Facebook announces Facebook email - @facebook.com

Today Facebook held a press conference for their latest announcement. The company announced that they will be launching an email service for Facebook, but with a twist. The new email service will have a chat-like service so users can communicate between one another.

Facebook announced that there is 350 million active users using the service today, that is an astonishing number, compared to the 550 million registered users the site contains. People share up to 4 billion messages on a daily basis, through the chat feature.

The new Facebook Email service won't be your traditional email service, but with a social networking, immediate chat twist. The new email service will be able to help speed up how users communicate with one another, through email.

The three main features to the service will have seamless messaging, conversation history and a social inbox. Users will be able to have an @facebook.com email address, and with that email, they'll be able to have instant inbox alerts, the same concept as Google Instant Search, with conversation history and a social inbox, using an algorithm to filter out all the messages you don't want.

The email address will use your public vanity url. If you currently have a www.facebook.com/yournamehere, you be able to register your yournamehere@facebook.com vanity. The email service is completely optional to users, and isn't forced onto users.

Adjusting your Facebook email settings is easy. You'll be able to move your favourite contacts into your direct inbox, getting instant alerts from your top friends. You'll also have a second message center, with contacts that aren't on your priority list.

Microsoft will also play a role in the Facebook email inbox, with Outlook Web Apps. With Web Apps integration, users will be able to use Microsoft Office documents like Word, Excel and PowerPoint to share with friends and family, a feature already integrated with Facebook and docs.com.

Users will also get to connect their account with Windows Live SkyDrive, offering up to 25GB of online storage for school work, photos, and personal documents you can share across computers, friends or use as additional storage.

The Facebook iPhone application will receive an update very shortly, with the new inbox messaging system. Users will also be able to send and receive messages via SMS, so you'll be able to text your friends, and have it appear on their Facebook page instantly.

  

Facebook also explained their reasoning for purchasing fb.com. Media contacts and staff at Facebook will use @fb.com email addresses, while every user will be able to use @facebook.com.

      

Update: You are now able to request an invitation here, though there is no word of when you will receive one.

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That is why they introduced the back up feature within facebook now that stores all that in a zip file so every now and then you should back up your stuff if you don't its you fault!

One fine day they (facebook) will stop you from logging in.. they have this 10 page terms and conditions, all your important data and network is gone!!
Thank God its not same with gmail.

I hope they include great Facebook Messages support in Windows Phone 7, with a later update. I would also like the messages UI to be more like the SMS UI is on Windows Phones and iPhones - I think the speech bubble kind of idea works well.

All in all, I will probably use this over Hotmail, if I like it once I've played with it.

I love the idea of combining everything into one and the fact all is needed is a person and a message.

AKLP said,
Gmail --> Create new filter --> @facebook.com /block
-job done
Hmmm......can we create an auto-reply saying we do not accept email from facebook.com?

AKLP said,
Gmail --> Create new filter --> @facebook.com /block
-job done

Oh this could be a problem, I redirect all facebook emails to a seperate email id (which i never use), this would block @facebook.com email from friends as well...

Was discussing this with a couple of mates... lets say your a friend of a friend of a friend and i end up on your profile. In the URL i see facebook.com/yourname... Whats stopping me emailing yourname@facebook.com and spamming your message inbox anyway even if you have messages turned off for none friends...?

Nicholas-c said,
Was discussing this with a couple of mates... lets say your a friend of a friend of a friend and i end up on your profile. In the URL i see facebook.com/yourname... Whats stopping me emailing yourname@facebook.com and spamming your message inbox anyway even if you have messages turned off for none friends...?
Well one of two things. One, you need to whitelist people (from what I read, haven't tried it myself as I don't use facebook), which means just because you know someone's facebook email address, doesn't mean you will be able to email them, let alone spam them.

And two, it could work off privacy settings to an extent, if your sending from facebook to facebook it could check privacy settings and, depending on how they are sent (if your messages are disabled for non-friends for example) it would block the email from sending (or spam-filter it out, similar to above).

The fact you have to whitelist people though is what would annoy me about it. Sure it blocks spam really well, but it also has a MUCH higher chance of blocking legit email you might want, with no way of knowing (from what I understand it doesn't simply move stuff to a spam inbox, it simple doesn't show the user period....but I may be wrong, I don't use facebook personally) until the person who sent it contacts you another way (think email requests for job positions and what not, and other email you may not be expecting but may be beneficial).

Nagisan said,
Well one of two things. One, you need to whitelist people (from what I read, haven't tried it myself as I don't use facebook), which means just because you know someone's facebook email address, doesn't mean you will be able to email them, let alone spam them.

And two, it could work off privacy settings to an extent, if your sending from facebook to facebook it could check privacy settings and, depending on how they are sent (if your messages are disabled for non-friends for example) it would block the email from sending (or spam-filter it out, similar to above).

The fact you have to whitelist people though is what would annoy me about it. Sure it blocks spam really well, but it also has a MUCH higher chance of blocking legit email you might want, with no way of knowing (from what I understand it doesn't simply move stuff to a spam inbox, it simple doesn't show the user period....but I may be wrong, I don't use facebook personally) until the person who sent it contacts you another way (think email requests for job positions and what not, and other email you may not be expecting but may be beneficial).


From what they explained, the 'whitelist' is made automatically depending on your choice (friends, friends of friends, etc). So if someone outside that network emails you, it would go into the 'others' folder.

One journalist asked a very good question: what happen when I have a facebook friendship with someone but we are not really friends (more like acquaintances) and facebook dude was like: we assume all of them are actual friends. IMO she made a very good point.

Now that Facebook has finished violating your social privacy they're going after your private privacy. I am sorry but I don't trust these jackasses one bit.

ManOfMystery said,
Now that Facebook has finished violating your social privacy they're going after your private privacy. I am sorry but I don't trust these jackasses one bit.


nobody is forcing you

ManOfMystery said,
Now that Facebook has finished violating your social privacy they're going after your private privacy. I am sorry but I don't trust these jackasses one bit.

I think it's hilarious that people want to put their personal lives online and then expect privacy.

Skyfrog said,

I think it's hilarious that people want to put their personal lives online and then expect privacy.

What is sad is that nowadays so many people are putting their lives on FB ...... and ten years from now they will badly regret it.....

I think this is doing to just decimate other mail services (gmail, live mail, etc). Damn near everyone already uses facebook and you can bet that most users will register a mail account with fb and start using that. I mean, you're on fb, why not be on your mail account at the same time on the same site. It'll make sense to the average user.

So every spider on the web will be able to find your email address by going through facebook profiles. SPAM city surely? facebook.com/joebloggs will be joebloggs@facebook.com right?

Hope their Spam filter is good.

EDIT. Never mind. Whitelisting is involved. Glorified chat system by the looks of it.

Elliott said,
Why not?
Because not everyone lives inside of Facebook. I know plenty of people who regularly check their email accounts in Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, etc., but want nothing to do with a Facebook account. Sure, this will catch on with the teenager and 20something crowd, but that's not really Gmail's audience to begin with. And I also cannot imagine someone sending a serious email (resumé, job application, business inquiries, etc.) from a Facebook email account. Who would take that seriously?

chaos_disorder said,
Because not everyone lives inside of Facebook. I know plenty of people who regularly check their email accounts in Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, etc., but want nothing to do with a Facebook account. Sure, this will catch on with the teenager and 20something crowd, but that's not really Gmail's audience to begin with. And I also cannot imagine someone sending a serious email (resumé, job application, business inquiries, etc.) from a Facebook email account. Who would take that seriously?
Exactly. That's what I've been saying as soon as I found out about Facebook's e-mail solution. It'll never be as "professional" as Gmail. So many businesses use the latter and it's widely accepted on resumés, curriculum vitaes, etc.

Anaron said,
Exactly. That's what I've been saying as soon as I found out about Facebook's e-mail solution. It'll never be as "professional" as Gmail. So many businesses use the latter and it's widely accepted on resumés, curriculum vitaes, etc.
Agreed, if I were a hiring manager and saw facebook on a resume, I would get a chuckle out of it as it went into the trash. As you mentioned, gmail is much more accepted as a professional solution because they offer not only personal accounts, but business solutions as well. To add to that, all the smaller companies I have worked for have had google set up as the default homepage on most of the computer systems in the business, they are much more likely to accept gmail than facebook mail.

I know some people that will likely use facebook mail, but I know many more that will stick with gmail. On top of that, to prevent spam, facebook works off a whitelist system. What happens if you put your resume out there with a facebook email? You will likely miss a few contacts looking to get more information about you for a position they have available. Plus many people will likely be confused or annoyed by the whitelist system....."Hey, email me sometime at ____@facebook.com.....actually..whats your email address? I gotta whitelist your address before you can email me..."

I'm not really surprised facemail is going to try getting into email, but it just doesn't sound like a proper email solution, and it certainly doesn't sound like a very professional solution.

Anaron said,
Exactly. That's what I've been saying as soon as I found out about Facebook's e-mail solution. It'll never be as "professional" as Gmail. So many businesses use the latter and it's widely accepted on resumés, curriculum vitaes, etc.

Around a year back, Facebook was in general used by young generation. But today more people of different age groups are joining facebook. I have some college professors on facebook too.

I am not saying people will only have @facebook.com account, people will have secondary account for formal purposes. As of now people gerenrally have 2 different emails, 1 is personal email, 2nd is email alloted by companies they work for. Now with Facebook email, one would use his @facebook.com email to contact friends and family, and business email for formal purposes. Reducing the use of personal emails, which would definitely affect Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, but not Microsoft Exchange, Google Apps, Lotus (Though Lotus is already dying)

if hotmail, gmail and yahoo cant deal with spam properly i dont think that facebook will. its gonna be a serious security threat for all FB user

eilegz said,
if hotmail, gmail and yahoo cant deal with spam properly i dont think that facebook will. its gonna be a serious security threat for all FB user

If you are serious about security you don't use facebook to share your information in the first place.

tensegrity said,

If you are serious about security you don't use facebook to share your information in the first place.
Thats the problem, its not necessarily those who are not serious about security on facebook, its those who do not know any better (generally speaking). Now, their security is going to be at a much higher risk than before facemail (yes, thats my own official name for it, coined before it becomes a meme for unaware people everywhere).

Kinda like gmail+gtalk, what they're describring in the live feed.

Sounds like a politician speaking. He says that facebook ads are not 'targeted', that they are 'as relevant as possible', and that instead of "tracking" you (like, gmail does), they just display thing based on what you input on facebook. Say, you like greenday, you will get green day ads. He says that it is very different than what everybody else is doing.

And he also says that IMs and Emails are like seamlessly integrated, and that everything is logged, but every gtalk conversation is also logged.

I mean I like the whole mixing them all so that you are always available, and that you can go from the PC to your phone without the other person knowing. But when you think about it, android and gmail and gtalk already do that.

So the rumor last week about MS playing some part in all this is true. I uppose for those who want to keep everything FB related in one place this works fine for them. Lots of people might ditch any other "throw away" email accounts they have and just use this one now. My Gmail account is like that, I use it for forums and stuff only.

Who in their right mind would use this email for anything outside of Facebook? The trust level will never be there.

rrode74 said,
Who in their right mind would use this email for anything outside of Facebook? The trust level will never be there.
Not to mention if you actually use facebook and put your email address on your resume, it will make it that much easier for potential employers to look into your facebook (was going to say private, but anything you post online is no longer private) life.

rrode74 said,
Who in their right mind would use this email for anything outside of Facebook? The trust level will never be there.

+1 and anyone that emails me from facebook will be throwing into the spam box!!!

It'll be interesting to see if it's going to be useful enough to have IMAP, POP3, SMTP or is it going to be a 'simulated' email in the sense that it's totally locked into the Facebook interfacing..

episode said,
Spam city incoming.
Did you not read the article? Spam is to be handled well - basically whitelisting.

It's really just specifying which route messages take to get to/arrive at you.
Someone 'messages' you - if online, it'll 'chat' you, if not, it'll sms you or whatever.

Basically GChat sms just on another site which everyone uses. As much as I love gmail....well, i'd want keyboard shortcuts

dancedar said,
Did you not read the article? Spam is to be handled well - basically whitelisting.

It's really just specifying which route messages take to get to/arrive at you.
Someone 'messages' you - if online, it'll 'chat' you, if not, it'll sms you or whatever.

Basically GChat sms just on another site which everyone uses. As much as I love gmail....well, i'd want keyboard shortcuts

It will be incredibly easy to datamine everyone's email. If your facebook address is facebook.com/bobsmith then your email is bobsmith@email.com. So yes, spam city. Regardless of whitelisting.

episode said,

It will be incredibly easy to datamine everyone's email. If your facebook address is facebook.com/bobsmith then your email is bobsmith@email.com. So yes, spam city. Regardless of whitelisting.

I still don't think you understand. Let's try again: you practically won't see emails from people unless they're your friends on Facebook.

Elliott said,
I still don't think you understand. Let's try again: you practically won't see emails from people unless they're your friends on Facebook.

So in other words, this isn't actually "e-mail", but just a fancier PM system.

Blasius said,

So in other words, this isn't actually "e-mail", but just a fancier PM system.


Sure as hell sounds like it lol

Blasius said,

So in other words, this isn't actually "e-mail", but just a fancier PM system.

From what I understand, it has a standard junk mail filter, a normal inbox, and a "social inbox". Think Gmail's priority inbox but prioritizing by friendships instead of more abstractly.

So no, not just a PM system.

Elliott said,
From what I understand, it has a standard junk mail filter, a normal inbox, and a "social inbox". Think Gmail's priority inbox but prioritizing by friendships instead of more abstractly.

So no, not just a PM system.

3 inboxes? Whats the point. More clutter and what not. I'll stick with gmail.

Blasius said,

3 inboxes? Whats the point. More clutter and what not. I'll stick with gmail.


Gmail has three inboxes too. The inbox, the inbox with spam, and the priority inbox.

Yeah, you may not count them like this, but this is how the above poster counted the upcoming FB inboxes. The "social inbox" is like the priority inbox on Gmail.

Elliott said,
From what I understand, it has a standard junk mail filter, a normal inbox, and a "social inbox". Think Gmail's priority inbox but prioritizing by friendships instead of more abstractly.

So no, not just a PM system.

If this is the standard junk filter it will just suck like all the other one's do. At least for me anyway. It blocks some things but most gets through.

De.Bug said,
If this is the standard junk filter it will just suck like all the other one's do. At least for me anyway. It blocks some things but most gets through.
The two services I've used (MobileMe and Gmail) are excellent at blocking spam. I imagine Facebook will be pretty good at it as well.

Many people live inside facebook these days so it's a decent option to get in contact with them especially if you don't have access to Facebook to send a message and also good for people who aren't even on Facebook, they can still contact people. In the end more yummy info for Facebook to store.

OceanMotion said,
Many people live inside facebook these days so it's a decent option to get in contact with them especially if you don't have access to Facebook to send a message and also good for people who aren't even on Facebook, they can still contact people. In the end more yummy info for Facebook to store.

What about if someone wit a FB account email you and you reply? Will FB be able to catch your email address and the email text?
If so I will block everybody with a FB domain; I do not use it and I do not want them to ber able to track me getting in using the door in the back.

Wait?

Don't Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo etc already include chat like services (live messenger/ gtalk /Yahoo messenger) built in to the email? Along with social networking features (spaces / Gbuzz / etc)?

Doesn't really sound like their offering much new tbh? o.0

Bag said,
Wait?

Don't Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo etc already include chat like services (live messenger/ gtalk /Yahoo messenger) built in to the email? Along with social networking features (spaces / Gbuzz / etc)?

Doesn't really sound like there offering much new tbh o.0

I think they mean your inbox will update all the time in realtime... or something... most emails basically already do this though as the update quite often, and if you need to really talk to someone why wouldn't you just IM instead of mail?

Bag said,
Wait?

Don't Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo etc already include chat like services (live messenger/ gtalk /Yahoo messenger) built in to the email? Along with social networking features (spaces / Gbuzz / etc)?

Doesn't really sound like their offering much new tbh? o.0

I thought the same thing, although to be completely honest, I've never used any of the major providers social network tools, still curious to how this will all be integrated, although it doesn't make me want to register, rather change my name again ugh

So basically just an improved version of their messaging as well as giving you an address?
That's underwhelming...

Can you mail people on facebook from another mail? Kinda unclear...'

Whatever, doubt ill use it i like my yahoo mail just fine and it's pretty much instant updates for that on my phone too so...

As it goes off vanity URL, does that mean people can change their vanity url to change their email? What happens if someone changes their vanity URL then someone else changes to that vanity URL?

Not sure how facebook vanity URLs work, but it could be a major security concern, despite that, yet another email service I will never use.

Nagisan said,
As it goes off vanity URL, does that mean people can change their vanity url to change their email? What happens if someone changes their vanity URL then someone else changes to that vanity URL?

Not sure how facebook vanity URLs work, but it could be a major security concern, despite that, yet another email service I will never use.


probably you wont be able to either change you address after the first registration of it or no one will be able to use one that have already been used before, the later being rather unlikely i think

Leonick said,

probably you wont be able to either change you address after the first registration of it or no one will be able to use one that have already been used before, the later being rather unlikely i think
What happens when someone makes a new account and gives it a Vanity URL but theres already an email address associated with that Vanity URL then? Does it just say that the Vanity URL cannot be used, or does it let them use the Vanity URL but force them to add/change the email name before they can get an @facebook.com email address?

I guess we will see how this plays out later, either way I already have an established email address that I do not plan to change from anytime soon.

Nagisan said,
What happens when someone makes a new account and gives it a Vanity URL but theres already an email address associated with that Vanity URL then? Does it just say that the Vanity URL cannot be used, or does it let them use the Vanity URL but force them to add/change the email name before they can get an @facebook.com email address?

I guess we will see how this plays out later, either way I already have an established email address that I do not plan to change from anytime soon.

I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure the vanity url is a permanent thing when you attach a name to your account.
So you won't run into any of the problems you've mentioned

Corris said,

I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure the vanity url is a permanent thing when you attach a name to your account.
So you won't run into any of the problems you've mentioned
If that's the case then yes, you are correct, none of the problems I mentioned would be an issue. But, its kind of lame if they don't let you change your vanity URL....I can understand it with things like email, but with general social networking I know I would probably end up changing my vanity URL a few times...hell, already changed my name on Neowin once.

Nagisan said,
If that's the case then yes, you are correct, none of the problems I mentioned would be an issue. But, its kind of lame if they don't let you change your vanity URL....I can understand it with things like email, but with general social networking I know I would probably end up changing my vanity URL a few times...hell, already changed my name on Neowin once.

it's supposed to be permanent, but they allowed you to change it once after everyone complained. ostensibly to let you correct typos. names that have ever existed will not be recyclable.

350m users seems a bit much since if you auto log into fb there is no news or notification for it. i bet you need to be a fan of the fb pages though to see that.

Pajter said,
Am I the only one that went to James Kaminski's Facebook profile?

Yea, haha, wanted to see if it actually went anywhere, lol.

interesting.. at least i can keep all my fb stuff on facebook. wonder how quickly they will integrate this into mobile side though

blahism said,
interesting.. at least i can keep all my fb stuff on facebook. wonder how quickly they will integrate this into mobile side though

It's definitely interesting but do you really trust having your email with a rather controversial company when it comes to privacy?