Firefox 3 Download Day Starts Today, June 17th 2008


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Sounds like a good deal, right? All you have to do is get Firefox 3 during Download Day to help set the record for most software downloads in 24 hours - it's that easy. We're not asking you to swallow a sword or to balance 30 spoons on your face, although that would be kind of awesome.

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it was quite predictable that people in Iran would welcome new firefox properly .

if you search for "فایرفاکس" on google you'll notice that there are so many blogs and Iranian websites who are following the progress of new firefox .

in addition to this , if you visit mozilla party web page , you'll get surprised about amount of parties which's going to held for new release of firefox in iran .

in addition to that I don't think that bots can generate this amount of traffic for a whole country , I do have more faith in Mozilla engineers .

I wonder how long will the advertisement for FF3 last on the main page...
Because it sure is one. Notifying about a mayor release is one thing but holding it as the first-sticky news for a few days is advertisement. I wonder what a company has to do to gain such priviledges ?
A pity that the mayor Opera 9.5 release wasn't advertised in such a way.
Anyone notices a bias towards FF fanboyism on neowin ?

BTW - Opera 9.5 just has hit over 5 milions of downloads !

(PrEzi said @ #180)
I wonder how long will the advertisement for FF3 last on the main page...
Because it sure is one. Notifying about a mayor release is one thing but holding it as the first-sticky news for a few days is advertisement. I wonder what a company has to do to gain such priviledges ?
A pity that the mayor Opera 9.5 release wasn't advertised in such a way.
Anyone notices a bias towards FF fanboyism on neowin ?

BTW - Opera 9.5 just has hit over 5 milions of downloads !

(Coolme said @ #180.2)
Firefox is more popular than Opera here on neowin because more people use Firefox here. Duh.

I don't argue about popularity, and that FF has more market share.
What I want is that this site would be as objective as possible.
And that all browsers and software should be threated in the same way.
That way the site is unbiased and gives impratial news, where everything is equal.

This FF fanboyism and this adverts just give me headaches.

(PrEzi said @ #180.3)

I don't argue about popularity, and that FF has more market share.
What I want is that this site would be as objective as possible.
And that all browsers and software should be threated in the same way.
That way the site is unbiased and gives impratial news, where everything is equal.

This FF fanboyism and this adverts just give me headaches.

If Microsoft releases its new OS and some Linux distro releases its new OS, which one do you think would make it to the main page news and why? For the same reason Opera's release didn't come to the main page, and FF did. Lets be totally honest here, not that many people use Opera as compared to IE and FF. FF release has been so hyped about that it was even in the National newspapers here in India. So as I see it, Opera should've made it to the main page news, but its not that big-a-deal and doesn't make me any anti-neowin or anti-FF.

(sibot said @ #180.4)

If Microsoft releases its new OS and some Linux distro releases its new OS, which one do you think would make it to the main page news and why? For the same reason Opera's release didn't come to the main page, and FF did. Lets be totally honest here, not that many people use Opera as compared to IE and FF. FF release has been so hyped about that it was even in the National newspapers here in India. So as I see it, Opera should've made it to the main page news, but its not that big-a-deal and doesn't make me any anti-neowin or anti-FF.

I've seen many Linux distros news on the neowin's main page
My opinion is - keeping this site as un-biased as possible is a big deal.
Btw - there are more MS-bash news on neowin than any other OS ever has had so it is a bad example I think...

I wonder how long will the advertisement for FF3 last on the main page...
Because it sure is one. Notifying about a mayor release is one thing but holding it as the first-sticky news for a few days is advertisement. I wonder what a company has to do to gain such priviledges ?
A pity that the mayor Opera 9.5 release wasn't advertised in such a way.
Anyone notices a bias towards FF fanboyism on neowin ?

IF your running Windows XP and Firefox, in the 'Quick Launch' section on the right, I always use Prefretch, so right click on icon then properties and where it says "Target" after /prefetch:1 at the end of the exe path for example mine says.

"F:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /prefetch:1

It makes Firefox load so much quicker and works with other apps to

Been using opera 9.50 exclusively for some days waiting for FF 3.0 release. Now that finally happened, FF feels slow to me.

FireFox was a little slow in starting up the first time, i guess to the initialization et al, but since then its been zooming, much much more faster than the RC1, sites are loading much faster. A job well done all in all....FF bags the home prize! Firefox 3.0 FTW!!

And the FF 3.0 is so much talked about that it was in the National Newspaper today! The largest selling newspaper in India.

I'm curious ... is there a legitimate document\chart comparing IE vs. FF vs. Opera ?
Because I can't notice any differences between IE7 and FF3..

(thealexweb said @ #174.1)
The difference between Firefox 3 and IE7 is MASSIVE! IE7 is so slow in comparison.

Says who?

"We're not asking you to ... balance 30 spoons on your face, although that would be kind of awesome."

Mozilla has the saddest idea of "awesome" I've ever heard.

This piece of crap does nothing but eat my resources alive. Uses more than 5 TIMES of the memory used by opera.
I dont know why do I back and waste my time downloading this ****. Its because I hope with a new version they release all the crap they do but NO. They keep in the same line like microsoft. They dont even consider the chance to make the things from the scratch. Instead of that they use the old crappy code and add more crap to the old crap making a bigger pile of ****.

Looking at one column in the task manager doesn't give you great insight into a programs memory management.

Also, bad extensions can cause problems.

I have to say, I am not too impressed with it thus far. Is there any way to make the drop down list in the address bar just list the sites and not have all the extra information? Also, is there a way to only show the sites I type in the bar and not all the sites I visit? I get a bunch of redirects from gmail and a few others that don't need to be in that drop down list. Like version 2 had it.

The new address bar adapts itself to what the user does. Those addresses that you never type, there will come a point where they wont be shown

Its good to let people know of other browsers so that IE can get some good competition. And we get more choice.
Ive noticed something on neowin the other day but didn't bothered about writing in the thread. Though I agree its a good idea to sticky the Firefox thread, Opera 9.5 went final and it was posted on the software news. Neowin staff didn't know that there are good browsers out there besides Firefox. Now I'm telling you that there's something called Opera and its a browser.
Anyways, sending opera to the back and bringing firefox to the front page is lame. Yes sir, very lame.

Im not hijacking the firefox thread, but neowin shouldn't force its choice on people, let others decide FFS. Firefox fangirls can still hang on their tree, no need to come down, I got nothing against firefox. Im just showing that neowin is promoting one specific browser only; instead of showing the different choices.

Have a good day.

People know about IE and Opera, right? It's Firefox's Download Day. They aren't going to cancel it so that other browsers have a chance. Not trying to be a ******, but I'm just saying.

(Sam Symons Live said @ #165.1)
People know about IE and Opera, right? It's Firefox's Download Day. They aren't going to cancel it so that other browsers have a chance. Not trying to be a ******, but I'm just saying.

Way to miss the point.

A agree with the post above you. It's lame.

(P1R4T3 said @ #165)
Its good to let people know of other browsers so that IE can get some good competition. And we get more choice.
Ive noticed something on neowin the other day but didn't bothered about writing in the thread. Though I agree its a good idea to sticky the Firefox thread, Opera 9.5 went final and it was posted on the software news. Neowin staff didn't know that there are good browsers out there besides Firefox. Now I'm telling you that there's something called Opera and its a browser.
Anyways, sending opera to the back and bringing firefox to the front page is lame. Yes sir, very lame.

Im not hijacking the firefox thread, but neowin shouldn't force its choice on people, let others decide FFS. Firefox fangirls can still hang on their tree, no need to come down, I got nothing against firefox. Im just showing that neowin is promoting one specific browser only; instead of showing the different choices.

Have a good day.


Your post reeks of I don't know what. No one FORCED you to download or use Firefox, and no one FORCED to read through a ton of comments whining about Opera like your comment is. Get over it; today had nothing to do with Opera.

(Joel said @ #165.3)
Your post reeks of I don't know what. No one FORCED you to download or use Firefox, and no one FORCED to read through a ton of comments whining about Opera like your comment is. Get over it; today had nothing to do with Opera.

You also didn't get the point at all. Way to go.

Reading these comments has to be the biggest waste of time I've ever seen. Opera fans are foaming at the mouth to see this Firefox news posted, trying to make anyone not using their browser of choice out to be an idiot. Not to mention the Firefox fans doing the same. It's all bulls*** people. If you've contributed to this nonsense, then you're obviously no better than those you have criticized.

Either be against dumb biased posts altogether, or shut your pie hole.

Only good thing about these comments is the one above me.

I support over 600 people in my office...i have never seen Opera on a single machine....I do not know a SINGLE person that uses Opera.

For anyone wondering why Opera doesn't make it to the front page, the reasoning is really very simple:

1. IE is Microsoft, and this is NeoWin after all. A new version of Internet Explorer is pretty much what this website was built to tell us about, and is a browser destined for adoption by the masses.

2. Safari is Apple, and therefore drama. As far as the Windows platform, Apple is the software developer we love to hate (they still can't get quicktime right), and they certainly didn't fail to live up to their reputation when they started the Safari-spreading controversy.

3. Firefox is opensource, and if you've ever come within a dozen yards of a Linux forum, you'll understand that opensource is crack to them. It is the ideal that all software must strive to become. It is perfection. It is the alpha and the omega. Of the people, by the people, for the people: this is Open Source™. This is FireFox. All hail the official browsing experience of Linux users everywhere! All hail l33t! All hail Caturday!

4. Opera's quick, stable, clean, and feature-rich. It lacks, however, what Apple and The Republic of Open Source couldn't possibly live without: a starved for hype fanbase more loyal to the Idea than to the software itself. Its users don't feel like they're pitted in a battle to the death against The Micro$oft. They don't emo over imagined decades of injustice (Apple) or have a fapgasm for an underdog that isn't even developing the extensions that are the primary justification for its use (Firefox).

Really, the best way to understand Firefox loyalty is to use Linux for a little while. It's really *very* creepy. Though many people will try to take the high road on pages like this one and say "use what you like", the reality is much more harsh: reject Firefox for any reason as a linux user, and the rest of the linux community will flat out shun you. In a battle for choice, you have but one.

...

And now the Opera users feel a little bit more special. :3

*goes to make a sammich*

im a little confused, maybe someone can help....

this is my first real attempt to give firefox a shot, and im liking it so far...

until I noticed how much ram its using (now I know i have 4gb, its not an issue)
but with both IE and firefox windows open on google.com, firefox is using 25mb, IE is using 8mb.
with continuous browsing on both, they keep going up, with firefox always using a good 10-15mb of ram more then IE7

normal?

(jesse said @ #158)
im a little confused, maybe someone can help....

this is my first real attempt to give firefox a shot, and im liking it so far...

until I noticed how much ram its using (now I know i have 4gb, its not an issue)
but with both IE and firefox windows open on google.com, firefox is using 25mb, IE is using 8mb.
with continuous browsing on both, they keep going up, with firefox always using a good 20-25mb of ram more then IE7

normal?


+1... Exactly what I was saying before.. i was looking forward to FF3.. but it is crap and so much slower.. i reverted back to FF2 and i'm sticking with FF2 and IE7 as my main browsers.

(j2006 said @ #158.1)

+1... Exactly what I was saying before.. i was looking forward to FF3.. but it is crap and so much slower.. i reverted back to FF2 and i'm sticking with FF2 and IE7 as my main browsers.

Its much faster for me...but I get over 100mb very easily.

Meh... thanks to this stupid promotion the servers are unusable. If you want it get it from Softpedia, their links are working.

The only thing I've seen so far which PLAIN SUCKS is the new design of the Page Info feature. I really often need to see what's Referer is, and now that's gone!

This day was a lot more underwhelming than I expected. Of course, I've been using FF3 since the release candidates started, so I didn't really get anything new out of this.

Usually I'm super-hyped about major updates to software I actually use.

I hate hate hate hate hate this so called "smart" location bar. I just want my previously typed URLs not suggestions based on what's in the url! Can this be turned off??? :angry:

edit: Found a solution! about:config, search for browser.urlbar, modify browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to TRUE! Happy days!

I hated it a lot at first, but it does learn. Try using it for a week or so. Otherwise there is a way to turn it off but I don't have that answer for you.

It seems nice and snappy. Not sure about the icons etc.
Hmm, i'm not sure if a good amount of downloads has been made though, such a fuss with the download problems and such.

Hmm.. I have a few problems, one of which is going to drive me mad at the moment.... quite often getting weird connection errors that I haven't seen before and as there is no fixed go button I can't instinctively move my hand to the right to click go to refresh! I'll learn eventually on that one, the other thing that would be good is some buttons for the zoom controls if there any extentions that do this yet that someone build for the RCs that would be appreciated.

I'm sticking to FF2, more than 60% of my plugins and addons
are not yet compatible with this version
loads of out cry on the plugin & addon site...
Guess not clicky click download for FF3 from me

(sycamore said @ #150)
I'm sticking to FF2, more than 60% of my plugins and addons
are not yet compatible with this version
loads of out cry on the plugin & addon site...
Guess not clicky click download for FF3 from me

You'd think the developers of the plugins would have noticed a new version was on the way and updated their work. It's not like they only had a 5-minute notice from Mozilla.

Installed it.. and am VERY disappointed!

Not only is this piece of crap slower than FF2, the interface looks like a cheap ugly copy of IE7!!


*Uninstalling FF3 and going back to FF2.. and back to using IE 7 & FF2 as my main browsers*

(j2006 said @ #149)
Installed it.. and am VERY disappointed!

Not only is this piece of crap slower than FF2, the interface looks like a cheap ugly copy of IE7!!


*Uninstalling FF3 and going back to FF2.. and back to using IE 7 & FF2 as my main browsers*

And I imagine your slow piece of crap computer is a cheap copy of a slide rule.

(Tempest said @ #149.1)
And I imagine your slow piece of crap computer is a cheap copy of a slide rule. :laugh:

I'd say 90% of posters here aren't old enough to know what slide rules are or looked like.

Oh come on, we know what a slide rule is....we learned about them in history class.

I've found the browser to perform better than firefox 2 on my mom's pentium 3. It's still slow to start up though.

My goodness I hate this awesomebar thing. In FF2 I had three links I put in there that I frequent. Now it's got personal stuff I'd rather folk not see.

And one of my "rare" extensions no longer work, even with a version bump. If any of you can look into "LinkVisitor" It would greatly help me out.

Sounds like you need Stealthier extension
- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306
Click the button to go into stealth mode so no history/cookies/downloads/etc are remembered. Then once you've finished jerking off to inter-racial squirrel porn (hot red on grey action! ) you simply come out of stealth mode and browse normally with no fear of having www.hardcoresquirrelsluts.com appear as an awesomebar result at an inopportune moment.

(Cryton said @ #146.1)
Sounds like you need Stealthier extension
- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306
Click the button to go into stealth mode so no history/cookies/downloads/etc are remembered. Then once you've finished jerking off to inter-racial squirrel porn (hot red on grey action! ) you simply come out of stealth mode and browse normally with no fear of having www.hardcoresquirrelsluts.com appear as an awesomebar result at an inopportune moment.

And how does one makes this extension work in FF3?

Wow. It doesn't work in 3.0 final, does it? Bizarrely the version compatible information says it's compatible with 3.0pre but not 3.0, so in this case I think using Nightly Tester Tools extension to disable the version compatibility check is appropriate.

(Cryton said @ #146.1)
Sounds like you need Stealthier extension
- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306
Click the button to go into stealth mode so no history/cookies/downloads/etc are remembered. Then once you've finished jerking off to inter-racial squirrel porn (hot red on grey action! ) you simply come out of stealth mode and browse normally with no fear of having www.hardcoresquirrelsluts.com appear as an awesomebar result at an inopportune moment.


No, you misunderstood the program =). I use LinkVisitor to mark all the links on a page as visited in conjunction with a j script button to hide visited links. It's useful. My hide all links button still works though, just need an update for LinkVisitor, which is rare.

I was replying to your

(Mike Frett said @ #146)
Now it's got personal stuff I'd rather folk not see.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear :)

edit: Stealthier 1.0.6 has just been released which is 3.0 compatible.

LinkVisitor is a plugin that I am really hoping gets a fix for Firefox 3 as well.


I use it for forums where there isn't a mark as read option, so I can easily track which topics are new.

I definately must say that Mozilla was caught with their pants down for this one... But, at least they are sort of working the kinks out now. I'm downloading it on my laptop via a web cafe in Vancouver, BC Canada, while my home machine is doing it as well via VNC (yeah I'm cheating, sue me :P )

But OMG, are the server's SLOW!!! Guys, go get some pron or something for a while so I can speed this beast up

Nah, they just mis-estimated... They guessed at a download rate of twice as many as Firefox 2 release, but it was closer to twelve times the download rate! But things were back to speed within an hour, so really, good job I think. Over 2m DLs in just over 6 hours is pretty good.

eh so what... Just to skew the numbers up I was running an app that downloaded the application every 5 seconds on our high speed connection at work.... point is... download numbers mean NOTHING.. its adoption rate and usage...

(neufuse said @ #137)
eh so what... Just to skew the numbers up I was running an app that downloaded the application every 5 seconds on our high speed connection at work.... point is... download numbers mean NOTHING.. its adoption rate and usage...

you just want to skew the numbers up because?

(3rd impact said @ #137.1)

you just want to skew the numbers up because?

Because downloads != adoption... setting "records" for downloading is bs and means nothing

As it has been said, the MD5 on releases.mozilla.org are as follows:

c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 ./win32/en-US/Firefox Setup 3.0.exe
c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 ./win32/en-US/Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe

I would assume this means RC3 is final.

LOL their "handy" IE vs. FF chart sure helped me decide which browser to use. Trouble is, there are checkmarks in the wrong columns. Too bad it's not very accurate.

I sure hope I get to download it on a specific day to contribute to a cause that no one will care about tomorrow.

Get a GTK theme loaded, buddy. :confused:

Uhh yeah, for some reason that happens in some Linux distros if I install it right off their site instead of popping into the repositories.

Is the file size for the FF3 supposed to be 7.8MB or 7.1MB cause everytime I get a chance to download it.. the size is always 7.1MB.....

But I now that I started the FF3 the welcome page now says that I have the latest version of FF...

You'd think Mozilla would be ready for this. Instead I keep getting "failure to connect to web server" and "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable". This sucks.

Has anyone in here been actually able to download FF3....
and when I am able to get on their site.. everything has FF3 but the dl link is 2.0.0.14...

This is so stupid...

I've been waiting for this...

Start reading....the links are posted for the 3.0
If you going to ask..you need to read your response right? righhht!

(PiNoYz said @ #114)
Has anyone in here been actually able to download FF3....
and when I am able to get on their site.. everything has FF3 but the dl link is 2.0.0.14...

This is so stupid...

I've been waiting for this...

I got mine officially US-EN win32 from the web page:

MD5: C971BB2273D24D62DD15DCDBD6030EA3
SHA-1: 91CF99EDBC4EB1EF6AF3179E6126ABC659309265
SHA-512: 29B9D44427B84C45C47F4DABEC3F50C1106E211EA8E47D41624B624DCBD919F6C784978E3081093F18C816C3D0F5EC91F37FA81ED6B840B11557FF40F034CE79

Date is June 11th, no RC3 screens.

Im going to venture a guess that the packages were not "packaged" correctly. As in if you browse their ftp you can find the final 3.0 however the welcome page says RC3. Firefox "about" section does just say Version 3.0 however when you install it. That might be why they changed the download links back to version 2 for now. Id say the RC3 ended up being the final version but they forgot to change the welcome page to reflect it.

Im guessing that they are fixing this and going to fix the links to point to the final 3.0 version.

This got to be joke or what..was able to reach the page and then click Firefox 3 download ....and on that page it got everything showing Firefox 3 but the icon says Firefox 3 Free Download but version 2.0.0.14

To damn funny!

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday

then click the icon it bring you to this site

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/down...&lang=en-US

I download it anyway and it is 2.0.0.14

Now I can believe that maybe they did errors by putting the wrong url ...but the ICON does say Firefox 3 download here and on the same icon say 2.0.0.14

WTH? lol

Ok a hard refresh took me from the old Firefox 2 page to the new Firefox 3 page but was still serving version 2 when I clicked the link. A few more refreshes later and now I have FF3 downloading. FINALLY.

If I use this link... http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firef...&lang=en-US

after the install... the welcome page says it's still just the FireFox RC3 Is the RC3 supposed to be the final version for the download day..????

Thank you for helping test this third Firefox 3 release candidate! This preview release is being made available for testing purposes only. You should read the release notes before getting started.

That's what my welcome page says...

(nonick said @ #89.3)


Thanks!

Edit: This is too RC3 :


It doesn�t say that in the about box, sorry if it is just sharing what I downloaded from a link on Neowin.



MD5: c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3
SHA1: 91cf99edbc4eb1ef6af3179e6126abc659309265

(Breach said @ #109)
I got mine officially US-EN win32 from the web page:

MD5: C971BB2273D24D62DD15DCDBD6030EA3
SHA-1: 91CF99EDBC4EB1EF6AF3179E6126ABC659309265
SHA-512: 29B9D44427B84C45C47F4DABEC3F50C1106E211EA8E47D41624B624DCBD919F6C784978E3081093F18C816C3D0F5EC91F37FA81ED6B840B11557FF40F034CE79

Date is June 11th, no RC3 screens.

He has the same MD5 and SHA1 as this torrent.

(BeLGaRaTh said @ #86)
@FireFoxFanBoy, tell your mate he's an idiot, the link he posted downloads RC3 and it says as such when you install it ...

Where do you live, the mirror i downloaded it from was FF3.

Bah, That's the problem with trying to set world records. They weren't prepared for the masses :(

Also, F-U- for any spammer on here :p

Neztea

lots of bored kids in this thread..

grow up already.. use what you like, why do you feel the urge to bash anything that you won't like?

(auxiliary said @ #67)
Mozilla's servers are getting pounded like a virgin on prom night.

(~Neowin~ said @ #3)
whats a prom night ?

Finish high school and you'll see. Night full of dancing, getting wasted, and uhh, pounding virgins. :P

I pledged, but by the time the servers work, i'll have forgotten to download so I probably won't count in the record, blah.

Is this the final MD5 ???

C971BB2273D24D62DD15DCDBD6030EA3

(Got it from the hippo website...)

Edit: Downloaded the RC (only one I could find on the FF website)

; Using hkSFV on 06.17.2008 at 20:27:00
;
;/----
; 7496920 20:06.28 2008-06-17 Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe
;----
;
c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 *Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe


????

But RC3 (that is RC2) on Windows is RTM, so that stands to reason, doesn't it?

c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe 7496920 bytes
c971bb2273d24d62dd15dcdbd6030ea3 Firefox Setup 3.0.exe 7496920 bytes

Wel,, guess I won't be a part of the record. Servers are down.
Good that I downloaded the final release earlier

How does a news article that has nothing to do with Opera end up with half of it's replies being about Opera?

TROLLS!!!, of course.


From this day forward (OK, actually I first made this commitment around the release of Firefox 1.0), I vow to never try Opera unless it's fanbois quit trolling.

I vow to never try Firefox unless it's its fanbois fanboys quit trolling. Except uh, yeah I use Firefox without anyone from the SpreadFirefox/random MS-is-evil/OSS is gee oh dee convincing me.

And ^^ get off your high horse. On some other site you expect everyone to listen to your views about voting for Vista UX features.

The irony is strong with this one. No browser has more die hard rabid fanboys than Firefox and this front page download day nonsense is a perfect example. In fact Opera gets the least attention over all the browsers in most media, it's not even included in some of the browser speed tests, yet you dare call us trolls for calling your advertising circus a joke.

Opera Rick Rolls all over FF.

(rm20010 said @ #57.2)
And ^^ get off your high horse. On some other site you expect everyone to listen to your views about voting for Vista UX features. :rolleyes:
OK, I'm sincerely curious, WTF are you talking about?

(ANova said @ #57.3)
The irony is strong with this one.
Maybe you should swim across the ocean?

(ANova said @ #57.3)
In fact Opera gets the least attention over all the browsers in most media, it's not even included in some of the browser speed tests, yet you dare call us trolls for calling your advertising circus a joke.
Maybe this is because as an actual product Opera is highly irrelevant?

For as many decent (great) ideas as Opera ASA has contributed to the web browser world, the product is marginalized by just as many bizarre and weird choices. e.g. The new skin for 9.5.

[edit]Wait, why am I talking about Opera? O yeah, I'm, responding to more trolling!!!

(shakey_snake said @ #57.4)
Maybe this is because as an actual product Opera is highly irrelevant?

For as many decent (great) ideas as Opera ASA has contributed to the web browser world, the product is marginalized by just as many bizarre and weird choices. e.g. The new skin for 9.5.

[edit]Wait, why am I talking about Opera? O yeah, I'm, responding to more trolling!!!


No actually, I was responding to your joke of a comment which you basically ignored. There was no trolling but since you already labeled me as one, well......

Opera

(shakey_snake said @ #57.4)
OK, I'm sincerely curious, WTF are you talking about? :blink:

Wasn't referring to you. See this. (didn't feel like quoting at the time 8) )

Maybe this is because as an actual product Opera is highly irrelevant?

For as many decent (great) ideas as Opera ASA has contributed to the web browser world, the product is marginalized by just as many bizarre and weird choices. e.g. The new skin for 9.5.

How is it an irrelevant product?

Ah....... reminds me of Disneyland, when it opened.

"Are we ready?? Yeah!! Turn on the rides it's time to let the kiddies in......"


Then nothing.. all was silent.

Oh well.... no way to break a record, if the record breaks your equipment!! I pledged, but I'll wait until there's a download available.

LOL... server is down. Nice way to try to break a record when you can't get to their site. The site is loading at Dial-up Speeds right now for me

Ooops...

Hey guys, lets get everyone to download at the same time, yet not make our infrastructure ready for that ****! Boo-ya!

Well every single Mozilla website is down right now, so until they get their servers back up, they won't be setting any world records.

Hey..... I guess they got more than they bargained for..... The entire Mozilla servers are down..... I guess thx to all the 1,750, 000 odd people trying to open the site simultaneously....

Web developers because if they had uniformly compliant browsers with the standards, the process of development would be less time consuming
The rest of us, we are simply geeks :P

FFS, will somebody from the admins just admit that Neowin is biased towards firefox against Opera so they will stop asking why OPera 9.5 isn't in the frontpage news.

(ArKeYa said @ #38)
FFS, will somebody from the admins just admit that Neowin is biased towards firefox against Opera so they will stop asking why OPera 9.5 isn't in the frontpage news.

Whiny Kid is Whiny.

Opera is NOT OPEN SOURCE.

(thenonhacker said @ #38.1)

Whiny Kid is Whiny.

Opera is NOT OPEN SOURCE.

Seriously, this Open Source is better than everything is plain childish. You are telling me you use linux without nvidia/ati proprietary drivers, and firefox sans flash or any closed-source plugin? Please...

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ gives me this:

Unable to connect to database server

If you still have to install Drupal, proceed to the installation page.

If you have already finished installed Drupal, this either means that the username and password information in your settings.php file is incorrect or that we can't connect to the MySQL database server. This could mean your hosting provider's database server is down.

The MySQL error was: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111.

Currently, the username is sfx_v2 and the database server is 10.2.70.136.

* Are you sure you have the correct username and password?
* Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname?
* Are you sure that the database server is running?

For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook. If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.

I like Opera because IT IS faster and more responsive than FF. I've timed it myself, though it is true that it depends on the computer, but for me personally both Opera and IE7 are faster than FF. As well, Opera uses a maximum of 26k mb of ram on my computer instead of FF2 whopping 170k mb of ram on my Vista system. IE7 is in between, but nowhere near the usage of FF2. This is with 5 tabs open with the same websites on all 3 browsers. Opera and IE7 will continue to be my main browsers.

In response to:

"Funny thing is YOU are doing the exact same thing, ie. "instead of stating what is actually so good about it." You haven't stated why YOU think Opera is much better and even if YOU did, it's YOUR opinion, not fact per se. Smelleth of a troll."

Yeah I forgot to click the quote button when I did this reply so it sort of started a new comment section.

I refuse to download this. Opera is a much better browser and like some people stated already, its hardly recognized by neowin. Firefox fanboys are worse than Mac fanboys since they try to force the software on you instead of stating what is actually so good about it. Also, the "world record" is a sham since there is no way to legitimately count the downloads. There are individuals that will repeatedly download it.

(Titoist said @ #34)
I refuse to download this. Opera is a much better browser and like some people stated already, its hardly recognized by neowin. Firefox fanboys are worse than Mac fanboys since they try to force the software on you instead of stating what is actually so good about it. Also, the "world record" is a sham since there is no way to legitimately count the downloads. There are individuals that will repeatedly download it.

Funny thing is YOU are doing the exact same thing, ie. "instead of stating what is actually so good about it." You haven't stated why YOU think Opera is much better and even if YOU did, it's YOUR opinion, not fact per se. Smelleth of a troll.

man don't loose sleep over it. I mean seriously....get over it. It is just another browser that people prefer from the rest out there.

Their is a lot of browsers to choose from...no one squeezing your arm to say get that one.

Different flavors for different people. Just turn out that they been working on a new version been a long while and today is the day they are releasing it.

You don't like the browser then don't bother with it. And the world record? who cares....let them have their fun.

Man ....you got people really going negative on the most simplest things in life for nothing. Get over it!

Tomorrow it will be a new day!

(ir0nw0lf said @ #34.1)

Funny thing is YOU are doing the exact same thing, ie. "instead of stating what is actually so good about it." You haven't stated why YOU think Opera is much better and even if YOU did, it's YOUR opinion, not fact per se. Smelleth of a troll.

ROFL 1000000x

PWNED!!!

Opera is nice.

but I saw one problem with it for me so far. It didn't render the Yahoo webmail properly for some reason...some text were cut off in the side menu...

I'll have to see if it still does it.

but Opera is definitely more appealing to use and stare at all day... lol


Firefox is still my primary used browser, using 2.0.14 on Vista Ultimate....I'm a poweruser with most times 15 - 25 tabs open all the time...

but I seem to be noticing the RAM usage getting out of control to the point where it looks like a Memory Leak...

Just go to http://releases.mozilla.org/ and check the sizes for both english versions of RC3. Notice how both sizes match the supposed "final 3.0" that's floating around. Just wait until after 10am PST to make absolutely sure you get the final 3.0. It's only two more hours. :)

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe (en-GB) = 7,330,864
Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe (en-US) = 7,496,920

Download Opera 9.5 and don't waste you time with Firefox.

It is very interesting that neowin admins put the link of download of FF at top of home page but don't make news about Opera 9.5!
You now why?

Because Firefox is made in USA but Opera is not!
And it is not important for them if other software company outside of USA are better!

So download FF because 24 hours advertisement is website, blogs and ... of USA and don't thinks there is a better life outside.
Most of people are flying with advertisements and don’t think.

Evanescence group have a song for this ...

Actually, it is probably because more people use Firefox than Opera. This isn't some war or epic battle that's taking place. The editors probably use Firefox and tend to favor it without thinking.

There is no conspiracy.

@ antareus .... this Opera vs Firefox thing , you could sorta look at it like this...

take MP3 players for example ... the IPOD has 'the name' established (this is Firefox) so everyone knows what that is..... where as even though there's probably better mp3 players out there than the ipod (this might be Opera) , the IPOD always gets the praise cause it was in the market at the right time etc etc.

i think you get the point i was saying.

p.s. me personally though i prefer Firefox over Opera cause i just never really liked the feel of Opera and it's Interface i never liked all that much either... Firefox was sorta like IE's which everyone already knows with it's Tools > Options sorta like internet explorer's 'internet options'.... plus that aside i feel the extensions in firefox make it a overall better choice of a web browser than opera cause of that to.

just some thoughts

(ThaCrip said @ #31.2)
p.s. me personally though i prefer Firefox over Opera cause i just never really liked the feel of Opera and it's Interface i never liked all that much either... Firefox was sorta like IE's which everyone already knows with it's Tools > Options sorta like internet explorer's 'internet options'.... plus that aside i feel the extensions in firefox make it a overall better choice of a web browser than opera cause of that to.

I would love Firefox if it used native widgets on each platform. Everything else about it is perfect, but it still feels 'off' a bit.

I wish there was a way to disable the menu accelerators (the underlined letters in each menu item) until I hold down alt, and the menus would fade in if that preference is set on the system.

Minor, but it still nags me.

(RainArt said @ #31)
Download Opera 9.5 and don't waste you time with Firefox.

It is very interesting that neowin admins put the link of download of FF at top of home page but don't make news about Opera 9.5!
You now why?

Because Firefox is made in USA but Opera is not!
And it is not important for them if other software company outside of USA are better!

So download FF because 24 hours advertisement is website, blogs and ... of USA and don't thinks there is a better life outside.
Most of people are flying with advertisements and don’t think.

Evanescence group have a song for this ...


This is what you really think? Are you out of your mind?

Ooookkkay, how did countries get involved in browser wars? Probably half of Neowin's staff are in Europe, Firefox has contributors over the world, Opera most likely has an American office as well....

(RainArt said @ #31)
Download Opera 9.5 and don't waste you time with Firefox.

It is very interesting that neowin admins put the link of download of FF at top of home page but don't make news about Opera 9.5! :blink:

Oh stop whining like a kid!

Why would I use a crappy browser like Opera?

(thenonhacker said @ #31.6)

Oh stop whining like a kid!

Why would I use a crappy browser like Opera?


And why people fight about their preferences? I like FF, you like FF, he likes Opera. GOOD FOR YOU. I'm going to send you a trophy for that. It's your own preference.

(RainArt said @ #31)
Download Opera 9.5 and don't waste you time with Firefox.

It is very interesting that neowin admins put the link of download of FF at top of home page but don't make news about Opera 9.5!
You now why?


First; don't troll the newspost by saying Get Opera. Read the rules recently?

Second; did Opera make any hype when they released their POINT release? Nope? Must be our fault.

(Joel said @ #31.8)

First; don't troll the newspost by saying Get Opera. Read the rules recently?

Second; did Opera make any hype when they released their POINT release? Nope? Must be our fault.


Seriously? And here I though news is news. :laugh:

Neowin.net - Where only hype is news

I certainly wont be Downloading Firefux, err I mean Firefox. Safari has a nicer interface and runs faster than FF.

Why not count how many times windows updates are downloaded in a day, and put that in the book of world records?

Firefox is a good program, but i hate the user base more than anything.

I'll most definately be sticking to Maxthon, and i'm sure millions of others will too.
Congrats on getting FF3 out the door, though.

Eh...I don't care about the record and I'll update it when I feel like it.

I'm apparently the only person more excited about The Political Machine 2008 than FF3 since they both have a release date that coincides today.

I don't get it. "Everyone download it the same day so we can say "ooooh we have more users than IE!"?"

Just because people download it, doesn't mean everyone is using it. So... what's the point. I've downloaded firefox about 20 times. I've installed it about 3 times and used it once (I'm a software developer and need it/sometimes think i need it to debug something i'm having issues with... never do.)

I'll never understand how people can commit suicide when there are things this exciting to live for. And who needs girls when we have Firefox? Today is just another snowy, frozen day in Canada, but when I look outside, it seems like summer. :nuts:

(justlooking said @ #23)
I'll never understand how people can commit suicide when there are things this exciting to live for. And who needs girls when we have Firefox? Today is just another snowy, frozen day in Canada, but when I look outside, it seems like summer. :nuts:

this is either the saddest post i've ever seen or the greatest sarcasm/trolljob in history. i really can't tell which.

I'm totally fapping in excitement and anticipation as I'm downloading the latest version of the best thing in the world.

For Windows and Linux users, RC2=RC3=Final. There are NO DIFFERENCES between RC2, RC3, and the Final, so if you already have RC2 or RC3, you already have the Final. There were no checkins for Windows or Linux since RC2, so that build is the Final build.

For MAC users, RC3 is the Final build. There was one checkin between RC2 and RC3 that made a difference. But none since RC3, so for MAC, if you already have RC3, you already have the Final build.

RC builds are branded and noted as Firefox/3.0, so there is no need to update to the "Final".

Wrong! Release candidate 3 was accepted for final release - that is the idea of a release candidate... once it gets the go ahead from QA it is released as is!

(testman said @ #21.3)

RC2 isn't the same as RC3, therefore he was wrong.
No, I was not wrong. The code did not change from RC2 to RC3 to Final. The only thing changed was the installer updated. The Firefox code, on Windows and Linux, for RC2, RC3, and Final is IDENTICAL. In fact, people running RC2 or RC3 on Windows or Linux will NOT get an auto update to the final because... THEY ALREADY HAVE IT.

OSX users saw a difference from RC2 to RC3. That was the only reason there was an RC3.

(fuzi0719 said @ #21.4)
No, I was not wrong. The code did not change from RC2 to RC3 to Final. The only thing changed was the installer updated. The Firefox code, on Windows and Linux, for RC2, RC3, and Final is IDENTICAL. In fact, people running RC2 or RC3 on Windows or Linux will NOT get an auto update to the final because... THEY ALREADY HAVE IT.

OSX users saw a difference from RC2 to RC3. That was the only reason there was an RC3.


Incorrect

The hash is different.
The "about" window that says RC2, RC3, etc is different so that means the code does change.

(neowinisnot said @ #21.5)

Incorrect

The hash is different.
The "about" window that says RC2, RC3, etc is different so that means the code does change.

No, I've been on the alpha and beta team for over a year.

If you're running Windows or Linux, the RC2 build is the same 2008052906 build as is RC3, which is the same as the Final. Only OSX had a checkin to fix a blocking bug on RC2, which is the only reason there was an RC3 to begin with.

So again, if ANYBODY, no matter the OS, is running RC3, you already have the final. RC3 and the Final are the EXACT SAME CODE. Not one byte of difference. On Windows, RC2, RC3, and FINAL have the same buildID because they are the same:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 ID:2008052906

(fuzi0719 said @ #21.6)
No, I've been on the alpha and beta team for over a year.

If you're running Windows or Linux, the RC2 build is the same 2008052906 build as is RC3, which is the same as the Final. Only OSX had a checkin to fix a blocking bug on RC2, which is the only reason there was an RC3 to begin with.

So again, if ANYBODY, no matter the OS, is running RC3, you already have the final. RC3 and the Final are the EXACT SAME CODE. Not one byte of difference.

(fuzi0719 said @ #21.6)
No, I've been on the alpha and beta team for over a year.

If you're running Windows or Linux, the RC2 build is the same 2008052906 build as is RC3, which is the same as the Final. Only OSX had a checkin to fix a blocking bug on RC2, which is the only reason there was an RC3 to begin with.

So again, if ANYBODY, no matter the OS, is running RC3, you already have the final. RC3 and the Final are the EXACT SAME CODE. Not one byte of difference. On Windows, RC2, RC3, and FINAL have the same buildID because they are the same:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 ID:2008052906


Alright mate, no need to go ape**** over it. You can continue to fap over your specific versions of Firefox, I'll continue to use it as and when I need to.

Well, Windows updates downloads to how many people in a 24 hour period on Patch Tuesdays?

So wouldn't that be the record?

I for one won't be downloading until the day is over as my e-penis is so big I already walk like a tripod.

(metallithrax said @ #20)
Well, Windows updates downloads to how many people in a 24 hour period on Patch Tuesdays?

So wouldn't that be the record?

I for one won't be downloading until the day is over as my e-penis is so big I already walk like a tripod.

LOL ! So true Ehhh... Fanboys.

So am I missing something, is 3.0 Final yet, or is it just RC3 and they want everyone to download RC3 just to break a record?

3.0 is not final yet. What's in the directories is the RC3 build (verified by hash checking the files as well as checking the timestamp and file sizes with the ones in the RC3 folder). The Mozilla organisation want you to download it from 10am PST (6pm BST) as that's when the final builds are posted on the FTP servers. What's there now ISN'T the final.

(testman said @ #19.1)
3.0 is not final yet. What's in the directories is the RC3 build (verified by hash checking the files as well as checking the timestamp and file sizes with the ones in the RC3 folder). The Mozilla organisation want you to download it from 10am PST (6pm BST) as that's when the final builds are posted on the FTP servers. What's there now ISN'T the final.

As far as I'm concerned, I have 3.0, and not 3.0 RC3.

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)

(Exosphere said @ #19.2)

As far as I'm concerned, I have 3.0, and not 3.0 RC3.

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)


Weird, cos the size you quoted is for the RC2 build. Not sure what's going on... check the FTP servers now and see what I mean. The RC3 releases folder contains the same file as in the 3.0 releases folder. The RC2 folder has a file size exactly the same as you have posted.

(Exosphere said @ #19.2)

As far as I'm concerned, I have 3.0, and not 3.0 RC3.

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)

im gonna have to agree with him.... i dont see WHY mozilla would put a RC in a 'releases' folder as i seriously doubt they would do that as before if they had a beta or rc version it would be put into a rc or beta folder accordingly and not in a realease folder.

and also.... i was viewing that folder a little before 315am eastern time and it was empty and a little after that i refresh it in my FlashFXP and it had all the files that you normally see with a final release..... plus the folder's time it was made was 6-16-08.... so as far as i can tell it was made in anticipation of someone finally adding the final when it was ready.

so ill be pretty suprized if the version i have turns out to not actually be the final version.

Well check the folders on the FTP server. What's in the RC3 directory (at least for Win32) is the same as in the 3.0 directory.

We're probably all right. It wouldn't surprise me if what's in the RC3 directory right now is intended for a final release anyway.

(testman said @ #19.5)
Well check the folders on the FTP server. What's in the RC3 directory (at least for Win32) is the same as in the 3.0 directory.

We're probably all right. It wouldn't surprise me if what's in the RC3 directory right now is intended for a final release anyway.

I think you might be right about that, who knows though - maybe there's another build out today despite a "V3.0" already being available.

(Exosphere said @ #19.6)

I think you might be right about that, who knows though - maybe there's another build out today despite a "V3.0" already being available.


OK, I've downloaded RC2, RC3 and "final" from the respective folders using FileZilla instead of using the browser.

At this present moment these are the MD5 hashes:

RC2 - 0822AAE0EBF700881B9D3CDB96C9DBCA
RC3 - 8284A15C2D58A3237891B0D17D85661C
"Final" - 8284A15C2D58A3237891B0D17D85661C

Where did you get your "3.0 final" file from, cos the one on the server right now is 7,330,864 bytes, not what you quoted above?

(testman said @ #19.7)

OK, I've downloaded RC2, RC3 and "final" from the respective folders using FileZilla instead of using the browser.

At this present moment these are the MD5 hashes:

RC2 - 0822AAE0EBF700881B9D3CDB96C9DBCA
RC3 - 8284A15C2D58A3237891B0D17D85661C
"Final" - 8284A15C2D58A3237891B0D17D85661C

Where did you get your "3.0 final" file from, cos the one on the server right now is 7,330,864 bytes, not what you quoted above?

7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes) , that's the file size of what i got now.

(testman said @ #19.9)
Yeah but where did you get it? And the md5 hash? Check the folder on the FTP server now and verify it for yourself.

i got it from the ftp server around 315am est (which put it a little past 12am on the 17th for California's time which is where the main Mozilla foundation is located according to there website) in the 'release' folder not long before that there was basically zero files in that folder... so it's gotta be the final.

as for MD5 it is... C971BB2273D24D62DD15DCDBD6030EA3 ... which is what i uploaded here... http://download.yousendit.com/9109B66659036EF1

EDIT: for RC3 i get a MD5 of 0AE2876250C4A63597E418AC9F351B64

I went to firefox.com copied the link for version 2.0.0.14 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-2.0.0.14&os=win&lang=en-GB) changed the 2.0.0.14 to 3.0 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and I got a file.

However as mention when I installed it I got the RC3 welcome page and when I go to help>release notes I get the release notes for RC3 so I'm pretty sure that the version I have here is for RC3 not final.

I'll just reinstall tomorrow with a final version.

(lardboy said @ #19.11)
I went to firefox.com copied the link for version 2.0.0.14 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-2.0.0.14&os=win&lang=en-GB) changed the 2.0.0.14 to 3.0 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and I got a file.

However as mention when I installed it I got the RC3 welcome page and when I go to help>release notes I get the release notes for RC3 so I'm pretty sure that the version I have here is for RC3 not final.

I'll just reinstall tomorrow with a final version.

that's what i did to lol but it appears to have worked.

but the one im running i got from there official ftp server.

(ThaCrip said @ #19.10)


i got it from the ftp server around 315am est (which put it a little past 12am on the 17th for California's time which is where the main Mozilla foundation is located according to there website) in the 'release' folder not long before that there was basically zero files in that folder... so it's gotta be the final.

as for MD5 it is... C971BB2273D24D62DD15DCDBD6030EA3 ... which is what i uploaded here... http://download.yousendit.com/9109B66659036EF1

EDIT: for RC3 i get a MD5 of 0AE2876250C4A63597E418AC9F351B64

Was just wondering, you got the en-US version didn't you? I downloaded the en-GB version. That's probably where the confusion rises.
(lardboy said @ #19.11)
I went to firefox.com copied the link for version 2.0.0.14 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-2.0.0.14&os=win&lang=en-GB) changed the 2.0.0.14 to 3.0 (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and I got a file.

However as mention when I installed it I got the RC3 welcome page and when I go to help>release notes I get the release notes for RC3 so I'm pretty sure that the version I have here is for RC3 not final.

I'll just reinstall tomorrow with a final version.

No, you get the correct webpage that hasn't been updated yet.

Its probably going to take 24hrs to download with all the people who are going to be jumping in to download it, bringing their servers to its knees, what with 1.5M already pledging and its still 5hrs or so before it launches and the americans havent woken up yet

I'll download it just because I like to be up to date on all the software I have. Although I won't wait up until 1am (Western Australia Time) to download it to be part of the record. I can wait as it's no big deal for me

still ie7 i say, firefox still doesnt render all of the webpages........ that ie7 can. i use both, mostly firefox now just for one reason, if i shut or pc restarts somhow session can be restored.

that's because IE doesn't stick to web standards. Web developers have to write proper code, then hack it to work with IE.

There will come a time soon when developers will stop hacking stuff and leave the code as correct standard, forcing people to use an alternative browser or wait till IE8 is released.

It's the RC3 version. Check the timestamp, file size and hash check it and compare all to the "final". The proper final version isn't up yet.

(arcane47 said @ #13)
Let set a world record for the amount of fanboy and flame posts about IE7 / Opera / Firefox, and which is better.

Yay!

Opera, obviously. FF is just....meh.

i see.... like i say rc3 is probably same version as the final of v3.0 but probably just removed the rc parts of it.

plus when you get rc3 it shows rc3 as part of the file name when downloading where as the one i linked to just shows 'Firefox Setup 3.0'

(ThaCrip said @ #12.1)
i see.... like i say rc3 is probably same version as the final of v3.0 but probably just removed the rc parts of it.

plus when you get rc3 it shows rc3 as part of the file name when downloading where as the one i linked to just shows 'Firefox Setup 3.0' ;)


Wrong. It's the EXACT same file. Do a hash check of the RC3 file and then compare to the "final".

either way like i said above i got my copy from the 'releases' folder on firefox's official ftp server so i must have the real deal and not a rc regardless of if the RC3 shows or does not show in the help about stuff ;)

i have uploaded it to yousendit.com for those who want to try downloading it there... http://download.yousendit.com/9109B66659036EF1 (this is exact same one i downloaded from the releases folder under the 3.0 section etc ;))

(ThaCrip said @ #11.1)
either way like i said above i got my copy from the 'releases' folder on firefox's official ftp server so i must have the real deal and not a rc regardless of if the RC3 shows or does not show in the help about stuff ;)

i have uploaded it to yousendit.com for those who want to try downloading it there... http://download.yousendit.com/9109B66659036EF1 (this is exact same one i downloaded from the releases folder under the 3.0 section etc ;))

This is the RC3 version, same md5 hash, timestamp and file size.

(testman said @ #11.2)

This is the RC3 version, same md5 hash, timestamp and file size.

well one thing dont add up... WHY would mozilla put a RC in the 'releases' folder?

(ThaCrip said @ #11.3)

well one thing dont add up... WHY would mozilla put a RC in the 'releases' folder?


You tell me. It's definitely the same file as in the RC3 folder. It wouldn't surprise me if this is intended as the final build anyway.

you sure cause im currently using Firefox 3 final right now although i did not get it from that link i got it from there official ftp server which was here .... ftp.mozilla.org and went to the "/pub/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/" section and mine does not list 'Release Candidate 3' at all in it.

but i dont think that release i linked to above is RC3 cause it would say RC3 in it's name of the file if it was a RC... im fairly sure it's the final.

it might take you to the RC3 website after u install it but thats cause mozilla aint updated there stuff yet.... cause look at it this way goto google or something and you can see the top of the web browser it dont list RC2 or anything like that it just says... "Google - Mozilla Firefox"

(ThaCrip said @ #8.1)
you sure cause im currently using Firefox 3 final right now although i did not get it from that link i got it from there official ftp server which was here .... ftp.mozilla.org and went to the "/pub/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/" section and mine does not list 'Release Candidate 3' at all in it.

but i dont think that release i linked to above is RC3 cause it would say RC3 in it's name of the file if it was a RC... im fairly sure it's the final.

it might take you to the RC3 website after u install it but thats cause mozilla aint updated there stuff yet.... cause look at it this way goto google or something and you can see the top of the web browser it dont list RC2 or anything like that it just says... "Google - Mozilla Firefox"


Yep it is the RC3 one, same build as the one in the RC3 directory as well as same timestamps and file size.

It's downloading 3.0 for me, and NOT RC3
I had RC3 installed, that link gives me a different size file, diff timestamp and it's certainly not showing RC3 on Firefox now - I'm using it now to post this, and it clearly shows 3.0

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)

(A Geek Of All said @ #6)
It's Official, FireFox Fanboys Have Totally Lost Their Minds

You People Need To Get A Life

:nuts:


+1. It's not even that good compared to IE7 and Opera 9.5!

Internet Explorer 7/Opera 9.5 > FireFox 3

P.S. Something puzzles me here. Why has no one has done this sort of thing before???

(MightyJordan said @ #6.1)

+1. It's not even that good compared to IE7 and Opera 9.5!

Internet Explorer 7/Opera 9.5 > FireFox 3

P.S. Something puzzles me here. Why has no one has done this sort of thing before???

i think it's a pretty safe bet that FF3 beats IE7 quite easily in overall performance from what i have seen especially in memory usage dept as that had improved quite a bit over version 2 of firefox... Opera is Firefox's only 'real' competition.... to bad the article i did see did not have Opera compared in it which i dont know why as they where using Safari in the test which is a joke lol

the last time i tried opera myself was a while back and even though it was not bad i just never really liked the interface/feel of it vs Firefox in general... plus with Firefox's extension i think that give it the edge as the best overall browser out there in my opinion.

P.S. Something puzzles me here. Why has no one has done this sort of thing before???

What, went around trolling a tech news site for no real reason? People have been doing that for years, you're no exception.

(MightyJordan said @ #6.1)

+1. It's not even that good compared to IE7 and Opera 9.5!

Internet Explorer 7/Opera 9.5 > FireFox 3

P.S. Something puzzles me here. Why has no one has done this sort of thing before???

Does IE7 have Add-ons? Useful ones? No?

(MightyJordan said @ #6.1)

+1. It's not even that good compared to IE7 and Opera 9.5!

Internet Explorer 7/Opera 9.5 > FireFox 3


What is Opera?

The Browser Wars is only for IE and Firefox.

Who or what is this Opera?

Poor browser is trying hard to fit into the Browser Wars.

I'd rather use IE than use Opera.

WOW I'M so thankful there is no "OperaTabs" addon.
I'll only use "IETabs" for Firefox.
But "OperaTabs"??? Is that even possible?

(thenonhacker said @ #6.6)


Right... IE7Pro is the ultimate COPYCAT of many Firefox Plugins.

There's something inherrently funny aout someone claiming a IE plugin is the copy of many FF plugins... especially since all the plugins it "copies" are extensions that are copied from Opera.

but it couldn't be that IEPro/MAxthon have borrowed ideas form Opera rather than a million unconected and often conflicting extensions... could it...

(thenonhacker said @ #6.7)
[b]What is Opera?

The Browser Wars is only for IE and Firefox.

Who or what is this Opera?

Poor browser is trying hard to fit into the Browser Wars.

WOW I'M so thankful there is no "OperaTabs" addon.
I'll only use "IETabs" for Firefox.
But "OperaTabs"??? Is that even possible?


Wow, what did Opera do to **** you off so much?

(thenonhacker said @ #6.7)
But "OperaTabs"??? Is that even possible?
[/b]

'OperaTabs?' Seriously what the eff are you smoking? x)

(thenonhacker said @ #1)



Right... IE7Pro is the ultimate COPYCAT of many Firefox Plugins.


Well no its not it a single IE plug in that allows access to many individual sub plugins. The IE plugin system has been there for a while.


Besides it's not like Firefox plugins have never been written to emulate features in another browser/plugin or software package

(ThaCrip said @ #6.2)
i think it's a pretty safe bet that FF3 beats IE7 quite easily in overall performance from what i have seen especially in memory usage dept as that had improved quite a bit over version 2 of firefox... Opera is Firefox's only 'real' competition.... to bad the article i did see did not have Opera compared in it which i dont know why as they where using Safari in the test which is a joke lol

the last time i tried opera myself was a while back and even though it was not bad i just never really liked the interface/feel of it vs Firefox in general... plus with Firefox's extension i think that give it the edge as the best overall browser out there in my opinion.


I have to agree with you about the interface. I can't get used to Opera's either. I like IE7, because it's minimal. You've got the top bar that all programs have, you've then got the back and forward buttons below it, along with the address basr and the search bar on the same link, then you've got the tabs below it, and you've got that tiny bar at the bottom of the page. It all adds up to about 120 pixels (@ 1680x1050 resolution).

BTW, I never thought I'd do it, but I've downloaded FF3, and just from loading up Neowin, I'm already impressed! It was fast as hell! When I'm typing it in, it even shows the threads I've recently visited, and the sections in the forums! I think it's just converted me! If anyone here can get me search aliases for FireFox 3, I'll be a full convert (i'm talking about typing in a letter and then what I'm searching for. IE7 with IE7Pro and Opera can do it, but not as good as IE7Pro)!

I told you so - Neowin is soooo pro FF site.
When Opera 9.5 was Final and ready to download
it was posted in the software news only - never made to the main page.
I won't participate in setting the record - Opera is great for me.

(PrEzi said @ #4)
I told you so - Neowin is soooo pro FF site.
When Opera 9.5 was Final and ready to download
it was posted in the software news only - never made to the main page.
I won't participate in setting the record - Opera is great for me.

+1. I'm an IE7 user, but I love Opera. I just feel more at home with IE7 as long as it has IE7Pro installed as well. I would have Opera 9.5 installed on my PC, but the problem is that it's my dad's PC, and he prefers IE7. Last time I installed Opera on his PC, he went loopy, because he didn't know how to use it! :D

Yes, my dad is a n00b. All he knows to do on a PC is burn DVDs with Nero, and shop online. He still can't check his Hotmail account properly! He's no worse than my mum, though. She doesn't even know how to get onto Hotmail!

(PrEzi said @ #4)
I told you so - Neowin is soooo pro FF site.
When Opera 9.5 was Final and ready to download
it was posted in the software news only - never made to the main page.
I won't participate in setting the record - Opera is great for me.

Me too..using IE8 (with emulated IE7 mode)...i rare use firefox..but i am interested to download it now..anyway i am not a hater of this event nor fanboy of ie

(PrEzi said @ #4)
I told you so - Neowin is soooo pro FF site.
When Opera 9.5 was Final and ready to download
it was posted in the software news only - never made to the main page.
I won't participate in setting the record - Opera is great for me.

A point release should have merited a newspost like this?

Also; did Opera hype the release the way the Mozilla community did? Not that I remember.

(Joel said @ #4.6)

A point release should have merited a newspost like this?

Also; did Opera hype the release the way the Mozilla community did? Not that I remember.


Then you're clearly not a part of the Opera community. Opera doesn't do drastic numbering changes for the most part. Before 9.5 Opera was at 9.27 (and before that 9.26, 9.25, and so on). The jump from 9.27 to 9.5 will not be as big as the jump to Opera 10, but it was viewed as being a bit more radical than just a point release. The entire Opera community was pretty hyped up over it.

Firefox, perhaps by virtue of being Netscape's rebirth or perhaps by simply having a superior marketing team, has the spotlight when it comes to underdog browsers. There's nothing wrong with that, but I'll agree with PrEzi in saying that it'd be nice if technology-focused sites attempted equal coverage of the various browsers. I don't think it'd get many people to switch, but it's always nice to know when big changes happen so that we readers can go and take a look.

(Joel said @ #4.6)
A point release should have merited a newspost like this?

Also; did Opera hype the release the way the Mozilla community did? Not that I remember.

Well, Firefox 1.5 beta 1 was on the front page. To be fair Opera 8.5 was also on the front page, though IMO Opera 8.5 was only special in that its licensing model changed.

I think some users on the Net are still stuck in the mindset that Opera's this large bloated browser that is adware. Those are probably the same people who need Firefox convertees to disguise Firefox as the IE icon to stop them from using IE.

(thenonhacker said @ #4.5)
But Firefox is WAY so much better than Opera!

Define 'so much better.'

(Ledgem said @ #4.7)

Then you're clearly not a part of the Opera community.

LOL, I'm not part of the Firefox 'community' either. Which should tell you that Mozilla made a hell of a lot larger effort to promote their product than the Opera folks. If Opera chooses to SQUANDER what could be big hype for them (ie. a full versions release over a point release), then that's their business, not ours. We're reporting news, and this is news.

(PrEzi said @ #4)
I told you so - Neowin is soooo pro FF site.
When Opera 9.5 was Final and ready to download
it was posted in the software news only - never made to the main page.
I won't participate in setting the record - Opera is great for me.

Yea I know. Was expecting it myself. It's really both pathetic and funny. A serious tech site doesn't report about a big update to a modern browser. And a browser that always lead the browser technology.

Firefox is good, but the hype just silly.

(rm20010 said @ #4.8)

Well, Firefox 1.5 beta 1 was on the front page. To be fair Opera 8.5 was also on the front page, though IMO Opera 8.5 was only special in that its licensing model changed.

I think some users on the Net are still stuck in the mindset that Opera's this large bloated browser that is adware. Those are probably the same people who need Firefox convertees to disguise Firefox as the IE icon to stop them from using IE.

Define 'so much better.' :rolleyes:

Firefox is okay but crashes far too much. IE is worse. Opera 9.5 final rarely crashes. And runs in Vista perfectly. I've been using Opera since the adware days. It's nothing like those days. loads pages very fast, nifty foward button and mouse gestures by default. Only real reason I still use firefox is because Roboform doesn't work in Opera.

Do people really care about that record so much? I'm not, but I guess I'll download the thing again when the record counting will start, just to give a plus one.

the heck with the record, as it's not all THAT important.

what is important is 'using' Firefox 3 and that's what im helping people do with the link i posted above ;)

i just got the link above for people who want it now and dont want to wait til the link is officially on firefox's website.

but that link i posted to is legit even though it takes you to that 'thanks for helping test release candidate 3' etc etc it is the real thing cause it's in the releases folder on there official site and i got mine from there official ftp site earlier.

Nice one, thanks very much ... I'd rather have it now than wait until tonight.
I like firefox, but I'm no fanboy, so I don't care about world records and waiting for a slow download when the rest of the world is trying to download the same thing.

The firefox site is a joke for not posting the time of download being available, finally they posted a time on the forum.

(coolio319 said @ #2.2)
Thats the RC3 you linked to...

No it's not, I had RC3 installed previously, that link has just installed 3 FINAL for me.

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)

Wait until 10am PDT so that the build can be spread to all mirrors. Until then, posting links puts undue stress on only a few of the mirrors.


:rolleyes:

(brianshapiro said @ #2.7)
Can someone upload a copy on a different server, so people who want it don't have to add to Mozilla's download count?

Please don't.

(Exosphere said @ #2.3)

No it's not, I had RC3 installed previously, that link has just installed 3 FINAL for me.

Firefox Setup 3.0 RC 3.exe = 6.99 MB (7,330,864 bytes)
Firefox Setup 3.0.exe = 7.14 MB (7,496,920 bytes)

If you already had RC3 installed, you already had the final. There is NO DIFFERENCE. The code did not change, in fact your RC3 build wouldn't even do an auto update because it is already the final build.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 ID:2008052906 is the UserAgent/BuildID for RC2 and RC3 and FINAL on Windows.

People who were running RC2 did not get an auto update to RC3 because they're the same, and they won't get it for Final because it is the same.

Are they counting IPs or just downloads.
If its just downloads I willing to just download several times using a batch script just to help out with the record.

(Express said @ #1.1)
Are they counting IPs or just downloads.
If its just downloads I willing to just download several times using a batch script just to help out with the record.

I think that would defeat the purpose.

That said, I think the whole idea is rather silly.