From the Forums: Why I'm abandoning Windows Phone


Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system appears to be a divisive topic among Neowin users.

While Neowin's own Max Slater-Robins recently switched to Windows Phone, some other users of the platform in our forums have reverted back to their previous smartphone operating systems of choice.

In a forum post, Neowin user thechronic said he's going to switch back to Android because his Lumia 800, which runs Windows Phone 7.8, is unable to run the latest and best Windows Phone apps. While thechronic said he enjoyed the platform, he added that the overall ecosystem simply isn't as strong as Android's.

"My Lumia 800 device is missing out on certain releases that are only available for Windows Phone 8, for example, [are] the new Facebook beta and Temple Run," he said. "The device should be capable of running such apps, so why am I being left out? I've only had it since the beginning of last year! Windows Phone 8 has more apps, but it doesn't seem that there are many major releases to choose from there either."

Other users have since chimed in saying they've also switched back to Android or iOS. A stronger app ecosystem also lured typu back to Android, though the Neowin user noted he may return to Windows Phone in a year or so when its ecosystem advances. Some users said they'll continue to support the Microsoft smartphone operating system, however.

Matthew_Thepc, for instance, said he prefers the look of Windows Phone over Android. One user also said he plans to make the switch from Android to Windows Phone soon. "I am planning on selling my Galaxy S 3 here in a week or so and picking up the Lumia 928," littleneutrino wrote.

The debate appears to have plenty of support on both sides, as several users aren't impressed with Windows Phone or its ecosystem thus far, while others have said they prefer the interface and how the platform works when compared to Android devices or the iPhone.

Have your own thoughts on the matter? Head on over to the forum topic and join the debate.

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I think I am one of the few people who doesn't really care much about apps. I use the core functions and very rarely do I ever need to stray outside into appland. I guess I just don't use it as a toy like a lot of folks do. For the day-to-day operations I do, I really love the Windows Phone.

Get used to this!! Microsoft always launches something and forget about the old ones, backwards compatibility and etc. The first problem of this kind I had with Microsoft was when I bought the first Xbox (not 360) and one year later launched the Xbox 360 and the Xbox completely forgotten. My second problem was with the purchase of the Lumia 800 and times later said that Windows Phone 8.0 would not be compatible with WP8. I've had two problems of this type, so I'm used to.

Sounds fair, for most people, WP7.x was "discontinued" in a snap, even for newest devices and there is not warranty that MS will not do the same with WP8 (or WP8.1 or WP blue).

when i got my phone, Windows Phone 8 was about 9 months away and that OS still has application problems.

And the FB application was just an immediate example to show that im missing out on Applications that i'd love to have such as TVCatchUp.

non of the wp8 phones support normal sim cards....
gonna stay with Omnia W until it dies. Got a new battery, should last me another couple of years.

after that, i'll be going back to unlocked Japanese phones...

Microsoft should lower its exorbitant license fees to a token $1 to encourage more manufacturers...

I'm thinking of doing the same. I have a WP 7.8 and I got it on a leap of faith for Microsoft and I simply don't feel like doing another leap for WP 8. I don't think MSFT has who (not the what) it takes to push the platform forward.

Since I don't feel like changing phones every two years, I might as well get an Android because in the end if I can't get a phone update because of the manufacturer or the carrier, I can always root the device and push its lifespan to the limit; and to me this is a fundamental advantage.

"My device is old and can't run the latest apps. I now have a choice to get a new phone. My choice is to switch to Android instead of getting the newer Windows Phone."

What? If your whole anger is that you can't run the newer apps, why not get the newer phone?

This is the most garbage article I've ever saw on here. Why the heck is this even on the front page? It's from the forums for a topic that's not even valid anymore... it's basically someone's misinformed opinion.
They announced the new Facebook is coming to 7.8 as well. Also, most of the top apps on iPhone/Android are already in the Store. Also, my 7.8 device has still been getting updates for my apps, not sure what the problem is? If you want the latest and greatest features you'll obviously have to get a capable device (i.e. a WP8) device.. otherwise you'll just get your regular app updates.

Man, some people have no loyalty or staying power.

Have fun on Android, although why you just didn't pick up a WP8 device is beyond me.

Walrush said,
Man, some people have no loyalty or staying power.

Have fun on Android, although why you just didn't pick up a WP8 device is beyond me.


Right? I'm truly befuddled... LOL

Well, I have used my Lumia 920 for around 4.5 months. I switched from an iphone 4S. I loved the hardware, the camera, integration with office and skydrive. I love the people hub. But in the end, there just weren't enough apps. I'm not playing games on my mobile anymore as I carry my vita with me all the time, I use it primarly to listen to music.

Things I missed in windows phone:
- I love my last fm and I feel like I need a real time scrobbler no matter what (this is probably non important for most people).
- A decent music player, I somehow couldn't get used to windows phone music player (xbox music is pretty cool though).
- Google maps, I bought third party apps but they were just crap. Nokia maps is awesome for offline mapping, but it doesn't show up public transport in my area
- No real background running implementation for most apps (whatsapp just received it few weeks ago)

Probably not enough reasons to switch phones, but now I moved to android, got a HTC One, as I didn't want to go back to iOS. Loving it for now, but who knows, when the app store gets better I might move back to windows.

What a one sided title for a discussion that had people leaving other OS' and moving to WP as well.

Not to mention the issue was with an old version of WP, and basically moot. He wants to move to another OS because he doesn't want to upgrade his device to WP8. What?? An upgrade's an upgrade. LOL

And people move from one OS to another all the time. How is one forum user's choice front page news?

It's the title of the discussion -- click the link at the bottom.

It's on the front page because we routinely do From the Forums posts, typically during weekends, of topics that generate debate or conversation.

I think you're assuming too much as to why this was posted. I have an HTC Windows Phone 8X myself and love it, so it's not because I hate Windows Phone. From the Forums posts rarely draw many hits, so it's not because we're trying to link bait people. The title of the article is the same as the title of the forum topic, so it's not because we're trying to mislead people.

It's just a slow news day and it was an interesting topic. Nothing more, nothing less

Anthony Tosie said,
It's the title of the discussion -- click the link at the bottom.

It's on the front page because we routinely do From the Forums posts, typically during weekends, of topics that generate debate or conversation.

I think you're assuming too much as to why this was posted. I have an HTC Windows Phone 8X myself and love it, so it's not because I hate Windows Phone. From the Forums posts rarely draw many hits, so it's not because we're trying to link bait people. The title of the article is the same as the title of the forum topic, so it's not because we're trying to mislead people.

It's just a slow news day and it was an interesting topic. Nothing more, nothing less


Which I understand and is fine.

But at the same time, posting an argument with this many holes, you should expect people to point them out.

I don't care what phone the OP has. If he prefers Android, that's fine. If he's going to elaborate however, these arguments have to be the most bizarre I've heard (and I've heard some truly good criticisms of WP).

Genuine criticisms of WP are good, they drive the platform forward. Stupid ones just waste everyone's time...

I've used nothing but Android so far, but if WP has the right apps next year, I can see giving it a try...but now, there's no way.

I don't even care about the apps. I use this phone for work. Does it do email? Yes. Does it sync with our group's OneNote workbooks? Yes. Does it edit Office apps? Yes. Does it sync with SkyDrive and let me check on our SharePoint site (I'm the admin)? Yes.

VPN app is coming. I can wait. I can still use my phone as a hotspot and then connect my work laptop up to it. Citrix is coming too. I can't believe people like the Op just use it for a half a day and leave without really testing it.

briangw said,
I don't even care about the apps. I use this phone for work. Does it do email? Yes. Does it sync with our group's OneNote workbooks? Yes. Does it edit Office apps? Yes. Does it sync with SkyDrive and let me check on our SharePoint site (I'm the admin)? Yes.

VPN app is coming. I can wait. I can still use my phone as a hotspot and then connect my work laptop up to it. Citrix is coming too. I can't believe people like the Op just use it for a half a day and leave without really testing it.

I use My phone For business as well and I have a Lumia 920 therefore WP8 but I have no problems to admit that the "PDA" functionalities of the OS are still behind the ones that my HD2 with WM 6.5 offered. Different people have different needs: I do not need or care for Instagram or Facebook, for others these, or others apps and built-in functionalities could be a must have. It is all subjective.

Did they announce Citrix Receiver for WP7 and/or WP8? I have heard nothing yet, and could really use it. Hopefully, it'll work better than the "Windows 8 app-style" one they provided for Windows 8/RT.

xpxp2002 said,
Did they announce Citrix Receiver for WP7 and/or WP8? I have heard nothing yet, and could really use it. Hopefully, it'll work better than the "Windows 8 app-style" one they provided for Windows 8/RT.

For RT they did, not Windows Phone. I was reading an employee's blog entry and they were speculating having something this summer.

xankazo said,
Then, since you're changing phones anyways, why not get a WP8 phone which will have the apps you desire?

Because that would make sense.

Honestly, if he prefers Android that's fine. Who cares. People leave one OS for another all the time. But good grief, that's a stupid argument... I'd rather hear "I just like Android better.". But "Because I don't want to get a new phone"?

"My Lumia 800 device is missing out on certain releases that are only available for Windows Phone 8, for example, [are] the new Facebook beta and Temple Run," he said. "The device should be capable of running such apps, so why am I being left out? I've only had it since the beginning of last year!

not this crap again.

Indeed. He's complaining that his WP7 device can't run WP8 apps. So what does he do? Buy a WP8 device? No. He jumps ship because HE chose an old technology phone.

TCLN Ryster said,
Indeed. He's complaining that his WP7 device can't run WP8 apps. So what does he do? Buy a WP8 device? No. He jumps ship because HE chose an old technology phone.

What? He choose a device that he wanted at the time, he didn't know Microsoft was planning the move to WinNT kernel based mobile OSs all along. Microsoft is the one that stabbed him in the back.

TCLN Ryster said,
Indeed. He's complaining that his WP7 device can't run WP8 apps. So what does he do? Buy a WP8 device? No. He jumps ship because HE chose an old technology phone.

Exactly. So he's going to upgrade to an Android device because he doesn't want to upgrade to a new WP8 device.

And without being able to make new API's available, apps won't ever move forward. So some apps that need those API's will need the new version. Why is this so hard to understand for some people?

thealexweb said,

What? He choose a device that he wanted at the time, he didn't know Microsoft was planning the move to WinNT kernel based mobile OSs all along. Microsoft is the one that stabbed him in the back.


Actually it was long rumored that this transition would happen. And it was one of those rumors you knew would turn out to be true...

MFH said,

Actually it was long rumored that this transition would happen. And it was one of those rumors you knew would turn out to be true...

So we should make purchases whilst assuming every rumour on the internet about the product is true.. wow

thealexweb said,

So we should make purchases whilst assuming every rumour on the internet about the product is true.. wow

its called common sense. what are the chances that a new version of an OS that has a completely different kernel will support older devices? you'd have to be a monkey to think theres a high chance your device is going to be supported.

Lumia 800 was released in late 2011, WP8 around the same time in 2012. The OP probably bouhgt his phone in early 2012. It was a dick move on MS's part to release phones even though they knew that they could not be upgraded. They just created a situation where they have to support two systems, created essentially a new "IE6" with the WP7.x piece of **** browser (WP8 isn't much better to be honest) and developers have to support that as well as make another version of their apps if they want it to work on WP7.

I would be running for Android or iOS too in that situation.

vcfan said,
you'd have to be a monkey to think theres a high chance your device is going to be supported.

Or just an everyday consumer.

thealexweb said,

So we should make purchases whilst assuming every rumour on the internet about the product is true.. wow


No. But as I already said that rumor was known to be true… If I told you the next version of Windows would switch from NT to GNU/Hurd you would also know it's not going to be true...

vcfan said,

its called common sense. what are the chances that a new version of an OS that has a completely different kernel will support older devices? you'd have to be a monkey to think theres a high chance your device is going to be supported.

When the Lumia 800 came out there was essentially no talk of WP8 or this happening. Why has everyone forgotten that?

I find this article rather silly, as every platform will have people dissatisfied with it.

I guess one way to look at this is that WP is *so* popular with its users, it makes news when people leave. I mean, I can't remember similar articles about people leaving Blackberry, Android, or iOS platforms.

NateB1 said,
I find this article rather silly, as every platform will have people dissatisfied with it.

I guess one way to look at this is that WP is *so* popular with its users, it makes news when people leave. I mean, I can't remember similar articles about people leaving Blackberry, Android, or iOS platforms.


Good point. But yeah, the article is really silly.

This is my story I have a HTC HD7 which is on T-Mobile and my two year contract is over, I am waiting to see what T-Mobile is going to bring to their High end phones. It's really hard for me, I want to keep windows phone but T-Mobile is now helping, I'm thinking of moving to at&t but they are too expensive and on my budget its hard to choose who to stay or who to go with, at&a and a high end phone or T-Mobile with a low end phone or staying with T-Mobile and moving to a Android phone, and I don't like the mess android phone has with icons I out grew the icons.

Since T-Mobile is selling phone with full price now, so there is no reason not to buy unlocked phone and use it. I moved from the same phone HTC HD7 to Nokia 920, and I am much happier. Plan to get the new EOS, and give this Nokia 920 to my wife to replace her old HTC HD7 as well. There will be one coming to T-Mobile, and hope they announce it on 5/14.

xchaser said,
I have a HTC HD7 which is on T-Mobile and my two year contract is over.

I'm in a similar position. Got an HD7 on special nearly two years ago and now it's time to make a decision. The hardware itself was really quite good, but the WP7 API was just far too limiting. I often couldnt find a solution to what I was looking for and couldn't develop the app myself if I wanted to. Im left looking to Android.

The only major apps missing from WP is Instagram and Snapchat... thousands would switch if they had those apps. Microsoft should pay the devs to make these. It's an investment.

TPreston said,
They could start with a sodding vpn client

VPN Support is much needed. Here's hoping an upcoming update adds support. My understanding was that it was at least being considered.

No, wells Fargo and squareup are 2 others. I have a windows phone and has become my os of choice but to me, not having these apps makes it very hard to take wp as a business friendly device. Also, what Microsoft needs to do is what face book did. Buy the apps that are popular. Imagine if MS bought instagram? What its about now is what it was like for consoles. MS had Halo as an exclusive title, that seemed to work out pretty good for the Xbox.

Because they want everyone to use DirectAccess. It's a great idea, but most small-to-medium size companies have not deployed IPv6 (which DirectAccess requires), nor have their servers been migrated to Server 2012 yet, or their user base transitioned to Windows 8.

It's a From the Forums feature. We've done them tons of times before:
http://www.neowin.net/news/tags/from_the_forums

These topics are used to bring attention to some of the more interesting (or controversial) debates or topics in our forums. You're free to not read them if you like. Max just did an article about how he moved to Windows Phone, and I thought it was a nice juxtaposition.

Anthony Tosie said,
It's a From the Forums feature. We've done them tons of times before:
http://www.neowin.net/news/tags/from_the_forums

These topics are used to bring attention to some of the more interesting (or controversial) debates or topics in our forums. You're free to not read them if you like. Max just did an article about how he moved to Windows Phone, and I thought it was a nice juxtaposition.

Well how about you pick some posts "from the forums" of people who've switched to Windows Phone and love it? Or those that find iOs and Android very "samey" with little innovation in the UI.

...because, as I literally just said in the post you're quoting, Max did an article of the opposite recently and this topic was recently created in the forums, which served as a nice juxtaposition with a Neowin user's opinions.

This article includes references to users who support Windows Phone because of the interface.

Anthony Tosie said,
...because, as I literally just said in the post you're quoting, Max did an article of the opposite recently and this topic was recently created in the forums, which served as a nice juxtaposition with a Neowin user's opinions.

This article includes references to users who support Windows Phone because of the interface.


Which would be fine if the OP's arguments made any sense. His entire argument is that he wants to upgrade to Android because he doesn't want to upgrade to WP8... It's absurd.

M_Lyons10 said,

Which would be fine if the OP's arguments made any sense. His entire argument is that he wants to upgrade to Android because he doesn't want to upgrade to WP8... It's absurd.

That's not his "entire argument." His entire argument is that his phone wasn't able to get upgraded and Windows Phone doesn't have an extensive app catalog to begin with, so he went back to Android.

The part of his comment you're ignoring: "Windows Phone 8 has more apps but it doesn't seem that there are many major releases to choose from there either."

Anthony Tosie said,

That's not his "entire argument." His entire argument is that his phone wasn't able to get upgraded and Windows Phone doesn't have an extensive app catalog to begin with, so he went back to Android.

The part of his comment you're ignoring: "Windows Phone 8 has more apps but it doesn't seem that there are many major releases to choose from there either."


An app catalog that he doesn't have access to because he's not using WP8?

How about his complaint that the Facebook App Beta hasn't yet been opened up to WP7 users?

Or that, being upset that he can't upgrade his WP7 device to WP8, he wants to move to Android, a platform well known for the lack of updates being made available to the phones?

However you slice it (And I read the forum topic before you ran with it {deemung it, appropriately, as nonsense}), it's an absurd read that just doesn't make any logical sense.

If hd prefers Android, that's fine, everyone has their preference, but say that. Don't blame it on nonsensical arguments...

I used a Windows Phone for about a half of day.. and went back to my Android.. I just like the way both Android and iOS flow when compared to Windows Phone.. Windows Phone feels like it is just missing something and harder to do the same task on an Android..

I will admit.. the OS is very snappy.. but kinda pointless due to the lack of "modern" phone features.. Yes, I am very aware of "all the features" the Windows Phone OS has.. BUT TO ME, they just don't flow as well as an Android.. That is my option.

especially when he says ios and android flow more easily. There is not a more fluid os out there compared to wp8.
Modern Phone features??? what really are you trying to say?
A review was posted about all the features the s4 has and it is found to be a very different experience as to what you see in the Samsung commercials and most of the features were found to not work at all or have very bad implementation..

I would suggest you use a phone for more than half a day to see how it performs to other platforms, then make a decision.

coderchi said,
obvious troll... just obvious... if you judge a platform based on half a day of use you are just simply sad.

Obvious you dont know the definition of an internet troll. And neither do the 6 people who liked your post.

Fus10n said,
I used a Windows Phone for about a half of day.. and went back to my Android.. I just like the way both Android and iOS flow when compared to Windows Phone.. Windows Phone feels like it is just missing something and harder to do the same task on an Android..

I will admit.. the OS is very snappy.. but kinda pointless due to the lack of "modern" phone features.. Yes, I am very aware of "all the features" the Windows Phone OS has.. BUT TO ME, they just don't flow as well as an Android.. That is my option.


Glad you gave it a fair "opportunity". LMAO.

M_Lyons10 said,

Glad you gave it a fair "opportunity". LMAO.

I messed around with one for a day and didnt like it. Takes me a lot less time to test drive a car and find out I dont like how it drives/feels. And a car is a much bigger and important investment.

techbeck said,

I messed around with one for a day and didnt like it. Takes me a lot less time to test drive a car and find out I dont like how it drives/feels. And a car is a much bigger and important investment.


Yeah, that's not a really fair comparison though. A car still operates like other cars. You turn the wheel right and it goes right. Drastic UX differences like exist between Android and WP require more than half a day to see if you like it or not. That first day you're still getting used to how you do certain things...

techbeck said,

I messed around with one for a day and didnt like it. Takes me a lot less time to test drive a car and find out I dont like how it drives/feels. And a car is a much bigger and important investment.

The testdrive is just a first impression. That doesn't tell you if the car is reliable for example. Ask anyone who ever bought a citroen. Using Windows Phone for 1 day is just a first impression. It's very possible you don't like it, but it's not a fair judgement.

Guess it depends on how technologically savvy you are and how much you know about cars. Doesnt take me long to decide things and I never regretted my decisions.

LegendaryRamzi said,
The testdrive is just a first impression. That doesn't tell you if the car is reliable for example.

Windows 8 is a total failure, on the PC, on the tablet, on the phone. If you can't work out how to use it after trying for half a day, then it is obviously not in the slightest bit user friendly.

dvb2000 said,

Windows 8 is a total failure, on the PC, on the tablet, on the phone. If you can't work out how to use it after trying for half a day, then it is obviously not in the slightest bit user friendly.

This is a typical fundamentalist troll reaction. He never said he couldn't figure out how to use it, he just didn't like the way it worked. Two completely different things. If you want to troll around with other 12 year olds you'll have more fun at the verge.

coderchi said,
obvious troll... just obvious... if you judge a platform based on half a day of use you are just simply sad.

Or that I know what I do and do not like in a mobile OS.. Not a troll.. I have had 25+ in the past four years.. I know a good for for me when I use one. Thanks for the comment though

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah, that's not a really fair comparison though. A car still operates like other cars. You turn the wheel right and it goes right. Drastic UX differences like exist between Android and WP require more than half a day to see if you like it or not. That first day you're still getting used to how you do certain things...
Good point, although initial impressions are important too... for example I'm using a new peice of software at work and my initial impression is that it isn't intuitive. Sure, after using it for a week I may compensate for its flaws, but the initial impression can also indicate how well designed/intuitive it is.

Note that I'm just throwing this in there for thought, I don't use smartphones, still using my 8 year old flipphone.

LegendaryRamzi said,

The testdrive is just a first impression. That doesn't tell you if the car is reliable for example. Ask anyone who ever bought a citroen. Using Windows Phone for 1 day is just a first impression. It's very possible you don't like it, but it's not a fair judgement.

Hey, don't slate Citroen, my Saxo is absolutely ....... erm ...... WONDERFUL!

On topic though, I'm using WP8 (HTC Windows Phone 8S) and I intend to be using it for the forseeable future. But I always have my iPhone 4 in the drawer just in case

I see two fail by the forum OP:
First of all he's got a Lumia 800 which is handicapped by its nature of WP7.8. Why did he not get a WP8 device in the first place? FAIL
Second of all, why did he even get a WP device if apps is what's he's after? FAIL

cetla said,
I see two fail by the forum OP:
First of all he's got a Lumia 800 which is handicapped by its nature of WP7.8. Why did he not get a WP8 device in the first place? FAIL
Second of all, why did he even get a WP device if apps is what's he's after? FAIL

I agree, if apps is your driving force, you should pick up iPhone - hands down, the most apps.

Regarding WP7, yes it sucks, but people change phones every two years or so.... and OP could switch to WP8 device and not Android - He's getting a new phone anyway, no ?

I loved my Omnia 7, and I love my new Ativ S - I wish there were more apps, and few more system tweaks, but they'll get there, and it's fun to experience the evolution of that new OS.

Dot Matrix said,
A Facebook update is coming at a later date for Win7.8

Exactly. And he is going to upgrade to an Android device because he doesn't want to have to upgrade to a WP8 device? That makes no sense. I respect people's choice, but that's a bizarre argument and one that certainly shouldn't be on the front page...

cetla said,
I see two fail by the forum OP:
First of all he's got a Lumia 800 which is handicapped by its nature of WP7.8. Why did he not get a WP8 device in the first place? FAIL
Second of all, why did he even get a WP device if apps is what's he's after? FAIL

WP8 came out in fall of last year. He had the 800 since the beginning of 2012 when it came out. They didn't want anyone that WP7 phones will not get upgraded to WP8 but you could guess if you kept up with the news and knew about the switch to the NT kernel.

They could have made WP8 run on the old hardware if they really wanted to spend the time and effort but they didn't. I don't think it was a very smart decision because now people are afraid that WP8 will be just dropped when WP9 comes out.

mrp04 said,

WP8 came out in fall of last year. He had the 800 since the beginning of 2012 when it came out. They didn't want anyone that WP7 phones will not get upgraded to WP8 but you could guess if you kept up with the news and knew about the switch to the NT kernel.

They could have made WP8 run on the old hardware if they really wanted to spend the time and effort but they didn't. I don't think it was a very smart decision because now people are afraid that WP8 will be just dropped when WP9 comes out.


WP8 devices has requirements to their specs (by this I don't mean WP8 cannot run without the hardware, but that Microsoft says you must have it), and as long as Microsoft keeps those requirements they cannot necessarily just update old hardware with WP8.

Lamp Post said,

WP8 devices has requirements to their specs (by this I don't mean WP8 cannot run without the hardware, but that Microsoft says you must have it), and as long as Microsoft keeps those requirements they cannot necessarily just update old hardware with WP8.

Microsoft set the requirements. They could have set them lower if they wanted to.

There is absolutely no technical reason WP8 doesn't run on the old WP7 phones. They're 100% strong enough to run it. Take a look at the WP8 port to the HTC HD2 which runs the same processor as the first generation WP7 phones, a weaker processor than the ones used in the second and third generation WP7 phones. Granted it wasn't usable enough to be released (the person who ported it never released it) but it was done without having access to source code and drivers.

mrp04 said,

WP8 came out in fall of last year. He had the 800 since the beginning of 2012 when it came out. They didn't want anyone that WP7 phones will not get upgraded to WP8 but you could guess if you kept up with the news and knew about the switch to the NT kernel.

They could have made WP8 run on the old hardware if they really wanted to spend the time and effort but they didn't. I don't think it was a very smart decision because now people are afraid that WP8 will be just dropped when WP9 comes out.


I don't get it either because android OS is fragmented as well and not all apps run on all the different OS. As for what they did with WP8 android has done that with every OS update.

mrp04 said,

There is absolutely no technical reason WP8 doesn't run on the old WP7 phones.

Except the mandatory TPM and UEFI / SecureBoot bootloader, but who's counting those?

jhoff80 said,

Except the mandatory TPM and UEFI / SecureBoot bootloader, but who's counting those?

Don't forget the two different kernels. But what does that matter?