Floodgates opened: Windows 8.1 Pro x86 and x64 plus Server 2012 R2 leaked

The floodgates are truly open now. Yesterday we reported that an English version of Windows 8.1 Pro (x64) RTM had leaked, but with a corrupted install.wim file (that could be repaired). Today two 'untouched' original ISO's have already leaked online, this time both the x64 and x86 versions.

The leak originates from Russian leaker WZOR, and Windows Server 2012 R2, Essentials, Enterprise, Hyper-V Server and Foundation Storage will also make their way to torrent sites today, as well as the Russian versions and language packs.

The leak descriptions come with full build strings (6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623 for the x64 ISO) and emphasise that they are Microsoft images, not frankenbuilds or modified (as yesterday) in any way.

Microsoft, for whatever reason they see fit, has decided against posting Windows 8.1 to its developer channels and wanted to make all users wait until October 18th before they can get their hands on the update. But, when there is a will, there is a way, and the Windows 8.1 community has been able to go against Microsoft’s wishes by leaking just about everything that was sent to OEMs now.

For those of you wanting to wait until Microsoft releases the update officially, you will get your chance on October 18th at retail locations and on the 17th via the Windows Store.

Via: Neowin Forums & MDL

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Ulpian said,
Any performance benchmarks for 8.1 final ? 8.1 preview was clearly SLOWER than 8.0.

That's due to debugging code present in the preview.

I was able to do an upgrade with the ISO. I selected the first option to keep everything. After awhile I tried to do a clean install by selecting the 3rd option, don't keep anything. The install started but pretty soon it started restoring my previous windows. I did the clean install over my 8.1 upgrade which could be why it didn't work. But you can definitely do an upgrade with the ISO.

I found the following info:
If you use the ISO file, you can only make a clean install, or you can keep your personal files, that's all.
If you want to keep your settings, apps and personalizations, you (will) have to make the upgrade from Microsoft Store - as soon as it will be available.

And yeah, it's a shame, but I can't upgrade my Windows 8 x64 Pro installation to the same version of 8.1... only to make a clean install, losing all of my settings and currently used apps. (Makes no sense for me...)

pasztor.laszlo said,
I found the following info:
If you want to keep your settings, apps and personalizations, you (will) have to make the upgrade from Microsoft Store - as soon as it will be available.

Not true, I upgraded 3 systems and kept everything

Could you tell me please the "details" of those 3 systems? For example: how much free space were available before starting the upgrade process?
I'm using a 128GB SSD, and more than 50% of the space is in use. Can it cause that' I can't have the option to keep my files, settings and apps?

I'm trying to update from Windows 8 x64 Professional to Windows 8.1 x64 Professional, but setup does not propose me to upgrade and keep my application. Only Keep personal files only and Keep nothing are available.

But I want to make an Update, to keep Everything. How can I do this? What can cause that the 'Upgrade and keep my applications, personal files and settings' option is not available?

Spent most of last night and all of this morning, watching network calls from the installed system and running several rootkit and malware products (most available to the public, a couple that are not ) and the Win 8.1 x64 install is clean enough for me to use on a day to day system. Still, without MS provided hashes, 100% cannot be guaranteed.

strange how they shrunk the desktop block in the screenshot above. took me about 10 to 15 seconds to locate. Still think they should have tailored the installation to interrogate the PC whether it is a touchscreen based system or not.

I used to be an easy guy for change. But now I'm older I'm set in my ways. :\

I wonder if MS is going to reverse the decision not to make them available on MSDN or not. The Win8 RTM leaks were leaked just before they appeared on MSDN/TechNet. Hopefully this is an indication of a reversal on that mind-boggling decision to keep everyone out until GA.

texasghost said,
Why do you have to do anything at all? You can't seriously wait till October 17th?

Because there's no legitimate reason to wait, it's done and ready to use now, MS just like to make people wait for BS reasons

texasghost said,
I get a kick out of people that will risk corrupting their PC with leaked software that nobody even knows works 100%.

I'm sure the smart ones just image their drive before they install it)

Actually, one of the reasons makes an absurd amount of sense - the schema for volume licensees changed and hasn't even BEGUN to roll out yet. Volume licensees are the greatest amount - by numbers and by amount of revenue/earnings - of Microsoft's customer base; that's something even WZOR gets - the only VL product to leak to date is Enterprise, and THAT is only so isolated corporate desktops can test it; it can't be licensed due to lack of that back-end licensing structure for the VL folks.

Just installed this, works great, and to all the people above that bash windows 8, SPECIALLY if your a seVen user, you need help, windows 8 if far better than 7, just install classic shell or start8 and boom, you have a better faster more stable windows experience!

Raa said,
Yep that's the way, insult everyday users...

Nah Win8 haters are the same idiots who stayed on XP for whatever bizarre reason they cooked up, they've just moved on to hating Win8 for the same nonsensical reasons

z0phi3l said,

Nah Win8 haters are the same idiots who stayed on XP for whatever bizarre reason they cooked up, they've just moved on to hating Win8 for the same nonsensical reasons


When you can't think of a reason, just make up something random and hope it sticks.
Ahh gotcha.

Rudy said,
Why do they still bother putting out an x86 version

While Windows 8 performs better on my netbook than the OS it came with (XP) and 7, I do have to wonder the same--it's now such a small market.

Rudy said,
Why do they still bother putting out an x86 version

Because every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses an atom cpu which is 32bit architecture. Which means it can only use the x86 version. So until the next gen of tablets move to a different chipset then that it still going to happen.

This is the one that is in just about every current win8 tablet: http://ark.intel.com/products/...or-Z2760-1MB-Cache-1_80-GHz

#Michael said,
Because every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses an atom cpu which is 32bit architecture.

If you're trying to say that all Atoms are 32-bit only, I have a MiniITX-based machine from 2009 or so that came with Windows Home Server; it's got an Atom CPU that's now happily running Windows 7 x64. It's much older (and slower, in fact) than the CPU you've linked to above.

_dandy_ said,

If you're trying to say that all Atoms are 32-bit only, I have a MiniITX-based machine from 2009 or so that came with Windows Home Server; it's got an Atom CPU that's now happily running Windows 7 x64. It's much older (and slower, in fact) than the CPU you've linked to above.

Where did I say that all atoms are 32bit? What I said very clearly is that the win8 tablets for sale today use 32bit atom chips. And that the atom chip found in all most all of them is the z2760

#Michael said,
Where did I say that all atoms are 32bit? What I said very clearly is that the win8 tablets for sale today use 32bit atom chips. And that the atom chip found in all most all of them is the z2760

Compare and contrast.

What you wrote:

>> every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses an atom cpu which is 32bit architecture

What you're apparently now trying to rephrase it as:

>> every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses a 32-bit atom cpu

_dandy_ said,

Compare and contrast.

What you wrote:

>> every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses an atom cpu which is 32bit architecture

What you're apparently now trying to rephrase it as:

>> every tablet except the surface pro or rt uses a 32-bit atom cpu

I swear I forget how much of an ******* people are around here. Do you even look at the specs on win8 tablets? Win8 tablets use an atom dual core chip that is 32bit. No where did I ever say that all atom chips are 32bit.

Considering RT tables don't even use x86/x64 architecture, the basis of the initial comment is wrong to begin with.

#Michael said,
I swear I forget how much of an ******* people are around here. Do you even look at the specs on win8 tablets? Win8 tablets use an atom dual core chip that is 32bit. No where did I ever say that all atom chips are 32bit.

I wasn't discussing tablets. I was responding to what looked to me like an assertion that all Atoms were 32-bit only. I also gave you the benefit of doubt by starting with "if you're trying to say [...]".

There's no need to get all worked up.

For the desktop side, to prevent all those former XP x86 desktops and portables from clogging landfills - remember, XP64 released absurdly late; Microsoft hasn't shipped an x32 server OS since Server 2003R2.

This is correct. The MSDN/Tn builds are slightly different to the Retail builds in that the MSDN builds do not request a product key during install but Retail does. This is the same as it was with Windows 8.

Raa said,

Source?


I have been using Windows 8 RTM since it's leak by WZT last year. Nothing happened to my account. Microsoft cannot take the risk of banning accounts. That would be pouring gas over negative publicity fire.

sanke1 said,

I have been using Windows 8 RTM since it's leak by WZT last year. Nothing happened to my account. Microsoft cannot take the risk of banning accounts. That would be pouring gas over negative publicity fire.

Okay, so that's a count of one then.

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.RTM.X64.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
RELEASE DATE: 08/21/2013
BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623
FILE: Windows_8.1_EN-US_x64.ISO
SIZE: 3,899,295,744 byte
SHA-1: BC2F7FF5C91C9F0F8676E39E703085C65072139B
MD5: F104B78019E86E74B149AE5E510F7BE9

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.RTM.X86.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
RELEASE DATE: 08/21/2013
BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623
FILE: Windows_8.1_EN-US_x86.ISO
SIZE: 2,915,131,392 byte
SHA-1: 802CFCD3A411D99C097EA7E747F0B6697F9BDAC4
MD5: 7DD36FEA0D004ACFEDBDB3A5521EF5FF

ManMountain said,
It would take a trusted source or Microsoft themselves confirming the hash codes before sensible folk would install.

yep, i'm sure neowin mods will get an ms employee to verify the hashes.

Can Windows 8 be upgraded to 8.1 without losing everything, or is it like the preview that requires a full reinstall ?

HawkMan said,
Can Windows 8 be upgraded to 8.1 without losing everything, or is it like the preview that requires a full reinstall ?

It will allow an in-place upgrade.

Steven said,

WIM is not digitally signed; nor is the ISO.


Nor is there a hash to compare the ISO with. I'll wait.

Mr. Dee said,
That's my mothers birthday, how sweet!

What's her maiden name? It's the only other piece of info needed to get access to your bank accounts...

does the windows activate an update that's already free and ... since we use our Windows 8 keys already? I'd assume the key goes through the approval process then the install continues

If you do a clean install, use the install key for 8.1 (look around, you'll find it). Then after setup insert your Windows 8 key and activate. The installer doesn't accept 8 keys but post-install the OS does. Only way this doesn't work is if you use a Volume License key, those are changed for 8.1, but retails work.

Chris123NT said,
If you do a clean install, use the install key for 8.1 (look around, you'll find it). Then after setup insert your Windows 8 key and activate. The installer doesn't accept 8 keys but post-install the OS does. Only way this doesn't work is if you use a Volume License key, those are changed for 8.1, but retails work.
Thanks Chris. Will give it a try this weekend.

Terrible decision by MS to hold off releasing these products for MSDN / TechNet / Volume Licencing customers. These leaks undermine the benefits of being a valued customer.

snuffy said,
Terrible decision by MS to hold off releasing these products for MSDN / TechNet / Volume Licencing customers. These leaks undermine the benefits of being a valued customer.

I'm sure they thought about that and weighed the pros with the cons.

I don't care whether they thought about it or not its still a very poor decision. the forums back this statement up. Microsoft listen more to their xbox customers then they do to the ones that got them where they are today.

King Mustard said,

I'm sure they thought about that and weighed the pros with the cons.

If these leaked RTM builds are stable and perfectly usable for developers, they made a misjudgement. Let's see who's right.

King Mustard said,

I'm sure they thought about that and weighed the pros with the cons.

There are NO pros to their decision. MSDN/Technet are there FOR testing, not for general public. If they want to let customers wait for drivers fine, hold off the release for them. But as devs we need to test before the rollout for basic compatibility.

Not necessarily - there are some versions that haven't leaked yet; for example, no volume-licensed leak (other than Enterprise) has occurred - which is likely the REAL reason Microsoft is holding off, as a new licensing schema is in place for 8.1 which directly affects volume customers (the vast majority of the Microsoft software licensees - retail customers are NOT affected). And to the poster below, RETAIL Windows 8 licenses and license keys will work (like to like) - it's the volume licensees that are stuck.

Neobond said,
Everything leaked, that's pretty major.

Sorry dude, but if your windows are leaking, you need to call a glazing specialist

Neobond said,
Everything leaked, that's pretty major.
Im trying to find a good download right now to test in a virtual machine.

Neobond said,
Everything leaked, that's pretty major.

Hmm, still waiting on Windows 8.1 RT, WZOR made the bold promise that he'll leak that too!

Raa said,

It's right back where it belongs, finally!

The little graphic in the corner was that important? You could also click in that corner. I am upset that this isn't something you can turn off, those extra pixels on my tiny 1366x768 tablet resolution were much more useful used for taskbar items instead of putting a stupid Windows logo in the corner permanently. I KNOW I'm using Windows, don't need the icon there at all times.

mrp04 said,

The little graphic in the corner was that important? You could also click in that corner. I am upset that this isn't something you can turn off, those extra pixels on my tiny 1366x768 tablet resolution were much more useful used for taskbar items instead of putting a stupid Windows logo in the corner permanently. I KNOW I'm using Windows, don't need the icon there at all times.

Actually yes it is - it is a clear target that you can click on with your mouse without having to awkwardly hover over the corner and also on my touch screen ultrabook it makes it much easier to just tap on there as well without having to either move my hand back to the keyboard to press the Win key or swipe the charms bar. Also for newcomers it will be much easier to adapt to Windows 8. It was a mistake for them to remove it from the get go. Had they never removed it in the first place then no one would have complained about it being removed/added back...

Obry said,

Actually yes it is - it is a clear target that you can click on with your mouse without having to awkwardly hover over the corner and also on my touch screen ultrabook it makes it much easier to just tap on there as well without having to either move my hand back to the keyboard to press the Win key or swipe the charms bar. Also for newcomers it will be much easier to adapt to Windows 8. It was a mistake for them to remove it from the get go. Had they never removed it in the first place then no one would have complained about it being removed/added back...

You don't have to hover. You still haven't figured that out? Just move it to the bottom left and click. No accuracy required.

Touch screen ultrabook? There's a button on the keyboard. Convertible? Windows button at the bottom of the screen. Old tablet PC? On keyboard or swipe from the right and press the start in the charms bar.

Now my X230T loses some valuable limited space on the taskbar to show a stupid Windows logo permanently. Great.

mrp04 said,

The little graphic in the corner was that important? You could also click in that corner. I am upset that this isn't something you can turn off, those extra pixels on my tiny 1366x768 tablet resolution were much more useful used for taskbar items instead of putting a stupid Windows logo in the corner permanently. I KNOW I'm using Windows, don't need the icon there at all times.


Yes it was/is.
And I was under the impression it could be disabled...

Ehh. Can't please everyone.

Raa said,

Yes it was/is.
And I was under the impression it could be disabled...

Ehh. Can't please everyone.

That's just hilarious. Why do you need a little image reminding you which OS you're running?

That "image that reminds me which OS i'm running" is the main way I, and millions of others, launch programs.

Raa said,
That "image that reminds me which OS i'm running" is the main way I, and millions of others, launch programs.

Did you ever use Windows 8? You can still click in that corner in Windows 8.0. It does the exact same thing as clicking this new windows logo but doesn't waste room.

mrp04 said,

Did you ever use Windows 8? You can still click in that corner in Windows 8.0. It does the exact same thing as clicking this new windows logo but doesn't waste room.


Yep.
That's true, but for many using the hot corners was not satisfactory for whatever reason. Having a button brings back familiarity for people. It's really not that much space used, and we've been used to it for nearly 20 years!

But like I said - can't please everyone.

Yeah it's not much space since Windows 8 displays just the icon of each program you're running... I always have 5 pinned apps to my taskbar (with apps are open at the time) and all notifications displayed in the taskbar, yet I never run out of space (also with a 1366x768 screen). But at the same time, I don't particularly care whether the start button is there or not.

I am wondering when it "just appears" on MSDN/TechNet in September, stating Microsoft has listened to its tech-users/developers.....

i wish, i would get the ISO's my im so paranoid that something is up with the ones i would get Really would love to have a play and see how it works with some of our software and configurations.

kiddingguy said,
I am wondering when it "just appears" on MSDN/TechNet in September, stating Microsoft has listened to its tech-users/developers.....

I sure hope so. It would confirm that the leaked build is authentic. I'm going to install it anyway...

These are images leaked from OEM, not modified Chinese ones converted to English, that was my meaning if it didn't come over clear enough

It's in Chinese and English too.
Just tried it... It's Windows 8 with a couple of bugs fixed. "Start" button was added back, but it takes you to the same ugly tiled interface. Half baked interface, inconsistent UI.
Back to Windows 7, thanks for the effort anyway.

JasonMiles said,
It's in Chinese and English too.
Just tried it... It's Windows 8 with a couple of bugs fixed. "Start" button was added back, but it takes you to the same ugly tiled interface. Half baked interface, inconsistent UI.
Back to Windows 7, thanks for the effort anyway.

Thanks for the enlightening comment. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

JasonMiles said,
"Start" button was added back, but it takes you to the same ugly tiled interface.
That "start" button in Windows 7 takes you to a list-based interface, you must think that it's so beautiful that it's like porn.