Google+ gaining traction, may soon rule the world

When Google+ was released a mere year and a half ago, it was met with some fanfare by the technology world, but most people shrugged their shoulders and went on with their life. The new offering was seen as a replacement for Facebook by some, as a merger of Facebook and Twitter by others, and as a “too little, too late” by most.

So how much traction has Google+ gained in the past 18 months? According to Brad Feld at Venture Beat, it’s slowly been creeping into all of Google’s products, and their slow-game strategy is brilliant. He points out that features from Google+, such as circles and hangouts, have been making their way into his normal Gmail workflow. He also brings up the point that he’s using Google Voice as his phone number, but we’re not sure what that has to do with Google+. His findings are similar to our own: We even held our first ever Google+ Hangout less than a month ago.

It’s unclear whether Google+ will ever supplant Facebook as the social media platform of choice, but it’s also not clear whether that’s Google’s goal. It’ll be interesting to see how much further Google+ expands over the next 18 months. Do you find yourself using the social media platform more frequently as time goes on?

Source: Venturebeat

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Back in the early 1990s, there was a controversy where the long distance telephone providers tried to con people into switching to their service. They would use call-in contests, seem to take no information, and next thing you know, you're getting an enormous long distance bill from a company you don't even know you're doing business with. (This happened to my family once. AT&T did it to us.)

I don't recall how that was resolved, but isn't this in the same vein of unwittingly signing people up to services?

I've been using Google+ with a bunch of my buddies.

The only downside is that the inbuilt Messenger is only available in mobile apps and not on the desk-side website.

only because they force you to have a G+ account if you want to comment or use Youtube, or any of the other services.

My G+ account has a fake name, I'm already half way out of Gmail so Youtube is the only one left

Sorry, but I have no interest in giving what's left of my private info to a company whose only goal in life is to be Uncle Sam's right-hand bitch at data harvesting.

Nope. It ****es me off too. I can't review anything on Google because it makes me sign up for their ****.

They're turning out to be real **** ***** Google.

I would say its misleading to suggest Google+ is gaining traction, but it might be gaining usage through integration and trickery. Heck, I have never once in my life heard a person mention it in public and I live in the freaking city where it's developed.

I just started using Vimeo. YouTube is the last Google product that I need to wean myself off of. That's kind of how I started using Bing, I waited until everything I was searching for could be found, and then I dumped Google.com.

bucko said,
Bet you don't block google analytic tracking cookies. If not you are still using one of their products.

you lose.

Google Analytics and every other ad/analytic/cookie thing are totally blocked here.

last thing i remember about google and google plus was this sentence Close your account and all services associated with it .... something like that

Google+ banned by more than 40,000 client systems, and growing.

Gmail banned by more than 25,000 client systems, most including user policies that forbid responding to external users with Gmail addresses.

Why? Go read Google terms of service. Additionally do your own testing of how Google stores and allows access to confidential information.

Tiny numbers, sure, but our clients are not the only ones implementing these policies, and the impact is these policies 'important' companies and the limitation of even responding to or allowing correspondence with Google users.

If you are doing business with a GMail account or forwarding a GDoc, don't expect any major company to take you seriously or even allow employees to respond to you.

thenetavenger said,
Why? Go read Google terms of service. Additionally do your own testing of how Google stores and allows access to confidential information.

It's pretty similar to the TOS for just about any Web service outside of Google's control. For instance, you grant Yahoo! the right to "...the perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

To clear up the mystery of why Internet services use such scary terms, let's look at the sentence right before that one and the sentence right after Google's clause as found in Google's actual TOS (Section 11.1)

"You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services."

That already sounds a little less scary, doesn't it? You still own the copyright. The sentence after the one describing the non-exclusive rights you give Google:

"This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services."

In order for Web apps like blogs and photo sharing sites to work, they need your permission to publish the content, modify it for new formats (like when YouTube converts your video to an mpeg video), and make copies of it for publication on different screens. That's all. It goes on in the Terms to explain that the license ends when you close your account.

You can read this for further clarification: http://www.techdirt.com/articl...sites-including-gmail.shtml

thenetavenger said,
If you are doing business with a GMail account or forwarding a GDoc, don't expect any major company to take you seriously or even allow employees to respond to you.

Yeah, OK. http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/customers/

For the record my company uses it all the time. Ironically we also use Box.net (they use Google Apps in case you didn't know) too. I've never heard a more ridiculous statement before in my life. Please cite your bogus claims. It is very hard to take what you say seriously. Just saying.

I have a Google+ account, and honestly, Google+ is the social network I'm on the least. I personally do like the concept of Google+... but there's no point in being there if no one else I know is there.

I used to think like you but I decided let me use it to discover other people. I mean seriously, how boring would it be if your friends were all using FB, G+ and Twitter? So are you going to "Like" it, "+1" it and "RT" the same boring thing they've repeated? Try to be open to something new. If you don't find a different use, hey at least you were open minded about something and outside of your comfort zone.

That's how I was with Tumblr. I joined Tumblr knowing only one person at the time, and it ended up changing my life. Don't try to lecture me about being open-minded. The rest of what you're saying, I don't understand.

I suppose that last sentence in my comment might've given off the wrong idea, but what I had meant is that there was not enough interesting things for me on there. Sure, the occasional post, I'll find interesting, and part of it also lies in what I'm following there. If I find anything that interests me more on Google+ that I won't find on other social networks, I might go there more.

I just got rid of my gmail account a few hours back. I'm 100% google free as well, feels so good!

I wonder what happened to their mantra, not being evil? Sorry, but I just don't trust google.

SiLeNtDeAtH said,
I hadn't done that yet, but thanks for the reminder. Next time I change my key I'll update the SSIDs at the same time.

Sweet. I just wanted to make sure you're a slave to that name change.

I love using it! So simple to use, I love reading other junks. Oh wait, I don't have an account! What are we talking about again?????

so I was on youtube the other day,and I wanted to make a post. I haven't made a comment in a long time. So after I log in, I'm immediately presented with a popup that's begging me to convert my account to google+. And the worst part, trying to exit this thing is hell. Even if I clicked cancel or whatever, it wouldn't let me post. It would pop back up,and the only way I got rid of it was until I somehow navigated through a couple of pages and found out where I can explicitly say no. It is so much easier to just say yes,and since you're on youtube posting, this is counted as you being an active user of google+. What a bunch of croc.

If by gaining traction you mean forcing people who have no intention of using it to sign up then I agree with you

Don't feel bad. When you read the comments of most stories on this site, I see a lot of people are out of the loop or are trapped in a bubble. So I guess you are among the popular on this site, if it's any consolation.

I really do hope this happens- while neither Google nor Facebook are known for treating users' private info with much courtesy, I have to admit that I think Google+ is the lesser of two evils.
Also, its hangout feature is actually surprisingly good. I wish people would give it a fair shot. I'm sick of Facebook's lack of innovation.

I have a G+ account. I get emails every so often about people I might know. I tried to make them stop sending me those emails but I don't remember my google password... shows how much I use their services...

Until businesses start taking it seriously, they won't surpass facebook. Unless G+ can supplant "Like us on facebook" I don't see people leaving facebook.

So you set up Gmail to be forwarded to another email account I guess. I'm also guessing that email account is going to be an Outlook.com or it is your own domain to sound different. Am I correct in my presumptions?

Curious as to what any of that would have to do with anything...

You a G+ fan, hurt that your favorite service isn't being used by anyone?

spenser.d said,
I have a G+ account. I get emails every so often about people I might know. I tried to make them stop sending me those emails but I don't remember my google password... shows how much I use their services...
The emails you would get would be in Gmail. If you are checking you're Gmail then you should know the password. Correct? Otherwise what I sated is correct. Just checking to make sure you do know it is the same password and at the same time why you would create a service just to forward to a different email if you never used that email before. That makes no sense to me. What services you use has no affect on me. And to say it isn't being used by anyone, that is a bit of FUD. You did read the article right?

Honestly I created an Outlook.com account. But since I don't use their service, their is no reason to forward that account to my Gmail. Furthermore, there would be no need to give anyone that email address.

If you followed me thus far, then you can see why I smell B.S.

Wrong. I figured it out. I created a G+ account using my outlook.com email address. I don't have a gmail address attached to the google account that G+ is attached to.

I guess I now count as an active user for January, huh... gaining traction!

You wouldn't be counted as an active user since you are not active. What people like you confuse is that active users doesn't mean you only just signed up.

I can't see anywhere on the site to signup just using my Outlook.com email address. It's telling me to create (or sign in) using @Gmail.

DoomsDayMayan said,
You wouldn't be counted as an active user since you are not active. What people like you confuse is that active users doesn't mean you only just signed up.

I can't see anywhere on the site to signup just using my Outlook.com email address. It's telling me to create (or sign in) using @Gmail.

Active as I signed in and browsed the service a bit. I guarantee you that counts as active. And they may have changed things. I signed up and created that account back when you had to be invited, but its an account using my outlook email, not any Gmail.

Obviously... ever since Google converted EVERYBODY into a Google+ account, anybody with a quasi-active Google service account will get counted as part of these stats moving forward.

Nothing to see here. Keep moving...

Nas said,
Obviously... ever since Google converted EVERYBODY into a Google+ account, anybody with a quasi-active Google service account will get counted as part of these stats moving forward.

Nothing to see here. Keep moving...

Exactly... forcing people into the service does not make them members.... its why I didn't question the 200million that "signed" up.

auziez said,

Exactly... forcing people into the service does not make them members.... its why I didn't question the 200million that "signed" up.

Additionally add in how many people have Gmail addresses ONLY because it is required to activate an Android device, and never used.

I use Twitter, Facebook and Google+ regularly in different ways. They are all great platforms in my opinion. I use Facebook for friends and family (let's face it, that's where everybody is). I use Twitter for News and one or two celebrities that I adore. Google+ I started using a lot more lately. I found a lot of interesting people on the tech side that I enjoy reading. I would say Google+ is where I am likely to engage other people in while Twitter and Facebook I tend to be silent and RT and Like things without actually writing anything.

Technically inclined people use it because it's not Facebook, because Facebook is bad and will steal your information, rot your brain and desecrate your corpse. The rest of folks don't care, which of two does that.

Google is enforcing it upon the rest of the folks. It is well within its rights to do so, but there isn't any "long game" or "brilliance" there. Just being late to the gig and creeping in.

When it first appeared, a bunch of wanna-be smart wanna-be analysts people said exactly the same - let's wait and see. It was annoying back then already. What good does it give me to wait? Stop acting smart or take a chance, take a side. Everybody can wait and see.

Phouchg said,
Technically inclined people use it because it's not Facebook, because Facebook is bad and will steal your information, rot your brain and desecrate your corpse. The rest of folks don't care, which of two does that.

Google is enforcing it upon the rest of the folks. It is well within its rights to do so, but there isn't any "long game" or "brilliance" there. Just being late to the gig and creeping in.

When it first appeared, a bunch of wanna-be smart wanna-be analysts people said exactly the same - let's wait and see. It was annoying back then already. What good does it give me to wait? Stop acting smart or take a chance, take a side. Everybody can wait and see.

Technically inclined people realize that Facebook is a 'public' board and understand that you don't post or provide information that you don't want distributed to friends and/or customers.

Technically inclined people also don't buy into the FUD and Myths that float around about Facebook, which protects your information better than using a Gmail account to send private email messages.

My usage of Google+ has decreased with 100% compared to last year. Last year I found out I had a Google+ account, logged in, looked around and logged out. This year I've not even logged into my Gmail account (although my Phone's mail app does stil sync with it).

All this silent, slow integration... I wonder when they will force me to create that damn account. I only use YouTube, Gmail and a little Google Drive. I'm pretty sure, though. Sooner or later, I'll have to create it for some reason they will find.

I can dump Google Drive and Gmail, but I hope they won't force me through YouTube.

PC EliTiST said,
All this silent, slow integration... I wonder when they will force me to create that damn account. I only use YouTube, Gmail and a little Google Drive. I'm pretty sure, though. Sooner or later, I'll have to create it for some reason they will find.

I can dump Google Drive and Gmail, but I hope they won't force me through YouTube.


They already try to but if you take it slow enough you can avoid it, although it can still confuse you into doing it and automatically creates you an account. It's annoying as hell.

With the way Google is behaving themselves for last couple of years, I feel very reluctant to rely on their products or start relying on any new service of theirs.

But I do have a G+ account, Gmail and all the other shebang like almost everyone else nowadays, just not using G+.

Me too. I only have use me Google account when I HAVE to, primarily I just use my Microsoft/Outlook account for everything.

when released a study showed that around like 90 percent were 20 year old males.. hes just wondering if it is still that way..

Lachlan said,
when released a study showed that around like 90 percent were 20 year old males.. hes just wondering if it is still that way..

Yep, I was indeed referring to that.

So now that Google+ has worked its way into Gmail, he uses it to augment his e-mail. That doesn't mean he's using Google+, it just means that now it's tied in to a service that people actually use.

Social media is the most anti-social invention of all times.
You pretend you're socializing and others pretend they are your friends. So everybody can pretend and show off crap to everybody else.

actually I have real friends on facebook.. that is how we plan to get together.. things like facebook make it really easy to get together with groups of like 20 or 30 people all at the same place..

if you don't have friends on facebook that is user error.. you are not guaranteed friends just by joining..

Lachlan said,
actually I have real friends on facebook.. that is how we plan to get together.. things like facebook make it really easy to get together with groups of like 20 or 30 people all at the same place..

if you don't have friends on facebook that is user error.. you are not guaranteed friends just by joining..

Maybe you're the type of person with 'a lot of friends' anyway... People that you don't even really know, but you get together. It is like real life. You would have those friends or mates with or without Facebook... As you said, "you are not guaranteed friends just by joining", but I do know that you're guaranteed to see a lot of BS and suffer from a lot of exposure to whoever has access to your profile: people that you may like and people that you think are nice but they want to have access to your life only. On Facebook it is easy to do that.

Also, close friends don't need to be updated through the internet, nor you have to contact them through Facebook to throw parties or whatever. I think you know that.
People feel the urge to show happiness and share BS all the time. THAT is not real life and it's gross, as much as being serialized by pictures in a catalogue and choosing people to "participate" in your life with a button click.
Too much hassle for too little benefit.

Luis Mazza said,
Social media is the most anti-social invention of all times.
You pretend you're socializing and others pretend they are your friends. So everybody can pretend and show off crap to everybody else.

This really depends on how you use it. Give a man a fishing rod and he may not use it for fishing.

Mikeffer said,

This really depends on how you use it. Give a man a fishing rod and he may not use it for fishing.

True. But being (even apparently) at the disposal of anyone and having to deny or accept "virtual friendships" that sometimes you don't give a damn is not a headache that I want for me.

I love Facebook because it helps me keep in touch with friends and family who I might not hear from very often due to distance or time, or just catch up with good friends more often than I otherwise would.

I'm not "pretending" anything when using it. As for showing happiness all the time, who does that? Pretty sure most people share their unhappiness or grief on Facebook too, and I think some people do so more willingly than they might in real life, which can be healthy.

Maybe it doesn't suit your particular lifestyle, but for plenty of people it's great. As for arranging parties etc., sure you can do it without Facebook, but it's a hell of a lot quicker and easier, and things usually go much smoother.

And they aren't "virtual friendships" either - nobody forces you to add people who aren't actual friends, and if people do want virtual friendships, then why not. If ignoring people gives you a headache, then that's not Facebook's fault. Why don't you just get rid of your phone too? Ignoring SMS from people must hurt your head as well.

If your "friends" only pretend they are your friends, if they pretend to be happy if they aren't, if they brag and post BS all the time, and if seeing other people happy bothers you, then maybe the problem is you and your "friends", not Facebook. Don't kill the messenger

Luis Mazza said,

True. But being (even apparently) at the disposal of anyone and having to deny or accept "virtual friendships" that sometimes you don't give a damn is not a headache that I want for me.

I love Facebook because it helps me keep in touch with friends and family who I might not hear from very often due to distance or time, or just catch up with good friends more often than I otherwise would.

I'm not "pretending" anything when using it. As for showing happiness all the time, who does that? Pretty sure most people share their unhappiness or grief on Facebook too, and I think some people do so more willingly than they might in real life, which can be healthy.

Maybe it doesn't suit your particular lifestyle, but for plenty of people it's great. As for arranging parties etc., sure you can do it without Facebook, but it's a hell of a lot quicker and easier, and things usually go much smoother.

And they aren't "virtual friendships" either - nobody forces you to add people who aren't actual friends, and if people do want virtual friendships, then why not. If ignoring people gives you a headache, then that's not Facebook's fault. Why don't you just get rid of your phone too? Ignoring SMS from people must hurt your head as well.

If your "friends" only pretend they are your friends, if they pretend to be happy if they aren't, if they brag and post BS all the time, and if seeing other people happy bothers you, then maybe the problem is you and your "friends", not Facebook. Don't kill the messenger

dvb2000 said,
Gaining no traction here. They spammed me with their G+ stuff, so I deleted my G+ profile.

Problem solved

Exactly... as soon as they forced me to link my google+ account + real name etc to google map reviews I deleted my account. I would like my reviews to remain anonymous thank you very much!