Gates says DRM has 'huge problems'

Microsoft recently held a get together for a small group of high-profile bloggers ahead of the Mix Conference. The bloggers has full access to Microsoft chairman Bill Gates in an hour-long Q&A session and were able to fire off any question under the sun that they wanted to ask.

With Microsoft's 30GB Zune player having been recently released to go head-to-head with Apple's ever-dominant iPod, a topic of discussion pointed towards Digital Rights Management (DRM).Surprisingly, Gates was quite frank on the situation and expressed his disappointment in the overall situation with DRM.

According to Michael Arrington of TechCrunch, Gates noted that DRM "causes too much pain for legitimate buyers" and overall is not an effective solution. He went on to say that "DRM is not where it should be, but you won't get me to say that there should be usage models and different payment models for usage. At the end of the day, incentive systems do make a difference, but we don't have it right with incentives or interoperability."

When it comes to music files, Bill Gates simply had this to say in summary; "People should just buy a CD and rip it. You are legal then."

News source: DailyTech

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When it comes to music files, Bill Gates simply had this to say in summary; “People should just buy a CD and rip it. You are legal then.”

Hes absolutely right. Thats how i do it. Except for cd's with copy protection, i don't buy those, i won't pay for a useless product.

No matter what Bill Gates says or does, the anti-Microsoft or anti-Bill Gates people will never be happy.

Yet, he's only telling us what most of us have known all along and what many (including I) have been doing all alone. Buy a CD and rip it. You're legal and there's no DRM on your files.

wow, I'm quite surprised to hear this from Bill Gates. Maybe we're finally being listened to and they realize DRM isn't very practical and discourages legitimate sales.

Quote - KC said @ #7
He has a right to his own opinion even if it doesn't follow Microsofts views.

Exactly. Bill Gates is not Microsoft, and Microsoft is not Bill Gates.

One day people will wake up and realise that companies are more than just the one guy they always see.

Quote - Kirkburn said @ #7.1

Exactly. Bill Gates is not Microsoft, and Microsoft is not Bill Gates.

One day people will wake up and realise that companies are more than just the one guy they always see.

Exactly. Gates is not overload and be all end all of Microsoft. Hell, the shareholders have more power than him.

This is exactly why he is stepping down soon.

I met him in Montreal in 2002, he's extremely intelligent and it's clear why he is this rich.

Gates also went on to say that "the sky is blue", "things cost money", and "my house is totally bitchin'". He was then interrupted by the legal representative to Captain Obvious, the worlds most useless superhero, who presented him with a cease and desist notice.

In other news, in a move that shocked morons across the globe into violent spasms of tongue-biting agony, scientists and philosophers around the world publicly declared that critical thinking is really good idea.

to me it seems right now Bill Gates is being a hypocrite. Its NOT ok for DRM but its OK for WPA/WGA? eh! Bill?

Gates noted that DRM "causes too much pain for legitimate buyers" and overall is not an effective solution.
This is ALSO the SAME for WPA/WGA..

DL0711 noted that WPA/WGA "causes too much pain for legitimate buyers" and overall is not an effective solution.

dl0711, can I ask you how WPA/WGA "causes too much pain for legitimate buyers"? I have Windows XP, and I format generally once every two months. Activation is fast and easy - key icon pops up in system bar, click, switch off registration, press next maybe once or twice, and finished "your product is now activated".

Also, WPA/WGA is not DRM.

I'm also a legit buyer, I've never had any issues with WGA what-so-ever. Those saying stuff about it mainly want free stuff.

Quote - g0wg said @ #5.2
I have Windows XP, and I format generally once every two months. Activation is fast and easy - key icon pops up in system bar, click, switch off registration, press next maybe once or twice, and finished "your product is now activated".

I haven't tried Vista, but I agree that activation for Windows XP is really no big deal.

Quote - RiVaLSSJ said @ #5.4

I haven't tried Vista, but I agree that activation for Windows XP is really no big deal.

True, and when it is EOL: one might actually find a fix released by Microsoft so that there is no longer a need for activation.

well like vista its not plagged with DRM and anti-piracy measures like WGA that its sorta kind of DRM anyways

Quote - Sheppard said @ #3.1
WGA isnt DRM, its just a way of making sure windows is legitimate, and if it isnt withdraw all support and updates from it.

In other words.. DRM.

Quote - Ghostcool said @ #3.2

In other words.. DRM.


However much you try and tell yourself that they're the same thing, they aren't.

In any case, don't steal.

Quote - Kirkburn said @ #3.3

However much you try and tell yourself that they're the same thing, they aren't.

In any case, don't steal.

Being a fanboy has got to be embarrassing at moments like this. Bill should write you a check, or at least grant to an extra activation or something.

Quote - ogman said @ #3.4
Being a fanboy has got to be embarrassing at moments like this.

How was he being a "fanboy"? Jeeze, you can't even support or prefer another company without being a "fanboy".

It's alright. Ogman, you may want to consider looking up what 'DRM', 'WGA', and 'fanboy' mean before you show us all again what you don't know about technology.

Quote - RiVaLSSJ said @ #3.5

How was he being a "fanboy"? Jeeze, you can't even support or prefer another company without being a "fanboy".
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Well, what is even more stupid, he said nothing to the sort that could be conscrewed as being the slightest bit fanboyish; a statement was made and a correction was issued.

Activation isn't DRM; DRM is digiral rights management, if Microsoft were doing that, each dvd would be locked to the motherboard itself or some other measure that uses a combination of security chips and so forth.

Quote - Marduk said @ #2
Wow he condones personal backups, interesting, thats gotta be worth something to those RIAA turds.

Only if they are made from locked down .wma files!

Quote - Marduk said @ #2
Wow he condones personal backups, interesting, thats gotta be worth something to those RIAA turds.

Yea, Billy G condoning backups makes me feel better about my backup copy of Office 2007 now.

The man isn't an idiot, that's for sure. DRM is not a good thing, and it's good to see him recognise this.

Quote - DomG said @ #1
The man isn't an idiot, that's for sure. DRM is not a good thing, and it's good to see him recognise this.

Correct, he is a crusader. It's just a pitty that he has to run his ideas and thoughts past the shareholders, the board and the EU/DOJ.

Quote - mrmckeb said @ #1.1

Correct, he is a crusader. It's just a pitty that he has to run his ideas and thoughts past the shareholders, the board and the EU/DOJ.

Hahaha! Yeah, he's not an idiot, but you guys might be, if you believe him! The man is a "crusader" FOR DRM and any other way he can find to lock your machine into HIS company. Remember Palladium?

As for DRM causing "too much pain for legitimate buyers," do you think this is an original thought from Gates??? Hell, his customers have been telling him that for years, even before DRM or Activation, or Palladium, or any other crap Microsoft uses to keep their software from being "stolen" by customers who don't want to pay $1500 - $2000 to run Windows on the five computers owned by their family. How long have you two been using computers; about six months? Or maybe your comments we're just veiled sarcasm?

Quote - ogman said @ #1.2
How long have you two been using computers; about six months?

There are plenty of people who have been using computers for years, and have no idea about what DRM is. Your computer usage shows nothing about what you know about DRM.

Quote - ogman said @ #1.2

Hahaha! Yeah, he's not an idiot, but you guys might be, if you believe him! The man is a "crusader" FOR DRM and any other way he can find to lock your machine into HIS company. Remember Palladium?

As for DRM causing "too much pain for legitimate buyers," do you think this is an original thought from Gates??? Hell, his customers have been telling him that for years, even before DRM or Activation, or Palladium, or any other crap Microsoft uses to keep their software from being "stolen" by customers who don't want to pay $1500 - $2000 to run Windows on the five computers owned by their family. How long have you two been using computers; about six months? Or maybe your comments we're just veiled sarcasm?

It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. But nice try anyway.

Quote - Primetime2006 said @ #1.4

It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. But nice try anyway.

Agreed; the worse part; there are dork features here who fail to realise that DRM is use for more than just music, and more to the point, you can actually dictate the terms and conditions on which the file is licenced under with DRM; it isn't just a one sizes fits all - if people want ot blame someone for restrictive DRM, its the company who placed those restrictions on the music file, not the DRM itself.

Blame the shooter, not the gun.