Firefox for Windows 8 Metro development officially starts

In February, Mozilla announced that it would be developing a version of its Firefox web browser that will work on Windows 8, both in its desktop version and with the new Metro style user interface. At the time, Mozilla said that the Metro version of Firefox would require a lot more development work than the desktop version, saying it would need "a new Firefox front end and system integration points."

Today, Mozilla programmer Brian Bondy revealed that the actual development work for Firefox on Windows 8 Metro has officially begun (actually, he said the team started work on Monday).

Bondy goes over some interesting tidbits of information that the team has already discovered while making the browser. One is that if Firefox is not selected in Windows 8 to be the default web browser, it can't be used in the Metro UI. This was apparently a decision made by Microsoft, for some unknown reason.

Bondy says that Mozilla will mainly be using the Windows Runtime C++ Template Library to create Firefox for Windows 8 Metro. He also is asking for others to help pitch in on this new project, stating, "Please sync up with us in #windev on IRC or email me directly at netzen at gmail.com."

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Mozilla can't even match their own concepts half the time, which leads me to believe they won't be able to follow the Metro guidelines either.

I really don't like metro and aero separately. Is like living in 2 worlds at once..... I rather they make like visual studio 11. Metro design on a standard aero application.

FalseAgent said,

Knowing Mozilla, it will matter.

Knowing Mozilla, they won't have the funds necessary to maintain yet another FF shell.

Aethec said,

Knowing Mozilla, they won't have the funds necessary to maintain yet another FF shell.

it would come at the expense of Linux, OSX variant
Just wait!

Aethec said,

Knowing Mozilla, they won't have the funds necessary to maintain yet another FF shell.

Knowing Mozilla, they over $150 000 000 in revenues from donations from partners.

Meph said,

Knowing Mozilla, they over $150 000 000 in revenues from donations from partners.

And they still do not have media playback capabilities to match IE.

_Heracles said,
Knowing Mozilla, it will flunk.
Yeah, cause Firefox is so unpopular?

_Heracles said,
And they still do not have media playback capabilities to match IE.
The reasons are philosophical, not material.

Kirkburn said,
Yeah, cause Firefox is so unpopular?

The reasons are philosophical, not material.


Popular doesn't mean good in any way or form.

Philosophical reasons? That is the worst excuse ever for holding back the world wide web - there should be no need for plugins to play video and audio. Basics shouldn't be for plugins - plugins should handle things like high performance 3D gaming, etc.

_Heracles said,

And they still do not have media playback capabilities to match IE.

Because they are a charity and all of their software is open source. Therefore, they would be breaking their free software license if they used H.264 or MP3. They're trying to encourage all the browser vendors to support free video formats like WebM so that everyone is able to freely support video on the web.

Meph said,

Because they are a charity and all of their software is open source. Therefore, they would be breaking their free software license if they used H.264 or MP3. They're trying to encourage all the browser vendors to support free video formats like WebM so that everyone is able to freely support video on the web.

h264 and MP3 is free, they come included with your OS.

They just need to support OS provided codecs, which shouldn't break their dumb licensing system. Because if it would, so would Firefox users installing non-free browser plugins and addons.

There is no point in using a browser so vastly inferior.

_Heracles said,
They just need to support OS provided codecs, which shouldn't break their dumb licensing system. Because if it would, so would Firefox users installing non-free browser plugins and addons.

No, users installing their own stuff on their Firefox has no effect whatsoever on Firefox's license - cause users aren't Mozilla.

Besides, using OS codecs is akin to plugins.

Kirkburn said,

No, users installing their own stuff on their Firefox has no effect whatsoever on Firefox's license - cause users aren't Mozilla.

Besides, using OS codecs is akin to plugins.


... exactly

_Heracles said,
... exactly

As I previously said, the issue is more philosophical than material. Besides, Linux shouldn't be left out cold.

Kirkburn said,

As I previously said, the issue is more philosophical than material. Besides, Linux shouldn't be left out cold.

It isn't. Android has media capabilities. And... mozilla has recently announced adding h264 support for their phone version of Firefox.

Desktop Linux users have enough brainpower to get FFDShow (if they didn't, they would be using MAC/WINDOWS which doesn't have problems).

_Heracles said,
It isn't. Android has media capabilities. And... mozilla has recently announced adding h264 support for their phone version of Firefox.

Did they? Could you point me to the article where this was announced?

DARKFiB3R said,

You shouldn't talk about your mother like that.

I know, have a little respect she did give birth to you after all.

While Metro on W8 is an acquired taste so far ... some like it, some don't ... at least Mozilla
appears to be leading the way to be the first of the "alternative" browser makers, to make
a version of their browser to run within the new Metro tiles GUI.

So far, have we heard anything from Google as to whether they plan to make a version
of Chrome for W8 Metro? Have Opera announced anything similar? Or Apple?

DJGM said,
While Metro on W8 is an acquired taste so far ... some like it, some don't ... at least Mozilla
appears to be leading the way to be the first of the "alternative" browser makers, to make
a version of their browser to run within the new Metro tiles GUI.

So far, have we heard anything from Google as to whether they plan to make a version
of Chrome for W8 Metro? Have Opera announced anything similar? Or Apple?

http://i.imgur.com/WX6gP.png

DJGM said,
While Metro on W8 is an acquired taste so far ... some like it, some don't ... at least Mozilla
appears to be leading the way to be the first of the "alternative" browser makers, to make
a version of their browser to run within the new Metro tiles GUI.

So far, have we heard anything from Google as to whether they plan to make a version
of Chrome for W8 Metro? Have Opera announced anything similar? Or Apple?

They'll either will now because Mozilla is going to get there first or wait until Windows 8 is actually released.

It's actually a good idea they've started now since by the time Windows 8 will be released they'll have finished product to present and added to the market place.

.Neo said,
Exclusive and very first screen shot of the beta version. Remember you saw it here first!

http://i40.tinypic.com/34s0wn5.png


This is completely fake.... They just started development, so it can't be beta. And there is no way they would just have a url bar like that... They stated it would be semi-metro, i don't even know how to describe this..

CJEric said,

The font rendering is a little off.

You can see it running in OS X font rendering mode, a new feature!

thealexweb said,
If someone says fast and fluid one more time...

Well, . . . it's the best way to describe the joy of the Metro interface.

Neobond said,
Not cool.

Sorry you're absolutely right, it's extremely serious business nobody should be able to make a lighthearted joke about.

.Neo said,

You can see it running in OS X font rendering mode, a new feature!

so freaking blurry, what a pain to read.

х.iso said,

so freaking blurry, what a pain to read.

That's just your eyes acting up after years of counting individual pixels.

CJEric said,

At least I'm not parroting the company line...


No, but he does have a point, mainly because Metro actually looks, "nice," & isn't just a bar with Comic Sans or something words in it that looks like it was done in MS Paint...

SharpGreen said,

Don't worry they aren't getting rid of the regular version.

and, the regular version isn't that great-looking either actually.

Now THIS could prove interesting, let's hope they can get a workable alpha or nightly build out pronto... like, yesterday even.