GM of co.cc subdomain responds to Google takedown

On July 1, Google removed the entire co.cc subdomain from its search results in an effort to combat the spread of malware and spam. Co.cc is infamous for hosting malware landing pages and spam distribution services and Google decided that taking the whole lot of them off of search results caused more benefit than harm. Obviously not too happy about the 10 million or so websites being taken down, the General Manager of the co.cc subdomain, Jason Kim, decided to express his dissatisfaction with the actions Google took.

According to Search Engine Roundtable, he posted his complaint in the Google Webmaster Help forums, and claimed that Google is totally in the wrong for taking down the subdomain. He doesn’t understand why Google needs to punish an entire subdomain for the actions of a few. According to Kim, the “percentage of malicious sites is not over 0.01%.” While the number is eminently debatable, he claims that the staff of co.cc cannot be responsible for the quality of websites on its domain, and that Google should therefore not be taking the good down with the bad.

The most interesting argument he makes, however, is that 70-80% of Blogspot sites deserve to be similarly de-indexed, based on the criteria that Google used to take down co.cc. He doesn’t outright claim that these sites are malware distribution services, but he makes it clear that the same “low-quality sites” are the reason why Google shut down co.cc.

Google gave a warning to webmasters before taking action; this gave legitimate sites time to pack their digital bags and direct their users elsewhere. Google has every right to take down any subdomain it pleases, and as long they gave fair and ample warning to the sites involved, it will be tough for Kim and others associated with co.cc to make a valid case against them.

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Did you know that 100% of web malware originates from the Internet network (the . domain zone)? Let's close it (or remove from search index) to get rid of the malware.

On July 1, Google removed the entire co.cc subdomain from its search results in an effort to combat the spread of malware and spam.

Does not compute.

"the entire co.cc domain" would be acceptable, as would "all subdomains of co.cc". Otherwise, sense, it makes none. Hell, the source even words it correctly.

tomjol said,

Does not compute.

"the entire co.cc domain" would be acceptable, as would "all subdomains of co.cc". Otherwise, sense, it makes none. Hell, the source even words it correctly.

co.cc is a TLD (top-level domain). You can call it domain (like you did), but definitely not subdomain. Subdomain would be: something.example.co.cc

The Stark said,

co.cc is a TLD (top-level domain). You can call it domain (like you did), but definitely not subdomain. Subdomain would be: something.example.co.cc

No, it's not. It's a SLD (Second-level Domain).

+1

And big -1 to Google. Censorship of sites in Goggle's search results isn't different from censorship of Google's search results in China. It's censorship whether political, anti-malware, porno,....

alexalex said,
+1

And big -1 to Google. Censorship of sites in Goggle's search results isn't different from censorship of Google's search results in China. It's censorship whether political, anti-malware, porno,....


It's different if you understand the reasons. China's censorship has to do with political beliefs. Google is de-indexing based on the fact that the content is physically harmful to networks and users. I think there is a significant difference in the two. Another point is that although google is removing that domain from their indexes, other search sites are not. In the case of China, Google was the sole provider of un-censored results. Google censoring their results in China was tantamount to censoring speech.

nubs said,

It's different if you understand the reasons. China's censorship has to do with political beliefs. Google is de-indexing based on the fact that the content is physically harmful to networks and users. I think there is a significant difference in the two. Another point is that although google is removing that domain from their indexes, other search sites are not. In the case of China, Google was the sole provider of un-censored results. Google censoring their results in China was tantamount to censoring speech.

No, it is not different. Tomorrow Google will censor torrent sites, news sites..... a search engine should display ALL results.

Google has every right to take down any subdomain it pleases

Wow, you guys are totally misreporting what is happening here... You can tell by some of the comments that are being left that people are misinterpreting what really happened because of this poor article. The .co.cc domains were removed form googles index, not "taken down"! The sites are still there, there is nothing google can do about that, they are just removed from their search results.

prismatics said,

Wow, you guys are totally misreporting what is happening here... You can tell by some of the comments that are being left that people are misinterpreting what really happened because of this poor article. The .co.cc domains were removed form googles index, not "taken down"! The sites are still there, there is nothing google can do about that, they are just removed from their search results.


Report the problem

booo censorship.

I disagree that google did a good thing.

This is why people are supposed to learn about the dangers of the internetz and have suitable protection for themselves.

Imagine how something like this would play out in the real world, and tell me if you're still OK with it.

dotf said,
booo censorship.

I disagree that google did a good thing.

This is why people are supposed to learn about the dangers of the internetz and have suitable protection for themselves.

Imagine how something like this would play out in the real world, and tell me if you're still OK with it.

Even if I'm not entirely happy with censoring a complete domain for some stupid user I'm sure this move will maybe the move that is required to remove all the spam from his domain.

I'm sure he can change the EULA of his domain.
Google stopped indexing his domain they did not remove their website from internet.

for your real life example there's many example that come to my mind...

Good for Google. However, Google really needs to clean up those referral aggregators that keep legitimate sites from bubbling up to the top of search results. Google knows who they are; but seems to have chose to ignore them.

the better twin said,
Yeah bit rich for google to take sites down while ignoring all the crap on their own network.

What network does Google have? Some of the top results are junk, but I think they've been better lately.

70-80% of Blogspot sites deserve to be similarly de-indexed

While the number is debatable, most blogging sites, including Blogger, should be de-indexed. They are full of malware, pr0n, warez, you name it. Every site should be treated equally.

Of course, some sites are more equal than others.

cralias said,

While the number is debatable, most blogging sites, including Blogger, should be de-indexed. They are full of malware, pr0n, warez, you name it. Every site should be treated equally.

Of course, some sites are more equal than others.

This.

Agreed. I'd say let them take down any site with malware or low-quality sites any time they want. Clear the internet of crud please Google!

dancedar said,
Agreed. I'd say let them take down any site with malware or low-quality sites any time they want. Clear the internet of crud please Google!

Did you know that 100% of Internet malware originates from the Internet network (the . domain zone)? Let's close it to get rid of the malware.

I can understand why he is moaning, but as far as I am concerned if he knows he has spam on his hosting machines and is doing nothing about it (although there is no proof to say he isn't) then he has no one to blame but himself.

Dark Atheist said,
I can understand why he is moaning, but as far as I am concerned if he knows he has spam on his hosting machines and is doing nothing about it (although there is no proof to say he isn't) then he has no one to blame but himself.

Hosting =/= Domain

Anooxy said,

Hosting =/= Domain


Either way if he knows he has it and isn't doing anything that its his own fault and he should cry him a river

Dark Atheist said,

Either way if he knows he has it and isn't doing anything that its his own fault and he should cry him a river

What do you mean by 'he has it' ... domain names don't host content, they simply redirect to IP addresses where the content is hosted. How would he do anything about it, exactly?

sabrex said,

What do you mean by 'he has it' ... domain names don't host content, they simply redirect to IP addresses where the content is hosted. How would he do anything about it, exactly?

cancel the accounts, also if people read the article properly

Co.cc is infamous for hosting malware landing pages and spam distribution services

Dark Atheist said,

cancel the accounts, also if people read the article properly

Co.cc is infamous for hosting malware landing pages and spam distribution services


Let's close all .com domains too. They have more malware.

RealFduch said,

Let's close all .com domains too. They have more malware.

Now your just being stupid, i said close the accounts of users known to be distributing malware, not the whole .co.cc

Yup, as long as a warning and explanation was issued to the relevant parties in addition to a fair amount of time to move along. Malware landing pages and spam distribution services? Not wanted nor needed.