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(3 replies) #1 Posted by sonob on 18 Dec 2003 - 22:52

wont this ever stop the game will never be released!!!

#1.1 Posted by H|LLT0P on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:01

OH Cruel fate.... why do you MOCK me so.... /sarcasm

#1.2 Posted by mipra on 19 Dec 2003 - 01:48

Blah..tired of waiting

#1.3 Posted by Kestrel on 19 Dec 2003 - 05:46

Have you ever heard the old adage that a thousand monkeys sitting at a thousand typewriters for a thousand years would eventually produce all the works of Shakespeare? 3D Realms has... they appear to be using it as a development philosophy.

This is a BattleCruiser 3000AD moment - a vapourware game that is delayed again and again until SOMETHING is finally shoved out the door only to fail miserably the second it does. I predict a HUGE flop in DNF for 3D Realms.

(1 reply) #2 Posted by RaWShadow on 18 Dec 2003 - 22:55

It will be delayed again in 2005

#2.1 Posted by Trix on 19 Dec 2003 - 11:38

toooo true!

(1 reply) #3 Posted by qrich19 on 18 Dec 2003 - 22:58

wonder which engine they are using this time

#3.1 Posted by RauL on 19 Dec 2003 - 19:07

Unreal Warfare [Havok] , the sweet and lovely about this is that the new "Unreal Engine 3" comes next year , so I wonder if they will switch

(1 reply) #4 Posted by gadean on 18 Dec 2003 - 22:59

is this another joke? LOL!! If development time is this slow.. think of the time it would take to release patches!

#4.1 Posted by Lurchybaby on 19 Dec 2003 - 18:10

For taking this long, the game ought to be perfect and not need patching. But we know that won't be true in the slightest....

#5 Posted by TranceSphere on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:02

HHAHAHAHAAH

ROFLMAO

#6 Posted by mrmumbles on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:07

by 2005 is anyone really going to care? unless they pull something totally amazing outta the bag that blows away everything..........

#7 Posted by thenay on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:11

by the time this is released, whenever that is... i'll prolly be old and 80... LOL
*it will get delayed again and again* bah!

(1 reply) #8 Posted by Apollo on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:11

*sigh*

#8.1 Posted by mipra on 19 Dec 2003 - 01:48

#9 Posted by X3M on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:13

more like No duke nukem forever 'till... forever

#10 Posted by Toxicfume on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:20

it is delayed to be dalyed.

#11 Posted by kaptain chump on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:25

screw those losers

#12 Posted by h4x0r b4k3r on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:26

lol@ taketwo.

they try to be like valve but they just cant.

#13 Posted by mrk on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:32

yeah but whne the game is finally released and the final build screenshots emerge you will see

BWAHAHAHHA

#14 Posted by sodapop on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:49

Really, Who cares about about duke nukem now? I mean Battlefield 1942 and HL2 have already put it to shame and it's not even out yet.

#15 Posted by Danrarbc641 on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:52

QUOTE

No Duke Nukem Forever 'til 2005?

Who's surprised at this news?

Anyone?


Hellooooo...


Guess not.



Really though, at this point a bigger surprise would be seeing a "Duke Nukem Forever confirmed firm release date" story.

(3 replies) #16 Posted by Lingwo on 18 Dec 2003 - 23:56

Who are developing Duke Nukem Forever? A pack of dogs!
edit: whoops

Last edited by 26705 on 20 Dec 2003 - 13:31

#16.1 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 19 Dec 2003 - 13:21

Who is contributing useless comments? Lingwo!

#16.2 Posted by insurektion on 20 Dec 2003 - 04:38

So are you and now so am I. Go have a hot chocolate!

#16.3 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 21 Dec 2003 - 16:35

Hmmmmmm

#17 Posted by jymi on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:08

by the time they release no-one will care, iv already forgotten about it

(1 reply) #18 Posted by Intelligen on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:18

I admit, i forgot about it until they said something. Why didn't they just code it in secret that way the public wouldn't know everytime they keep delaying it. Or how about put a long deadline on it from the start!

#18.1 Posted by mipra on 19 Dec 2003 - 01:49

They just dont care about us...right?

#19 Posted by Jdawg683 on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:40

Duke Nukem *takes* Forever

#20 Posted by briangw on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:47

time to change the engine again by that time

#21 Posted by Daedalus on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:50

Those 1000 monkeys can only type out the code on 1000 typewriters so fast... give them a chance

(1 reply) #22 Posted by radixvir on 19 Dec 2003 - 00:59

i heard the delay is so microsoft can bundle it with longhorn

#22.1 Posted by divertom15 on 19 Dec 2003 - 15:56

I heard the delay is so microsoft can bundle it with blackcomb

#23 Posted by Fotix on 19 Dec 2003 - 01:32

Ahahaha that's too damn funny.

#24 Posted by Zepolcire on 19 Dec 2003 - 01:33

This is bad for the developer. Like everyone says, by the time it comes out, no one will care and their reactions will be "Oh ya, I remeber that game" and then go buy something else. I think they should cancel the project.

#25 Posted by siniik on 19 Dec 2003 - 02:07

by the time this game comes out I will be paying for it with my social security check.

(4 replies) #26 Posted by i like chips on 19 Dec 2003 - 02:09

why is it DELAYED when there NEVER was a release date for this game? I don't get it. Can you imagine if ALL games took this long to make? holy hell pc gaming would die.

#26.1 Posted by knightryderrwn on 19 Dec 2003 - 02:14

would die? It already is dying.....

#26.2 Posted by Smufie on 19 Dec 2003 - 08:26

Oh reaaheellyyy?

#26.3 Posted by knightryderrwn on 20 Dec 2003 - 23:52

Yes, reaaheellyyy. Think about it - game developers closing, stores threatening to pull PC games off their shelves, game release dates slipping to infinity.....doesn't bode well.

Besides that, there's this simple comparison:

Consoles:

Turn console on, insert game, press "Start," and play

PC's:

Download all necessary patches
Ensure graphics & sound card drivers are up-to-date
Ensure DirectX is latest version
Ensure system has enough memory and CPU power to run the game


And, with console games becoming almost as vivid and realistic as PC games, but without the headaches, it's no wonder...

Bob

#26.4 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 21 Dec 2003 - 16:36

QUOTE (#26.3)

Download all necessary patches Ensure graphics & sound card drivers are up-to-date Ensure DirectX is latest version Ensure system has enough memory and CPU power to run the game

Erm.
That's usually stuff you KNOW before hand. If you call launching setup, clicking next next next next and then playing...

Don't install Linux.

#27 Posted by Ash on 19 Dec 2003 - 02:33

That would make it about 8 years in development.It better be the most godlyiest game EVER, with having that kinda time table.

#28 Posted by Keldyn on 19 Dec 2003 - 02:33

LOL I stopped caring years ago.

#29 Posted by BeLGaRaTh on 19 Dec 2003 - 03:03

Does anyone still care about this game? I gave up on it about 3yrs ago.

#30 Posted by ripgut on 19 Dec 2003 - 03:40

i predict itll be delayed in 2030 when dx 20 is out

(8 replies) #31 Posted by Rave on 19 Dec 2003 - 03:46

The worst thing is that by the time they release it they will have lost a large percentage of the gaming community to age! I mean think about it, Duke Nukem 3D was released in 1995 or somewhere there abouts and was quickly surpased by Quake. The majority of gamers that are likley to play Duke Nukem Forever are probably 15 - 20 year olds. These people would have been 5 and 10 years old respectively when Duke 3D was released. Are they really going to remember Duke 3D? Will they care there is a new one? Sure Duke was cool back then...

The gamers that played Duke back then assuming the same age group, 15 - 20 year olds. Will be 25 - 30 by the time Duke nukem Forever is release (if) a lot of those people have no doubt moved on and are no longer as interested in PC games. There is no way that Duke nukem Forever will have anywhere near the same impact that it would have in 1997. I say give up 3D Relams, move on.

#31.1 Posted by Zelpus on 19 Dec 2003 - 04:34

It was released in mid 96 And yeah it wont be coming out if they delay it 9023902389208023 times.

#31.2 Posted by demorgoron on 19 Dec 2003 - 04:40

thats true

#31.3 Posted by Miran on 19 Dec 2003 - 12:16

Good point. I thought Duke 3D was awesome when it first came out, but it was behind technology-wise even then (games going to true 3D - not just fancy textures). "I ain't afraid of no Quake!" -- Ya, well, they should have been.

Part of the reason I was into Duke 3D was b/c I played Duke Nukem 1 and 2. Although I guess we have to remember that sex sells - especially to 15-20 year olds so who knows.

#31.4 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 19 Dec 2003 - 13:25

I used to love the game. It had a lot of attractive things that were not into quake, even if quake was boastinig the big 3d models and full 3d engine, Duke 3d a few really cool things that stood out.

* Shells ejecting of guns when you fired. Yes no big deal, but I was really into that.
* Voice (Where would the world be without those one liners, I ask you?)
* Bullet marks on walls
* Interaction with the environnement
* MIRRORS! I had dreamed of a FPS with mirrors all my life.
* Jetpack! JETPACK!
* The EASIEST yet BEST BSP based Map Editor EVER. Ken Silverman's BUILD rocks.

#31.5 Posted by nic on 19 Dec 2003 - 16:18

I agree mr_da3m0n. Duke 3d had a lot of things going for it that quake didn't, esspecially the Map Editor. I put together about 4 maps that made it to one of those expansion CDs (who's map didn't?).

Quake won out for its multi-player options, esspecially when quakeworld came out and all the delicious mods. But I remember playing Duke 3d deathmatches on the first map (that was the best one), and setting up all kinds of traps and what have you. Playing "King of the Arcade" was a blast. It really was a fun game.

As for Duke Nuken Forever: they should have never announced it until they were like 3 months from a final. If I were 3d Realms i wouldn't let any news surface about this title, esspecially THIS news. This is just embarressing.

#31.6 Posted by i like chips on 20 Dec 2003 - 00:28

if you ask me, duke invented one-liners

QUOTE

your face; your ass; what's the difference?

Last edited by 18571 on 20 Dec 2003 - 00:34

#31.7 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 20 Dec 2003 - 06:07

HAHAHA!

I was thinking of the EXACT SAME sentence when I typed up "voice" above!

Gotta love his raspy voice!

And I also made a few maps myself that ended up on a expansion CDs... Two on Duke X-Treme and one on.. uh... that map pack that had the cute little selector. Of course those expansions kinda sucked, they had alot of maps like "My House!" and "square_that_blinks_with_boss_in_middle" and an obscene overuse of sector effector 0,25 (or was it 0,22? low tags and hi tags... oh memories...)

#31.8 Posted by i like chips on 20 Dec 2003 - 19:11

makes me wanna play the game now

(1 reply) #32 Posted by niel19_us on 19 Dec 2003 - 04:28

What the hell are they doing even id and havok came up with new engine less time that this sh-t is taking. Just pack your bags and to Computer learning school or something Sh-theads

#32.1 Posted by scyphe on 22 Dec 2003 - 03:03

The frightening thing about the whole thing is that 3d Realms never did their own engine for DNF, they have switched engine three times or more. I just think that there's been so much money poured into the title and development team that they can't call it a day and quit, they need to get some of it back.

What I can't understand is what they've been doing these past 7 years... I've seen recent job-offerings (level editors, texture painters etc.) which makes me suspect they've reconstructed the team and scrapped most parts of the game to start over again since they realized the idea wasn't good enough.

#33 Posted by demorgoron on 19 Dec 2003 - 04:37

imagine it in 2005 with 1997 graphics,hahahaha.whatever its gonna be i dont care!its gonna suck

(2 replies) #34 Posted by McFly on 19 Dec 2003 - 06:43

Too funny...I played the original on a 486/33 with a whopping 48MB of memory and thinking it was the greatest game of all time. Sheez...I also remember screenshots of it when they'd switched to the Unreal engine, but that was, what, 4 years ago?!

#34.1 Posted by ubugmetoo on 20 Dec 2003 - 00:08

You must had tons of cash to have 48mb, it was $100 for 4mb. I played on 8mb

#34.2 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 21 Dec 2003 - 16:38

My Pentium 100 with 32mb ram was TEH BOMB back then, all these people with their puny 486 dx 66mhz...

#35 Posted by tagler on 19 Dec 2003 - 06:47

i remember when u beat the expantion pack for duke it was like look for the new duke nukem game in 1999. that was so funny... i hoenstly dont think this game will be come out and if it does it will suck ass compaired to newer stuff.

honestly... how good can a shooter really be? just about eveything has been done...

#36 Posted by Jasco on 19 Dec 2003 - 07:20

Like we care anymore

(2 replies) #37 Posted by dhitb on 19 Dec 2003 - 07:55

This was bad news the first dozen times. Now it's just pathetic. It registers on the Daikatana of pathetic.

#37.1 Posted by psychoge3k on 20 Dec 2003 - 09:48

QUOTE (#37.0)

It registers on the Daikatana of pathetic.

Leave Romero's baby alone! DNF started about the same time as Diakatana, and still to this day, hasn't been finnished. Keep in mind also that Ion Storm was going through a bad time, at least Diakatana was released, and I play it sometimes still.

But seriously, DNF has been delayed so much, I've basically forgotten about it. I remember seeing a preview of it back in a 1997 PC Format Gold, where it was looking (at the time) on par with other to be released games, like the afore-mentioned Diakatana, Half-Life, SiN, and Prey, and many, many other games that flopped, or were released low key and forgotten about. But seeing a completely different set of DNF screenshots in 2000, and another set in 2001, It seems like they're redoing everything from scratch every year.

Duke Nukem Forever? Duke Nukem Never? You decide.

#37.2 Posted by Chreo on 20 Dec 2003 - 11:49

By this you imply that Daikatana was playable just because it was released... which I beg to differ.
Releasing something unplayable is far worse than delaying and later release something that rocks because I would hesitate to play another game from that studio. It takes years to build a good reputation and only a few studios have that good a reputation and I'd say Blizzard is the no 1 on that list. I can say that I would not hesitate to pick up a game at the store that has a Blizzard sticker on it and know that I get a good gaming experience... but if they ever release game even one 10th as sucky as the Daikatana-poo then that feeling would be gone in an instant.

I'd rather take Duke Nukem Never than a premature Duke Nukem Forever that is crap.

Come to think of it, this it the first time I've ever heard something from "official" sources that states a "releasedate" (or releasequarter). Which is a sign of something being released at long last. But it better 0wn...

#38 Posted by suprfli on 19 Dec 2003 - 08:14

i'm totally devastated. i was hoping for the game to be out by this christmas.

(3 replies) #39 Posted by Smufie on 19 Dec 2003 - 08:22

Does anyone even cares anymore?

#39.1 Posted by ScaryX on 19 Dec 2003 - 08:47

good question here

#39.2 Posted by Chreo on 20 Dec 2003 - 11:52

Aww man does this mean you have gotten too old to "hail to the king, babe"!

#39.3 Posted by i like chips on 20 Dec 2003 - 23:31

i believe the exact wording was "hail to the king baby!"

#40 Posted by Prophecy on 19 Dec 2003 - 09:11

Who cares.. The premise of duke nukem died long ago.. I mean sure we all enjoyed it but now its nothing more than a past memory of one of the greatest games released. However the company itself is no longer respect but more of a laughing stock of the gaming industry.

#41 Posted by Yazoo on 19 Dec 2003 - 09:50

Duke Nukem ??? whats that then?

#42 Posted by lunamonkey on 19 Dec 2003 - 11:27

the character, Duke is such a terrible 90's action hero cliche'. People these days just don't go for the Street fighter look anymore. If it was a movie, I'm sure Van dam (spelling) would play the part.

They should invent a more realistic, everyday character, without a terrible Pun name. Like Norman Fleeman or something.

He was 'cool' once, and never will be again. That is as cool as you could get in the mid 90's. Never mind, you guys might just develop something worth using as a coaster.

#43 Posted by RanCorX2 on 19 Dec 2003 - 11:30

why not just cancel the game...its gonna blow when its done..(probably)

(1 reply) #44 Posted by alkaholikc on 19 Dec 2003 - 12:13

I still have that 99' PC Gamer edition when they announced TF2... Hope DnF comes out before tf2

#44.1 Posted by Frost_311 on 19 Dec 2003 - 14:05

QUOTE (#44.0)

I still have that 99' PC Gamer edition when they announced TF2... Hope DnF comes out before tf2

LOL I remember that one! They had a few early screen shots and talked about their "Detail Mesh" system where if you were up close, models were drawn with more polygons but the further you got, it would drop a few, improving performance and the drop in polys was invisible to the player because of the distance. They talked about voice communication and having a Command, in charge of their team... lol those were the days!

#45 Posted by Jish on 19 Dec 2003 - 14:19

I accepted Duke Nukem Forever as abandonware long ago. In 1999, I would of gone running to the store to buy it. Now, I frankly don't give a hoot. It could be released for Star Trek's Holodeck, but would not have the same impact as a 1999 release would of been. Video games do not have the same impact on me as they used to.

For some strange reason, this whole issue reminds me of the old story "The boy who cried wolf". They announce a date, people come running only to find it isn't there and delayed. When the wolf (Duke Nukem Forever) does appear, who is really going to come running? Not me.

#46 Posted by TopMan on 19 Dec 2003 - 14:21

who cares? I even stopped to visit 3D realms's site. 3D Relams are idiots they act like a child, they want attention!!!

#47 Posted by DrunkenMaster on 19 Dec 2003 - 15:21

Forget trying to explain this to gamers. I hope they have a REALLY hard time trying to explain it to the shareholders. Trying to make a game 'perfect' doesn't work. Max Payne, Quake 3, GTA 3 have all had some issues but they're some of the best selling games ever.

#48 Posted by Chicane-UK on 19 Dec 2003 - 15:26

I just don't understand how they have not been broken up & had the game canned by the shareholders.

If I was pumping money into this turkey of a venture, I wouldn't be too impressed.

What joke - 3D Realms need to get their freakin act together.

#49 Posted by Ficman on 19 Dec 2003 - 15:27

Why don't they just come out and say this isn't going to happen...

ENOUGH ALREADY...

#50 Posted by trefaes on 19 Dec 2003 - 16:54

Don't worry people, it's taking a long time because it's gonna be a breakthrough game where you go back in time and play in 2D with 256 colours. You'll have a selection of two guns which are only distinguishable by an out of place pixel and Duke Nukems running animations will contain a massive 3 frames.

(1 reply) #51 Posted by ~Bull}{Dog~ on 19 Dec 2003 - 17:06

I'm still in love with Duke3d and always will be, as long as they get a game out ONE day that lives up to the original then I will be happy.

Not too bothered about delays as there is plenty to keep me going till then. But it would be nice to see something soon.

#51.1 Posted by DrunkenMaster on 19 Dec 2003 - 18:07

Sure. Its called Duke Nukem: Nuclear Winter. http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/jan98/nwinter.html

Read the last paragraph. It got startling reviews.

(1 reply) #52 Posted by tripleXit on 19 Dec 2003 - 17:20

i couldn't care less, the last duke nukem (manhattan project) was retarted. it was 2d.

#52.1 Posted by xRKx on 20 Dec 2003 - 19:09

I don't suppose you're familiar with the original Duke Nukem or Duke Nukem II then...

#53 Posted by chorpeac on 19 Dec 2003 - 17:45

this is sad...they wait too long and then the gaming engine is too old for hardware. There will never be equality

#54 Posted by xpfreak on 19 Dec 2003 - 18:23

it wil be done in 2015

#55 Posted by Sushubh on 19 Dec 2003 - 18:48

I have waited and I will wait.

#56 Posted by Atom on 19 Dec 2003 - 19:19

errr yeah like we didnt see this comming a mile away

#57 Posted by Demogorgon on 19 Dec 2003 - 20:04

It's been so long now. i really dont even care about it anymore.

#58 Posted by nanackle on 19 Dec 2003 - 20:06

At this point we should all just forget about this game... it has been a *rumor* forever and NOTHING will come of it. I don't know why anybody cares anymore.

#59 Posted by qrich19 on 19 Dec 2003 - 20:15

i agree, i dont think its never going to make it out the door, they should just use an engine and stick with it, if they have to release it at 20 pounds end of the game market i will still buy it, How many ours of interactive entertainment can you get for 20 pounds these days? i played duke 3d to death back in the day, but the world has moved on!

#60 Posted by RedawgTS on 19 Dec 2003 - 23:48

Ya hear that? That's the sound of me not caring any more.

#61 Posted by oo420oo on 19 Dec 2003 - 23:53

DNF will never turn a profit; this game has probably cost developers millions already, 8 years (or so) of work with nothing to show for it. Great job! LOL

#62 Posted by ubugmetoo on 20 Dec 2003 - 00:18

is it out yet?

#63 Posted by i like chips on 20 Dec 2003 - 00:29

haha good one ubugmetoo .....

#64 Posted by Morphie on 20 Dec 2003 - 01:22

Can u say Vaporware.... lol.

It's not like Duke Nukem was the best game ever. Who cares?

#65 Posted by insurektion on 20 Dec 2003 - 04:39

Delayed forever! Oh well. I love it when games liek max payne 2 comeo ut. I didnt even hear about until a week b4 it went gold.

#66 Posted by Mav Phoenix on 20 Dec 2003 - 08:13

w/e

#67 Posted by Trust on 20 Dec 2003 - 14:45

QUOTE

No Duke Nukem Forever 'til 2005?

until DRM be a standard?