Exclusive: Windows 7 RC set for April 10, 2009

There have been so many dates flying around concerning the upcoming Release Candidate for Windows 7, and it's beginning to become a daily subject in the blogosphere. Just when you thought that we were going to see a Windows 7 RC by the end of February, a trusted source within Microsoft has informed Neowin that the RC will not be ready by the end of February.

At this time, Windows 7 RC is internally being tested and the official release date is set for April 10, 2009. The Windows team is right on schedule with development, and if there are no significant problems over the next few weeks the April 10, 2009 release date will remain in tact.

Not much information is available at this time. We're uncertain if the release will be a world-wide, and Microsoft is expected to do more testing before releasing a RC build to the public. With that in mind, TechNet and MSDN subscribers should be the first to receive the RC build. A recent email conversation between Paul, over at GeekSmack, and Steven Sinofsky, Microsoft Senior Vice President of Windows, revealed that there have been over 500,000 suggestions since the public launch of the Windows 7 Beta.

Sinofsky mentioned that, "recently we've seen people talk about 'RC Builds' and the like. First, all builds since the beta are RC builds since by definition that is the next milestone. But by far the most humorous element has been that the build numbers blogged about are higher than our current build. Today's build is 7046, but it hasn't completed yet :-)."

Other than the UAC fixes that were highlighted earlier this month, not much is known as to what has been changed or fixed in these internal builds, we'll keep you up to date with more information as it comes our way.

Update (1:14 PM -6 GMT): Emil Protalinski over at Ars Technica has apparently spoke with Steven Sinofsky, and he has said, "The build will be available broadly". This isn't a normal thing for Microsoft to do, however we will wait and see what Microsoft has in store for us in the coming weeks.

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ANYONE!, in the general cycle of MS and their RC cycle, how many RC's are there "BEFORE" they drop the project into RTM mode?

Still hoping that Toshiba will have an upgrade option for this laptop of mine.

I am unable 2 edit my posts as I am using my cell phone 2 post here as my parents no longer let me use their ISP 2 post here.

From what i can see from the beta, Windows 7 looks and works like a charm.

Hopefully Microsoft will grant me a RC copy

what make me like the timing even more

it would be exactly at the start of my uni holiday :D

have more time to fiddle with the release yappe

lol

Sevan said,
I COMPLEATELY misread the article.

I thought it read RTM not RC. Now I know.

Ooo, hope you didn't get your hopes up too much? :P

Microsoft has already promised the UAC fix in the RC and you never get a final build of IE in RC builds of an OS so I have a pretty good idea.

There's an update to the beta that fixes the mp3 bug and the only other WMP12 bug is the overlapping of another window in snap mode and non allowing of window reduction in size all of which have been fixed in 7022.

I'm hoping *not* to see IE8, Media Center and the other junk!
Their install should be optional, rather than having them forced upon you.

Bring Back "Show Dekstop" to the left side!!! Make it a hidden option, I don't care, as long as it's not registry hack,.

BRING IT BACK

You have the START button on the left side so where would you like it to be placed? The whole idea behind this new "show desktop" button is you can activate it very fast, without the need to search for it. Very good idea, I miss it whenever I work on Vista/XP.

That's the beauty of the new positioning of the 'show desktop' feature; you can just flick your mouse to the far bottom right and not have to worry that you may accidently not click it or accidently click something else. You can now quickly show the desktop, using the mouse, without actually even looking at your screen.

Keep in mind, Upgrading from a beta version is not supported. It may or may not work. If it does, your system will run slow. I highly recommend a clean install.

Thanks neowin.net for clearing up this matter! seems to be alot of negative people around here taking huge dumps all over this place. I'd appreciate it if, some people could learn to be more constructive around here.

anyhow, GREAT NEWS!!!

You're not the only one who would like for more constructive and meaningful discussion ;)

As you will be aware from intense moderation in this article, we are cracking down on moderation in all our news articles in order to keep our news section clean and enjoyable for all members. Hopefully, in future, we can prevent comments such as the ones which were deleted from this news article

kevpan815 said,
I am personally surprised that you guys have not noticed that there is a Build 7000 WS2008R2 Public Beta that is still available 4 download!

how many people here own a server and/or would put a beta system on a server

from Windows 7 Beta FAQ

Is there technical support available for the Windows 7 Beta?

No. Microsoft doesn̢۪t offer technical support for pre-release software, including the Windows 7 Beta.

meaning you can only submit bugs via the Send Feedback link at the top of open windows. if you call and try to report a bug, it will be ignored

Read my lips: i am having a serious file system error with build 7000 in the form of phantom download files that will not delete, just fyi.

[< added the following which was inappropriately posted by this user, as separate comments, minutes after this comment > - CalumJR]

P.S. I called MSDN Tech Support yesterday 2 report the issue so hopefully they were able 2 Repro the issue today, just fyi.

My file system error show stopper bug also occurs in the WS2008R2 Build 7000 Public Beta as well.

I am personally surprised that you guys have not noticed that there is a Build 7000 WS2008R2 Public Beta that is still available 4 download!

FYI - I experience the same "phantom download" bug, but the files are definitely deleteable from my other OS, Vista. Just explore into Users>Username>Downloads and delete.

kevpan815 said,
I personally that my 3rd party source about rc1 coming out in june or july is more accurate, also just fyi.

Lulz.

I still think that april is way 2 early 4 the rc 2 be coming out since i am having a serious file system error in build 7000, just fyi.

[< added the following which was inappropriately posted by this user as a separate comment minutes after this comment > - CalumJR]

I personally that my 3rd party source about rc1 coming out in june or july is more accurate, also just fyi.

kevpan815 said,
I still think that april is way 2 early 4 the rc 2 be coming out since i am having a serious file system error in build 7000, just fyi.

If you have a bug in your Windows 7 beta which you deem important, there is no need to post in this news article multiple times about that bug. Especially when you have already sent feedback to Microsoft about this issue.

I don't think April will be too early since the beta build was built several months earlier. I honestly think April would be about right.

Has no one considered just getting a technet account when it goes final. You'll be able to download the final release from there plus other products like office for example and I believe office 14 will be released later this year around the same time as windows 7 and you'll be able to download that as well from technet and it's usually cheaper than the price of the OS on it's own.

A TechNet Plus accountl costs around £180. Vista Home Premium costs around £160 and Vista Ultimate costa about the same as a TechNet plus account and thats after 2 years they were more expensive when it was first released and I would imagine that Windows 7 would be similarally priced. If you only want the OS then maybe don't bother but if you want the OS and Office then you'de save a small fortune. I saved at least £200 by getting a Technet plus account when vista and office 2007 were released.

did u actually thought about the great opportunity to have a annual subscription at fileplanet to get ALL the great things like betas and demos for FREE!!!

u could actually join as well steam in europe, since this all doesnt make any sense...

Good to hear that it will be available broadly. It's a great strategy - give them the beta and release candidate for free and they'll pay the upgrade fee when it's final. Well, I certainly will.

Awesome
Just saw this on the Frontpage and got an email from my school stating that
Sinofsky will be doing a Windows 7 presentation at my college on Wednesday

gamestargrinder said,
Awesome
Just saw this on the Frontpage and got an email from my school stating that
Sinofsky will be doing a Windows 7 presentation at my college on Wednesday

Feel free to write up about what he talks about

gamestargrinder said,
will do, hopefully I can bring a camera in. Its at Georgia Tech

That would be much appreciated. Thank you

Sevan said,
Yeah, I heard about this over at GeekSmack before it went live here.

It's good stuff, I'm waiting for it. :D


GeekSmack didn't have the release date, only the e-mail conversation with Sinofsky :).

Still, that bit with Sinofsky sounds promising. I'm on the beta now, if they let you use the RC as well I'll give it a try. Otherwise i'll just stick with the beta till it timebombs in Aug. :P

leesmithg said,
Anyone got some links to prices?

I must start saving if I am to become a Windows 7 user.


They have not yet been announced. As soon as they are we'll let you know!

500,000 suggestions......and 499,999 have probably been rejected LOL.
Seriously, I really hope Redmond took the (serious) suggestions to heart and with feedback, can deliver 7 with
a better reception that Vista. I've had it as my "daily driver" on my work laptop (with a daily mirror backup just in case) since it was released to the tubes. Not ONE error, lockup, or BSOD.

Man, that's awesome. I hated how it always opened Libraries instead of computer. Although, it was still available in the left column..any chance of us getting the "sort bar" back?

darkmanx21 said,
Man, that's awesome. I hated how it always opened Libraries instead of computer. Although, it was still available in the left column..any chance of us getting the "sort bar" back?

If they bring the sort bar back, I hope we are allowed to remove it as an option. I think it makes the interface look ugly and I really see no use for it when "Large" or "Medium" icons are used. There is only use for that sort bar when "Details view" is used.

I don't think that will be coming back. All of its functions are available elsewhere, and it clutters up the UI and confuses some people because the column headers don't actually line up with what's shown in the view.

On the other hand, in Libraries you have the great Arrange By drop-down for sorting / grouping / stacking, and you have rich filters in the search box. If you just want to sort, you can also right-click on the background of the view (including the new larger "well" on the left side) or use the View menu.

Damn, too bad, because I for one realized it wasn't supposed to line up, and liked to see how things were sorted before having to bring up a menu. :-/ Ah well... Adapt for the weakest link, and all that, lol.

Brandon Live said,
I don't think that will be coming back. All of its functions are available elsewhere...

That's good to hear. I love the way Windows 7 has cleared up some UI clutter. As you say, the column headers didn't actually line up.

Also, if the features are available elsewhere, I'm sure users will easily get used to it.

+Brandon Live
We've taken a whole lot of feedback on my team, particularly the most common asks (like to change back the Win+E behavior, for example).

lol, glad I'm not the only one who sent feedback on that

I can't wait to mess around with the RC build. I haven't tried the beta myself but it seems like it'll be pretty cool and wont use as much stuff as vista

Now that sounds more like a reasonable date. Having an RC released at the end of this month would be way too quick.

why? let MS drop these things, you boggle my mind... we've been through XP menu changes, Vista and now slight Windows 7 changes, and you can't get used to them? ... i wish they didn't even bother keeping classic UI mode, but they did, a UI thats 12 years old, ruining Windows for the rest of us who love change

I don't use classic either, but you have to remember that they have to appeal to that least common denominator as well... the little secretary who has been doing things the same way for the last 12 years. Not saying it's right, but it's the battle they're up against when they change things.

My problem is here at work they have locked users into classic start menu via GPO. You can't even change it if you want to. I HATE when people force their personal preference on me.

I worked with a guy (who till does this) that insisted on structing the start menu so it looks more like the groups you used to see in Windows 3.x which would be okay for his personal use but he made the changes on every machine in the 30+ user lab (All Users menu).

BTW both of the afore mentioned scenarios are on XP.

I agree, it should be an option. Especially useful for those who can't handle change - but there, you have the Catch-22: those are also usually the kind of people who aren't able to figure out HOW to switch to Classic.

If looks like it will be just before April 10 - msft has started registrations on "Install Fest for Windows 7" where people are getting a copy of 7. The earliest date I have seen for this is April 2.

I am guessing that this will be the RC.

timster said,
April 2 is most likely the date it will be leaked on torrent sites

Who knows, perhaps we already get a leak before. Perhaps of Build 7050, as that's a nice round number.

Any guesses on which Build the RC will be? I think Build 7077, as that has three 7 in it.

I've already been to one of these install fairs in January, they could still just be doing the tour with the beta?

"People are getting a copy of 7"

If anyone gets the chance I would recomend they visit one of these fairs. We were informed that when Win7 releases a free copy would be coming our way.

McDave;

With the April 10 release date, they would only be ticking folks off by having them install and provide the beta only a week earlier.

Digix said,
hopefully out of the 500,000 they'll have taken user interface into account.

I'd like to see some new icons, at least :D

Some other interface changes would be welcomed as well.

It's funny cause MS never sets a real date or gives any idea when they're coming out.
If this really happens in April 10th I will be veryyy surprised.

TheNay said,
It's funny cause MS never sets a real date or gives any idea when they're coming out.
If this really happens in April 10th I will be veryyy surprised.


Really? Odd because I've seen numerous dates that were given by our insiders at Microsoft actually turn out. When it comes to internal dates, we wouldn't announce them if we didn't research ;).

TheNay said,
It's funny cause MS never sets a real date or gives any idea when they're coming out.
If this really happens in April 10th I will be veryyy surprised.

Prepare to be surprised then

It's good that they really aren't rushing it like many of us thought in the past couple of days. And its really nice to see that there are that much response during the testing and MS possibly listening.

No offense, but to all those people hyperventilating over when the next build will be released and/or what build # it will be: *please* push yourself away from your computer and the internet! It seems a daily ritual for people to act like they are on crack over this.

If you don't care about this bit of info why are you here posting about those who do?

If anything maybe you should "please push yourself" to another topic?

SHoTTa35 said,
"Hi, i'm SHoTTa35 - i'm a addict" - LOL.. that should explain it all.

lylesback2 said,
*tear* Hi, i'm lylesback2, and I am also an addict to Windows Beta's

:laugh:

I have to agree with everyone else who replied here. People get excited about different things

I figured the end of February wasn't right. Only 8 days left and no one had really officially indicated anything serious. Sort of blows Thurotts idea about RTM in April out of the water, but confirms what we'd thought about August being the final release time.

Wow... a definitive date huh Well i guess we will see! Any interim releases between now and then? For beta addicts, 46 days is a looong time