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Brian Maher   on 30 October 2008 - 13:22 · 78 comments & 15375 views

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In a controversial move, EA have announced that they have tied together their forum and in-game accounts, meaning that if anybody misbehaves on their forums and gets themselves banned, they'll be instantly banned from any games they have registered with the same name.

While we're all for banning nuisance members, banning people from games that they have coughed up a fair amount of money for is a bit far (especially when those richer gamers can simply repurchase the game). Therefore, unless you can afford to repurchase every game linked to your EA account - be on your best behavior at all times.

What do you think? Should EA be able to ban people from games that they've legally purchased?

Update: EA have now stated that the whole thing was a misunderstanding - and have now stated that being banned on the forum will not prevent you from playing games that you've purchased.

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(3 replies) #1 Neobond on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:23
Oh wow that really sucks!
#1.1 theyarecomingforyou on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:24
+1
#1.2 cykosis on 30 Oct 2008 - 19:20
It really only sucks if you routinely make an ass of yourself on their forums or in their games.
#1.3 theyarecomingforyou on 31 Oct 2008 - 00:51
No. Say you got really annoyed because the DRM in Mirror's Edge corrupts your Windows installs and you go and rant on the forums... boom, you're now banned from using Spore online. Fair? No. Sometimes emotions get the better of people and that's completely understandable.

In my eyes this amounts to theft. If you get banned for posts in one forum then you lose access to all your online games. It's designed to hide negative comments and is purely a marketing move. Behaviour in a forum should NOT affect your access to any game you've paid for, especially those completely unrelated.
(1 reply) #2 FloatingFatMan on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:27
If the game isn't an online only game, then how exactly can they ban you? If they can, then I can quickly see a few things happening.

1. They WILL get sued
2. There will be even MORE piracy of EU products.
3. People will stop buying EA's garbage
#2.1 WAR-DOG on 01 Nov 2008 - 18:47
4. People will stop posting on their forums, because of fear getting banned
#3 Charles Anderson on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:33
I don't have a problem with this at all. This should clean up the forums for folks looking for technical answers.

You can create a new separate account with another free email account for trolling and flame wars.
#4 error4o4 on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:37
Hah, dont act like a little sh*t and you wont have issues.

Whats the problem? Its like a mini version of life, ya know like sims. In the real world you act like out of control you get punished.

I mean since parents these days wont step up, I'm glad someone is.

The only place I can see a issue is if a Moderator is having a bad day, I hope to ban an account it requires a very step-by-step process. Not just 2 clicks and you're screwed setup. But it is EA... so who knows.
(3 replies) #5 +what on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:38
Easy solution: don't visit EAs forums if you're going to be a bitch. There are thousands of other places to act stupid.
#5.1 2Cold Scorpio on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:22
what said,
Easy solution: don't visit EAs forums if you're going to be a bitch. There are thousands of other places to act stupid.

+1
#5.2 +vlsi0n on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:26
what said,
Easy solution: don't visit EAs forums if you're going to be a bitch. There are thousands of other places to act stupid.


qft.
#5.3 Recon415 on 31 Oct 2008 - 05:33
vlsi0n said,
qft.


QTF.
(1 reply) #6 Skynetfuture on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:39
suprise !

from bad to worse , EA !
#6.1 TRC on 30 Oct 2008 - 23:39
Why is this bad? If people don't want to be banned, don't act like idiots.
#7 IceBreakerG on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:45
I really don't see this as a bad thing. On Xbox Live you can get banned for pretty much the same thing (well, not forum related, but acting like a dumbass on Live can get you banned).
#8 exotoxic on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:53
the only people that will have a problem with this are the ones that act like idiots.
(5 replies) #9 ZombieFly on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:04
this is exactly why centralised data is a bad idea. Your voice is forcibliy removed from you and you're blocked from services for not complying with the dictatorship....




#9.1 Glendi on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:12
ZombieFly said,
this is exactly why centralised data is a bad idea. Your voice is forcibliy removed from you and you're blocked from services for not complying with the dictatorship....


If not complying with dictatorship, means you act like a badass idiot, EA is doing the best thing.
#9.2 ZombieFly on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:14
no. this is an example of misuse of information. you should simply be banned from the forums. If someone has PAID for a game, they have no right to stop that from working when some 13yr old moderator takes a dislike to a forum post.

Last edited by ZombieFly on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:24
#9.3 IceBreakerG on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:30
So I guess Microsoft banning people's "consoles" from Xbox live when they paid for both the console and Xbox live is wrong too then under your logic right? Just because someone paid for something, doesn't mean they have the right to abuse the "service" in which they're using that product on. They paid for the game itself, not the ability to play on EA's servers. People who get banned for cheating in games like Battlefield 2, because punkbuster caught them shouldn't get banned either right since they paid for the game?
#9.4 ZombieFly on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:32
you appear to have missed the point entirely. The people are being banned from playing the game if they misbehave on the FORUMS. that has nothing to do with the game or the service. If someone was being a dick on the actual game [i.e. attacking players or repeatedly team killing etc] then fine, they should be banned.... what if you just create an account on the forums and attach it to some other gamers in game account? that person would then be banned from the game and you'd have bugger all chance of getting EA to do anything about it
#9.5 +trag3dy on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:55
ZombieFly said,
you appear to have missed the point entirely. The people are being banned from playing the game if they misbehave on the FORUMS. that has nothing to do with the game or the service. If someone was being a dick on the actual game [i.e. attacking players or repeatedly team killing etc] then fine, they should be banned.... what if you just create an account on the forums and attach it to some other gamers in game account? that person would then be banned from the game and you'd have bugger all chance of getting EA to do anything about it


I think you're over reacting a bit. They probably would only do this if you attach your cd key to your forum account. Also, I think they only can lock you out of online play, not solo? Maybe I'm misunderstanding that part.
#10 TheVestel on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:11
Oh yes this is too bad
Misbehaving on forums is not good indeed, but banning people from games is really crazy! Some games costs a lot of money! You can't ban someone from a game if the've paid for that!
(3 replies) #11 C_Guy on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:25
Considering the quality of EA's games and it's horrid management I fail to see how this will impact many people. If you're playing an EA game that is punishment enough.
#11.1 vetbangbang023 on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:35
That commentary on EA was applicable a few years ago. They're actually pretty decent now at putting out quality new titles and not just yearly updates.
#11.2 +vlsi0n on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:27
No kidding, have you seen their recent releases yet? Triple A titles galore.
#11.3 virtorio on 30 Oct 2008 - 21:12
vlsi0n said,
No kidding, have you seen their recent releases yet? Triple A titles galore.

You mean like Dead Space? It's punishment, but in a good way.
(1 reply) #12 Amodin on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:38
You paid for the media, the right to use he software and the Terms of Service.

If you don't agree with any of that, then don't buy the game.

You did not pay for the game itself, only the rights to use it. It's a totally crappy system, I know, but ultimately it's all them.
#12.1 LaP on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:51
Amodin said,
You paid for the media, the right to use he software and the Terms of Service.

If you don't agree with any of that, then don't buy the game.

You did not pay for the game itself, only the rights to use it. It's a totally crappy system, I know, but ultimately it's all them.


And people don't understand why kids decide to take the right to pirate games

Seriously i'm a mid 30 guy and grew up in a world where things you bought was your own property.

That system is totally ****ed up if you ask me. While everything in my house is legal i really understand more and more teens who pirate games.

I just wonder if this is a response to people complaining about DRM on EA forum ? You know it's a good way to make people stop. Complain about DRM, get a ban from the forum and the games you bought.

Great job EA.
#13 Sevan on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:47
^^ Exactly.

Online Gaming at it's best, you don't follow the rules, consider yourself gone. It's that simple.
(1 reply) #14 sparkymcg on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:54
What if I dont like someone in a game then I could just go on there forums and create an account with there username can I not? then could get them banned thats not right is it?
#14.1 +trag3dy on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:56
sparkymcg said,
What if I dont like someone in a game then I could just go on there forums and create an account with there username can I not? then could get them banned thats not right is it?


Obviously your forum account email/name would be tied to your games cd key somehow. Otherwise this system would be impossible to control.
(2 replies) #15 z0phi3l on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:07
I think MORE Companies need to do this (I'm eying you Blizzard)

Being on the Companies forums is generally speaking not necessary to play the game so if you act like a douche and get banned I agree that it should be ingame too, this is especially important in MMOs more than any other game.
#15.1 Shadrack on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:15
z0phi3l said,
I think MORE Companies need to do this (I'm eying you Blizzard)

Being on the Companies forums is generally speaking not necessary to play the game so if you act like a douche and get banned I agree that it should be ingame too, this is especially important in MMOs more than any other game.


Some people are just douche bags. The game provides a way to /ignore or if you need to /report them in-and-of-itself.
#15.2 +trag3dy on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:58
Shadrack said,
z0phi3l said,
I think MORE Companies need to do this (I'm eying you Blizzard)

Being on the Companies forums is generally speaking not necessary to play the game so if you act like a douche and get banned I agree that it should be ingame too, this is especially important in MMOs more than any other game.


Some people are just douche bags. The game provides a way to /ignore or if you need to /report them in-and-of-itself.


The problem with blizzard doing that is that WoW is subscription based. They instantly lose all the money they would have potentially gained. Whereareas with just your random FPS game, they already have your money, they could care less about you playing again in the future.
(2 replies) #16 Shadrack on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:14
Again, I hate EA and refuse to buy games from them anyway so this doesn't affect me .
#16.1 SaRCaSTiCHuM0r on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:40
Props to that, they keep ruining games.

Every blue moon they release a mediocre game but not worth buying, maybe a rent.
#16.2 Shadrack on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:14
Plenty of other publishers are releasing so many awesome titles that I don't even have the time to play . EA has run a lot of game franchises into the ground. They have an utter-lack of quality control. To be fair, their console games are not as bad as their PC games. But still, **** them.
(1 reply) #17 x-byte on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:21
Good move if you ask me. People should learn that acting like a idiot on the internet do have consequenses.
#17.1 RAID 0 on 30 Oct 2008 - 20:45
x-byte said,
Good move if you ask me. People should learn that acting like a idiot on the internet do have consequenses.


Not really.
#18 +chaosblade on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:05
Isn't this breaking any sort of EULA customers agreed to when purchasing the game? Since those don't mention they can lose access to the game if they behave incorrectly on the online community.

This, coupled with the few last DRM freakshows EA have put out on games, Shows they absolutely don't give a flying frak about what their customers want.
(2 replies) #19 Persephone on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:14
Misbehaving on the forums has nothing to do with misbehaving in the online game and really isn't fair to paying customers. Poor decision in my opinion.
#19.1 +Xerxes on 30 Oct 2008 - 20:53
I think it's a fantastic idea, their forums of full of people who need an attitude adjustment. Perhaps now knowing they can be banned from their games as well as the forums, they won't be so quick to make an arse of themselves on the forums. With how it is now, they can shoot their mouth off, get banned from the form and can just make another account and do it again. However, with this system they also get banned from their games as well, so now their actions will hold real consequences. People who do the right thing have nothing to fear from this, so I'm all for it.
#19.2 SierraSonic on 30 Oct 2008 - 23:56
I think it's a horrible idea, their forums are full of people who bitch for a reason! This will only give EA the option of banning people who badmouth the game, or the company, for doing what they do best, make horrifically coded games. "The right thing" is in the eye of the beholder. EA could take anything negative about their games and company you say and twist it into a way to ban you. EA doesn't need this much control over people. It's like the cops can come and arrest you if you said the USA sucks, or the government sucks.
#20 qdave on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:19
actually thats a good idea. that will teach the people some patience.
#21 reaper1576 on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:21
old news they openly admitted it back just when spore came out. basicly post anything they dont like equals banned. to get unbaned you have to phone them up its a joke.
#22 +techbeck on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:25
I for one am glad they are doing this. They wont get sued as long as they included this in the EULA. People are real jerks online and a lot of times they take they rudeness in to the game forums.
#23 Tikitiki on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:26
Solution: Don't register on their forums. Find your support via other means.

Personally this seems like a bad move for EA's part. You don't punish the people that purchase your product - ever.
(1 reply) #24 lord_xenos on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:29
It's a fact if life: act civily or accept the consequences. It doesn't matter if you paid for it or not. You pay for a car and license but if you act illegally that privilege is taken away from you. When you pay for anything and it has guidelines to abide by, and you disobey them, you deserve the consequences. Whether it's in the forums or in the game it's the same disobediant person and they should get banned. Solution? Don't be an a**h***.
#24.1 LaP on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:01
lord_xenos said,
It's a fact if life: act civily or accept the consequences. It doesn't matter if you paid for it or not. You pay for a car and license but if you act illegally that privilege is taken away from you. When you pay for anything and it has guidelines to abide by, and you disobey them, you deserve the consequences. Whether it's in the forums or in the game it's the same disobediant person and they should get banned. Solution? Don't be an a**h***.


The difference is to lose your driver's license you need to break driving laws. If you tell someone he is an idiot then you wont lose your driver's license. This idiot might sue you if he wants but it wont go farther than that. You wont go in jail either.

The thing is you did not break any laws in the game itself but the forum. The forum has absolutely nothing to do with the game.

There's plenty of way to get banned from a forum. You know like complaining about DRM issues with words that are often used by people who are angry.

I've seen often people getting banned from forums for things that were honestly nothing to write home about.
#25 Dr_Asik on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:45
I don't see the connection between being "allowed" to play your legitimally acquired games and behaving correctly on their forums. A forum ban should be a forum ban, nothing else.

Looks like EA really values its customers.
#26 theyarecomingforyou on 30 Oct 2008 - 16:45
People SHOULD be banned from forums for being a nuisance but only for the relevant game. People could come across all sorts of issues or the game could screw up their computer for instance, corrupting their Windows install - when they go to let off Steam on the forum (even though it's wrong) they would then end up getting banned from other games even though they may never have caused a problem in those forums / games.

It also increases the chance of abuse, as people can access other people's accounts to cause trouble and get them banned from dozens of games. Plus forums are no representation of how people behave in games.
#27 pandaman on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:08
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#28 KavazovAngel on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:26
What do you think? Should EA be able to ban people from games that they've legally purchased?


What do I think? S**** EA, that is what I think. Don't expect money from me.
#29 +techbeck on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:29
People get banned all the time from companies they buy stuff from. A lot of online games ban people for miss use. Like WoW, GW, WAR....they have every right to ban whoever. If you behave and act mature on their forums, then this is really no big deal. Seems to me the only people who would complain about this is the people who make trouble...everyone else who behaves shouldnt have an issue.,
#30 Magallanes on 30 Oct 2008 - 17:42
In theory sound fine but, in the EA forum:

a) ask for a update :ban.
b) critic :ban.
c) overhyping or astroturfing an EA products :not ban.
d) say you game will not run fine in your pc :ban.
e) Talk about a non-EA product :ban.
f) The moderator is a real assh*ole :ban.
g) To be a kid and act as a kid :ban.


#31 ajua on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:20
While keeping tight control on online games is ok with me, banning people from playing those games online based on their forum behavior is wrong.

Ban the trollers and flamers out of their forums, but they shouldn't do it from the games.
#32 Gabe3 on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:23
EA needs to go out of business.
#33 Galley on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:49
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime..."
(1 reply) #34 tablet_user on 30 Oct 2008 - 20:35
maybe this will teach people not to be idiots just because they are online.
#34.1 SierraSonic on 31 Oct 2008 - 00:03
What if I had the power to ban you from your car or house, just because I didn't like this comment you posted on Neowin...
(3 replies) #35 RAID 0 on 30 Oct 2008 - 20:57
All the people here support this type of action, I say this:

1. You're obviously against freedom of speech.

2. If you don't like it, don't read it. Just like watching TV. You don't like what's on, CHANGE the CHANNEL!

C. Stop crying about what people type on the Internet. Do you have anything better to do than bitch and moan about what people post in forums? Heaven forbid you find 4chan or Fark. They might give you a heart attack.
#35.1 +trag3dy on 30 Oct 2008 - 21:18
RAID 0 said,
All the people here support this type of action, I say this:

1. You're obviously against freedom of speech.

2. If you don't like it, don't read it. Just like watching TV. You don't like what's on, CHANGE the CHANNEL!

C. Stop crying about what people type on the Internet. Do you have anything better to do than bitch and moan about what people post in forums? Heaven forbid you find 4chan or Fark. They might give you a heart attack.


There is no freedom of speech on a private forum on the internet. You register for their forum with their rules, for their game. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.

Also people are saying the forum and the games shouldn't be connected. But what about just being banned from the forums? Everyone says they'll just create another forum account, so where does the punishment come into play? People will keep on being stupid and being banned and so on. This way it might get through their thick skulls that there are consequences for their actions.
#35.2 SierraSonic on 31 Oct 2008 - 00:07
no, it means that legit people are going to get screwed, and people who create fake accounts are going to continue doing whatever they were doing. Nothing will change but honest people will get hurt from them.

The bad people will jsut sign up with accounts like easuxbawls123 with no link to games and they lose nothing.

Mr. A comes to EA forum, about a real issue with a game, the moderator doesn't like how he asked for help with to many uses of the F word, and other trivial issues. Mr. A has a game linked with his account, and poof loses the ability to play it because of this stupid ****.

HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH THIS AT ALL PEOPLE!?
#35.3 +trag3dy on 31 Oct 2008 - 20:12
SierraSonic said,
no, it means that legit people are going to get screwed, and people who create fake accounts are going to continue doing whatever they were doing. Nothing will change but honest people will get hurt from them.

The bad people will jsut sign up with accounts like easuxbawls123 with no link to games and they lose nothing.

Mr. A comes to EA forum, about a real issue with a game, the moderator doesn't like how he asked for help with to many uses of the F word, and other trivial issues. Mr. A has a game linked with his account, and poof loses the ability to play it because of this stupid ****.

HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH THIS AT ALL PEOPLE!?


Erm. The "honest" people have nothing to worry about if they are honest. : /
They won't be the ones acting like @ssholes on the forums. Unless we have different ideas of what it means to be honest. If they post their issues whatever it may be in a civil manner on the forum and EA still bans them for it, then that's a problem.
#36 TRC on 30 Oct 2008 - 23:38
Blizzard should do this to. Their forums are pathetic.
(1 reply) #37 Knaarfje on 31 Oct 2008 - 02:02
How people see this as a good thing is beyond me. I guess yay for piracy!
#37.1 TC17 on 01 Nov 2008 - 00:01
Knaarfje said,
How people see this as a good thing is beyond me. I guess yay for piracy!

Yes, yet another reason why piracy does exist.
#38 Airlink on 31 Oct 2008 - 02:44

Wow, EA really are a bunch of Nazis!
(1 reply) #39 Rohdekill on 31 Oct 2008 - 03:15
If I read this correctly, you would only be banned IF your forum name and game names match. So, how does EA plan to handle when I register myself in a forum under a game name of an opponent I faced who was kickin' my butt and I start cussing on their forums? Does this mean I no longer need to worry about my opponent as his game account will now be banned ??
#39.1 skynetXrules on 02 Nov 2008 - 04:35
Rohdekill said,
If I read this correctly, you would only be banned IF your forum name and game names match. So, how does EA plan to handle when I register myself in a forum under a game name of an opponent I faced who was kickin' my butt and I start cussing on their forums? Does this mean I no longer need to worry about my opponent as his game account will now be banned ??


i doubt that the case

i think it will be if you have EA Acc + serial num tied with the same email then you will be fully banned

anyway they sated in the update that not the case
#40 CrimsonBetrayal on 31 Oct 2008 - 04:05
If most people notice, when you play an ea game online you have to sign into the ea network. I'm pretty sure that's how they'll ban you. Because you can sign into the EA forums with that same account. However, if they ban them from online play only, it's a fair call and pretty accepted practice. If they ban them from the game altogether... well, that's another story completely, and in my opinion wrong. But of course, that's why it's called an opinion. people are full of them.

Oddly enough it's reminiscent of gun control. The evil-doers will still be packing while the honest folks having a bad day get screwed. Meh, glad I stopped playing games a year ago.
#41 Chosen One on 31 Oct 2008 - 14:54
hopefully this will weed out the children that rant and rave on their and act like little noobs
#42 Turbonium on 31 Oct 2008 - 19:09
Good.

While I don't play any EA games, I can only imagine what the forums are like based on my experience on other gaming forums.

It seems the gaming demographic is often filled with immature people who relish the chance to troll, be insulting, or otherwise unjust in light of their anonymity on the boards. This move will help towards a more productive forum environment, even if a bit more "fake" (much like real life; everyone puts on a face at some level due to the lack of anonymity).
#43 TC17 on 31 Oct 2008 - 23:58
Yeah, they changed they comment because they know it would be illegal for them to do that.

Unfortunately some game companies still get away with this because they figure the person won't sue them over it. Sony/Verant has a history of doing this, banning people from the game for comments made on their message board. I've had it happen to me.
#44 TC17 on 31 Oct 2008 - 23:59
Apparently many here don't seem to understand you BUY THE GAME, you didn't buy the message board. There is no way legally they can tie the two together.

There are plenty of ban happy power monger moderators out there, whether you want to believe it or not.
#45 Atlonite on 01 Nov 2008 - 00:10
Great EA declares Constatution null and void in our forums just aswell i dont buy my EA games then isn't it
#46 lomas on 01 Nov 2008 - 14:09
This is so close to the slogan of EA Games: “ Challenge Everything.”

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