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Parallel Processing Wants PS3's Impounded and Destroyed

bangbang023   on 01 August 2007 - 14:17 · 45 comments & 28946 views

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Parallel Processing Corp. is asking a federal court to order Sony to destroy its PlayStation 3 videogame consoles, which PPC claims infringes on its patents for microprocessor technology.

PPC filed the lawsuit last week in U.S. District Court in Tyler, Texas. The suit claims that the cell processor, developed by Sony, Toshiba, and IBM, violates PPC's patent for "synchronized parallel processing with shared memory." The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted the patent in October 1991.

Sony on Tuesday didn't respond to a request for comment.

The PPC technology breaks up a program into individual tasks, which are executed in parallel on separate processors. The technology speeds up the time it takes to execute an application. Because of the alleged infringement, PPC is seeking damages and wants all PlayStation 3s "impounded and destroyed."

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#1 csabo2 on 01 Aug 2007 - 14:26
haha awsome
(3 replies) #2 Mathachew on 01 Aug 2007 - 14:29
Sounds like they've got a keen interest in the console wars winner.
#2.1 ir0nw0lf on 01 Aug 2007 - 17:17
Quote - (Mathachew said @ #2)
Sounds like they've got a keen interest in the console wars winner.

You sure you commented on the right article? I don't see a Microsoft or Nintendo product name in the title.
#2.2 Eis on 02 Aug 2007 - 01:56
Quote - (Mathachew said @ #2)
Sounds like they've got a keen interest in the console wars winner.

Last time I checked "winner" was not synonymous with the term "dead last".
#2.3 Mathachew on 02 Aug 2007 - 15:04
Quote - (ir0nw0lf said @ #2.1)
Quote - (Mathachew said @ #2)
Sounds like they've got a keen interest in the console wars winner.

You sure you commented on the right article? I don't see a Microsoft or Nintendo product name in the title.


Sony is trying to do what with the PS3? Parallel Processing wants to destroy what product?
(1 reply) #3 Beastage on 01 Aug 2007 - 14:49
For now their patent seems a bit too generic in my eyes, kinda like patenting multicore cpus
#3.1 Pippin666 on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:14
Quote - (Beastage said @ #4)
For now their patent seems a bit too generic in my eyes, kinda like patenting multicore cpus
Thanks, I'm so going to patent that and get rich!

Pip'
(1 reply) #4 Lexcyn on 01 Aug 2007 - 15:31
Yeah so according to them anything with "synchronized parallel processing with shared memory" should be impounded and destroyed. This patent thing never ceases to amaze me. This company deserves nothing.
#4.1 +chevyordeath on 02 Aug 2007 - 02:46
I completely agree. This lawsuit is B$.
(4 replies) #5 MrA on 01 Aug 2007 - 15:32
A couple of things:
a) Why aren't they suing IBM and Toshiba since they are partners in the design and development of the chip?
b) Why wait this long? If they really wanted to 'protect' their IP, why didn't they sue Sony 3-4 years ago when the cell was being developed?

#5.1 Aahz on 01 Aug 2007 - 16:24
It's common practice to wait until a product which infringes upon you is on the market. That way the manufacturer either has to issue a recall or settle for some outrageous sum of money.

(PPC isn't looking to actually get PS3 units removed from the market...they are looking to get paid and enter into a licensing agreement with Sony)
#5.2 Pippin666 on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:13
Quote - (MrA said @ #6)
a) Why aren't they suing IBM and Toshiba since they are partners in the design and development of the chip?
You said it yourself, they designed it, they are not selling it.
Quote - (MrA said @ #6)
b) Why wait this long? If they really wanted to 'protect' their IP, why didn't they sue Sony 3-4 years ago when the cell was being developed?
Because cell processors doesn't neccesarily mean "synchronized parallel processing with shared memory".

Pip.
#5.3 MrA on 01 Aug 2007 - 21:17
Quote - (Pippin666 said @ #6.2)
Quote - (MrA said @ #6)
a) Why aren't they suing IBM and Toshiba since they are partners in the design and development of the chip?
You said it yourself, they designed it, they are not selling it.
Quote - (MrA said @ #6)
b) Why wait this long? If they really wanted to 'protect' their IP, why didn't they sue Sony 3-4 years ago when the cell was being developed?
Because cell processors doesn't neccesarily mean "synchronized parallel processing with shared memory".

Pip.

a) IBM is selling it., so they should be an equal target Not sure about Toshiba though.
b) Maybe not, but details about the cell were available 2-3 years ago, before the PS3's release. There's not much more we know now that we didn't know a few years ago.
#5.4 +Vlad on 22 Mar 2008 - 02:17
First off, you don't want to sue IBM. They have an excellent team of lawyers.

As far as I can tell, Sony is the assignee to all Cell-related patents/applications. So yes, it makes sense to sue them. They could sue Toshiba and IBM as well, but why pick a fight with the whole team when you can fight just one player?

If you look at the patent issued to International Parallel Machines, Inc, assignee of the patent, it's a pretty damned barebone patent, arguably applicable to ANY SMP based system. It's also the ONLY patent issued to IPM. On the other hand, Sony has many patents or applications covering a variety of mechanisms and design aspects of the Cell.

Anyways, you can't sue (and win a settlement from) someone for a technology that's being developed. Companies don't sit around and advertise that level of detail anyways. What you can do is hire some patent lawyers and have them troll through patents of big corporations looking for a big score and then make a big media ruckus when you find something.
#6 Colicab on 01 Aug 2007 - 15:38
Wont happen, but god id wet myself laffin if it did
(4 replies) #7 buletov on 01 Aug 2007 - 15:55
I'm going to patent "synchronized lungs breathing", so all you bast***s will have to pay me for breathing or get rid of one lung!
#7.1 spacer on 01 Aug 2007 - 16:32
I'll patent "single-lung breathing", so I can get in on this ingenious scheme of yours.
#7.2 zarniwoop on 01 Aug 2007 - 17:55
Blasted! I'll have to find alternative methods for breathing!
#7.3 billyea on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:41
Try open-source breathing.
#7.4 +TCLN Ryster on 01 Aug 2007 - 20:23
Your less than humorous analogy is flawed. You can't patent something that is already in widespread use. Besides, the original inventor of breathing (God or Natural Selection/Evolution.. according to whichever theory you subscribe to) might have something to say on the matter if you tried
(2 replies) #8 MightyJordan on 01 Aug 2007 - 16:04
Maybe Sony should just get rid of the PS3. It would be good for everyone. Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony. Microsoft and Nintendo would only have to battle each other, and Sony can work on the next generation, and improve the Blu-Ray format, which could make it the winner of the format war!
#8.1 Windam on 01 Aug 2007 - 17:11
If they ever did that no one would have any reason to trust sony again.
#8.2 NightmarE D on 01 Aug 2007 - 19:24
Quote - (Windam said @ #9.1)
If they ever did that no one would have any reason to trust sony again.


I think it's safe to say they already lost the trust of mass people with the PS3.
(1 reply) #9 jwjw1 on 01 Aug 2007 - 17:23
Parallel Processing Wants PS3's Impounded and Destroyed

whats next?...have the first born killed.....lol
#9.1 spacer on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:10
I'm a first born, so I don't like that idea much.
(1 reply) #10 gadean on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:21
funny but I'm surprised they aren't asking for money.
#10.1 gigapixels on 01 Aug 2007 - 18:47
I'm sure they simply want to look like they're not out for money but just want their IP protected... Thing is, they'll probably go for a settlement from Sony, in which they'll get a bunch of money anyway.
(2 replies) #11 Digix on 01 Aug 2007 - 19:18
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The PPC technology breaks up a program into individual tasks, which are executed in parallel on separate processors


wtf... the ps3 doesn't have more then 1 central processing unit in it wtf are they talking about ?
#11.1 simon360 on 01 Aug 2007 - 20:16
It has more than one core, which does the processing.
#11.2 Digix on 02 Aug 2007 - 09:10
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It has more than one core, which does the processing.


Thats still doesn't explain why they they "on separate processors" meaning more then one processor, I've never known a core to be referred to as a single "processor" ...



FX-74 is parallel on separate processors.

I'm not quite sure what their point is, yeah ok, there's 9 synergistic processing elements on the CBE which each it's own LS (local storage) of 256k's of memory, the direct memory part i understand, the misinterpretations of a "processor" i however, do not.

This does also undermine not only sony but IBM as the main developer of CBE as they and other companies offer it in other products such as mercury http://www.mc.com/microsites/cell/ .

I do believe if this moves anywhere, I'm sure IBM will just move in and tell them bugger off. Whoever this is seeking this discharge of sony is money orientated and not for the purpose of benefiting technology so i'm pretty sure they will lose it.
#12 Samboini on 01 Aug 2007 - 20:55
I could see the funny side if this went through...
(1 reply) #13 AJR1 on 01 Aug 2007 - 21:00
This is absolute nonsense, its a classic case of the Patent Compensation Culture, someone invents a product using a technology and because it makes money everybody wants a slice of the Pie, do you even think PPC would bother with the PlayStation 3 and its "infringements" if it hardly sold, i very much think not.

Yet PPC have noticed Sony have sold some numbers, found a way that the PlayStation 3 might infringe on their already Patented solution, and are now requesting that Sony "Impound and Destroy" all PlayStation 3 units, absolute nonsense.

I think Sony should tell them in the politest possible terms to go f*** themselves.

Why arent PPC taking IBM to court for using the full 8 synthetic cores of the CELL in other products, why arent they suing Microsoft for using a triple core architecture, why arent they taking everyone to court who uses Synchornized Parallel Processing using Distributed Memory, isnt every single Dual/Quad core CPU and every other PC doing that now anyway!? to some extent, so i guess if they tried hard enough, they could probably take us all to court and request our entertainment be Impounded and Destroyed.

PPC = Losers!

#13.1 Digix on 02 Aug 2007 - 09:20
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why arent they suing Microsoft for using a triple core architecture


xbox 360's processor doesn't have the LS of direct memory for each processing core if i remember right, but i do agree it's bs they should f*** off with a silly money orientated case like this.

i'm not quite sure what they really mean but like you're saying i'll just point you in the right direct, pc's as we know at the moment use shared memory access not direct like the LS on the CBE SPU's which is direct which it mentions.
#14 Green_Eye on 01 Aug 2007 - 23:22
ohh gee those morons must have gathered all their three remaining brain cells to think this would actually work...

(1 reply) #15 ZeroHour on 01 Aug 2007 - 23:36
This is nothing more then another example of the US patent office giving a patent to a generic concept.
Much like the Amazon 1-click buy system. Dont just blame the companies that exploit the system.
It was your damn patent office that gave them the right to do it.
#15.1 QuarterSwede on 03 Aug 2007 - 22:26
If I remember correctly, a company has a certain amount of time (in years) to produce a working prototype and market it or they lose the patent. Then again, I may be wrong, and if I am they should change to the law.
#16 Croquant on 02 Aug 2007 - 00:35
I should patent a process that allows you to sue anyone who even remotely looks like that might possibly have a chance of infringing on one of your patents. I'd make millions!
(1 reply) #17 SkyyPunk on 02 Aug 2007 - 03:02
At some point, I am going to take a week off, and just patent everything that comes to mind
#17.1 CRIKEY on 02 Aug 2007 - 07:59
not if i patent the act of "taking a week off and patenting everything that comes to mind" first. hahahahaha (infeasible)
(1 reply) #18 Ruciz on 02 Aug 2007 - 12:35
lol.. sony can't get a break. They should really check up on patents before developing ANYTHING from now on.. considering we lost rumble due to a patent infringment, and now we are about to 'lose' the PS3 too.
#18.1 Darkinspiration on 03 Aug 2007 - 23:15
Well see if you document your patents checkup then if you are taken to court on a possible infringement, it weakens your defense. Not to mention's that going to the entire patent database will take you weeks.
#19 +Tikimotel on 02 Aug 2007 - 21:15
..and the Parallel Processing Corp. does what? exactly? file patents? or something more constructive?
Go sink in the stink Parallel Processing Corp. !!!
#20 +Tikimotel on 02 Aug 2007 - 21:27
I googled for "Parallel Processing Corporation" they don't even have the money for a proper website. (so to me. They don't exist as a company...)
Does the "Parallel Processing Corporation" own a world wide patent? How the hell do they pay for that? they don't "make" or "create" anything?
#21 lylesback2 on 04 Aug 2007 - 01:32
it would never happen.. patents don't seem to mean sh*t these days when it comes to copyright infringement...

maybe a settlement for millions will shut them up, or if they are really want ps3 destroyed, a CPU change will come into effect, and the consoles recalled
#22 brent3000 on 04 Aug 2007 - 05:17
cuz sony can afford another one of their products being recalled...

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