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Slimy   on 02 July 2007 - 20:08 · 66 comments & 18770 views

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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has topped a poll of readers of Edge magazine and industry experts to find the top 100 games of all time. The 10-year-old videogame for the Nintendo 64 games console helped usher in a new era of 3D gaming. It is also one of only five games ever to receive a 10 out of 10 review score from Edge magazine. Five of the top 10 titles were made only for Nintendo machines, including Super Mario 64, in third spot. The full list of 100 titles has been compiled for a special edition of Edge magazine. Tony Mott, editor-in-chief of Edge, said: "If you were new to video games and were going to go out and buy 100 games to make an instant collection, then these would be the games to buy."

He added: "Ocarina of Time is nearly 10 years old, but its position at the top slot in Edge's 100 Best Videogames shows that great game design does not age. "In visual terms, it obviously cannot compete with today's Xbox 360 and PS3 productions, but, as with many classics, its appeal is about so much more than its appearance." Only one PC game makes the top 10 - classic first person shooter Half Life 2. Microsoft's Xbox also has only one representative in the elite list - with Halo: Combat Evolved at number seven. Only five games for the next generation of consoles have made the top 100 - Pro Evolution Soccer 6, at number 15, Oblivion, at number 19, Virtua Fighter 5, in 38th spot, Virtua Tennis 3 at number 80, and Crackdown at 100.

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(8 replies) #1 spacer on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:12
The fact that Super Mario 64 made #3 and Half-Life isn't even close to the top 10 means this entire list is invalid.

And FFXII is #8? Give me a break.
#1.1 Pippin666 on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:31
Quote - (spacer said @ #1)
The fact that Super Mario 64 made #3 and Half-Life isn't even close to the top 10 means this entire list is invalid.

And FFXII is #8? Give me a break.
Myself I think that's why the list accurate. HL have the worse last level of all time.

Pip'
#1.2 martskre on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:36
Quote - (spacer said @ #1)
The fact that Super Mario 64 made #3 and Half-Life isn't even close to the top 10 means this entire list is invalid.

Well, true, but I still think Ocarina of Time is worthy of being named greatest ever.
#1.3 GreyWolfSC on 02 Jul 2007 - 22:12
Quote - (spacer said @ #1)
The fact that Super Mario 64 made #3 and Half-Life isn't even close to the top 10 means this entire list is invalid.

And FFXII is #8? Give me a break.


FFXII and Half-Life weren't innovators. I dispute your FF claim [], and while Half-Life was an EXCELLENT game, it wasn't a leap in gaming.
#1.4 Sn4k36 on 03 Jul 2007 - 05:43
All FF games above FFIII for the snes shouldn't even be on the list at all... Crappy ass stories compared to that of FFIII for snes...
#1.5 quintesse on 03 Jul 2007 - 07:23
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and while Half-Life was an EXCELLENT game, it wasn't a leap in gaming.


Well, I'm not sure if the list contains many "leaps in gaming" to be honest, but HL was quite innovative IMO because it was the first FPS with a cinematic story-line that actually worked. Before HL mosts FPS were just running around killing monsters and while HL basically is the same it added a lot more to it.

Anyway, with Halo at #7 it obvious the whole list sucks.
#1.6 QuarterSwede on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:49
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Quote - (GreyWolfSC said @ #1.3)
and while Half-Life was an EXCELLENT game, it wasn't a leap in gaming.


Well, I'm not sure if the list contains many "leaps in gaming" to be honest, but HL was quite innovative IMO because it was the first FPS with a cinematic story-line that actually worked. Before HL mosts FPS were just running around killing monsters and while HL basically is the same it added a lot more to it.

Anyway, with Halo at #7 it obvious the whole list sucks.

I agree. My favorite Zelda game was A Link to the Past (although I agree that most people think OoT is better). Games don't have to be innovative to be a great title. They're probably more likely to be successful because it's a fresh take but innovation doesn't guarantee it'll be successful.


#1.7 WICKO on 03 Jul 2007 - 21:29
What happened to goldeneye?
#1.8 Aukon07 on 05 Jul 2007 - 04:22
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What happened to goldeneye?

Good question.
#2 Nose Nuggets on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:34
the ending of the two half life games is simply to keep you guessing. you cant have a proper conclusion to a story that has not ended yet, can you.

regardless, how the game ends shouldnt change the fact that both Half Life games have probably been the most cutting edge games of their time, and still deliver a more compelling story then any other FPS has yet to offer.
#3 Xero on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:35
that zelda game ruled tho
(3 replies) #4 OblivionStalker on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:53
Oblivion has already been named best game ever by PC World.
#4.1 Croquant on 03 Jul 2007 - 01:20
That's because it was boring.
#4.2 Eis on 03 Jul 2007 - 02:17
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That's because it was boring.

True, after beating it once you don't really get very pumped up about ever playing it again. I can't even bring myself to get the add-on's because I'm so sick of looking at my character and hearing the same stupid villagers voices.
#4.3 The Tjalian on 03 Jul 2007 - 14:02
That's because Zelda isn't on the PC.
(1 reply) #5 OblivionStalker on 02 Jul 2007 - 20:53
Resident Evil 4 second? Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The list just simply is not true.
#5.1 cooljerk_dv on 02 Jul 2007 - 23:28
exactly . . what did that game bring that gave it the second spot?

however i do think Zelda Oot deserves the top spot . .

#6 kak on 02 Jul 2007 - 21:21
No list will ever be perfect. Its just like trying to name the best bands, movies, anything, Different personal opinions and tastes will void any list.
(4 replies) #7 Xantheus on 02 Jul 2007 - 22:19
Why have Final Fantasy 12 in 8th, where the hell did FF7 go?
#7.1 PermaSt0ne on 03 Jul 2007 - 00:22
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Why have Final Fantasy 12 in 8th, where the hell did FF7 go?


seriously. they better have put an "x" instead of a "v" by mistake.....

FF7 is the best RPG ever made (havn't tried oblivion yet though). and just one of the best games in general ever as well. it was revolutionary as well. it's a disgrace to not have it up there
#7.2 CRIKEY on 03 Jul 2007 - 11:27
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FF7 is the best RPG ever made (havn't tried oblivion yet though). and just one of the best games in general ever as well. it was revolutionary as well. it's a disgrace to not have it up there


ff7 is one of the most overrated games ever it wasnt revolutionary at all except for the "pretty graphics" it was a good game though.
#7.3 QuarterSwede on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:54
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FF7 is the best RPG ever made (havn't tried oblivion yet though). and just one of the best games in general ever as well. it was revolutionary as well. it's a disgrace to not have it up there


ff7 is one of the most overrated games ever it wasnt revolutionary at all except for the "pretty graphics" it was a good game though.

It had a great story line and interesting gameplay but I still think FFVI (III) was better and more enjoyable to play. FFVII just added a lot of drama to the series (and drama is overrated itself).
#7.4 CRIKEY on 04 Jul 2007 - 00:20
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Quote - (CRIKEY said @ #7.2)
Quote - (PermaSt0ne said @ #7.1)
FF7 is the best RPG ever made (havn't tried oblivion yet though). and just one of the best games in general ever as well. it was revolutionary as well. it's a disgrace to not have it up there


ff7 is one of the most overrated games ever it wasnt revolutionary at all except for the "pretty graphics" it was a good game though.

It had a great story line and interesting gameplay but I still think FFVI (III) was better and more enjoyable to play. FFVII just added a lot of drama to the series (and drama is overrated itself).


that is pretty much what i think drama and pretty graphics
#8 Croquant on 02 Jul 2007 - 22:33
Worthless list. I mean, is Fallout even on the list?
Well, I don't know because you have to buy the magazine to see the list. I call hype.
#9 martskre on 02 Jul 2007 - 22:56
These kind of opinions about whatever is the best game out there and such are purely subjective which is why making these lists should be frowned upon in general. If the readers of Edge magazine thinks that Ocarina of Time is the 'greatest game ever', then fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but these mainstream lists works purely as advertising, whether you agree or not.
#10 brent3000 on 02 Jul 2007 - 23:25
I may not agree with some of that list but i stand to agree that Zelda OOT was one of the best games i have ever played the story line was just perfect and the gameplay was unmatchable...
(1 reply) #11 Oxuyoska on 02 Jul 2007 - 23:33
Goldeneye, baby.
#11.1 QuarterSwede on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:56
Exaclty. The times I had playing that with my friends was magical. I can't remember how many times we were told to be quite because of how riled up we'd get. Although my favorite multiplayer game has to be Super Bomberman. That game was fantastic with 4 players. The gameplay was so quick and unpredictable it was amazing.
#12 Lemonzest on 02 Jul 2007 - 23:51
WTF NO DOOM!!! INVALID
#13 TheBigB on 03 Jul 2007 - 00:10
it very well deserved this. i actually always felt that it was one of the best games ever
#14 Croquant on 03 Jul 2007 - 01:26
Anyone have the whole list? Post it or link to it please.
(2 replies) #15 Digix on 03 Jul 2007 - 02:28
zelda... what a joke. maybe if it was top 100 games to buy a 8 year old..
#15.1 The Tjalian on 03 Jul 2007 - 14:03
Have you ever even played Ocarina of Time?

Go back, play it, and say that again.

If you still think Zelda's for kids go and play some Majora's Mask.
#15.2 QuarterSwede on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:57
Wow, talk about being in the minority.
#16 EchoNoise on 03 Jul 2007 - 03:23
Errr... where is doom?
#17 rayjin on 03 Jul 2007 - 03:26
Nintendo rules the list
#18 Lare2 on 03 Jul 2007 - 05:48
Golden Eye Ruled IMO
(4 replies) #19 Richard Davison on 03 Jul 2007 - 07:20
Where did chrono trigger place?
#19.1 David1978 on 03 Jul 2007 - 07:40
OOT was a fantastic game. I may not agree with the list but where would the fun be if we all agreed on the top ten.
#19.2 Magallanes on 03 Jul 2007 - 18:41
Some facts:

Chrono Trigger vs Zelda :

Music:
CT>Zelda. (the ocarina theme is nice but not compared with CT theme)

Story:
CT>Zelda. CT have a complex story, a lot of ending and many subplots (not mini-missions) also a lot of secrets.

Characters.
CT>Zelda. A Hero with the Dragonball's hair, a spoiled princess, a gadgeter girl, a cave-girl, a warm heart robot, a "yummy" frog and a badass guy vs a couple of elfs.

Funny Factor:
CT>Zelda

#19.3 The Gunslinger on 05 Jul 2007 - 08:35
Quote - (Magallanes said @ #19.2)
Some facts:

Chrono Trigger vs Zelda :

Music:
CT>Zelda. (the ocarina theme is nice but not compared with CT theme)

Story:
CT>Zelda. CT have a complex story, a lot of ending and many subplots (not mini-missions) also a lot of secrets.

Characters.
CT>Zelda. A Hero with the Dragonball's hair, a spoiled princess, a gadgeter girl, a cave-girl, a warm heart robot, a "yummy" frog and a badass guy vs a couple of elfs.

Funny Factor:
CT>Zelda



Wow dude... you summed it up nicely, I cant believe Chrono Trigger is not on that list! Chrono Trigger is the best RPG ever... Everything about that game is excellent! I cant think of anything I would have changed in that game. It was perfection.
#19.4 balupton on 09 Jul 2007 - 15:29
Chrono Cross is my favourite game of all time...
#20 ziadoz on 03 Jul 2007 - 08:13
They missed out Unreal Tournament, Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider, Sonic the Hedgehog, Goldeneye, Doom and many other classics!
#21 Darkness2k on 03 Jul 2007 - 08:41
I don't see Paradroid' 90 on that list!
Or Syndicate, Dungeon Keeper... ah well, I know I liked them

Plus countless others
#22 jamesyfx on 03 Jul 2007 - 09:04
I think Zelda deserves the top spot, but the rest of the list?

Nahh. I mean, I bought FFXII, and I sold it, AND I sold the machine with it! I was that disappointed with it.. I thought of it as my PS2's dying breath. :p

So It can't be that good.
(1 reply) #23 Typhon on 03 Jul 2007 - 09:34
I am sorry but Zelda sucks.
#23.1 The Tjalian on 03 Jul 2007 - 14:05
What game would you put down as #1?
(2 replies) #24 ripgut on 03 Jul 2007 - 14:21
1) OoT

2) Pilotwings 64

3) Starcraft



Half-life=overrated
#24.1 WICKO on 03 Jul 2007 - 21:33
you're overrated.
#24.2 southside on 05 Jul 2007 - 19:26
Quote - (ripgut said @ #24)
1) OoT

2) Pilotwings 64

3) Starcraft



Half-life=overrated

LMAO that is the most stupid list I have ever seen.
#25 Gnome on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:29
So where the hell are Rogue and NetHack? No Eye of the Beholder? And, most importantly, where the hell is AdventureLand for the Commodore Vic-20?

Sorry, with everyone bitching about their favorite games that weren't mentioned, I felt like I should add more pointless whining to the conversation.

Anyways... Please, carry on.
#26 Samboini on 03 Jul 2007 - 15:40
Zelda deserves no. 1, however I can't fully agree with the rest of the list.
(1 reply) #27 LittleMeEgo on 03 Jul 2007 - 16:33
My list might be like this, in no particular order:

Dungeon Master (1988 for Amiga)
Quake (1996)
BF2142
Berzerk (1980)
Archon (atari 8bit version)
Alternate Reality (Atari version - 1985)
Virtua Fighter 2 (haven't played 5 much yet)
Exodus Ultima III
Sim City
Total Annhilation
Mule (atari 8bit)
TomeNET

Ahh you can see I'm not much of a console gamer. HL2? That's the one game I didn't like and feel its over hyped just because it was a decent successor to a great game.

Last edited by LittleMeEgo on 03 Jul 2007 - 16:56
#27.1 WICKO on 03 Jul 2007 - 21:32
BF2142?? Was that supposed to be a joke?

Seriously, that game is one terrible rehash of BF2 with pretty much the same bugs.
#28 xMorpheousx416 on 03 Jul 2007 - 17:09
The list is composed of facts and opinions. Personally, I think the Zelda series in it's entirety will eventually go down in history as one of the top "most played" series. Don't really know why it's so catchy, but from the tiny 8bit, golden cased Zelda... to the latest on Wii.... they seem to keep adding to the series in ways to keep those that play it, going on something new.
#29 iMoth on 03 Jul 2007 - 19:47
i wish i still had my nintendo 64 & copy of ocarina of time...

Q.Q


what a great ass game.
#30 ^_^ Silly Willy on 04 Jul 2007 - 02:01
Worse Zelda game ever.
#31 +warwagon on 04 Jul 2007 - 04:48
Super Metroid is awesome!
(1 reply) #32 Sinz on 04 Jul 2007 - 13:38
There is obviously a huge divide within these comments. I wonder if age has anything to do with it? Old school gamers vs. eye candy gamers? Who knows. All I know for a fact is that tomorrow will bring yet another end all be all list and people will continue to rant and rave about the inclusion of this game and the omission of that game. For the record though, Ocarina of Time was an awesome game when it came out and will always carry a special something for the old schoolers in here.
#32.1 LittleMeEgo on 04 Jul 2007 - 16:27
Quote - (Sinz said @ #32)
There is obviously a huge divide within these comments. I wonder if age has anything to do with it? Old school gamers vs. eye candy gamers? Who knows. All I know for a fact is that tomorrow will bring yet another end all be all list and people will continue to rant and rave about the inclusion of this game and the omission of that game. For the record though, Ocarina of Time was an awesome game when it came out and will always carry a special something for the old schoolers in here.


Old schoolers from a 1997 game? That's not old school IMO. To me, old school is if you played video games in the 1970s or earlier. Space Wars, Pong, etc etc. Those are old school in my opinion however I'm sure there are older people than I who played pinball before video games were out. Even a 1980s video game would be semi-old school to me, especially the early 80s.
#33 anamericangod on 04 Jul 2007 - 21:30
is there any way to contact them about the Final Fantasy XII choice? They should know that they made a typo....a pretty severe one...

And in case it wasn't a typo, well, the list is negated.
#34 miguel_montes on 04 Jul 2007 - 21:58
So, where's "Strip Poker" on that list?
#35 Aukon07 on 05 Jul 2007 - 04:22
I remember the old days when I was young, playing that game.

Ahh... memories....
#36 Xeta on 05 Jul 2007 - 16:50
Over 10 years old now? Damnit! I hate getting old!
#37 Speedstar-Nintendo-Guy on 08 Jul 2007 - 09:48
If I were doing the list, I'd put:

Super Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Super Mario Bros 3
Pokemon Red/Blue
Half Life 2
Halo
Super Mario World
The Wind Waker
Sonic the Hedgehog
007 Goldeneye

I thought all those games were Brilliant, however i'm not decided about Goldeneye, I know it was groundbreaking and awesome back then, but having played it at the beginning of this year, well it was great, but nothing too special. I found the controls very complicated, and although it may have been a turn in FPS's, it doesn't play as well today as it probably did back then, however, I'd say all the rest on that list do, or will.

However, funny how the guy in the BBC report said "I hope to see more PS3 and Xbox 360 games". What about Wii? Wii has Twilight Princess, Sonic, and soon Mario and Metroid, among tonnes of others. And 360? That has Gears of War already, there are tonnes of classic games this generation, just...not on PS3.

Last edited by Speedstar-Nintendo-Guy on 08 Jul 2007 - 10:20
#38 sw1zz on 09 Jul 2007 - 19:56
Uhhh, OoT Was mucher better then Super Mario 64, I Enjoyed OoT So much i did like 2 Years over it, LOL

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