Gates: Windows Vista Has Had 'Incredible Reception'

Microsoft, the world's largest software maker, predicted that consumers would move to Vista faster than they did to past Windows upgrades. The Windows franchise is the centerpiece of Microsoft's business because the company makes more than 75 cents in operating profit for every dollar of sales. Microsoft founder Bill Gates was asked to clarify last week's comments by Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer that analysts' forecasts for fiscal 2008 revenue for the Windows Vista operating system were "overly aggressive". The response was: "People who sell PCs have seen a very nice lift in their sales. People have come in and wanted to buy Vista," Gates told reporters at an Ottawa news conference. Asked by Reuters if there was anything that would make Microsoft cautious about the outlook for Vista, Gates replied: "I don't know what you mean. Vista's had an incredible reception. The reviews have been fantastic. This is a big, big advance in the Windows platform. It's the world's most used piece of software... Overall, the reliability feedback has been, well, better than we expected."

To be honest, I think Bill is a little overly optimistic. Vista will do well, no doubt about that, but to say "incredible reception" and "fantastic reviews" is a little short of exaggeration. On the other hand, Microsoft haters tend to get more attention than anyone else. It makes me wonder, if the feedback they are receiving is better than what they expected, what exactly did Microsoft expect as a response to Vista?

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Either someone is lying to him and he thinks he's telling the truth, or he's being told the truth and is lying to us. Either way, there's an overly fertile imagination and an immense amount of wishful thinking going on somewhere.

It's actually quite hard to find really positive reviews of Vista and there seems to be little if any "wow" going on, despite them trying to paint a picture to the contrary. Even the launch events seemed incapable of building mass interest. My hope is that MS now learn to appreciate that the "oooh look, a transparent window" crowd will only carry them so far. They still need to appease grumpy tight-fisted people like me who want to see value for money.

So far, Vista is the first MS OS that I haven't rushed out to buy and I have no immediate plans to do so. There just isn't enough in it over XP to tempt me. Many of (in fact most) the people I speak to seem to feel the same.

SniperX said,
Either someone is lying to him and he thinks he's telling the truth, or he's being told the truth and is lying to us. Either way, there's an overly fertile imagination and an immense amount of wishful thinking going on somewhere.

Yes, he's starting to sound like a crooked car salesman, just like Ballmer in that Windows 1.0 spot that's now on YouTube :laugh:
Or perhaps he was on Ecstasy or other happy drugs when he said that?

SniperX said,
It's actually quite hard to find really positive reviews of Vista and there seems to be little if any "wow" going on, despite them trying to paint a picture to the contrary. Even the launch events seemed incapable of building mass interest. My hope is that MS now learn to appreciate that the "oooh look, a transparent window" crowd will only carry them so far. They still need to appease grumpy tight-fisted people like me who want to see value for money.

Vista rather seems like Windows 5.2 than Windows 6.0 to me. There are little improvements here and there, but nowhere near as big changes as there were from Win98/Me to WinXP.
Many things still look quite unfinished. I wonder why they needed over 5 years for this!?

SniperX said,
So far, Vista is the first MS OS that I haven't rushed out to buy and I have no immediate plans to do so. There just isn't enough in it over XP to tempt me. Many of (in fact most) the people I speak to seem to feel the same.

I got the cheap oem version to have something to tinker around with, but at least until the driver and apps support has improved, it's not fit for everyday use. Having the flaws fixed that Vista comes with (e.g. Vista Explorer) would be highly desirable as well.

Vista Enterpris was intalled here at the office last month and is being used as our main OS. at first I was hesitant cause I've been using the betas and wasn't really satisfied.

But then again. After using it for about a month. I can say Vista is really a big leap from XP noticing the features

Now I'm using the Ultimate version at home, really can't see the difference from the other edition but I'm loving it.

Don't brag about an OS if you really don't know how to use it.

Yeah some drivers really don't work. but have you tried using xp drivers. most of the times it works.
Apps? do you remember XP on it's first release?

Hmm. looks who's bragging... haha.

XP is good, Vista is better.
If you don't want it then use another OS that might as well be more unfamiliar to you. haha.

Hey hey... please, the focus could be:


For how much more time this old man will continue divulgation of his image as a 30-years-old person????

Hello!!??

Lol!!

Vista looks to be a really nice OS to me, especially for being the first after a major release, as opposed to a "polish release" like XP was over 2000. The only major trouble that clouds the reception of Vista for me is really driver problems, and some other software incompatibilities. Once those are sorted, I think Vista will easily work better than XP.

Funny, every other analysis of Vista sales says it is behind initial XP sales by several percentage points. No one else is claiming there is an upsurge in PC sales because people are buying to get Vista either. Talk about spin, I just dizzy reading this tripe.

I've just gotten myself an Acer Aspire 5680 and normally it would have Vista pre-installed. I demanded Windows Media Center just because I hate switching too fast. Vista is a nice OS (GUI) but it doesn't seem that much special. The laptop is being used for media (duh), programming and browsing ... I don't need Vista to do that. ;)

@Bill: Every new thing is sold better than before. It wouldn't be very "marketing thought" to say otherwise.

J.

OMG !!! What a crap "...It's the world's most used piece of software..." I just switched back to XP !!! The Vista concept it's hmmm ...interesting but not ready for all PC's out there... and a poor software support & even pooooooor DRIVERS support ! Maybe in Q2 2008 it will be ready in 100% compatibility way...
NOW back to XP not so hungry after memory... i hate that the SP3 was delayed :o|

So you are saying vista stinks because third parties cant get their act together?

Vista is a bbig jump over xp. I can record things using media center and burn it to dvd without any third party software. Also the photo gallery and the dvd burning software is a huge thing for me.

The less third aprty apps i need the better.

majortom1981 said,
So you are saying vista stinks because third parties cant get their act together?

Vista is a bbig jump over xp. I can record things using media center and burn it to dvd without any third party software. Also the photo gallery and the dvd burning software is a huge thing for me.

The less third aprty apps i need the better.


I don t say that Vista "stinks" NO ! I just hate that after 5 years of developing the MS kill some beautiful things like Creative EAX and the gameport... I expected maybe to something rely revolutionary but some parts of the Vista are just some inspiration parts from OS X from Apple and I dont like ppls who dont have imagination and copy all stuff from around of them ... i'm to little to take the big picture and show to you
Take a good look at this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8&...ted&search=

Max2Go said,

I don t say that Vista "stinks" NO ! I just hate that after 5 years of developing the MS kill some beautiful things like Creative EAX and the gameport... I expected maybe to something rely revolutionary but some parts of the Vista are just some inspiration parts from OS X from Apple and I dont like ppls who dont have imagination and copy all stuff from around of them ... i'm to little to take the big picture and show to you
Take a good look at this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8&...ted&search=

so because of a moral issue (a.k.a. duplicating features, which all companies do) [EDIT: and a code refresh that improves compatibility and stability but also extended the wait to 5 years and removed a few features] you will now not like Vista :suspicious:

I reckon that once people learn about the new DX desktop, we'll see some very interesting shells and mods.

but that might just be me.

Vista is kinda boring once you get tired of the Aero Glass UI. I mean in Windows XP at least I could change the Visual Style but in Vista I'm stuck with Aero Glass for the next 5 years.

There aren't that many improvements that the average joe will find useful, even the instant search was poorly designed. I would prefer a seperate file name search app to content searching. Most of the time I'm just looking for a filename and don't need the whole bloated content seach.

And when the hell is Windows going to get a REAL File Manager ?

For now I'm sticking with Windows XP with Firefox, Dopus and Avafind, Vista is something I just play around with.

Visual Styles were only able be changed once the uxtheme.dll file got hacked (if you didn't want to use window blinds).

As it stands now, WindowBlinds works in Vista, and there are already hacked uxtheme.dll files for vista floating around and even a few visual styles for Vista, including ones that utilize glass.

So no, you won't be stuck with Aero Glass for the next 5 years as there will be plenty of visual styles created for it once designers figure out all the changes and get designing.

tsahnocub said,
Visual Styles were only able be changed once the uxtheme.dll file got hacked (if you didn't want to use window blinds).

As it stands now, WindowBlinds works in Vista, and there are already hacked uxtheme.dll files for vista floating around and even a few visual styles for Vista, including ones that utilize glass.

So no, you won't be stuck with Aero Glass for the next 5 years as there will be plenty of visual styles created for it once designers figure out all the changes and get designing.

Links please.

hardgiant said,
Vista is kinda boring once you get tired of the Aero Glass UI. I mean in Windows XP at least I could change the Visual Style but in Vista I'm stuck with Aero Glass for the next 5 years.

There aren't that many improvements that the average joe will find useful, even the instant search was poorly designed. I would prefer a seperate file name search app to content searching. Most of the time I'm just looking for a filename and don't need the whole bloated content seach.

And when the hell is Windows going to get a REAL File Manager ?

For now I'm sticking with Windows XP with Firefox, Dopus and Avafind, Vista is something I just play around with.

I don't know what you're talking about. When XP first came out, there was not a plethora of alternate visual styles for it. It wasn't until later that the uxtheme.dll had been hacked and visual style were made. Well, guess what? Vista just came out. You won't by any means be stuck with Aero Glass for 5 years, because you'll be able to switch to visual styles just as easy as you can with XP. The only difference is that the visual styles will become much more advanced in terms of functionality.

Second, Explorer is a REAL file manager. The people who need extra functionality beyond what Explorer provides are a distinct minority. Get over it, and wait for an alternative file browser to be developed for Vista (if one doesn't currently exist).

I would prefer a seperate file name search app to content searching. Most of the time I'm just looking for a filename and don't need the whole bloated content seach.

What, are you saying you've still not found out how to search on file names in Vista?? Try "F3" or Start -> Search. Click "Advanced". Check searching for unindexed files after your needs, and fill in the name field.


Vista supports much more advanced searches than XP's Explorer too, so I don't know what the big deal is..
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/desktopse...s/advanced.mspx

The feedback isn't all that great on many sites already - but he's saying that he expected even worse?

hardgiant said,
And when the hell is Windows going to get a REAL File Manager ?

That's a damn good question! The Vista Explorer is garbage, a clear step back compared to the XP Explorer even (which isn't all that great to begin with).
With the Vista Explorer, you can't costumize the toolbar anymore, and the default toolbar options are utter crap. The window remembers neither size nor position, so the Explorer always appears with default size at the default position. Also, you can't set a costum startup directory anymore. All together, this makes the Vista Explorer totally unusable for everyday work

"incredible reception” and “fantastic reviews” - its not an exaggeration..but its true...

Lot of people tend to know more about Vista...

Home customers are catched by all -in-one multimedia functionalities

And bussiness, as far my opinion will catch into vista within Q3 2007 itself..and 2008 will be great for Vista (and office 2007 too)

I would really doubt any of the computers at my job will be upgraded to Vista any time soon. Not only would they have to purchase the software, but all the hardware upgrades involved would be too costly to justify the move. Maybe when Microsoft drops Windows XP support and stops releasing security updates will businesses really have a need to upgrade.