The Windows PC is the largest gaming platform in the world
Posted by Steven Parker on 26 June 2008 - 09:58 · 25 comments & 11840 views
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#1 Posted by +stevember on 26 Jun 2008 - 12:30
- And we thank Nvidia and ATI for it.
Keep the competition up.
Loving my 2 4850's I got yesterday (sold my 3870x2 on ebay for 90% cost lol) in crossfire bloody amazing.
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#2 Posted by +warwagon on 26 Jun 2008 - 14:38
- Mainly because Linux is still not user friendly.
Example
I installed SUSE Linux last night.
downloaded the driver from nvidia's website. It wanted to compile it self, but before it could do that I had to install the gcc compiler along with the kernel source code and the make command.
I tried Ubuntu last week, but after I would enable the driver I would get a black screen upon logging on that said something about unsupported resolution.
So I was researching my issue online and they said for me to go edit a config file. Well I'm going to stop right there because thats just retarted. And people wonder why linux has such a small market share.
They should just scratch all the distro bull ****, just focus ALL there efforts on a great 1 version of Linux with awesome compatibility and windows like driver and application installation. -
#2.1 Posted by Thetemptrary on 26 Jun 2008 - 14:58
- It isn't mainly because of that,i tried to run ut2004 in my ubuntu setup a year ago,it ran like crap.
Directx has evolved like no other gaming platform in the World
Windows is the king in this area
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#2.2 Posted by +stevember on 26 Jun 2008 - 15:15
- (warwagon said @ #2)Mainly because Linux is still not user friendly.
Umm this is comparing to consoles not the operating system. Nice see you read it. -
#2.3 Posted by tablet_user on 26 Jun 2008 - 15:52
- (warwagon said @ #2)Mainly because Linux is still not user friendly.
Example
I installed SUSE Linux last night.
downloaded the driver from nvidia's website. It wanted to compile it self, but before it could do that I had to install the gcc compiler along with the kernel source code and the make command.
I tried Ubuntu last week, but after I would enable the driver I would get a black screen upon logging on that said something about unsupported resolution.
So I was researching my issue online and they said for me to go edit a config file. Well I'm going to stop right there because thats just retarted. And people wonder why linux has such a small market share.
They should just scratch all the distro bull ****, just focus ALL there efforts on a great 1 version of Linux with awesome compatibility and windows like driver and application installation.
no because then it will be some garbage debian based distro like ubuntu or kubuntu or any of the other bloated distros around. -
#2.4 Posted by Budious on 27 Jun 2008 - 08:15
- If you grew up since 1995 and never touched DOS, I can understand why Linux could not be for you. In ubuntu, that config file can be auto-generated for you with the #nvidia-config command. Most distributions have pre-compiled binaries so doing it yourself is just another step. Specifying the resolution you want to use is about a 10 second process in a text editor.
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#2.5 Posted by Azmodan on 30 Jun 2008 - 13:30
- (Budious said @ #2.4)Specifying the resolution you want to use is about a 10 second process in a text editor.
Yes, but you need to understand that the end-user is an idiot. And this system isn't idiot-proof.
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#2.6 Posted by Budious on 30 Jun 2008 - 22:44
- (Azmodan said @ #2.5)(Budious said @ #2.4)Specifying the resolution you want to use is about a 10 second process in a text editor.
Yes, but you need to understand that the end-user is an idiot. And this system isn't idiot-proof.
If you're moderately comfortable with a command line, it's not too much of an extra step to copy the original to a backup file and restore it if you screw it up. Also, you can just run #nvidia-config again to auto generate a new one. The text file only holds configs for X windowing, so you can't kill the command line, at least from that config file anyways.
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#2.7 Posted by Rolf Harris on 01 Jul 2008 - 12:00
- (warwagon said @ #2)retarted.
lol irony
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#3 Posted by waldenasta on 26 Jun 2008 - 18:18
- I agree with the fact that open source linux, suse, ubuntu, red hat, is a pain. i have a laptop amd turion 64, nvidia, next gen wifi-n, and can't seems to get it work with any of the distros. linux should concentrate more on getting gpu's to work and wifi because lets face it. If you buy a system with these capabilities why am I then going to run a OS that doesn't take advantage of these capabilities. I am not a super fan of microsoft but hey, it least things just work.
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#3.1 Posted by MrA on 27 Jun 2008 - 00:05
- But GPUs & wifi not working in Linux is nothing to do with Linux or it's developers. If there was something the devs could do, they would, but they can't. Without specs, it's hard to write a driver if the manufacturer isn't willing to do so themselves.
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#3.2 Posted by MioTheGreat on 27 Jun 2008 - 04:04
- (MrA said @ #3.1)But GPUs & wifi not working in Linux is nothing to do with Linux or it's developers. If there was something the devs could do, they would, but they can't. Without specs, it's hard to write a driver if the manufacturer isn't willing to do so themselves.
The end user doesn't care. That's completely irrelevant to them. What matters is that it doesn't work.
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#4 Posted by Jdawg683 on 26 Jun 2008 - 19:49
- this coming from the company that makes the xbox 360?
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#4.1 Posted by MioTheGreat on 27 Jun 2008 - 04:05
- The 360 uses DX9, so development for one allows for easier porting to the other.
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#4.2 Posted by Athernar on 08 Jul 2008 - 14:29
- (MioTheGreat said @ #4.1)The 360 uses DX9, so development for one allows for easier porting to the other.
Either way, Microsoft wins because it entices developers to target those two platforms.
The 360 uses a blend of DX9 and DX10 technologies if i remember correctly.
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#5 Posted by Xeta on 26 Jun 2008 - 22:35
- "Consoles will destroy PC gaming." This and similar statements have been said many times before, and yet, PC gaming is still out there.
While PC gaming may or may not be on a decline, it will never fall off the radar. The mouse and keyboard interface is still unbeatable for RTS and FPS games. Besides, how else are those 10+ million MMO subscribers supposed to get their fix? -
#5.1 Posted by Budious on 27 Jun 2008 - 08:24
- I find myself on the growing trend of turning to consoles more often than PC for entertainment. Each has it's strong genre niches, RTS games will always work better with a keyboard and mouse, but most sport and racing games are going to play better with a gamepad and easily cross-platformed. The fact that I can sink $300 into a console once every 3-4 years is a better bargain than sinking $300 every 9 months in the GPU cycle.
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#5.2 Posted by Xeta on 27 Jun 2008 - 22:58
- I would agree with the racing and adventure games being better with a controller. For quite a while there I was thinking of giving up on PC gaming. But I like the RTS genre too much so I keep coming back to it. And yeah, console gaming is much more cost effective.
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#6 Posted by chris4 on 27 Jun 2008 - 01:12
- In related news - researchers announce that the sky is blue and water is wet.
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#7 Posted by Skulltrail on 27 Jun 2008 - 02:52
- WINDOWS FTW!!!
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#8 Posted by illustrick on 27 Jun 2008 - 16:21
- .....team fortress 2 is way better on pc than it is on the 360 or ps3. and besides....crysis? far cry 2......gonna look way better on my 22 in monitor with a 1 ms response time with a 3000:1 ratio than my 36 in tube.
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#9 Posted by stevehoot on 01 Jul 2008 - 22:58
- It's a case of cost. I have always had a "lite" interest in gaming. From Doom/Wolfenstien3D through to lemmings, Quake series and C&C series.
However I just can't afford to spend the cost of a console every year on upgrading my PC. I'd love to, as I prefer it (tried C&C on the 360 and it just didn't cut it....)
However for £200 I can get a gaming rig that plugs into my surround sound and HD telly, comes with everything I need and I KNOW the games will work.
Same reason why Linux isn't popular with gaming enthuasists - there's a good chance it won't work out of the box. And when you get a game you don't want to spend time with config files or realising that there is no driver support. It used to be bad enough with Windows until XP/Vista. Whilst Vista just works regarding the vast majority of games (I was playing Theme Hospital earlier!
with a console it's just easier and cheaper.
PC's will never die out for gamers. The ability to upgrade and have a better experience than console users alone is enough to ensure that. But in another generations time I wouldn't be suprised to see the mainsteam/casual gamer be solely on the PS/Xbox.
Prior to Microsoft’s “Big Picture” gaming showcase held today in San Francisco, corporate vice president John Schappert reminded us that, despite what you may have heard, the Windows PC is the world’s dominant gaming platform. Expect another big push from Microsoft to defend the Windows PC against game consoles.
We have to be realistic about the fact that PC gaming is threatened by hugely popular game consoles. And if you look at media coverage alone, it sometimes appears that high-end PC gaming is already being reduced to benchmarking CPUs and GPUs. Subjectively, the lion’s share of gaming talk these days appears to be focused on consoles.