Fallout 3 Refused Classification in Australia

Bad news for Australians unfortunately! Fallout 3 has fallen short of the very strict RC ratings by the Office of Film and Literature Classification.

Strangely, the system does not allow video games to be granted a rating above 15+, whilst movies can be granted an 18+.

This rating does, unfortunately, render the game banned from sale in Australia.

The most recent example of a game that fell short of the ratings system was Dark Sector, by D3P, which eventually cleared the ratings after extensive cuts to the games content.

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what the $%&!!#!!

As for why....
It's the authority that is designated to rate games that is the problem, which ultimately comes down to 5 people with an average age of 60 saying Ya or Na.
It's ludicrous that the gaming system doesn't just use the exact same rating system that movies do.

Why doesn't it just use the movie rating system you ask... who knows, bureaucracy is the closest i can guess at. All for the need for more useless arse paper work.

As for not letting it in encouraging pirating, i don't think i couldn't agree more sadly, i know a lot of people that are going to be very annoyed that this doesn't get released here in Australia in its original form.

Yeah theres ONE governor attorny (from Victoria) apparently opposing the R rating and they need all of them to say yes for it to pass. It's rediculous to be honest.

I find it so so hipercritical for a government to say it is opposing the rating in order to protect children when
a) it's the parents job
b) the average gamer is 20+, close to 30.
c) The government actively receives money in taxes for things such as Tobacco and Gambling, two things that cost far more lives every year than gaming ever has not to mention the burden they place on things such as the health system. If they truely wanted to save lives why not ban these. Ohh I know, because they wouldn't have a political career after doing so. Bah.
d) Anyone who really wants the game will get it anyway. A refused classification doesnt stop people importing it (maybe legally but practically it doesn't) and what with the internet it's impossible for the government to stop anyone getting the game off a torrent or whatever.

Some of the leaders are so very out of touch and should stop trying to be every ones parent.

I never thought Australians were conservative and restricting when it came to mature subject matter. This is probably just some flaw in the rating system.

Other than that I'm glad to see Fallout will remain dark and mature. It would have sucked if they dumbed it down.

there not gunna be missing much, the people that are making fallout 3 make pretty buggy games
they dont have good customer and community relations either

stay away, thats what im doing

You mean Bethesda? The makers of The Elder Scrolls Series? Oblivion? Some of the best RPGs ever made? I don't know where you get bad customer relations as they have provided some of the most openly modifiable games ever made. The Oblivion mod scene is huge and unbelievably innovative, dwarfs all others.

Buggy games? Oblivion ran very well, and they have had phenomenal community relations. You really don't know what you're saying.

(RPDL said @ #5.2)
Buggy games? Oblivion ran very well, and they have had phenomenal community relations. You really don't know what you're saying.

iv been following these guys from the start and to the end, dont tell me i dont know anything
im not going to list every single game breaking bug in the game they left unfixed, but i can tell you that they have on one occasion publicly refused to fix one of the more recent ones, and after that pretty much said they wernt going to do anything more and pretty much abandoned the game and community

id call that a ****ty ass game developer

and the mod scene? they gave us a buggy piece of trash of an editor to work with, im surprised to they made the game with that

And yet, amazingly there are thousands of mods to choose from, many of which just enhance the game so much. From graphics to added gameplay, there's a ton of stuff from the modding community. They are what polish the game so very well.

Sure, there are some bugs, but they did not affect the gameplay that much. I mean, you're making it sound like Hellgate: London. Bethesda has done a wonderful job with their RPGs. I'm glad they were the ones to take up Fallout 3.

(God knows we'd be slitting our wrists if EA had gotten hold of the game)

(Dakkaroth said @ #5.4)
Sure, there are some bugs, but they did not affect the gameplay that much. I mean, you're making it sound like Hellgate: London. Bethesda has done a wonderful job with their RPGs. I'm glad they were the ones to take up Fallout 3.
There was some pretty big bugs in Oblivion. I had one that was common where a scripted sequence didnt unfold right and the player was stuck until it ended. Given the sequence didn't happen you couldn't do squat.

On the PC I could use a console command to teleport and then use a kill command to kill the NPC and release my player but had I been on the Xbox at the time I would have had to replay at least 10+ hours (from another save file since the game had auto saved just before the sequence) and regardless of how good a game is, if they force me to do something like that I probably won't be playing the game again.

They also released oblivion in a mixed state...the pea soup textures was a huge indicator of that as was the consistently poor frame rates on the Xbox version. When you could gain several FPS on the PC by simply lowering the grass density it amazes me to this day that they didnt tweak the config better in order to achive more consistent frame rates.

Still, I agree it ran fine for the most part and wasn't toooo bug ridden...but there definetly was game breakers and other signs that the game needed more testing and time even if they did delay it about 5 months to do such work already.

Wow, considering the average age of a gamer is about 30, this is extremely out of touch. It seems this is getting worse for you guys. Who's the main politician leading this? Got any links to the chronology of this?

the olfc is a sub division of the attorney generals office.
there was a vote by all of the attorney generals earlier in the year to introduce an 18+ it failed.
i've heard the person behind the failure was michael atkinson who is also pro internet censorship.

I'm not too sure why they don't allow R18 rating for games over in Australia. Guess I'll never know. That sucks; Fallout 3 looks good. Poor Australians (and that's coming from a Kiwi)