Flash video finally comes to iPhone and iPad ... sort of

The folks at Apple don't care much for the products made by Adobe. Apple continues to refuse to add native support for Adobe's Flash-based video and apps on its iPad and iPhone devices. Now Adobe has launched a new version of one of its products that will allow video makers to get around Apple's iOS ban of Flash and have their creations show up on the iOS devices. The Adobe Flash Media Server 4.5 product makes this happen in part because of Apple's support of HTTP Live Streaming.

In basic terms Flash video creators can use Flash Media Server 4.5 to run their creations on their local server and then stream those videos to products like the iPhone and iPad in a format that those devices support. That should finally open up a ton of videos that are still based on Flash to be shown on Apple's mobile products. The video is also run on the server rather than the device itself which should allow iPhones and iPads to access them without as much processor power, battery drain or the buggy crashes that can happen when running Flash videos natively.

While this will be a huge change for Flash-based video makers, there's a catch. The Adobe Flash Media Server 4.5 still won't allow for iOS products to run other Flash-based applications such as animations, games and Flash-heavy web site designs. Adobe Flash Media Streaming Server 4.5 is now on sale for server operators for at $995 while Adobe Flash Media Interactive Server 4.5 is on sale for $4,500.

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Apple are just being dicks. They should let the customer decide if they want to use flash or not. They could always issue a disclaimer saying that they don't recommend it and that it may seriously limit battery live, but what the hey. There's no reason why they should block it completely.

Hmm... let's see...

Either wait for people to make Flash videos to spend thousands of dollars on setting up a Flash Media Server, OR don't wait & just run them all in Skyfire, plus take advantage of the fact that if YouTube is what you're worrying about than iOS already supports that.

Adobe, unless this does something Skyfire doesn't, *cough*ACTIONSCRIPT PLEASE!*cough* I say no. Or, you could, I dunno, not use Apple products...

holy cow, that hurt!! just reading it brought pain in my chest. who in their right mind would pay for this? i mean i like flash and all that but not that much:(

Doesn't matter if it's flash or standard encoded media it all drains your battery and chews up your processors usage. Good work adobe trying but quite honestly they shouldn't bother and just leave apple and it's users to their primitive web content without choice.

Digitalx said,
Doesn't matter if it's flash or standard encoded media it all drains your battery and chews up your processors usage. Good work adobe trying but quite honestly they shouldn't bother and just leave apple and it's users to their primitive web content without choice.

word.

Huh, and people were talking **** when Steve Jobs called adobe for this kind of crap who in the ****ing right mind would pay for this? Sorry not a Mac Fan Boi but some Microsoft Fan Bois need to learn.

I just enjoy laughing at Apple fanboys. There are millions of apps, games, videos that use flash and that's a lot of content they're missing out on.

Ricky65 said,
I just enjoy laughing at Apple fanboys. There are millions of apps, games, videos that use flash and that's a lot of content they're missing out on.

Apps? Seriously? It's pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about...

Astra.Xtreme said,

Apps? Seriously? It's pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about...


Quite the contrary. So you've never used an embedded Flash app in a website? Silly fool.

Ricky65 said,

Quite the contrary. So you've never used an embedded Flash app in a website? Silly fool.

You do realize we are talking about the iPad, right? SIlly fool...

Astra.Xtreme said,

You do realize we are talking about the iPad, right? SIlly fool...


Are you telling me that only iPads and iPhones have "apps"? Gosh you are a silly Apple fan boy.

Why would anybody want flash any more? The web is moving more and more toward a plugin-less state where the browser will be more than capable of displaying any content hosted. Flash is a resource hog anyway.

CoMMo said,
Why would anybody want flash any more? The web is moving more and more toward a plugin-less state where the browser will be more than capable of displaying any content hosted. Flash is a resource hog anyway.

what do you say?. No matter how many zealots say the same repeatedly, it is not true, in fact, it is completely the opposite.

Magallanes said,

what do you say?. No matter how many zealots say the same repeatedly, it is not true, in fact, it is completely the opposite.


It's the opposite eh? Funny since I got my second gen iPod touch (and later move to an iPhone and an iPad) the amount of flash videos I've run in to has been steadily decreasing to a point where I more or less never see them on my iOS device...

Unfortunately websites are till so stupidly coded that they only serve a non flash video to iOS and flash to just about everything else like my PC or my Galaxy Tab 7 (which means Firefox on android which for some reason doesn't support flash can't show videos)

Leonick said,

It's the opposite eh? Funny since I got my second gen iPod touch (and later move to an iPhone and an iPad) the amount of flash videos I've run in to has been steadily decreasing to a point where I more or less never see them on my iOS device...

Unfortunately websites are till so stupidly coded that they only serve a non flash video to iOS and flash to just about everything else like my PC or my Galaxy Tab 7 (which means Firefox on android which for some reason doesn't support flash can't show videos)

Flash is beyond to be a simple video player or an ads container.

Sorry to say but Flash and Silverlight are not going away anytime soon especially for video streaming services. There's nothing available that can replace them. HTML5 video tags are great, just not for video services like netflix.

nub said,
Sorry to say but Flash and Silverlight are not going away anytime soon especially for video streaming services. There's nothing available that can replace them. HTML5 video tags are great, just not for video services like netflix.

let me explain for the ignorant masses: HTML5 video not only has no standard format defined (H264 works for some, WEBM for others and Theora for the rest, so you need to have 3 copies of your video), but also it has no content protection or adaptive streaming capabilities at all so those like Netflix will never opt into that technology unless those 2 somehow get into the standard.

CoMMo said,
Why would anybody want flash any more? The web is moving more and more toward a plugin-less state where the browser will be more than capable of displaying any content hosted. Flash is a resource hog anyway.

The only Flash problems I've ever has on the iPad has been one or two restaurant websites because they weren't smart enough to make a Flash-less version.

In the end, I never cared about the flash issue and plenty of others haven't either. It never has and never will be a big deal since very few important things on the net rely on Flash.

So let me get this right, it transcodes in real-time each time a video is requested...?
If so, pretty sure the number of sales will stay at 0.

n_K said,
So let me get this right, it transcodes in real-time each time a video is requested...?
If so, pretty sure the number of sales will stay at 0.

Why would it need to be transcoded? The Flash player is just some code that references back to some h264 video sitting on a big library of videos that exist in a data centre - the difference is that the videos will probably be saved in flv with the HTML5 playback merely ignoring the FLV container and broadcasting the important stuff.

SlimShady said,
Wow. That's a buttload o'money for watching some online flash videos.
adobe! heres $1000! take it! i need flash!