the add-ons "Add to Internet Explorer" button it comes up with "This feature requires Internet Explorer 8...."

Nevermind I know what it is, it's IE7Pro sending a non-standard user agent string.

Seems fast and stable so far, a noticable improvement of the RC which had some stablilty problems on this laptop.

Hi guys,

Yeppers! I.E. 8 is bit faster and snazzier than I.E. 7. It takes some getting used to since there are some cosmetic changes. Nothing major!

One thing about it that bugs me though, is there seems to be a longer delay in the loading process of I.E 8, vs. I.E. 7. Also, and this is even more annoying, is when I open some other programs that have nothing to do with the browser at all, they load about two to three seconds slower. For instance, when you open the screen saver program under personalize, what used to take about one to two seconds to open, now takes a bit longer.

Again, nothing major.. It is there, none the less, and it makes me wonder why. It is as if I.E. 8 is hindering Vista performance in some ways. I have confirmed these issues on two machines..

Anyone else?

BB

biggerbyte said,
Hi guys,

Yeppers! I.E. 8 is bit faster and snazzier than I.E. 7. It takes some getting used to since there are some cosmetic changes. Nothing major!

One thing about it that bugs me though, is there seems to be a longer delay in the loading process of I.E 8, vs. I.E. 7. Also, and this is even more annoying, is when I open some other programs that have nothing to do with the browser at all, they load about two to three seconds slower. For instance, when you open the screen saver program under personalize, what used to take about one to two seconds to open, now takes a bit longer.

Again, nothing major.. It is there, none the less, and it makes me wonder why. It is as if I.E. 8 is hindering Vista performance in some ways. I have confirmed these issues on two machines..

Anyone else?

BB

Very slow program open/first tab open for me in vista.

Can someone let me know if a Stand Alone version is available somewhere?
I've got 7 working nicely standing alone, alongside 6... need 8!
(I need IE6 installed natively for testing IE6 Print CSS Layouts (Printing doesn't work with stand-alone IEs))

hotdog963al said,
Can someone let me know if a Stand Alone version is available somewhere?
I've got 7 working nicely standing alone, alongside 6... need 8!
(I need IE6 installed natively for testing IE6 Print CSS Layouts (Printing doesn't work with stand-alone IEs))


microsoft offers a free windows xp virtual machine download to test different ie versions, you can find it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details...&displaylang=en

I'm so disappointed. While I like it's features, scrolling is incredibly choppy on this old computer. Until I downgrade to IE7 I'll just have to use chrome.

I've used this in windows 7 and loved it however the only time i will move completely to it, from firefox, is when an adblock plugin/addon/program is created which does exactly what adblock plus does. If and when thats created (and works like adblock plus) i will move...other than that, I'll stick with FF. It still matches IE's load time without any of the crap-ads-everywhere loading.

but good stuff. Seems that Microsoft is learning about their consumers rather than dictating what we as the consumers should do :).

+1

I do have them disabled, but that wasn't the issue, as the menu was fine in InPrivate mode. Turns out it was the IE7Pro add-on that was causing it. Disabling that caused the "All Accelerators" option to show up properly.

Long and short is that this comes nowhere near competing with firefox and chrome. It's really a shame they wasted YEARS and came out with what we have now. I definitely think this will aid in other browser continuing their uphill climb, for sure.

3-4 years till IE 9 seems about right. By that point i'm sure firefox/chrome/something new will be dominating unless they release ie 8 R2 and streamlines the feel of it a bit more and FAST.

Have you been under a rock? Years? They finished this in a little over 1 year since IE7. Nothing like 3-4. IE9 will come in another year from now.

IE8 is also working great for me and other people. It seems the majority of those sticking with FF can't live without addons.

Vista 64-bit using IE8 64-bit seems to crash everytime I visit www.news.google.com Is this happening with anyone else? 32-bit IE8 seems fine.

Worked fine for me. Using the 64bit version about 90% of the time now.
Only use the 32bit if theres a flash I want to see.

just checked it out:

1. Web standards are still distant mirage
2. Not that fast as said in the video.
3. Some sites render with the ie7 engine

neoraptor said,
just checked it out:

1. Web standards are still distant mirage
2. Not that fast as said in the video.
3. Some sites render with the ie7 engine

At least it can do the Acid 2 right, finally...

Re 3. Sites can explicitly request to be rendered in IE7 mode so IE8 doesn't break them. That's not exactly something to whinge about, something to cheer about though. They introduce significantly better standards support, whilst maintaining backwards compatibility.

IE8 crashes on pages with flash like nobody's business. But there is a fix. In the list of addons there is something called gflash. Disabling that solves the crashing problem. Internet options > Programs > Manage addons.

On my XP Pro SP3 install, it starts up very slowly, but then it seems to be just fine except on some pages that make use of Adobe Flash extensively. No crash though...

I'm sticking with Firefox 3.0.7 since it is still faster, and I like making use of all of my add-ons. Actually, now might be a good time for me to finally check out Fx 3.1/3.5...and never go back.

Okay now I must be the only person on the planet that IE8 would not work for. I followed the installation instructions, pages will not load, the pages hang.

Any suggestions?

Internet Explorer 8 seems really slow on my computer. It takes more than 5 seconds if I'm switching to a tab that's been loading in the background, if the page is loading on the active tab the window freezes and my computer has been loading non-stop since it installed.

Works fine here. Try uninstalling flash completely (http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/uninstall_flash_player.exe) and reinstall the latest version (http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/).

Installed IE8. Nice but not good enough to leave firefox although firefox is noticeably slower. Can't do without my addons.

sweetsam said,
Installed IE8. Nice but not good enough to leave firefox although firefox is noticeably slower. Can't do without my addons.

Same here, can't live without FF add-ons. It's what make FF better, you can personalize your browser to just the way you like it with add-ons. I just wanna give IE8 a try to see if it has some must-have features that FF lacks, but then again there's probably an add-on for whatever it is lacking.

Where's OSX version? :)

In Win7, I couldn't login to my bank site with IE8, not even in compatibility mode. I had to install FF. Lets hope this final version is better.

mayamaniac said,
Where's OSX version? :)

In Win7, I couldn't login to my bank site with IE8, not even in compatibility mode. I had to install FF. Lets hope this final version is better.


probably more the banks fault, site checking for ie version or using ie6-7 hacks than microsoft faults. Have you tried contacting them about it?

Hmm? Can't edit my post above already.

Installed it. Rebooted. Fire up my brand new IE8. Crash!!
(snipped) Glad I bookmarked that link on how to remove this thing!!

Actually,
I'm going to try this a LITTLE longer. See how it acts on my other 5 machines. Maybe!!

Instant crashing when trying the browser test here, http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/index.php.

Already very doubtful if this thing makes it onto any of my other machines.

Is it just me, or is the slowest loading browser in the history of browsers?!!

Edit:
Final word on this thing. It's gone. Crashed 5 times since first post 1 hour ago!!
Back to that crappy IE7.

I may have to go through all my machines and reinstall my copy of Windows XP Pro with IE6 still on it. These last 2 versions of IE suck, IMO!!

Will be sticking with Seamonkey,, K-Meleon and SRWare Iron!!

cork1958 said,
Instant crashing when trying the browser test here, http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/index.php.

Already very doubtful if this thing makes it onto any of my other machines.

Is it just me, or is the slowest loading browser in the history of browsers?!!

Edit:
Final word on this thing. It's gone. Crashed 5 times since first post 1 hour ago!!
Back to that crappy IE7.

I may have to go through all my machines and reinstall my copy of Windows XP Pro with IE6 still on it. These last 2 versions of IE suck, IMO!!

Will be sticking with Seamonkey,, K-Meleon and SRWare Iron!!


none of the tests on that site crashed ie8 (or ie7 for that matter) you must have a botched install

XerXis said,


none of the tests on that site crashed ie8 (or ie7 for that matter) you must have a botched install


Well,
If it was a botched install, that's another fault of Microsofts. ALL my machines run and are setup perfectly.

Test results
â€Â¢ Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption - passed
â€Â¢ Internet Explorer bait & switch race condition - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption - passed
â€Â¢ Internet Explorer createTextRange arbitrary code execution - passed
â€Â¢ Windows MDAC ADODB ActiveX control invalid length - passed
â€Â¢ Adobe Flash Player video file parsing integer overflow - passed
â€Â¢ XMLDOM substringData() heap overflow - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.5) - passed
â€Â¢ Opera JavaScript invalid pointer arbitrary code execution - passed
â€Â¢ Apple QuickTime MOV file JVTCompEncodeFrame heap overflow - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla code execution via QuickTime Media-link files - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.8) - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla memory corruption vulnerabilities (rv:1.8.1.10) - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla crashes with evidence of memory corruption (rv:1.8.1.12) - passed
â€Â¢ Apple QuickTime 'QTPlugin.ocx' ActiveX Control Multiple Buffer Overflows - passed
â€Â¢ Window location property cross-domain scripting - passed
â€Â¢ Mozilla Firefox MathML integer overflow - passed
â€Â¢ Internet Explorer XML nested SPAN elements memory corruption - passed


Ran all 18 tests on the "all browsers" option with 0 crashes, 0 failures. Did you vLite your Vista install?

It's funny how there are a few people who manage to have massive problems over and over on their installs while the vast majority of other users run the same software without any problems.

And you wanna blame MS? It seems like you've screwed something up.

It's VERY difficult to crash IE 8. Even if you crash the tab process, it will just restart where it left off since the frame runs independently.

Just installed it; everything is great so far. I was using the RC1 build of IE8 for a while, and the new Final seems even faster. Completely smokes FF3.1, Opera 9.64, & Chrome IMO (and I love Opera & have come to rather like Chrome lately).

I'm quite interested to see what Opera 10 & Chrome bring to the table next to compete.

I came. I installed. I switched back to firefox.

It's a bit slower, and rendering is still iffy. Also there's no addon and theming support.

s3n4te said,
I came. I installed. I switched back to firefox.

It's a bit slower, and rendering is still iffy. Also there's no addon and theming support.

QFT I went back to Firefox due to ad block support, it butchered my Twitter login...

s3n4te said,
Also there's no addon and theming support.

Those "features" have absolutely no bearing on how a browser performs so they have no relevance. Those are preferences that a great majority of browser users do not care about. This comes from a FF user.

Installed and went back to chrome. I really dont understand how people can use firefox after using chrome. On my machine which is far from high end, it runs 2-3 times faster. Loading, rendering, everything across the board.

IEPro gives you adblock and other things, and should work just fine in IE8.

Whoever said it doesn't have addon support is clueless.

Firefox 3.1's page rendering performance is a bit faster for me, but Firefox suffers from a handful of random UI slowdowns and lagging.

Why link to direct files when there's a perfectly good Microsoft Downloads page with all the languages and platforms?

Windows XP 32-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123828
Windows XP 64-bit and Windows Server 2003 SP2 64-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123828
Windows Server 2003 SP2: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123824
Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123821
Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 64-bit: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123823

WTF my urls are GREY! I hate it.

I can't read my address bar.

I spent time and money making my URLs look nice.

MS is taking away the branding / feel of my site.

Does this annoy anyone else?

sambeckett said,
WTF my urls are GREY! I hate it.

I can't read my address bar.

I spent time and money making my URLs look nice.

MS is taking away the branding / feel of my site.

Does this annoy anyone else?


uh get use to it, everyone will eventually be doing that, its so the domain is highlighted to the user so phishers dont try to trick people

I don't think people really pay much attention to the URLs as you think they do. They're still quite readable, even though they are a bit grayed out.

soldier1st said,
Thnx but i will stick to Opera thank you.

Hey, that's your choice. I'm sticking with my Firefox, but I have to admit that IE8 is very nice. The download and install took less time than it does to go from boot to complete log-on (all apps loaded) in Windows XP! IE8 is definitely a step forward in the right direction. ^_^

Great. Finally i get my IE8 updated.

Im using IE8 as my main browser, cause i simply love it.
I even uninstalled Maxthon (was too buggy) and im using all available browsers somehow, but IE8 is my main.

Usually il take Firefox 3 for playing flash movies (youtube...) and Chrome Portable for javascript heavy sites (as Firefox is simply too slow in certain cases) i also have Opera etc...
Why only use one if youre able to switch if needed to get the best expirience :)

Jay i love updating my apps ^^

Great, but "Exclusive"???? What does that signify -
nobody but Neowin readers allowed to use these links??
nobody but Neowin allowed to publish these links??
Or what meaning is intended? Come on, the word is totally inappropriate here.

You're just late to the party. At the time of the posting the direct links were available here and it was before noon.

gb8080 said,
Great, but "Exclusive"???? What does that signify -
nobody but Neowin readers allowed to use these links??
nobody but Neowin allowed to publish these links??
Or what meaning is intended? Come on, the word is totally inappropriate here.


Every major media outlet uses the word "Exclusive" when they have something that is "exclusive" to report. We've done it for years, and so have many many other news organizations.

GreyWolfSC said,
You're just late to the party. At the time of the posting the direct links were available here and it was before noon. :)


The website was available slightly before the article though...

I thought Exclusive was kind of odd too, not a big deal though. I am just glad to have IE8.

Sean Bradford said,
Every major media outlet uses the word "Exclusive" when they have something that is "exclusive" to report. We've done it for years, and so have many many other news organizations. :)


Sure, and so Wikipedia says
"In journalism, exclusive can refer to information provided to or available from only one news outlet, such as an interview or photograph."

Neowin may have been the FIRST to post the links (hurrah!), but they aren't "exclusive" links - not copyright to Neowin, every other news outlet can post them too (also hurrah!).
Sorry to quibble :-) it's just that the word gets misused. As Intelman says, not a big deal. I'm posting this using IE8, downloaded via Neowin link, and very happy to be able to do so.

gb8080 said,
Sure, and so Wikipedia says
"In journalism, exclusive can refer to information provided to or available from only one news outlet, such as an interview or photograph."

Neowin may have been the FIRST to post the links (hurrah!), but they aren't "exclusive" links - not copyright to Neowin, every other news outlet can post them too (also hurrah!).
Sorry to quibble :-) it's just that the word gets misused. As Intelman says, not a big deal. I'm posting this using IE8, downloaded via Neowin link, and very happy to be able to do so.

I would have to agree with gb8080 on this kind of nit-picking. Exclusive means something specific. If you use a word for everything it loses its meaning, and become a non-sense word.

Sean Bradford: Then you could say "Exclusive" at the beginning of every article posted on Neowin.

gb8080 said,
Sure, and so Wikipedia says
"In journalism, exclusive can refer to information provided to or available from only one news outlet, such as an interview or photograph."

Neowin may have been the FIRST to post the links (hurrah!), but they aren't "exclusive" links - not copyright to Neowin, every other news outlet can post them too (also hurrah!).
Sorry to quibble :-) it's just that the word gets misused. As Intelman says, not a big deal. I'm posting this using IE8, downloaded via Neowin link, and very happy to be able to do so.


Yes, every other news outlet can post these links, but we posted them first. Therefore, it was an exclusive at that time!

Shadrack said,


I would have to agree with gb8080 on this kind of nit-picking. Exclusive means something specific. If you use a word for everything it loses its meaning, and become a non-sense word.

Sean Bradford: Then you could say "Exclusive" at the beginning of every article posted on Neowin.


That is incorrect, and every media outlet will agree. Online journalist use the term exclusive when they are the first outlet to provide the bit of information that is being released. It does not mean that it is copyright to that site, but they were the first ones to use it. A few examples:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/21/exclu...-their-own-ads/
http://technews.am/conversations/techcrunc...alm_pre_webinar
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-10030134-46.html
http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/...-for-iphone.ars
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/01...le-red-360s.ars

I need not say more.

Sorry Sean but I really can't agree - "exclusive" carries with it the right to exclude. So you will naturally be first, but there can't be any second because nobody else can legitimately use the same material! Newspapers and celeb gossip magazines carry exclusive interviews when they pay the interviewee for the story and for a promise not to talk to another rival paper.

Sorry to sound like a pedant (coz I AM a pedant!), but the fact that many media outlets nowadays misuse the word is really irritating. There was a time a while back when two computer magazines both splashed "Exclusive demo of ..." --- and exactly the same demo program was on both their covermount CDs! This is just misleading the consumer - the implication of "exclusive" was "buy my magazine because it is the only place you will get this demo". And it was completely false.

"Exclusive" doesn't mean "first". On this peculiar definition, does the article stop being "exclusive" once a second source comes on line? A few minutes later?

The fact that some other journalists misuse the expression, sometimes egregiously, doesn't make it right! I need not say more!

I've yet to see a date for availability on WSUS, does anyone know this yet?

There is an updated .adm file in the installer for group policies.

After pressing Ctrl+T in IE8, i have to wait for about 2 secs before the new tab opens... Anyone noticed this too?

RmG said,
After pressing Ctrl+T in IE8, i have to wait for about 2 secs before the new tab opens... Anyone noticed this too?


Working flawlessly here.

RmG said,
After pressing Ctrl+T in IE8, i have to wait for about 2 secs before the new tab opens... Anyone noticed this too?


Go to Tools>Internet Options>General Tab

There go to Tabs>Settings>When a new Tab is opened,Select the option Open a Blank Page

rakeshishere said,
Go to Tools>Internet Options>General Tab

There go to Tabs>Settings>When a new Tab is opened,Select the option Open a Blank Page

Mine is still slow in vista. first tab open takes ~3 seconds on blank page. not impressed.

RmG said,
After pressing Ctrl+T in IE8, i have to wait for about 2 secs before the new tab opens... Anyone noticed this too?


Try to open 3 or 4 tabs together, it opens faster after the first one!!!!

Installed it, and so far am a lot more impressed than I was with IE7. All websites I made have been updated to work, and everything is quicker too.

I remember when I downloaded IE 3 Beta 2... it was 11 meg and took me all night on my 14.4 modem. Today I accidentally downloaded the .x86 version (13 meg) and then the x64 version (24 meg) in less than a minute - in total. How times have changed. 5 versions up, a million times faster.

deck said,
I remember when I downloaded IE 3 Beta 2... it was 11 meg and took me all night on my 14.4 modem. Today I accidentally downloaded the .x86 version (13 meg) and then the x64 version (24 meg) in less than a minute - in total. How times have changed. 5 versions up, a million times faster.


IE3?? Man...I didn't even have internet access then let along 14.4. I had to use the schools whenever I wanted to go on the internet - back to thsoe BBS and Netscape Navigator 3.1 days lol.
But I remember when I first got internet access 56K with Win98...going from IE4 to IE5 - took me the whole day...no one could call home cause I was downloading hahahaha.....and to think back then they put a cap limit on that too...yeah times have changed for sure!

Is it just me or is the Silverlight video on this article bugged when played in fullscreen mode? I can only catch like the top-left corner of the video when it is playing in fullscreen. Works fine in default though.

Anyway, I am sad there isn't a version on Windows 7 beta. Feeling left out :P

OP: Might want to consolidate the links up a bit to avoid confusion:

* XP 64-bit and Server 2003 64-bit are same file.
* Vista 32-bit and Server 2008 32-bit are same file.
* Vista 64-bit and Server 2008 64-bit are same file.

Just installed it. So far so good. Does seem faster. I have the Windows 7 Beta so I already have played with it but this release seems a bit faster.

Haven't had any problms at all with it. Everything is working well. Better than IE7 - faster definitely. A definite upgrade so far...will be playing around with it more

Question 1 - The 64-bit version of Vista comes with a 64 & 32 bit version of IE. Do I have to download both?
Question 2 - Shouldn't the Vista setup work on Server2008 or do I need to download the specific 2008 version?

Depends which you use. The 64 bit version doesn't support most add ons so I would say download the 32 bit version.

RE: #2 I just went to download the version for Windows 2008 x64 and it gave me the vista setup so I guess they do use the same code after all!

lee26 said,
Depends which you use. The 64 bit version doesn't support most add ons so I would say download the 32 bit version.

64 bit package is for 64 bit OS. It contain 32 and 64 bit builds. 32 bit distro is for 32 bit OS only. It won't install on 64 bit OS.

lee26 said,
Depends which you use. The 64 bit version doesn't support most add ons so I would say download the 32 bit version.


Wrong. You cannot install the 32-bit package on a 64-bit OS.

The 64-bit package includes both the 64-bit and the WOW64 (32-bit) version of the browser.

Waiting for this since one month. This is going to be coolest release I think as they have followed web standards too seriously. Let's see how it works :)..

Err, there was no RC1 release for the Win7 Beta. There were just a couple of selected updates to address hangs. I wouldn't expect any additional updates for the beta. The changesin the final IE 8 build will be in the Win7 RC.

Under the "Other locales and versions" link there is link "Attention Windows 7 Users":
We're sorry, but you won't be able to download Internet Explorer 8 for Windows 7 Beta at this time

Windows 7 Beta already includes a pre-release candidate version of Internet Explorer 8 that is optimized for that release. Windows 7 enables unique features and functionality in Internet Explorer 8 including Windows Touch and Jump Lists which require additional product tests to ensure we are providing the best Windows experience for our customers. We will continue to update the version of Internet Explorer 8 running on Windows 7 as the development cycles of Windows 7 progress and plan to include the final version of Internet Explorer 8 in the release candidate version of Windows 7 later this year. For the latest information on Windows 7 visit the Windows 7 site.

Awesome, downloading on one pc for now though ill leave it for a while before i put the update to all the other pcs and laptops.

Niice.. just finished downloading Installing away. Oddly enough as ALWAYS, whenever there's any mention of any browser on Neowin, there's always a Google Chrome ad on that page There's one on the top-right of this page and the bottom.

I must be fortunate, all I see is an ad for Microsoft SQL Server 2008 and JB-HiFi, probably the two items I'd be interested in looking at.

Developers would already be well aware that the IE team hasn't yet even tried to pass Acid 3. Acid 2 was the goal, and they did that long ago with the first beta.

Next version will pass Acid 3 and so on. Now will that be v9 or something like 8.1 or 8.5? I'm all for small x.1 or x.5 updates that happen quicker. But it seems IE is into a yearly release schedule now.

I'd love to see IE9 pass Acid3, but that would require them to support SVG, SVG Fonts, SMIL and fix up for DOM/JS support.

I can't see that happening for a long time.

Edit: But I'd love to be proven wrong.

GP007 said,
Developers would already be well aware that the IE team hasn't yet even tried to pass Acid 3. Acid 2 was the goal, and they did that long ago with the first beta.

Next version will pass Acid 3 and so on. Now will that be v9 or something like 8.1 or 8.5? I'm all for small x.1 or x.5 updates that happen quicker. But it seems IE is into a yearly release schedule now.


Providing the rumors are true it will be 9 I image, since 8 is suppose to be the last IE to use the Trident rendering engine. If not true we might see a .x release although maybe not, as it has been some time since MS did a .x release of IE.

leo221 said,
downloaded less than 10 seconds with our company's 20mb pipe

You are hereby rewarded 1 internet mint chocolate chip cookie.

xendrome said,
You are hereby rewarded 1 internet mint chocolate chip cookie.

I'm not sure if that sounds delicious or nasty. On one hand it is a mint chocolate chip cookie, but on the other hand, it is an INTERNET mint chocolate chip cookie. That's like dragging a mint chocolate chip cookie around on the ground in some slum before eating it.

non.sequitur2 said,
Downloaded less than 10 seconds with MY 50mb pipe. So there.

Downloaded in less than 5 seconds with MY 100mb pipe! So there.

Downloaded in less 10 seconds. ah wait I'm using Mac hehe:D

but seriously, no HTML5 support ?. Wheres the fun in that.

Looks like it already is. Too bad I'm in Win7 atm so I can't get the final version.

Maybe next time I boot into my XP install I'll get it then.

Slowest 24MB download I've had in a while. AdSense is pushing Chrome hard whilst I'm downloading IE8.