Official Star Trek Elite Force II Site Launched
Posted by Marcel Klum on 19 April 2003 - 16:54 · 7 comments & 180 views
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#1 Posted by Jerichohol on 19 Apr 2003 - 19:10
- excellent
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#2 Posted by nacs on 19 Apr 2003 - 19:38
- Nice [URL=http://www.st-ef2.com/downloads/EF2d_1280x1024.jpg]models.[/URL]
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#3 Posted by Star_Trek85 on 20 Apr 2003 - 04:49
- Cant wait to buy the game.
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#4 Posted by EddiE314 on 20 Apr 2003 - 08:29
- much nicer on the eyes than the first one....also hated the fact that Jeri Ryan didn't do the voices of 7 of 9.
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#5 Posted by Knight' on 20 Apr 2003 - 09:55
- Hmm, same graphics? I don't see much (if any improvement) over the last one by the screen shots. They should have used Unreal2 engine.
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#5.1 Posted by blackice912 on 20 Apr 2003 - 11:23
- I was thinking the same thing. Why stay with the Q3 engine?
Mozillazine's forums have been inaccessable for the past couple of hours for me. When the blackout on the forums was first encountered, an error page showed a suspicious message. Note that this message has now been replaced by a "Technical Difficulties" notification. Have the forums been hacked? And by who? Perhaps by Firebird database zealots who have been trolling constantly for the past several days, or could it be some anonymous hacker, taking advantage of the immaturity of both sides of this battle, and attempting to instigate a open source war?
Clearly, this issue must be resolved quickly before it escalates any further, but the question remains, how can both sides be appeased? Phoenix browser's developers spent a long time researching their new name on the legal battleground. The official verdict? All clear. Unfortunately, Firebird database and its supporters have put up a wall of resistance to any sort of civil discussion over the issue. Those on the old Phoenix forums who are attempting to offer their opinions and support are being overwhelmed by the sheer number of users who try to spread confusion and anger in the name of their beloved database. After having their e-mail addresses posted publicly on a Firebird Protest page, several members of the Phoenix/Firebird development team had their accounts mailbombed. Other members have even been impersonated by these childish brats. Does the Firebird database team really deserve to keep their name unique if they cater to the whims of these cretins? While the official Firebird database team has stated that they "sincerely hope to avoid" any conflicts, evidence posts on Firebird browser's forums suggest otherwise.
Nearly every article I have come across lately has addressed this issue from Firebird Database's perspective. Perhaps it is high time to see this from the Phoenix Team's point of view.
- Firebird is a common name, owned by a number (over 60) open source projects, none of which have attempted to secure the name as an official trademark.
- By chance, Firebird is also a common english word, the name of a car, etc.
- Firebird database is simply a database. Firebird browser is a browser built for surfing the net, serving the same purpose as Netscape, or IE, or Mozilla. A database is NOT the same thing as a browser.
- The Phoenix Team did NOT know that Firebird database supporters would object to one more open source project sharing its name, in the light that there were already open source software projects existing which also had the name Firebird.
- Claims that this naming will cause confusion have been blown out of proportion. One project is a database. The other is a browser. There is nothing stopping people from referring to one as Firebird database, and Firebird browser.
- You don't whack someone if they happen to have the same name as you.
I believe that there has been a misunderstanding between the two projects, however, with time, and perhaps a little tolerance, from both sides, this issue will blow itself over.