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[neoquote=#3.0 by rx--]bleh.. Xbox Live should really be free. I mean what does paying for Xbox Live get you? NOTHING. You still have to pay separate fees for some games, and you have to run your own servers on your capped low-bandwidth laggy DSL/cable connection. I think Sega had it right with the Dreamcast/SegaNet. Except for one game, it was completely free, and they hosted dedicated low-latency servers.[/neoquote] the keywords are SOME GAMES. you think Sega had it right?? lol don't make me laugh, Sega is the main one charging a seperate fee for their game, Phantasy Star Online. so everybody is out to make some money. $50 for an entire year is a damn good buy.

[neoquote=#3.1 by macrosslover]the keywords are SOME GAMES. you think Sega had it right?? lol don't make me laugh, Sega is the main one charging a seperate fee for their game, Phantasy Star Online. so everybody is out to make some money. $50 for an entire year is a damn good buy.[/neoquote] What? There was 1 game with extra fees for the Dreamcast. 1! For free you could play a ton of games online. Of course, Sega went out of business. Oh, if only they had known stupid people would be willing to pay for an ISP and a service that lets them play online, and extra fees for some games. I mean, a company could make some good money that way

[neoquote=#3.1 by macrosslover]$50 for an entire year is a damn good buy.[/neoquote] It's amazing how Microsoft has actually brainwashed some twits into thinking that paying something for nothing is actually a "damn good buy"! ROTFLMFAO!

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you cant have everything for free.. jeez, open your wallet every now and again... Did McDonalds brainwash you into paying for your burger? or is it you just can't steal it ..

[neoquote=#3.3 by rx--]It's amazing how Microsoft has actually brainwashed this twit into thinking that paying something for nothing is actually a "damn good buy"! ROTFLMFAO![/neoquote] it's amazing how stupid you are to realize what you get for that $50. unreal, mechassualt, ghost recon, splinter cell...soon to be dead or alive, the list goes on and ALL of them included in the $50. dumb fart. can i downloaded new levels to games on the ps2??? what's that you say hell no??? of course not, that right there warrants $50.

[quote]it's amazing how stupid you are to realize what you get for that $50. unreal, mechassualt, ghost recon, splinter cell...soon to be dead or alive, the list goes on and ALL of them included in the $50. dumb fart.[/quote]Again, normal users host the servers, at no cost to Microsoft or the game developer. Some of these games are also completely free to play on other platforms. [quote]can i downloaded new levels to games on the ps2???[/quote]Yes, actually you can. Same for all other platforms, including GameCube (PSO has lots of downloadable content and such), and PC.

[neoquote=#3.6 by rx--][quote]it's amazing how stupid you are to realize what you get for that $50. unreal, mechassualt, ghost recon, splinter cell...soon to be dead or alive, the list goes on and ALL of them included in the $50. dumb fart.[/quote]Again, normal users host the servers, at no cost to Microsoft or the game developer. Some of these games are also completely free to play on other platforms. [quote]can i downloaded new levels to games on the ps2???[/quote]Yes, actually you can. Same for all other platforms, including GameCube (PSO has lots of downloadable content and such), and PC.[/neoquote] oh give me a break, you can't download new levels for Splinter Cell on the Cube or Ps2. you can't download new mutliplayer modes and maps on the GCN...where are you going to store it?? Ghost recon on the Gamecube doesn't have online play and you can't download new missions for the GCN version of Splinter Cell. Clone wars for GCN and PS2 doesn't have online play. they spend extra development time adding it to the xbox version, which costs them more money. while they aren't getting any of the $50 from Live, MS still asks for the money because running servers 24/7 costs money. while the games may be player hosted, they are running off a centralized server farm which costs money. the bandwidth to download new content cost money out of MS's pocket. you mention the glories of PSO which charges a monthly fee, but criticize Live which charges one flat fee for a year, wtf?? i can see if the Gamecube had other online games for you to compare, but they don't. they only have PSO. it cost money for the developers to spend extra time developing more levels and more content for a game that has already been in the store shelves for months. comparing PC to consoles?? funny i thought we were talking strictly about consoles here. considering with the PS2 and GCN service you're going to have to pay extra for the modem which is about $40 in some areas, it ain't exactly free either.

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who are you talking to?

[neoquote=#4.0 by ChadyzGroove]you have to pay extra for PSO[/neoquote] Exactly. There are also more titles on the way that will require an addition fee, one off the top of my head is Star Wars Galaxies.

[QUOTE]one off the top of my head is Star Wars Galaxies.[/QUOTE] Too bad SWG got canned for the X-Box... Thank God too, keep the MMORPGs to the PC where they belong!

[neoquote=#5.0 by spIdeZ]Sorry ChadyzGroove the fees are true. It's also at www.ign.com[/neoquote] [QUOTE]It's not a focus for us right now. We're focused on expanding the content, community, and competition on Live. Of the more than 100 Live games that will be available to choose from in the next year, I'd guess only a few—and perhaps only Phantasy Star Online from Sega's Sonic Team—will require a monthly fee. [/QUOTE] Andre Vrignaud - Director of Technical Strategy for Xbox Live.

[neoquote=#7.0 by devinlamothe]Sega did have it right with Dreamcast, IMO. People don't want to pay more and more to play online and what Microsoft is doing by charging EXTRA for voice and data is just rediculous. With the other consoles all you need is an ISP and you can go online. Sure there is a charge for some games, but to pay for games AND to play online is insane. You would think with all the money Microsoft is making they could at least keept it free so we don't have to be multi millionaires to play online. [/neoquote] ok if you can't afford $50 then you don't need to be playing any consoles online.

[neoquote=#9.0 by ‡GÒЧÉÑT‡®]Hmm $5.99 a month or $49.99 per year for hundreds of games and content on the Xbox, or $4.95/monthly for just EA games on the PS2. I Think the I'll go with the XBox model[/neoquote] Still costs too much IMO