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Xbox sales are up: game console bundled with two Sega games

Mr magoo   on 13 November 2002 - 21:22 · 20 comments & 1693 views

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More Xbox news today although this time is has nothing to do with hacking.. Microsoft is bundling their Xbox game console with two new games developed by Sega (DreamCast rings a bell?) to gain a bigger market share. This seems to be working, although Sony's PlayStation 2 is still by far the most popular game console:


"The $199 combination puts Xbox on sale with Sega's "Jet Set Radio Future" and "Sega GT 2002," and has helped improve Xbox's sales performance against Sony's PlayStation 2, according to UBS analyst Michael Wallace.

"Our channel checks indicate hardware sales have remained strong into the beginning of November. In particular, we have heard that the Xbox/Sega bundle is having a positive impact on Xbox sales," Wallace said. "While PS2 will almost certainly remain the leader, we believe Xbox has had a significant improvement," he added.

Sony's PlayStation 2, or PS2, console was released a year before both the Xbox and Nintendo's GameCube console, and it dominates the video game market. Analysts widely expect Xbox and GameCube to fight for second place. "



It's getting more and more attractive to buy a new game console! Nintendo has also just recently started a bundle of its own, packaging the GameCube with its "Super Mario Sunshine" game and an external memory card for $189, $40 more than the GameCube stand-alone price.

News source: CD Freaks


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#1 vespaman on 13 Nov 2002 - 21:28
hi, yes..i just exchanged my ps2 + lord of the rings: the two towers with the xbox bundle. although some people would say ps2 is way better...but xbox has more good graphic..my personal opinion though. and almost ps2 games are available in xbox too..such dynasty warriors 3 which need a high graphic console which is xbox
#2 eilegz on 13 Nov 2002 - 21:41
i prefer a game cube have a lot good games but ps2 its very good too anyways xbox is a wannabe sony but more M4$ style so what do u expect from both companies that just fokus in many thing other than games. NNintendo is my choice is funny its good and RE series is there for the ones that is looking for gore and blood theres also eternal datkness its a very good game in fact
(1 reply) #3 Cryptic_Night on 13 Nov 2002 - 22:17
In response to #2. 1. There are such things as capitals and grammer. 2. Xbox is not a wannabe. If it is then Sony is also a wannabe because it's quite new in the business itself (Nintendo's 5th console while this is Sony's second). 3. Nintendo is great and so is Sony (GTA Vice City *drool*). Xbox is equally great if you give it a chance and you actually try it. Anywayz I have that Sega bundle and I'm having a blast with it. Also I advise you to try Halo eilegz just for the fun of it
#3.1 xWeston on 14 Nov 2002 - 06:18
There is also something called grammar.
#4 vetDazzla on 13 Nov 2002 - 22:24
Xbox sales have increased massively in the UK, up 42% last week and up 46% the week before that. It's massively outselling Gamecube here and catching up to Sony, it's [i]only[/i] being outsold 3:1. Different story in Japan though, sales have bottomed and Gamecube is increasing in sales.
(2 replies) #5 twist on 13 Nov 2002 - 23:49
only way it could go... increased 100% this week. sold 4 units.
#5.1 vetDazzla on 14 Nov 2002 - 00:00
Hahaha, true.
#5.2 twist on 14 Nov 2002 - 02:03
you know it gc guy
(1 reply) #6 gameguy34 on 14 Nov 2002 - 02:36
if u ask me, xbox is a far superior console to ps2. it has a geforce3 in it which delivers incredible graphics, those of which i have yet to see in any ps2 game. (halo STILL has better graphics than most ps2 games, not all, but most) ps2 is ok overall, but i cant stand most of the games coming out for it. if it werent for final fantasy, id ditch my ps2 and trade it in for an xbox. til then, i gotta save up 200 bucks for one. as for gamecube, i believe nintendos days are over, and the only reason id get one is for the new resident evil games.
#6.1 twist on 14 Nov 2002 - 06:35
nintendo's days are over? it could ditch the gc and still make more money then m$ does off the xbox. purely on gb/gba sales alone. nintendo has many proven titles that will only be released for it, what does xbox have? halo, gimme a break. sure the graphics are nice, cause there is maybe 8 textures in the whole game, same thing over and over. the only way xbox will even sell consoles is if they are really easy to mod, thats most likely why sales have increased at all. ubs is a european company, there are no details on this improvement, most likely its just in europe. xbox is doing terrible in asia. ps2 / gc are selling good there. which do you think matters more in the video game market? europe or asia? i'll give you a hint, its not europe.
#7 Cryptic_Night on 14 Nov 2002 - 02:48
But you have to remember gameguy34, it's not the graphics that matters, it's the games (unless you buy systems ONLY for the specs)
(1 reply) #8 insurektion on 14 Nov 2002 - 04:31
ps2 users generally are like bmw drivers they have a grat product but asuume nothing is better, that because they own one how dare anything try to compete. in actual fact i have tried all three ps2 is great for gta (3 and vc) and a few more but that is about all i ca n think of cept mabye ffx but that is getting old. xbox is a great over all console and with a rip off of gta3 which is good for me cuase i only have xbox i am looking forward to it. xbox so far has quite a few good games. game cube is excellent with mario sunshine and resident evil. i would argue xbox has some of the best games with halo, unreal, tony hawk series. it also has excellent broadband capabilities (use xbconnect not gamespy) and live will be incredible. socom for ps2 online is crap. slow, requires too much knlowedge for the avg. person. (not neowin person) and can only have 1 person/ console. xbox 4/console. i cannot comment on gamecube broadband but gamecube is also a great platform. all of them have their pros and cons. but i am sick of ps2 owners saying stuff like (oh m$ just wants more cash obviously they want more money so does any business just cause they have been unusually succesful doesnt mean they can't go for more green. i like all systems but ps2 for me is tied in 1st with xbox. but when the free ride (or whatever xb's ripoff of gta3 is called comes out xbox is on top.
#8.1 jago6498 on 14 Nov 2002 - 07:54


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#9 vettimdorr on 14 Nov 2002 - 04:54
i love when people give games NOT EVEN OUT as reasons for buying a system....
#10 theh0g on 14 Nov 2002 - 08:58
Yah, XBOX is better, that's why they have to give you free games so people would buy it at all. get real. #3: if anyone is a wannabe its Microsoft with their XBOX, they simply can't get the popularity os PS2 cuz Sony is in console business and they know their stuff, M$ is in here just so they can dominate all markets. I had xbox for awhile and that's simply not it, games are very poor compared to PS2 (that might change, I know). And yeah, it's Sony's 2nd console, but look how long PSX is alive and they are STILL making games for it. Their consoles last longer - if you wanna buy new Nintendo console every 2 years (same will be with M$, I bet ya anything), go ahead, I'm quite happy with my PS2 (used to have a DC which 0wn3d, but no more games are made for it so I sold it). Oh, not to mention XBOX looking like some HUGE old VRC. All its missing are 12:00 blinking p.s. I like Nintendo products, don't get me wrong here..Mario rocks!

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#11 Zerosignull on 14 Nov 2002 - 10:34
o/c the xbox has better graphics then the PS2 it is like 2 years newer then the Ps2 arcutecture and is way underpriced to help its sales performance
(1 reply) #12 ishtar on 14 Nov 2002 - 11:47
Yea I bought the xbox awesome graphics on big screen. My nephew saved his money and got a ps2 the graphics suck my opinion he shoulda kept his dreamcast and waited for ps3
#12.1 jago6498 on 14 Nov 2002 - 20:40
typical fanboy who thinks that graphics are everything. Consoles have a 5 to 6 year life before the the power is fully utilized. If you have been playing console games for as long as I have (1987 - NES; I'm 22 btw) then you know that it takes time. Developers are able to get more out of the xbox b/c it is basically a PC (P3, nVidia DSP & GPU), IDE HDD, etc.) and they know more about that hardware then the Gamecube and PS2. BUT, developers say that the xbox and Gamecube are the easiest to develop for.
(1 reply) #13 adam2001 on 14 Nov 2002 - 14:47
Im just wondering how much money MS is losing now on every XBOX sale
#13.1 twist on 14 Nov 2002 - 22:06
to much. they lose money on the console alone. add 2 games, which i'm sure sega just doesn't give away to them and they lose even more. sure it may boost sales for a while and sell some more consoles. but will thoose people buy anough games to acctually cover the lose? i know i'd mod my xbox before buying a game for it. none of the games interest me enough to shell out $80 for. but shell out $100 for a chip and basically unlimited games, i'll do that.

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