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Bill Gates to Announce XBox 2 In January?

Unknown   on 18 October 2004 - 15:59 · 41 comments & 3550 views

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The Consumer Electronics Show has confirmed that Microsoft chairman Bill Gates is set to give a pre-show keynote speech in Las Vegas on January 5th next year - with a public announcement of Xbox 2 widely expected.

Gates will speak on Wednesday, January 5th at 6.30pm PST, the night before the opening of the CES event - which is the largest trade show of any description in North America, and is expected to attract 130,000 professionals from 110 countries over its three-day span. The Xbox 2 announcement, which was originally rumoured to be planned for the Game Developer's Conference earlier this year, is now hotly tipped to feature in Gates' keynote, after the GDC announcement turned out to be regarding Microsoft's XNA development platform.

Many of Microsoft's key game development partners already have early versions of Xbox 2 development hardware, with the platform - codenamed Xenon - thought to be based on a multi-processor design using IBM's Power5 CPU architecture and ATI's next-generation Radeon graphics unit.

News source: GamesIndustry.biz


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#1 spiegel on 18 Oct 2004 - 16:05
well wether he announces it or not we still have to wait for it to come out

i bet you its already done he has one in his house but he doesnt want to tell anyone about it
(8 replies) #2 b0m8er on 18 Oct 2004 - 16:07
If that's true Microsoft will beat the carp out of competitiors - death to Sony PlayStation .

I wan't this baby
#2.1 Keito on 18 Oct 2004 - 16:19
I don't think so. Just watch what happened to the PS2 now;
It was first, ruled for a while. Then the Xbox came, got better and better and surpassed it because of better hardware mainly (nicer graphics, thus more people buying it. Andhalf the games are cross-platform so..)

I think the same will happen to the Xbox2 when it comes out... It'll get surpassed by a console with better hardware after a while.
#2.2 perochan on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:08
1st one to comes out doesnt mean it will take over the whole console war.
#2.3 SVT on 18 Oct 2004 - 18:20
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If that's true Microsoft will beat the carp out of competitiors - death to Sony PlayStation


Yea, just like the TG-16 beat the carp out of the Genesis. And just like the Atari jaguar beat the carp out of the PS1. And just like the Dreamcast beat the carp out of the PS2.
#2.4 SVT on 18 Oct 2004 - 18:25
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Just watch what happened to the PS2 now; It was first,


sorry, n00b, but the Dreamcast was first this generation.

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Then the Xbox came, got better and better and surpassed it


Surpassed it in what? HW sales? sorry, your wrong there. Game sales? Sorry, wrong again. Sales in $? Sorry, your wrong again. HW quality? Sorry, the xbox has the biggest HW failure rate this generation.

It looks like Keito really embarrassed him/herself with that post.
#2.5 MegaManXcalibur on 18 Oct 2004 - 19:32
Well since SVT already pointed out that the PS2 blew the Xbox away in almost every category I get to make this post that much shorter.

Anyhow the Xbox has another hit against it that neither Sony nor Nintendo do. That would be it hasn't been heavily accepted world wide, the Xbox has only really sold well in America. I'm not 100% sure about Europe but I know the sales for the Xbox in Japan were far below what Microsoft expected, it just didn't take off there. And like it or not that's a large section of the gaming market, a market where Nintendo and Sony have done very well in (as well as doing well in American and Europe).

The Xbox 2 will never be number one unless it can take a large section of the gaming market in every region not just the United States.
#2.6 macrosslover on 18 Oct 2004 - 21:56
actually Xbox has been more accepted worldwide in terms of overall installed base and sales than Nintendo. Xbox is #2 in Europe, the States, and OZ. it just sucks in the Asian Countries. it has managed to sell over 1 million consoles in those areas.

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The Xbox 2 will never be number one unless it can take a large section of the gaming market in every region not just the United States.


the same can be said for Nintendo as well. Nintendo is last in every region except Asia and maybe Canada, i'm not sure there. although ps2 does a good job of destroying both of them combined, MS has managed to do pretty well in beating Nintendo at their own game.
#2.7 SecretAgentMan on 19 Oct 2004 - 02:47
"HW quality? Sorry, the xbox has the biggest HW failure rate this generation."

SVC obviously has no clue. Sony is the worst when it comes to hardware failure with consoles.
#2.8 MegaManXcalibur on 19 Oct 2004 - 04:33
I don't know about everybody else but my PS2 has worked flawlessly since I bought it (about a year after it was introduced). On the other hand my Xbox has been throwing my disc read errors since they day I bought it (I usually have to insert and eject the disk about 10 to 15 times before it recognizes it). So I have to say the Xbox's hardware hasn't impressed me in any ways.
(7 replies) #3 rIaHc3 on 18 Oct 2004 - 16:43
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multi-processor design using IBM's Power5 CPU architecture


Didnt Gamecube also use a IBM CPU??? Cuz if so............my god help us
#3.1 ScottKin on 18 Oct 2004 - 16:53
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Didnt Gamecube also use a IBM CPU??? Cuz if so............my god help us


Wow - The GameCube is how many years old now?

Some info for you:

"Of particular note, IBM brags that each Power5 chip can be split up to handle up to 10 logical partitions. This gives customers a way to run more workloads on a single box. In addition, the Power5 chips can churn through more software threads via IBM's multi-threading technology, which was not available on the older Unix boxes. Customers can run AIX, Linux or i5/0S on any of the systems announced today.

While these new features put more pressure on Sun and HP, they also make IBM's Unix machines more competitive against its own mainframe boxes. The 64-processor i5-595 and p5-595 deliver many mainframe-like features but fall a bit more in the "open systems" category, meaning customers can gain price/performance advantages and be less dependent on very proprietary mainframe tools.

The 590 will be offered with a 1.65GHz version of the Power5 chip, while the 595 can ship with either 1.65GHz or 1.90GHz processors."

The *new* Power5 CPU to be used in the XB2 is a High-end Workstation/Server CPU.

Try to be more informed next time.

--ScottKin
#3.2 Zepolcire on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:02
Gamecube's short comings was due to a lack of developer interest and popularity with all generations. It tended to focus on mostly the younger audience with an occasional game for the teens and up. What they didnt realize is that the later group had the money to buy games, while the kiddies don't and parents are more reluctant to spend money on these games. It had nothing to do with the hardware.
#3.3 rIaHc3 on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:34
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Wow - The GameCube is how many years old now?

Some info for you:

"Of particular note, IBM brags that each Power5 chip can be split up to handle up to 10 logical partitions. This gives customers a way to run more workloads on a single box. In addition, the Power5 chips can churn through more software threads via IBM's multi-threading technology, which was not available on the older Unix boxes. Customers can run AIX, Linux or i5/0S on any of the systems announced today.

While these new features put more pressure on Sun and HP, they also make IBM's Unix machines more competitive against its own mainframe boxes. The 64-processor i5-595 and p5-595 deliver many mainframe-like features but fall a bit more in the "open systems" category, meaning customers can gain price/performance advantages and be less dependent on very proprietary mainframe tools.

The 590 will be offered with a 1.65GHz version of the Power5 chip, while the 595 can ship with either 1.65GHz or 1.90GHz processors."

The *new* Power5 CPU to be used in the XB2 is a High-end Workstation/Server CPU.

Try to be more informed next time.

--ScottKin


Thanks for your info but im saying this because the Gamecube sucked d*ck and everyone knows it. Ive experinced it and trust me PS2 and Xbox are alot better in all aspects. And a server chip? In case you didnt know server chips are designed for server activities not gaming so if this is the case then the Xbox will suffer because the CPU wont be designed for it.

And the attitude was something extra that shouldnt have been added. Your not Mr.Know-It-All and all of us makes mistakes thank you very much....


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Gamecube's short comings was due to a lack of developer interest and popularity with all generations. It tended to focus on mostly the younger audience with an occasional game for the teens and up. What they didnt realize is that the later group had the money to buy games, while the kiddies don't and parents are more reluctant to spend money on these games. It had nothing to do with the hardware.


Altho your first point is true the bold isnt. GC's hardware sucked compared to Xbox and PS2 (Its didnt even come out "online" out-of-the-bo. Period. But ignoring that point, Nintendo made the mistake of not taking in other more mature games also like you pointed out. So this was indeed another problem.
#3.4 koocha on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:47
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Altho your first point is true the bold isnt. GC's hardware sucked compared to Xbox and PS2 (Its didnt even come out "online" out-of-the-bo. Period. But ignoring that point, Nintendo made the mistake of not taking in other more mature games also like you pointed out. So this was indeed another problem.


I thought you had to buy a modem for the PS2 to go online. Not to mention a hard drive
#3.5 RangerLG on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:49
The Cube was targeted at a different audience. Lower pricing and more kid friendly games, which for me is a blessing as I have two small children. From this respect, the Cube is successful. Kids don't care about online, graphic quality, or surround sound. They just want to play. Nintendo saw that they were late to the game, so they went another direction.
#3.6 rIaHc3 on 18 Oct 2004 - 18:25
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I thought you had to buy a modem for the PS2 to go online. Not to mention a hard drive


Yes you had to buy a modem at first. A hard drive is not required to go online.
#3.7 kairon on 18 Oct 2004 - 21:25
Don't bothering arguing Scott, sometimes people are just to ignorant to open their eyes and see the truth. Some of those things he said almost made me laugh out loud at how dumb he is.
(2 replies) #4 Tikimotel on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:39
I just hope it is backward compatible with Xbox1, or else they'll kill of Halo2 sales...
#4.1 RangerLG on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:44
If it does not have a hard drive, I don't see how it could be compatible with Xbox games.
#4.2 jagedEdge on 19 Oct 2004 - 00:14
Was it completely confirmed that it didn't have a hard drive?
#5 KXH on 18 Oct 2004 - 17:58
(6 replies) #6 SVT on 18 Oct 2004 - 18:17
MS releases xbox2...





...and it's still not as good as the Dreamcast.
#6.1 Vannos on 18 Oct 2004 - 18:48
Wow, your insight is amazing...
#6.2 Colonel_Angus on 18 Oct 2004 - 20:26
The reason the xBox is such a failure is because of the lack of good software. Sega, Nintendo, and Square/Enix are still kings when it comes to the games. The xbox never had any games as inventative and fun as Chu Chu Rocket or Super Smash Brothers, or as deep as Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia.

The games released for the xbox thus far are a joke. Halo? Same room over and over. Fable? Yea, an RPG that can be completed in 10 hours. If you can complete a game in 10 hours, I don't think it qualifies as an RPG.

It is Sad really, the xBox could have been so much more. It really did have potential, It just became a failure because of no exclusive good games. Oh well, the other 3 current gen systems (Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2) delivered
#6.3 ViciousX on 18 Oct 2004 - 21:59
Failure? Virtually the only thing that can classify a console as a failure are sales. The only place where Xbox is a failure is Japan, and that's no secret (its a huge failure in Japan, but I don't think anyone expected anything more).
Just because you don't like the mainstream titles a console brings doesn't mean its a failure; it means that's not your console of choice, or failed to deliver to you. The Xbox has "deep" and "inventative" titles just as any other console. They may not be huge hits but they're there.
#6.4 macrosslover on 18 Oct 2004 - 22:10
exactly, xbox has plenty of good games. fable taking only 10 hours to complete? the same can be said about Zelda, but i don't see people complaining about that. super smash brotehrs isn't exactly innovative, it's just all of Nintendo's mascots in 1 game. wow

you name two games and say omg the system sucks. no, everybody considers those games excellent. there's halo, soon to be halo 2, kotor 1 and 2, morrowind (which has more depth than Final Fantasy could ever hope to achieve), ninja gaiden, project gotham, etc...i could go on and on, but i'm only listing the games i've purchased.
#6.5 jagedEdge on 19 Oct 2004 - 00:17
Thank you ViciousX and macrosslover.

And really, people have to shut up about Halo being repetitive. Bungie admits it, and they also say Halo 2 is everything they wanted Halo to really be. They just had to rush Halo out the door.
#6.6 SecretAgentMan on 19 Oct 2004 - 03:35
Well, I see three guys who know what they are talking about here. ViciousX, macrosslover and jagedEdge.
(1 reply) #7 stezo2k on 18 Oct 2004 - 20:43
very nice, tis my birthday in jan
#7.1 kairon on 18 Oct 2004 - 21:25
why? it still wont be out in january.
(1 reply) #8 TGD on 18 Oct 2004 - 22:07
I think it is way too early to end this generation. Releasing the X-Box 2 before 2006 is just unnecessary. The existing hardware is still good enough for games, and Microsoft risk being like the Dreamcast by releasing it now and being eclipsed later. When the PS3 comes out, why would a casual gamer buy an X-Box 2? The PS3 is newer, and therefore better, in their eyes.
#8.1 macrosslover on 18 Oct 2004 - 22:13
i agree it's too early, that's why i don't think that MS is releasing the system in 2005. i think it's just a whole bunch of video game press that's so desperate to cover something that they are trumping up the rumors of xbox 2. the fact that companies already have prelimanary dev kits means nothing as most first-generation software takes at least 2 years to complete. i think MS is just making sure they have a enough software to launch the system with in the States, Europe, and Japan.
(3 replies) #9 chick3n on 18 Oct 2004 - 22:52
Xbox 2 > Xbox > GameCube > * > PS2
fags.
#9.1 jagedEdge on 19 Oct 2004 - 00:20
You would sound more intelligent if you hadn't put fags in there. While yes, I kinda agree with your list. I would put it more in this order though: Xbox > Dreamcast > PS2 > Gamecube. Don't put any more consoles into it, because they're either older or newer.
#9.2 ubugmetoo on 19 Oct 2004 - 00:35
XBOX 2 > Modded XBOX > XBOX > PS2 > *
#9.3 SVT on 19 Oct 2004 - 20:32
Dreamcast > *
#10 nifu on 19 Oct 2004 - 05:04
I just got an XBOX !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spread the word, down with XBOX2!!!!!!!!!!! (Or at least postpone it)
(1 reply) #11 gaurav on 19 Oct 2004 - 14:12
Yeah XBox 2 will rock, but then so will come PlayStation 3 to keep up with the competition!

and i dont have any such things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#11.1 griever69 on 21 Oct 2004 - 13:49
playstaion suck xbox rules
#12 gohankid77 on 22 Oct 2004 - 22:42
I have an XBOX, and am quite disappointed in the titles for the console. Why couldn't I have gotten a PS2 instead? *sigh* I have played cross-platform games for both consoles and have not noticed any difference in picture quality, so I don't see the big deal. I'd rather have a PS2 than an XBOX because of the titles, not to mention the fact that you don't need any extra equipment to play DVDs on the PS2 whereas you DO need extra equipment for the XBOX.

Overall Opinion: PlayStation(2) is better and XBOX could use some improvement

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