Arrests made in relation to Half-Life 2 Theft
Posted by malebolgia on 10 June 2004 - 20:08 · 60 comments & 5038 views
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#1 Posted by INFERNO2k on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:11
- Old news.
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#1.1 Posted by riahc3 on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:30
QUOTE (#1.0) Old news.
If its old news why do you read it or even post a comment??? Im pretty sure you didnt know it and are just posting to appear "cool" and like you know everything.
anyways
Im glad they cyber-criminals were caught. Should be given the death penalty for this
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#1.2 Posted by shao on 11 Jun 2004 - 08:27
- exactly why do they deserve the death penalty for this? At the very least it gave valve a flimsy excuse for not releasing the game when they initially said they would - you know, unlike every other game developer that just delays the game because it's not finished (eg, id @ doom3!). I dunno who they were kidding in the first place anyway.
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#2 Posted by altermind on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:24
- new to me........ hope the bloody game comes out soon.....
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#3 Posted by
SMeK on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:27
- "nerds rule" wasnt it nerds that hacked and stole the code in the first place ?

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#3.1 Posted by
malebolgia on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:38
- Yes, but in the end it was other nerds that helped to catch the previous nerds.
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#4 Posted by Varsity on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:30
- I thought there was only one person arrested, about 2 weeks ago and a LONG time after the actual leak.
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#5 Posted by O'Connor's a Nub on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:31
- Saw it on Gamespot two weeks ago.
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#5.3 Posted by divertom15 on 11 Jun 2004 - 07:09
- wow your thoughts and your username add up buddy
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#6 Posted by AfmomasTER on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:33
- to bad it was all a conspiracy and they were no where near done and now it looks like poo compared to a lot of big named games
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#6.1 Posted by Radium on 11 Jun 2004 - 13:53
- Doom III have always looked better... Half-Life 2 doesn't have a chance when it comes to graphics.
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#6.2 Posted by AfroTrance on 11 Jun 2004 - 14:00
- Graphics make a good engine not a good game.
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#6.3 Posted by chacho on 11 Jun 2004 - 19:57
QUOTE (#6.2) Graphics make a good engine not a good game.
first of all, lets not start graphics v. gameplay flamewar
secondly, what are you talking about?? neither graphics nor a "good game" make a "good engine"...the "engine" that is commonly talked about in games is what generates the graphics. you dont know what you are talking about.
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#7 Posted by 56kmanV3 on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:37
- Quote "Old news."
Wow todays the 10th when arrests happerned and u knew ages ago ? Can i have a go in ya time machine plz.
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#7.1 Posted by chacho on 11 Jun 2004 - 01:19
- ok, thats the third damn "old news" comment so far. CUT IT! NO ONE CARES WHEN YOU LEARNED ABOUT IT, WE DONT KNOW YET.
edit: way to change your post from an old news complaint to that to make my post look like an uncalled-for troll...
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#7.2 Posted by NeoTrunks on 11 Jun 2004 - 03:50
- He's basically asking how could it be old news if the arrests were made today.
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#8 Posted by Varsity on 10 Jun 2004 - 20:43
- Nope, I'm wrong. It's news.
http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?...895583-79372100
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#9 Posted by Raven on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:04
- Just because it's 'old news' to you doesn't mean it's old news to me. I appreciated Neowin bringing this to my attention. We can't visit every website with news.
Thanks Neowin!
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#10 Posted by C64afx on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:13
- Saying 'old news' is just ****ing annoying...
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#11 Posted by EmuZombie on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:24
- To everyone who said this is old news: How could it be old news if IT JUST HAPPENED?
It's so funny how many people here on neowin fit my list of stereotypes......
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#11.1 Posted by [Rob.Baker] on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:33
- I remember reading an article on a guy who's computer was taken away by the police...
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#12 Posted by python134r on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:39
- No, the thefts are"old news". The arrests are not. "The wheels of justice grind very slow but very fine".
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#13 Posted by yert* on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:46
- I thought the arrests were made weeks/months ago
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#14 Posted by Surr3al on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:47
- New to me, GG valve, GG.
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#15 Posted by Vaichilds on 10 Jun 2004 - 21:57
- Axl G. is the person to whom you all are referring too. He is known as "Ago" online and the person responsible for the making of
HATBOT or AGOABOT
He was arrested in Germany maybe 1-2 weeks(And not due to HL2 Source Leak!!) prior to the arrest of NetSky/Sasser writer was busted. I have a log of an IRC conv. taken about 4 weeks ago off the web that pertains to the investigation of AGO being the guy who is SOLEY responsible for the theft of the source code. He then handed the code off to others to compile and then release.
Gabe Newell's FTP to $/HL2/release/dev which was controlled by www.tangis.com but linked to within the Valve network. They didn't control this as much as they should have.
passwords for that day:
GABE NEWELL
USERNAME: gaben
PASSWORD: ElAhraira2002
Username: ftpuser
Password: ftpuser1
Username: gareth
Password: Password1
Here is Ago's netmask that day
frb9-d9bb4a51.pool.mediaWays.net
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#16 Posted by Palmeiro on 10 Jun 2004 - 22:21
QUOTE Oh yeah nerds rule!
I prefer GEEK,
thank you very much!
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#17 Posted by perochan on 10 Jun 2004 - 23:56
- lol, ill bet those who r involved wanted the source codes too.
probably one of the reason to help out.
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#18 Posted by l77Il7H on 11 Jun 2004 - 03:06
- aww that's so sad! lord have mercy on those criminal. they were only trying to show us the light of valve's deception.
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#19 Posted by MaceX on 11 Jun 2004 - 03:20
- I hope he is not guilty.
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#20 Posted by obake on 11 Jun 2004 - 04:27
- Awesome. Glad they got caught.
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#21 Posted by Groovedude on 11 Jun 2004 - 08:13
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DoH
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#22 Posted by mrdan1286 on 11 Jun 2004 - 08:24
- http://www.gtwy.net/hl2/another_log.txt
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#23 Posted by Jasco on 11 Jun 2004 - 08:56
- The hackers that did this rocked, they showed the true face of Valve and their lies.
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#24 Posted by elliot on 11 Jun 2004 - 10:33
- This is not old news.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3797167.stm
Look at the date, Friday 11th June 2004, so stfu
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#25 Posted by OfF3nSiV3 on 11 Jun 2004 - 11:30
- it happened today or yesterday..whomever says it's old news is wrong and should read news sites more often
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#26 Posted by Gary_Player on 11 Jun 2004 - 12:47
- Uh Oh
You'd think someone smart enough to hack in and steal it would be smart enough to cover their tracks a little better
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#27 Posted by sheer on 11 Jun 2004 - 13:49
- I'm not sure it ever happened - you're telling me an outside source was able to download about a gig of data from Valve unnoticed?
Valve, knowing that they weren't gonna hit their shipping date, leaked enough to keep the fanboys happy and keep the wow factor going then attributed the leak to them being hacked.
And the entire gaming community got together to catch the hackers? yeah right. So who are those gaming cyber-sleuths? Why have we heard nothing about this criminal cyber-chase that's been going on? -
#27.1 Posted by Magallanes on 11 Jun 2004 - 15:03
QUOTE (#27.0) And the entire gaming community got together to catch the hackers? yeah right. So who are those gaming cyber-sleuths? Why have we heard nothing about this criminal cyber-chase that's been going on?
photo of cyber-cops!
Truly, they "hound" the hackers... yeah sure!.
A good hackers can be untraceable at all, hack some system, then use for hack another system, finally delete all trace (log for example) and you have a 99.9999% of protection. A buch of nerds can made nothing about it. Even more, to obtain some information, you need to contact to many ISP and they are tough for give some information (and the isp's logs can be delete in the time).
Maybe, they found a guy that "share" the HL2 source or a guy with a big-mouth that say "hey kids, i stole the hl2 code.."
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#28 Posted by 905punk on 11 Jun 2004 - 14:29
- whoever made this log -> http://www.gtwy.net/hl2/another_log.txt
has pissed off some very powerfull people, even with Ago out of action, I knew Ago a little and he was definately not one to be ****ed with. Between Z-Crew and FBK (not to say that everyone gets along in this scene....but if your identified as a nark your gonna get flanked from all sides.) im sure everyone will get 0wn3d who supplies info on this.
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#29 Posted by SW5 on 11 Jun 2004 - 16:12
- http://www.gtwy.net/hl2/another_log.txt is NOT Real.
It was faked by somone unknown.
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#30 Posted by paulhaskew on 11 Jun 2004 - 16:13
- when the entire net is after you good luck hiding... no matter how good you are, someone is better...
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#31 Posted by slimshady89 on 11 Jun 2004 - 19:57
- what if I hack from say a public wi fi hot spot with my old stolen laptop... get hte code remove hte hdd from my STOLEN laptop and break hte laptop... is there any chance they can catch me now?
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#32 Posted by Lingwo on 11 Jun 2004 - 22:45
- Code was stolen from valve?
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#33 Posted by EugeneE3RD on 15 Jun 2004 - 10:48
- I'm glad that people involved with the break-in/stealing of Half-Life 2 source code are caught. The people who did this should be ashamed of themselves. Not only did they violate the law, they also caused a major delay in this game being released. If it wasn't for the jerks who stole the source code, the game would have probably been released by now.
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Arrests have been made in several countries related to the break-in to Valve's network, theft of the Half-Life 2 source code, and release of the source code on the Internet. "Within a few days of the announcement of the break-in, the online gaming community had tracked down those involved," said Gabe Newell, Valve's CEO. "It was extraordinary to watch how quickly and how cleverly gamers were able to unravel what are traditionally unsolvable problems for law enforcement related to this kind of cyber-crime."
Thousands of tips were received related to the criminal activities, with a core group of people who were able to analyze and backtrack from these clues. Subsequent to these individuals being identified, Valve has been working with various national authorities to prepare cases against those involved, leading to these arrests.
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