Galaxy S4 takes the crown in Geekbench 2 scores

Less than a week after the unveiling of the Galaxy S4, the new Android superphone has already been subjected to the rigorous testing of Geekbench 2.

PrimateLabs founder John Poole has conducted benchmarks with the S4, including comparisons to competing smartphones - the HTC One, LG Nexus 4, Galaxy S3 (Exynos 4412), iPhone 5, BlackBerry Z10 and Galaxy S3 (Snapdragon MSM8690).

The newly announced Galaxy S4, which is set to be available to consumers in April, scored a 3,163 on the standard Geekbench 2 speed test, not far from double the iPhone 5's score of 1,596. The S4's score also far exceeded the HTC One, Nexus 4 and the previous iteration of the device, the Galaxy S3.

Most impressively, the test was performed using the slower edition of the S4. The U.S. version of Samsung's new flagship smartphone will be powered by a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset, featuring an integrated LTE radio. The U.S. version of the S4 will, however, be exceeded greatly by the international version of the device which packs an eight-core Exynos processor. 

The "eight core" claim associated with the international S4 version is a little misleading though. Whilst the Exynos 5 Octa chip technically holds eight distinct cores, the "big.LITTLE" arrangement created by ARM holds two processors that engage depending on the needs of user-performed tasks - one high-powered quad-core Cortex-A15 running at at 1.2GHz and one quad-core Cortex-A7 running at 1.6GHz.

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Sounds impressive but I have no regrets in going out and buying my Nexus 4 and at half nearly 2 thirds of the price of most other phones and still currently third on the list with the only phones beating not actually available yet i'm pretty pleased.

The frikkin Snapdragon almost doubled the iPhone 5 score. Imagine if this was the Octa core model.

Why didnt they include the Galaxy Note 2? Also why not include the Galaxy S III International which is also a quad. That way we could see how much better the quad has actually gotten?

And clocking the CPU @ 1.9GHz...which is almost 2GHz you can expect it will slaughter each and ever avail phone. For the ifans who talk about looks all the time...there is something for you to look at. Look how much faster our phone is.

I really wish people would quit comparing the scroll speed of Android devices vs that on iPhone or WP8 devices. You're comparing apples, oranges and bananas.

iPhone has not active applications (widgets) running on the homescreen, and barely multitasks at all; therefore its processor is doing practically nothing BUT scrolling the screen. Of course it will be smooth.

WP7 only has a small number of tiles that might possible be active, but nothing like as active as widgets often are. Also, it again barely multitasks.

Android however can have multiple widgets running simultaneously; all demanding processor and GPU time for their own operations which can and do interfere with core OS functions. On top of that you have the OEM's launchers running, which are probably also doing a crapton of stuff the other devices don't.

The only way to compare the three is shut down all background tasks, disable all widgets, and run on stock launcher so that Android is doing as little as the other 2. Do that, and Android will not lag any more than any of the others will.

This is why Androids generally are higher specced devices than the other 2 brands. They're doing a hell of a lot more than the other 2 are.

FloatingFatMan said,

This is why Androids generally are higher specced devices than the other 2 brands. They're doing a hell of a lot more than the other 2 are.

Saved me a lot of typing there. Well said.

And besides the lag is barely noticable, not like you have to go and make a drink while you wait. These level of arguments are on a par with PPI arguments. 99% of the people out there simply can not tell the difference.

Exactly. Let people use whichever phone suits their needs and desires most appropriately, and cut out the childish name calling of all the competition.

Personally, I don't particularly like the iPhone; but I don't generally go around calling it and the people who use it, childish names. I'd rather just get on with making use of the device I own.

LOL, look at those bench marks!! This test was done with the quad core? I wonder what results the octa core should produce!?

I don't think that the iPhone 5S will produce or beat the S4 bench marks this year!

ALL HAIL SAMSUNG GALAXY S4!!!

Frequency is a poor measure of processing power - measurements like FLOPS and MIPS would be more representative. ARM chips surpassed 10-year old desktop processors not all that long ago, so your dual core laptop might still have an edge on this depending on the exact chip and exactly what you're processing. It would probably be destroyed in a performance/watt test, though.

Why are the US versions always so slower than the International for Samsung phones?

Makes no ****ing sense.

DKAngel said,

australia has a quadcore lte model of the s3 so what are you saying?

The U.S doesn't use standard LTE frequencies like the rest of the world, they apparently love their carrier bloatware devices that don't even get regular updates.

yowanvista said,

The U.S doesn't use standard LTE frequencies like the rest of the world, they apparently love their carrier bloatware devices that don't even get regular updates.
How would you know?

rippleman said,
nice phone, too bad it didn't have IOS... too bad IOS doesn't have widgets...
I am gald it doesnt run iOS, because Apple would likely try to force the OEM's who used it, to not add features unless they add them first. If you like limited phones you have 2 options...Windows Phone or iPhone. I prefer freedom.

I love to see fans of other platforms say how much they wish iOS had this hardware, or feature or widgets. Yet they are to proud and to honory to switch to an Android device. I am so glad i did. The only thing I miss about iPhone is the quality in apps and my favorite games. But thats why I have an iPad. I get to enjoy both worlds...but since buying my Note 2, I rarely pick up the iPAd..the phone with my S-Pen is just to hard to put down as I love to draw. Which is why I plan to sell my iPad and get the Note 10.1

Astra.Xtreme said,
So quad cores bench higher than dual cores.... In other news...

Half of them are quad cores and 2 of the quads were not released that long ago. But specs like these are useless without the apps to take advantage of them. Still have my GNEX and it is fast and runs all the latest apps no problem.

techbeck said,

Half of them are quad cores and 2 of the quads were not released that long ago. But specs like these are useless without the apps to take advantage of them. Still have my GNEX and it is fast and runs all the latest apps no problem.

Yup agreed. I do understand that they need the extra juice to push the display and resolution, but the toll on the battery will be a concern. I'll be pretty shocked if the battery life is more than 8-12 hours. But yeah, all that processing power with little to no impact on performance.

Astra.Xtreme said,
Yup agreed. I do understand that they need the extra juice to push the display and resolution, but the toll on the battery will be a concern. I'll be pretty shocked if the battery life is more than 8-12 hours. But yeah, all that processing power with little to no impact on performance.

Even if the battery life is poor, which is a possibility, it's removable and you can carry around spares - you can't do that with the iPhone 5, Lumia 920 or HTC One. I like to carry around spares so that I can use my phone intensively, rather than moderating my usage or having to carry around a bulky recharger pack.

theyarecomingforyou said,

Even if the battery life is poor, which is a possibility, it's removable and you can carry around spares - you can't do that with the iPhone 5, Lumia 920 or HTC One. I like to carry around spares so that I can use my phone intensively, rather than moderating my usage or having to carry around a bulky recharger pack.

bulky recharger pack? an usb cable?
I carry around a second usb cable in my jacket, rather then an extra battery.

The battery wont be poor. The 8 core SoC uses less power than the SoC in the S3. The WHOLE point it has 8 cores in the first place is because four of them cores are low power A7 cores that are in use most of the time, like when navigating the UI and when the phone is idle. Combined with the larger battery this will last longer than the S3 which already had decent battery life. The 1080p display wont be enough to make the battery life worse considering all the other improvements.

Shadowzz said,
bulky recharger pack? an usb cable?
I carry around a second usb cable in my jacket, rather then an extra battery.

A USB cable is useless if you don't have access to a charging point. And a recharger pack has to be connected to the phone to work, which makes the phone remarkably unwieldy. Spare batteries are small and quick to install - I've found them incredibly useful on numerous occasions.

Other people may have different needs but for me a removable battery is virtually essential.

theyarecomingforyou said,

A USB cable is useless if you don't have access to a charging point. And a recharger pack has to be connected to the phone to work, which makes the phone remarkably unwieldy. Spare batteries are small and quick to install - I've found them incredibly useful on numerous occasions.

Other people may have different needs but for me a removable battery is virtually essential.


I haven't been in a situation for many years where an USB plug was far away. Worst case scenario is to ask someone a bit of juice from their laptop or non-iPad tablet.

Shadowzz said,

I haven't been in a situation for many years where an USB plug was far away. Worst case scenario is to ask someone a bit of juice from their laptop or non-iPad tablet.

Firstly, if I run out of battery while out in public (pub, coffee shop, etc) then a USB cable is no use to me. Secondly, that requires leaving your device connected, which makes it more difficult to use and if it's out of sight then it's a security risk. To me it is preferable to carry around a spare battery or two and on numerous occasions it's been essential.

theyarecomingforyou said,

A USB cable is useless if you don't have access to a charging point. And a recharger pack has to be connected to the phone to work, which makes the phone remarkably unwieldy. Spare batteries are small and quick to install - I've found them incredibly useful on numerous occasions.

Other people may have different needs but for me a removable battery is virtually essential.

I'd rather just have a phone that lasts a long time and not have to worry about any of that. I have a charger in my car and at my desk at home and at work. On a normal day, my battery never goes below 90%. And then on weekends, I can go without charging it for a couple days with moderate use. I won't disagree that having a replaceable battery would be nice though.

Astra.Xtreme said,
I'd rather just have a phone that lasts a long time and not have to worry about any of that.

Absolutely, but most phones with embedded batteries have no better capacity as those with removable batteries. Just look at the iPhone 5 (1440mAh), HTC One (2300mAh) and Lumia 920 (2000mAh), then compare it to the Galaxy S4 (2600mAh) which has a removable battery. That means it has the best of both worlds.

And the Lumia and HTC One are both recent phones, so it's not like I'm comparing old to new here.

theyarecomingforyou said,

Absolutely, but most phones with embedded batteries have no better capacity as those with removable batteries. Just look at the iPhone 5 (1440mAh), HTC One (2300mAh) and Lumia 920 (2000mAh), then compare it to the Galaxy S4 (2600mAh) which has a removable battery. That means it has the best of both worlds.

And the Lumia and HTC One are both recent phones, so it's not like I'm comparing old to new here.

The 920 has bad battery life, and some of the latest reviews of the HTC also say it has poor battery life. These big screens and high resolutions take a huge toll on the battery, and I'd be surprised if the S4 isn't the worst of them all regardless of it's huge battery. The Note 2 has an even bigger battery and much lesser specs than the S4, and its battery life is okay. Having that as a benchmark is a bad sign.

Astra.Xtreme said,
The 920 has bad battery life, and some of the latest reviews of the HTC also say it has poor battery life. These big screens and high resolutions take a huge toll on the battery, and I'd be surprised if the S4 isn't the worst of them all regardless of it's huge battery.

That's exactly why removable batteries are so important. I usually buy third-party batteries with higher capacity with a separate charger, because performance phones have poor battery life.

At least with the Motorola Razr Maxx it includes a 3300mAh battery, which is all the more significant when you consider it's only a 4.3" dual-core phone. It seems to be the only company that takes battery life seriously.

theyarecomingforyou said,

That's exactly why removable batteries are so important. I usually buy third-party batteries with higher capacity with a separate charger, because performance phones have poor battery life.

At least with the Motorola Razr Maxx it includes a 3300mAh battery, which is all the more significant when you consider it's only a 4.3" dual-core phone. It seems to be the only company that takes battery life seriously.

Wow, I didn't know the Razr had such a beast of a battery. That's what they should throw in all phones.

Astra.Xtreme said,
Wow, I didn't know the Razr had such a beast of a battery. That's what they should throw in all phones.

I know. It annoys me that HTC releases phone after phone with poor battery life and its solution with the HTC One was to embed the battery. The Lumia 920 looks like a great phone but the embedded battery and poor battery life means I won't even consider it.

Third party batteries cost barely anything, which makes it all the more bizarre that so many companies are skimping on them. If you're going to embed a battery on a 4.5"+ phone then it should be 3000mAh minimum.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Yup agreed. I do understand that they need the extra juice to push the display and resolution, but the toll on the battery will be a concern. I'll be pretty shocked if the battery life is more than 8-12 hours. But yeah, all that processing power with little to no impact on performance.

What toll on the battery...my Galaxy Note 2 has a quad as well. Its clocked at 1.6...I multi-task and watch movies periodically during the day. Now to be fare, I dont make or receive a lot of calls. But I do keep WIFI along with my 4G on all day. Also to be fair., the GN2 has a 3100Mah batt vs the GS4 having what a 2600 I think?

Based on how I use my phone, I pull it off the chatger everyday around 815AM when I leave for work....even when I get home I have about 40% left and if I dont charge it, it will have 20% left when I wake up which is enough for me to get to work with easily.

I dont think the GS4 even with a slightly smaller battery will be all that bad. I expect it will last almost as long as the GN2...as long as you dont have the motion stuff running all the time.

TechieXP said,

What toll on the battery...my Galaxy Note 2 has a quad as well. Its clocked at 1.6...I multi-task and watch movies periodically during the day. Now to be fare, I dont make or receive a lot of calls. But I do keep WIFI along with my 4G on all day. Also to be fair., the GN2 has a 3100Mah batt vs the GS4 having what a 2600 I think?

Based on how I use my phone, I pull it off the chatger everyday around 815AM when I leave for work....even when I get home I have about 40% left and if I dont charge it, it will have 20% left when I wake up which is enough for me to get to work with easily.

I dont think the GS4 even with a slightly smaller battery will be all that bad. I expect it will last almost as long as the GN2...as long as you dont have the motion stuff running all the time.

Yeah you get decent battery life on the Note because it has that huge battery, plus it has a very low quality screen compared to the S4. Taking those 2 things into consideration, we'd have to assume the S4 will get pretty crappy battery life.

As long as it can get a full day, which I'm pretty sure it can, it will be okay.
I only have the GS3 to compare to. But I can get a good 2 full days use before it really needs to charge. I don't use it heavily, but I do always keep wifi/4g on, check facebook, emails, youtube, few games, and text pretty frequently.
To expect to get anything more than a full days use on these powerful machines now is maybe expecting too much.

I would be surprised if it didn't score much higher on benchmarks than any phone out there since it sports 2 quad core processors...

Not the version that was tested, as outlined in the article. The version tested will only be available in the U.S. and contain a quad-core chip.

These benchmarks are done with the Snapdragon 600 version of the S4, which only has a quadcore (likely the version the US will get). The 8 core version of the S4 can only use 4 cores at once anyway. It cant use all 8 at once. It has four slower A7 cores to save power, which are used when navigating to UI and doing simple tasks. It switches over to the four faster A15 cores when more performance is needed - stuff like gaming and benchmarks.

And we all know you have used it, so this statement must be true. I mean, if the SG3 has Zero lag, I'm sure the faster SG4 will have tons of it.

Drossel said,
It doesn't matter. The phone is still laggy as hell.

Must be nice to be able to say that for an unreleased product that no one buy a select few have had the opportunity to use.

benbuffone said,
For all who are sticking up for the S4, actually watch the video Drossel posted. It lags.

All phones lag. It is not laggy as hell.

benbuffone said,
For all who are sticking up for the S4, actually watch the video Drossel posted. It lags.

The widget screen loading the first time it lags, not a POS he makes it out to be. Not a deal breaker for me personally.

If you have actually ever even used a Galaxy S3, you would know that these phones have barely any lag. The only time I ever get mine to lag is when I KILL all the running widgets and apps, then instantly go into my "widget heavy screen" and it lags for a second to load up all the widgets. After that, I don't ever see any lag. This is all while using the stock TouchWiz Rom, and even when running another launcher over TouchWiz.
Going by how fast the S3 actually is, and if you ever used one, you would understand why plenty of people know there is ZERO lag on these newer devices.
People who "think" these phones lag, are just either trolling or uneducated on how fast smart phones are now.

mr_sock_00 said,

The widget screen loading the first time it lags, not a POS he makes it out to be. Not a deal breaker for me personally.

Sorry just to add all android devices LAG, its the way google built it.

shakey said,
I mean, if the SG3 has Zero lag, I'm sure the faster SG4 will have tons of it.

I have a Galaxy S3 and it does have some lag. If you want to see what a smooth UI actually looks like then give WP8 a go. I think because Android users are so used to lag they can't even notice it now.

Theres hands-on vids of the Galaxy S4 on youtube where you can see lag. It should be obvious to anyone who actually knows about hardware that the S4 will have lag anyway, because if the S3 does then the S4 will, as with the 8 core version of the S4 it uses the four A7 cores for less demanding tasks - like the UI. These cores are no faster than the cores in the S3. The other four faster A15 cores are only powered up when doing demanding stuff like gaming.

benbuffone said,
For all who are sticking up for the S4, actually watch the video Drossel posted. It lags.

Oh no the horror, a pre-production device had a few lags.

W32.Backdoor.KillAV.E said,

I have a Galaxy S3 and it does have some lag. If you want to see what a smooth UI actually looks like then give WP8 a go. I think because Android users are so used to lag they can't even notice it now.

WP8 lags as well and yes, there are videos.

Its not that Android users cannot see lag, its just that Android users dont make a point to moan when there is a slight lag in the system. Android lag has always been, and apparently always will be, a way for Android haters to knock the platform.

So equipment studders for a split second at times...big whoop. Not going to ruin of affect my day.

W32.Backdoor.KillAV.E said,

I have a Galaxy S3 and it does have some lag. If you want to see what a smooth UI actually looks like then give WP8 a go. I think because Android users are so used to lag they can't even notice it now.

Theres hands-on vids of the Galaxy S4 on youtube where you can see lag. It should be obvious to anyone who actually knows about hardware that the S4 will have lag anyway, because if the S3 does then the S4 will, as with the 8 core version of the S4 it uses the four A7 cores for less demanding tasks - like the UI. These cores are no faster than the cores in the S3. The other four faster A15 cores are only powered up when doing demanding stuff like gaming.

The way android is built is like a pc. If you start up the device and flip thru quickly u will notice some lag. More cores will help but I think the "lag/hiccups" are more on googles initial native coding than the devices.

Totally agree on lag. I'm not going to say my phone doesn't, but my iPad 2 does also. It not enough to make me not use it or enjoy it.

And I'm still running a Droid 2 with Android 4.0.3. I should get my S3 tomorrow. Pretty excited about that

mr_sock_00 said,

Sorry just to add all android devices LAG, its the way google built it.

I'd love to see either your or Google's source on that.

shakey said,
If you have actually ever even used a Galaxy S3, you would know that these phones have barely any lag. The only time I ever get mine to lag is when I KILL all the running widgets and apps, then instantly go into my "widget heavy screen" and it lags for a second to load up all the widgets. After that, I don't ever see any lag. This is all while using the stock TouchWiz Rom, and even when running another launcher over TouchWiz.
Going by how fast the S3 actually is, and if you ever used one, you would understand why plenty of people know there is ZERO lag on these newer devices.
People who "think" these phones lag, are just either trolling or uneducated on how fast smart phones are now.

I use an S3 I would say it does lag. I9300 I mean. Not I9305 or the US/Korea/Japan versions of S3.
The I9300 is really really barely enough ram. Using 1gb ram on a 720p phone is a mistake.
The Note 2 however is way better but still I would say the Nexus 4 is the best currently in terms of smoothness currently in the market for Android.

techbeck said,

All phones lag. It is not laggy as hell.

My 920 doesn't lag like that, lets face it Android lags and the S4 is no exception...

mr_sock_00 said,

The widget screen loading the first time it lags, not a POS he makes it out to be. Not a deal breaker for me personally.

Widget screen always lag for touchwiz... But not on AOSP launchers like Apex.

but it is the most upto date Android plus the Samsung developers may have rushed to get it out - I'm sure there will be an update to level things out (iPhone 4s user BTW)

ingramator said,

My 920 doesn't lag like that, lets face it Android lags and the S4 is no exception...

Did I say that Android doesnt lag or the S4 doest? Read a little. I said it isnt as bad as what people think or bitch about.

And it is hilarious that people like to complaining about minor lag that happens every now and then. People have to much time on their hands or just like to wine about things. Its a phone, it takes a second longer at times to load a program. Life will not end and the world will still be turning. If it was a big deal, then why the hell are people buying the Galaxy phones in droves? Obviously its not a big deal to most.

And PS...there are people stating they have lag on their Nokia 920s. So my statement stands, every phone has lag at some point. Some more than others.

Edited by techbeck, Mar 20 2013, 12:23pm :

I think sometimes people forget the sheer computing power they are able to carry in their pockets now.

20 years ago. My brand new computer didn't come close to the specs my phone has today. And they make out the lag is a deal breaker.

If my phone lags a little, but can provide me with all my entertainment, social, communication and music needs, well **** me, it can lag a little.

shakey said,
And we all know you have used it, so this statement must be true. I mean, if the SG3 has Zero lag, I'm sure the faster SG4 will have tons of it.
Don't feed the troll.

Drossel said,
It doesn't matter. The phone is still laggy as hell.
do you have one already? NOPE. Fact! The device right now has Jely Bean 4.2.2 which is just a little update to 4.2.1 which the Galaxy Note 2 has right now. It isnt laggy by a long shot. So throw more ghz at it and you think it will be laggy?

It's ok to crack joke, but to display purposeful ignorance, must really be bliss for you

I saw the video, what I was seeing was not lag. What I did see is this. As a programmer myself, hardware has gotten so fast that if you allowed the UI to run at full speed, it would move to fast for normal usage. It looks like the devs just slowed the UI down a bit. When launching an app for the first time, even on the fastest PC, its never instantaneous.

I didn't see any lag. What I did see is when he loaded the widget screen, each widget loaded on its own because each widget uses its own API...so they will never load at the same time. It does the exact same thing on my GS3 and GN2.

If you wnat to see what lag is, take a iPhone 5 or iPad 2,3 & 4 and open up the app store. Open up the settings screen. That's lag bro. When u use the rest of the UI it moves at normal speed. Anytime a single application has to load other apps witj it, there will be some slowness. That is normal. You're just so gungho on saying something bad you truly dont even understand what you are seeing.

As another poster stated, all computers have lag; its the nature of how software interacts with hardware. But your claim that its "laggy as hell" using YOUR exact words...is not more than fantastic fanboish hate because you are jealous we have a device that makes the iPhone look like a frikkin dinosaur. Oh and this was just the Snapdragon model using only a quad and the Adreno 320 which is an awesome GPU that I wished my GN2 had. What you think the Cortex A-7 in the International version is going ot do? I am betting it will double the speed.

And likely Apple will release their modified A7 which might beat either dveice or just come close. Who knows. But right now...even the HTC One which uses the same Snapdragon tho clocked a little slower and ther same Adreno 320 CPU...yet the GS4 has a larger screen, same resolution.

I think this phone came out better because of the extra clock speed and teh fact AMOLED screens only draw color where color is needed...unlike LCD screens which have to basically draw every color except white.

Either way, its not laggy as hell. The iPhone is so small they are hoping you dont see how laggy it is. For a phone that has full multi-tasking capability, has motion detection, NFC and more...vs the crappy iPhone and some other phones I could name. For it to be as smooth as it is, I see nothing to complain about. You're just a hater that your fan favorite has fallen so behind in the times it isnt funny. Good luck on the iPhone 5S getting NFC and any motion detection.