Is 360's Red Ring of Death finally fixed?

New Xbox 360 models have been spotted using upgraded components, said to make the infamous Red Ring of Death a thing of the past. The newest 360s are fitted with new 'Jasper' motherboards, says a report on Joey Gadget, as well as a new and improved graphics chip. The upgraded components are smaller and emit less heat, according to the techies, which in turn should mean no more red lights on your 360, and less postman visits to send your console off to Xbox repairs.

If you're keen to find one of the new 'Jasper' 360s, you should look for a manufacturing date as early as June 8, 2008, 'Lot 8031' and up, and 'Team CSON' on the back of the console - though you'll probably have to bribe the bloke behind the counter to see it.

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Also a point to consider is that the PSU / heating / chipset RROD death only really appeared after the console had been in service a while at high rates.

The PS3 is still very young. I would wait before comparing service failure rates of each console as it would be unfair if the 360 had an 18 month deployment lead on the PS3.

You never *know* in Oct 09 all the PS3s might just die ...

I have a 360 because it works fine as a media extender to my PC. And the games on it are fine for me, a friend has a PS3 and the same games as me and we have played them side by side on my TV at HDMI and unless you are a complete freak you cannot tell the difference between COD4 and FIFA09 and Grid - they all look impressive.

S.

Microsoft did broke several oath in the past related with the fix of RROD. So, may be the RROD is related with a core design fault, hence they can't fix it without rebuild from scratch.

Well mine is one of the new ones

It's got a smaller, lighter power brick and sounds a little quieter.

If it RROD's again then it's getting used as a firework.

One more thing to add:

I work for UPS and over the past two years I have seen a LOT of 360s come down my belt. I have sent two myself, so that's how I know what the majority of the boxes look like. I used to count the boxes. Obviously I couldn't count everyone, but there were some nights when there would be 100+ 360s come through the warehouse! (Yes, sometimes you get bored out there and you have to pass the time somehow.) Here lately though, I've noticed that there have been fewer and fewer coming through. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but maybe not. I don't think they can totally fix a problem like that, because hardware failure is ALWAYS possible. They may have greatly reduced it to the point that they, Microsoft, will finally stop losing money on repairs. The only problem with that is that by the time they get this fully figured out they will release the new problems... I mean new console. Sorry.

And on a side note, I'm interested to see what new problems are going to be introduced when the new console update is released this Fall. Likely none, but I still can't wait!

Wonder where you check the "Lot 8031" and "Team CSON" as I just checked mine and it has a manufacture date of 25/6/08 but I cannot find any of those other things anywhere

The DVD drive in this is very loud though, far louder than the old one I had, but when not playing games its whisper quiet

So you're saying if the sticker on the box says Team CSON, then it's one of the new desirable models with revised hardware? That will make it easier to make sure I get the right one

That's correct.

To clarify the original news post, you don't need to bribe the bloke behind the counter to open the box, just see the label on the box.

umm, sure they could fix it. It is not like it is something that they could never change, like how two pieces of the hardware fit together, it is just a heating problem...

Why would you say it could not be fixed? Anything can be fixed...

Go for whichever one has the exclusive games you like the look of - no point having a 360 for it's "great multiplayer" if you don't like FPSs, or the PS3 for it's Blu-Ray if you like multiplayer FPSs. Despite the PS3s shortcomings, I see few attractive titles on the 360 side (prefer the look of LBP, GT5, etc to Halo, GoW, etc) so there is little point in me getting one.

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Go for whichever one has the exclusive games you like the look of - no point having a 360 for it's "great multiplayer" if you don't like FPSs, or the PS3 for it's Blu-Ray if you like multiplayer FPSs. Despite the PS3s shortcomings, I see few attractive titles on the 360 side (prefer the look of LBP, GT5, etc to Halo, GoW, etc) so there is little point in me getting one.
Well said.
Both consoles are fine now, hardware (hopefully this is true) and software shortcomings are a thing of the past for each one respectively, so it really comes down to exclusives.

(Fourjays said @ #2)
Go for whichever one has the exclusive games you like the look of - no point having a 360 for it's "great multiplayer" if you don't like FPSs, or the PS3 for it's Blu-Ray if you like multiplayer FPSs. Despite the PS3s shortcomings, I see few attractive titles on the 360 side (prefer the look of LBP, GT5, etc to Halo, GoW, etc) so there is little point in me getting one.

I'm so impressed with this response! I am a 360 fanboy (at heart), but I can totally see the pros of the PS3. I'm glad to see someone recommending a system based on the GAMES, not the manufacturer. It's all about the value for the purchase. I personally chose the 360 because I am an avid user of Xbox Live, and I enjoy the fact that you can gain Achievements. I also enjoy the Halos and Gears of War titles (thought I do enjoy multi-console releases as well such as Call of Duty 4). That's what I like. You (the collective you) may have different preferences, and should ALWAYS base your purchase choice off of what YOU like! Happy Purchasing!

-baconmonky