From the Forums: Why I'm abandoning Windows Phone


Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system appears to be a divisive topic among Neowin users.

While Neowin's own Max Slater-Robins recently switched to Windows Phone, some other users of the platform in our forums have reverted back to their previous smartphone operating systems of choice.

In a forum post, Neowin user thechronic said he's going to switch back to Android because his Lumia 800, which runs Windows Phone 7.8, is unable to run the latest and best Windows Phone apps. While thechronic said he enjoyed the platform, he added that the overall ecosystem simply isn't as strong as Android's.

"My Lumia 800 device is missing out on certain releases that are only available for Windows Phone 8, for example, [are] the new Facebook beta and Temple Run," he said. "The device should be capable of running such apps, so why am I being left out? I've only had it since the beginning of last year! Windows Phone 8 has more apps, but it doesn't seem that there are many major releases to choose from there either."

Other users have since chimed in saying they've also switched back to Android or iOS. A stronger app ecosystem also lured typu back to Android, though the Neowin user noted he may return to Windows Phone in a year or so when its ecosystem advances. Some users said they'll continue to support the Microsoft smartphone operating system, however.

Matthew_Thepc, for instance, said he prefers the look of Windows Phone over Android. One user also said he plans to make the switch from Android to Windows Phone soon. "I am planning on selling my Galaxy S 3 here in a week or so and picking up the Lumia 928," littleneutrino wrote.

The debate appears to have plenty of support on both sides, as several users aren't impressed with Windows Phone or its ecosystem thus far, while others have said they prefer the interface and how the platform works when compared to Android devices or the iPhone.

Have your own thoughts on the matter? Head on over to the forum topic and join the debate.

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I don't even care about the apps. I use this phone for work. Does it do email? Yes. Does it sync with our group's OneNote workbooks? Yes. Does it edit Office apps? Yes. Does it sync with SkyDrive and let me check on our SharePoint site (I'm the admin)? Yes.

VPN app is coming. I can wait. I can still use my phone as a hotspot and then connect my work laptop up to it. Citrix is coming too. I can't believe people like the Op just use it for a half a day and leave without really testing it.

briangw said,
I don't even care about the apps. I use this phone for work. Does it do email? Yes. Does it sync with our group's OneNote workbooks? Yes. Does it edit Office apps? Yes. Does it sync with SkyDrive and let me check on our SharePoint site (I'm the admin)? Yes.

VPN app is coming. I can wait. I can still use my phone as a hotspot and then connect my work laptop up to it. Citrix is coming too. I can't believe people like the Op just use it for a half a day and leave without really testing it.

I use My phone For business as well and I have a Lumia 920 therefore WP8 but I have no problems to admit that the "PDA" functionalities of the OS are still behind the ones that my HD2 with WM 6.5 offered. Different people have different needs: I do not need or care for Instagram or Facebook, for others these, or others apps and built-in functionalities could be a must have. It is all subjective.

Did they announce Citrix Receiver for WP7 and/or WP8? I have heard nothing yet, and could really use it. Hopefully, it'll work better than the "Windows 8 app-style" one they provided for Windows 8/RT.

xpxp2002 said,
Did they announce Citrix Receiver for WP7 and/or WP8? I have heard nothing yet, and could really use it. Hopefully, it'll work better than the "Windows 8 app-style" one they provided for Windows 8/RT.

For RT they did, not Windows Phone. I was reading an employee's blog entry and they were speculating having something this summer.

I've used nothing but Android so far, but if WP has the right apps next year, I can see giving it a try...but now, there's no way.

What a one sided title for a discussion that had people leaving other OS' and moving to WP as well.

Not to mention the issue was with an old version of WP, and basically moot. He wants to move to another OS because he doesn't want to upgrade his device to WP8. What?? An upgrade's an upgrade. LOL

And people move from one OS to another all the time. How is one forum user's choice front page news?

It's the title of the discussion -- click the link at the bottom.

It's on the front page because we routinely do From the Forums posts, typically during weekends, of topics that generate debate or conversation.

I think you're assuming too much as to why this was posted. I have an HTC Windows Phone 8X myself and love it, so it's not because I hate Windows Phone. From the Forums posts rarely draw many hits, so it's not because we're trying to link bait people. The title of the article is the same as the title of the forum topic, so it's not because we're trying to mislead people.

It's just a slow news day and it was an interesting topic. Nothing more, nothing less

Anthony Tosie said,
It's the title of the discussion -- click the link at the bottom.

It's on the front page because we routinely do From the Forums posts, typically during weekends, of topics that generate debate or conversation.

I think you're assuming too much as to why this was posted. I have an HTC Windows Phone 8X myself and love it, so it's not because I hate Windows Phone. From the Forums posts rarely draw many hits, so it's not because we're trying to link bait people. The title of the article is the same as the title of the forum topic, so it's not because we're trying to mislead people.

It's just a slow news day and it was an interesting topic. Nothing more, nothing less


Which I understand and is fine.

But at the same time, posting an argument with this many holes, you should expect people to point them out.

I don't care what phone the OP has. If he prefers Android, that's fine. If he's going to elaborate however, these arguments have to be the most bizarre I've heard (and I've heard some truly good criticisms of WP).

Genuine criticisms of WP are good, they drive the platform forward. Stupid ones just waste everyone's time...

Well, I have used my Lumia 920 for around 4.5 months. I switched from an iphone 4S. I loved the hardware, the camera, integration with office and skydrive. I love the people hub. But in the end, there just weren't enough apps. I'm not playing games on my mobile anymore as I carry my vita with me all the time, I use it primarly to listen to music.

Things I missed in windows phone:
- I love my last fm and I feel like I need a real time scrobbler no matter what (this is probably non important for most people).
- A decent music player, I somehow couldn't get used to windows phone music player (xbox music is pretty cool though).
- Google maps, I bought third party apps but they were just crap. Nokia maps is awesome for offline mapping, but it doesn't show up public transport in my area
- No real background running implementation for most apps (whatsapp just received it few weeks ago)

Probably not enough reasons to switch phones, but now I moved to android, got a HTC One, as I didn't want to go back to iOS. Loving it for now, but who knows, when the app store gets better I might move back to windows.

Man, some people have no loyalty or staying power.

Have fun on Android, although why you just didn't pick up a WP8 device is beyond me.

Walrush said,
Man, some people have no loyalty or staying power.

Have fun on Android, although why you just didn't pick up a WP8 device is beyond me.


Right? I'm truly befuddled... LOL

This is the most garbage article I've ever saw on here. Why the heck is this even on the front page? It's from the forums for a topic that's not even valid anymore... it's basically someone's misinformed opinion.
They announced the new Facebook is coming to 7.8 as well. Also, most of the top apps on iPhone/Android are already in the Store. Also, my 7.8 device has still been getting updates for my apps, not sure what the problem is? If you want the latest and greatest features you'll obviously have to get a capable device (i.e. a WP8) device.. otherwise you'll just get your regular app updates.

"My device is old and can't run the latest apps. I now have a choice to get a new phone. My choice is to switch to Android instead of getting the newer Windows Phone."

What? If your whole anger is that you can't run the newer apps, why not get the newer phone?

I'm thinking of doing the same. I have a WP 7.8 and I got it on a leap of faith for Microsoft and I simply don't feel like doing another leap for WP 8. I don't think MSFT has who (not the what) it takes to push the platform forward.

Since I don't feel like changing phones every two years, I might as well get an Android because in the end if I can't get a phone update because of the manufacturer or the carrier, I can always root the device and push its lifespan to the limit; and to me this is a fundamental advantage.

non of the wp8 phones support normal sim cards....
gonna stay with Omnia W until it dies. Got a new battery, should last me another couple of years.

after that, i'll be going back to unlocked Japanese phones...

Microsoft should lower its exorbitant license fees to a token $1 to encourage more manufacturers...

when i got my phone, Windows Phone 8 was about 9 months away and that OS still has application problems.

And the FB application was just an immediate example to show that im missing out on Applications that i'd love to have such as TVCatchUp.

Sounds fair, for most people, WP7.x was "discontinued" in a snap, even for newest devices and there is not warranty that MS will not do the same with WP8 (or WP8.1 or WP blue).

Get used to this!! Microsoft always launches something and forget about the old ones, backwards compatibility and etc. The first problem of this kind I had with Microsoft was when I bought the first Xbox (not 360) and one year later launched the Xbox 360 and the Xbox completely forgotten. My second problem was with the purchase of the Lumia 800 and times later said that Windows Phone 8.0 would not be compatible with WP8. I've had two problems of this type, so I'm used to.

I think I am one of the few people who doesn't really care much about apps. I use the core functions and very rarely do I ever need to stray outside into appland. I guess I just don't use it as a toy like a lot of folks do. For the day-to-day operations I do, I really love the Windows Phone.

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