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Suit seeks to ban sales of popular video game

malebolgia   on 01 January 2004 - 22:24 · 48 comments & 2944 views

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A lawsuit by Haitian groups that asks for the top-selling video game "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" to be removed from store shelves will be decided in federal court.

Haitian civil rights groups filed the lawsuit because the game instructs players to "kill the Haitians" and awards points for each kill. The suit was filed December 23 in state circuit court in Palm Beach County. Attorneys for Rockstar Games Inc. opted to move the case to federal court, and that motion was granted Tuesday. No hearing dates were immediately set. New York-based Rockstar Games has agreed to remove the offensive line from future versions of the award-winning video that has sold 11 million copies.

But the Haitian organizations, led by the Haitian-American Coalition of Palm Beach County, have also asked for more than $15,000 in damages. The lawsuit takes on heavyweights in the video game industry, including Rockstar Games, its parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc., Sony Computer Entertainment, the Microsoft Corp., and retailers Target, Wal-Mart and Best Buy. The manufacturer of the game, in which an ex-convict is hired to recover stolen drug money in the streets of Miami, has been harshly criticized for its portrayal of Haitians. Earlier this month, about 100 Haitian-Americans demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart Supercenter in nearby Boynton Beach chanting, "Stop Vice City."

News source: CNN


The modest, publicity-shy physicist, now 48 and based in the U.S., is at pains to point out that he did not invent the Internet itself and insists he is "quite an ordinary person." But without his creation -- which spawned billions of web pages used by hundreds of millions of computer users -- there would be no www computer addresses and the Internet might still be the exclusive domain of a handful of computer experts.

Berners-Lee told the UK's Press Association: "I'm very honored, although it still feels strange.

"I feel like quite an ordinary person and so the good news is that it does happen to ordinary people who work on things that happen to work out, like the Web.

"To a certain extent it's an acknowledgement of the profession as well, that it's useful and creditable and not a passing trend.

"There was a time when people felt the Internet was another world, but now people realize it's a tool that we use in this world."

Berners-Lee was born in East Sheen, south west London, in 1955, the eldest child of two mathematicians renowned within the computer industry for their work on Britain's first commercial computer, the Ferranti Mark I.

He studied at the Emanuel School in Wandsworth and went on to read physics at Queen's College, Oxford, where he was banned from using the university's computer when he and a friend were caught hacking. The student's response was to build his own computer, using an old TV set, a Motorola microprocessor and a soldering iron, all funded by his job in a sawmill.

After graduating with a first-class degree in 1976, he spent several years in Dorset, working for Plessey Telecommunications in Poole, southern England, and D.G. Nash Ltd in nearby Ferndown before heading for Switzerland. He wrote the program which would later become the Web for his own private use while working at the European particle physics laboratory, CERN, near Geneva in 1991.

It initially received a luke-warm reception -- one of his superiors wrote it was "vague but exciting" -- but Sir Tim went on to write the first Web browser and Web server, both of which he gave away on the Internet in 1991, and the Web was born.

While other Internet pioneers went on to become multi-millionaires, he insisted that his creation should be free and globally available, and has fought to ensure the Web was never privately owned. He is now head of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Boston.

He married Nancy Carlson, an American software analyst, in 1990, and they have two children.

He was previously awarded an OBE and was hailed by Time magazine as one of the top 20 thinkers of the 20th Century. He said: "It's a great honor. "It's a link to Britain for me, which is nice. Links with Britain are very important to me.

"You always see Buckingham Palace through the railings. It's about as much of a shock to go through the railings as it is to go through the mirror like Alice in Wonderland.

"You always assume that life as you know it stops at the railings of Buckingham Palace."

Berners-Lee said that living in America meant he was unaware of the recent controversy in Britain surrounding the system of awarding honors. (Poet in royal honor protest)

He said: "What's interesting about the British system is the way that modern values of democracy and transparency have been connected with ancient tradition, and attempts to keep that tradition and its roots alive.

"It's a good idea to review the process by which you make decisions but not to change them too dramatically, but incrementally."

Berners-Lee told PA he was notified of the honor a few days ago via the telephone, and not through the Internet or e-mail.

He added that it never occurred to him that his creation could lead to him receiving a knighthood.

He said: "We never really had time to sit back and wonder. So many things could have gone wrong that it might never have taken off, so we just spent all our time explaining how it could work, and persuading people that it would work."

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#1 Jon on 01 Jan 2004 - 22:32
Sad sad people.
(2 replies) #2 blachole on 01 Jan 2004 - 22:43
Get over it...so since the game gives you the ability to shoot a white or black person..should these races press charges to? this is fcuking dumb.
#2.1 gadean on 01 Jan 2004 - 22:58
They forgot to include American Indians in this game. I find it discrimminating that we can kill white and black people but we can't kill Indians. I will file a lawsuit, too.

I also noticed in Vietcong the enemies are Vietnamese. Several of my missions stated me to "kill the enemy". Well, that's just not right. I will file another lawsuit.

Then there's the Haitians... yes, I think we should make a special exception for them - but not for anyone else. This is fair. Until then, let's kill as many Haitians as we can.
#2.2 tHaCuBe on 02 Jan 2004 - 06:06
^^^ agreed
#3 Solarix on 01 Jan 2004 - 22:56
phuck Haitians, theirs plenlty of games out their that kill innocent white people to but do we give a rats ass NO!, why? because were gonna go kill more!
#4 MR_Candyman on 01 Jan 2004 - 23:48
why doesn't anybody ever think of the cubans???
#5 HolgMan on 02 Jan 2004 - 00:03
How long's that game out? They just found that out?

Hmm, or were they so bad at playing, that they recently got to the mission?
(2 replies) #6 DrunkenMaster on 02 Jan 2004 - 00:09
Hasn't the damage to the Haitians already been done? How is suing the company going to do any good? Are they suing for money or simply to take the games off the shelves? Where is the money going to go to -- community organizations or the lawyers?

At best, I think Rockstar could make a patch for the PC version to take the reference of Haitians out.
#6.1 Solarix on 02 Jan 2004 - 05:50
and give them special privalages, hell no!
#6.2 FISKER_Q on 06 Jan 2004 - 04:07
Yup, and edit them out with teletubbies instead.
#7 versiondub on 02 Jan 2004 - 01:32
Look, I think we should all look at this rationally. The cubans REALLY DID need to kill the hatians. This was no sort of racially driven statement. It was simply a statement that was in accordance of the situation. The cubans and you (Tommy Vercetti) are attacking a warehouse. The warehouse is guarded by nothing but hatians. Hence, it is not racist, but ACCURATE to say "Kill the Haitians!"

jokes aside, this is frivolous. The KKK gets away with writing racist things on its website. Why don't they get sued?

There is yet to be any proof that video games ACTUALLY compel people to act violently, and until then, these people have no case.
#8 sodapop on 02 Jan 2004 - 02:06
Why in the hell isn't there a suit against ink people that charge way to darn much?
(2 replies) #9 Valkyre on 02 Jan 2004 - 02:09
But the Haitian organizations, led by the Haitian-American Coalition of Palm Beach County, have also asked for more than $15,000 in damages.

LMAO.

Greedy *******s.
#9.1 tHaCuBe on 02 Jan 2004 - 06:08
if i were rockstar id give them 15k to stfu, 15k isnt that much to a company thats sold over 11 million copies
#9.2 h4x0r b4k3r on 02 Jan 2004 - 15:55
hes saying that they could sue for like millions more. 15,000 bucks really isnt all that alot. well, they do come from places were a penny is like, OMG my life is saved!
#10 Alien_II on 02 Jan 2004 - 02:53
whats more interesting is the "damages" part.. they got brain damage cuz of it or somethin?
#11 ProfessorX on 02 Jan 2004 - 03:15
^^ seizures most prob
(4 replies) #12 obake on 02 Jan 2004 - 05:34
I, honest to God, wish that there were some law that forbade dumbass lawsuits like this. Why, oh why, are people (scratch that, Americans) this ****ing sensitive?

I wonder if there's gonna be a counter-demonstration of VC fans shouting "Kill the Haitians!" outside of the Haitian-American Coalition headquarters.

#12.1 tHaCuBe on 02 Jan 2004 - 06:08
hahah lets all go do that
#12.2 The_Decryptor on 02 Jan 2004 - 14:03
It's not just americans that are so sensitive, in Australia, if you are a cop and arrest an aborigional, expect to get sued for discrimination, even if he bashed someone half to death.
#12.3 kemical on 02 Jan 2004 - 15:27
you're just as ignorant as the haitans(obake)
#12.4 Fanon on 02 Jan 2004 - 15:40
Uh, the entire world is sensitive. It's idiotic, really. Heaven forbid someone gets their feelings hurt. We are a world of wusses.
#13 AnalogRival on 02 Jan 2004 - 05:41
A little LATE in the game, do they all only own Xboxes or something?
#14 matt74441 on 02 Jan 2004 - 06:58
We should ban all WW2 games set in Europe. The thought of killing innocent Nazis just makes me sick.
#15 Maxious on 02 Jan 2004 - 07:09
lol its like one mission in the game. get over it. are construction unions gonna sue cause tommy started a riot? is the french government gonna sue because we know they have top secret microchips? is a neowin member gonna sue me for spoiling two missions?
#16 jmole on 02 Jan 2004 - 07:30
The Hatians must think their people are the only ones in video games that are getting killed. People from countries that are used in World War II games could put up the same stupid fight with courts.
(1 reply) #17 Xab on 02 Jan 2004 - 07:56
Hah what a waste of time. Any sensible federal judge will throw this crap out the window and charge the United Haitian Assocition of Jackasses court costs.
#17.1 Fanon on 02 Jan 2004 - 15:47
We haven't seen many sensible federal judges in the past few years. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a ruling in favor of the Haitians.
(1 reply) #18 altermind on 02 Jan 2004 - 08:52
whatever.... I don't even listen to what the game says... I just like driving around.....
#18.1 |CiN|FuL on 02 Jan 2004 - 11:31
same here man...same here
#19 ripgut on 02 Jan 2004 - 09:49
been there read this and moving on to other news...
#20 csabo2 on 02 Jan 2004 - 16:37
where are the mexicans ?!?!? i went to the mcdonalds DIDNT SEE ONE.. im getting ol ' jonny to represent me !.
(1 reply) #21 mikey on 02 Jan 2004 - 17:27
this artical is my fav.

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Rockstar to release a new version of their blockbusting GTA3 follow-up after criticism, complaints and the threat of a lawsuit.

Will the controversy surrounding Vice City ever end? As if not content with everything that has been said and written about the game since it first dominated the sales charts, the American media has driven Take Two to editing all future copies of the title.

This time there were claims that the game incited racial violence by asking the player to 'Kill all the Haitians' in one mission. Not any old Haitians, some evil drug-dealing Haitians. It could have been any racial group - the fact that they happened to be from Haiti is not important here.

Undeterred by the fact that they were reaching new levels of mass stupidity by taking the whole thing entirely out of context, Haitian-American groups got New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg to threaten Take Two with legal action of they didn't remedy the situation. To their eternal credit, Take Two resisted the urge to stick two fingers up at the whole situation, pointed out that it was rated 'M' and intended for actual grown-up people. They then apologised for any anguish caused and promised to edit all future copies of the game.

So look out for the new version of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City soon, where we're sure you'll enjoy attempting the mission 'Kill all the Generic Evil Bad Guys Who Bare No Resemblance to any Racial Group or Stereotype.' Sounds fun.
#21.1 nemesis1 on 04 Jan 2004 - 14:59
does that mean all the bad guys will be green?
and bleed non-red like, say, green?

"coming up next! GTA: Zombie City"

I can see the zombies crying already
#22 fjv on 02 Jan 2004 - 17:52
LOL... 15k???
omg... that will be end of all those companies!!!





fjv
#23 JadeWolf324 on 02 Jan 2004 - 17:56
NOOOOO NOT POPULAR GAME!!!!! WHY MUST THE WORLD BE SO CRUEL TO TAKE AWAY POPULAR GAME!!!!
#24 dougkinzinger on 02 Jan 2004 - 18:11
KILL ALL THE HATIANS!

It's the best line in the game (albeit, I have no desire to actually kill any Hatians....)
#25 Fredde87 on 02 Jan 2004 - 18:41
They are suing them because they are afraid that people will go killing all Haitian people.. I have finished the game and didnt even notice that they said that.. They are just letting everyone else who havnt played the game know what they say in the game.. They are just damaging themself..
#26 AGilley007 on 02 Jan 2004 - 20:03
i just finished the game two two days ago and i personally think that their is no reason to be suing, bcecause when you get a wanted star you kill the police and they are white so why aren't white people suing because of that? So they just need to let it go!
#27 cq107 on 02 Jan 2004 - 20:55
This is another example where people believe that video games influence reality... it just shows that they don't understand a video game has (should have) NO RELEVENT connection in the real world. Its people like this who deserve to be the butt of jokes. Its just a freaking GAME
#28 LordHatrus on 02 Jan 2004 - 21:24
what LEGALLY is wrong with saying, 'GHEE, HIATIANS SUXORS!!!'
Yes, its racist, but thats not a crime punishable by law, to SAY something racist.
I mean, if i said, no one let the hiatians in this club, that would be a crime. But just saying something??? nooooo
#29 Phil Gates on 02 Jan 2004 - 22:16
KILL DE HATIANS!!!!


oh noes, dont take me off the shelves
#30 qoa on 04 Jan 2004 - 11:34
It wasn't really racists in the context of the game, and it's not like they didn't try to steal all of the money at that drug deal or whatever it was in the alley. They deserved it, I'm going to go kill some hatians right now.
#31 rekka on 04 Jan 2004 - 20:06
More free publicity for Take 2 interactive. Lovely
#32 Wam7 on 05 Jan 2004 - 08:41
I've not too long finished the game and I must admit I woke in the middle of the night and for a split second I had a burning desire to catch a British Airways 737 to Miami, purchase an Uzi and massacre anyone with a Hatian passport. These Hatians maybe on to something....
#33 astrokat on 05 Jan 2004 - 17:06
I think a lot of you are being very insensitive. The statement is sort of offensive, and I think the company should be held responsible for their poor judgement. Its not that they are afraid that people are going to start going out killing hatians, but it puts a negative reflection on that particular race. However, I do not necessarily think the group should be awarded money, but perhaps an appology, or a game patch that removes the offending statement. #5, they probably didn't just find out, these things take time before going public.
#34 Hills420 on 05 Jan 2004 - 17:27
people will do anything for their 15 minutes of fame.
#35 Sn1p3t on 06 Jan 2004 - 05:31
This is going to fall through. Even if Take 2 did settle (which I hope they don't), it's only going to spark even more lawsuits against various publishers for small little things like this.

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