Google passing on European user data to the US

Google has admitted that they have also passed on European user data to United States intelligence agencies, much in the same way that Microsoft’s UK managing director, Gordon Frazer said that they have been compelled to do, when the US government requests it, no matter where the data is hosted around the world.

According to Softpedia, Google said that they have been compelled to comply with requests from US intelligence agencies to reveal data stored amongst its European data centers, a move which could well be a violation of European Union data protection laws.

Softpedia stated that the main problem lies with the USA PATRIOT ACT, which tells companies that are incorporated in the United States that they have to hand over data which has been administered by their foreign subsidiaries if they are requested to do so.

In June this year, Microsoft admitted that they had been passing on European customer data from its Office 365 cloud service to various US government departments, which caught the eyes of various members of the European Parliament who said that they were concerned by the news. They are now highly likely to start an official inquiry into the news.

European Union legislation requires that companies must protect the personal information of EU citizens, something, it seems that companies such as Google and Microsoft cannot do.

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Obviously this is not the matter of companies, but that of diplomacy and international law. Also, cloud computing in this perspective brings one more counter-argument in favor of an alternative to shifting confidential data to overseas servers.

*SIGH* - would you rather have the Government (US or otherwise) officially request for this information or would you rather the Government just use other means to harvest the data without anyone knowing otherwise?

They can come and get my data, phone numbers, IP addresses, Hard Drives, etc all they want as I'm not hiding anything or doing anything illegal....

marinejld said,

They can come and get my data, phone numbers, IP addresses, Hard Drives, etc all they want as I'm not hiding anything or doing anything illegal....

I love responses like this. Sooo naive.

marinejld said,
*SIGH* - would you rather have the Government (US or otherwise) officially request for this information or would you rather the Government just use other means to harvest the data without anyone knowing otherwise?

They can come and get my data, phone numbers, IP addresses, Hard Drives, etc all they want as I'm not hiding anything or doing anything illegal....

Exactly, if you are an average user, what are you doing that you don't want the government to find out about?

UndergroundWire said,

Exactly, if you are an average user, what are you doing that you don't want the government to find out about?

First and foremost: what government? If you are an EU citizen there are laws protecting your privacy and all these Hoover's worshippers from other Countries have no rights to get them.

Enjoy the 'Cloud"........ where you pay to have all your information stored and available to th highest bidder............. with or without your consent of course.

Sometimes I am so happy to be old......

Fritzly said,

First and foremost: what government? If you are an EU citizen there are laws protecting your privacy and all these Hoover's worshippers from other Countries have no rights to get them.

Enjoy the 'Cloud"........ where you pay to have all your information stored and available to th highest bidder............. with or without your consent of course.

Sometimes I am so happy to be old......

OMG! Invasion of privacy. Please. I haven't seen any repercussions on the average "web surfer".

Credit card companies do much worse with data they collect. They judge your credit limit based on your spending habits. That has repercussions.

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel...ies-are-watching-you-486272

And what do you mean you're happy to be old? In what context? I'm trying to wrap my head around that statement.

UndergroundWire said,

And what do you mean you're happy to be old? In what context? I'm trying to wrap my head around that statement.

I assumed he meant old, as in using his 486 DX2 PC in his nursing home.

kizzaaa said,

I assumed he meant old, as in using his 486 DX2 PC in his nursing home.


I assumed he meant he's one foot in the grave and can't wait to die so he doesn't have to see what "horrible" things the US government will do with this info.

Not that I find this acceptable, but the article says that they are required to do this by law. And in many countries, they are forced to release specific pieces of information as well. Im not even sure the EU law prevents the info from being stored outside the EU for EU users. It's an American company after all.

I remember google setting up a page / map with the number of requests from governments from all over the world:

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/

Julius Caro said,
Not that I find this acceptable, but the article says that they are required to do this by law. And in many countries, they are forced to release specific pieces of information as well. Im not even sure the EU law prevents the info from being stored outside the EU for EU users. It's an American company after all.

I remember google setting up a page / map with the number of requests from governments from all over the world:

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/

EU law requires any data stored overseas to be stored in a company that is part of the "Safe Harbour" agreement.

If it's not there's trouble.

Derges said,

EU law requires any data stored overseas to be stored in a company that is part of the "Safe Harbour" agreement.

If it's not there's trouble.

That statement is not as black and white as you suggest.

Some businesses and industries cannot apply for safe habour status (such as telecommunications).

Lol, I fear the US is going to cause the next 3rd Word War one of these days. These kids will never grow up out of their asses.

/hides before the FBI/CIA comes looking for me in Latin America.

oh, please. If you place some information on Internet, it's not yours anymore. It doesn't matter, where it hosted: by MS, Google or VPS from some provider. Want to keep it secret and not available to everyone - place it on your server in your datacenter... (assuming, you are not going to be hacked).

cpu said,
oh, please. If you place some information on Internet, it's not yours anymore. It doesn't matter, where it hosted: by MS, Google or VPS from some provider. Want to keep it secret and not available to everyone - place it on your server in your datacenter... (assuming, you are not going to be hacked).

It's not so much the data on each of the companies which is the problem, it's the data those companies may have been using cloud services to host or edit. Clients of those companies didn't ask for their details to be passed to Uncle Sam.

I don't care

So the FBI knows where I live, my occupation, date of birth and full name - what are they going to do with it? Sweet fa that's what

I don't know why people cry about privacy so much... it's not like an FBI Agent is going to come up to your doorstep and start discussing personal aspects of your life.

Hardcore Til I Die said,
I don't care

So the FBI knows where I live, my occupation, date of birth and full name - what are they going to do with it? Sweet fa that's what

I don't know why people cry about privacy so much... it's not like an FBI Agent is going to come up to your doorstep and start discussing personal aspects of your life.

Hey, if an FBI agent wants to give me advice on how to run a business, so be it *lol*

Hardcore Til I Die said,

I don't know why people cry about privacy so much... it's not like an FBI Agent is going to come up to your doorstep and start discussing personal aspects of your life.

Until you make some comment they find threatening, and you wake up one morning in Guantanamo Bay.

Don't say it can't happen, because it HAS. Citizens of other countries HAVE been kidnapped under so called "terrorist charges" and taken to such places, it's called Extraordinary Rendition.

Hardcore Til I Die said,
I don't care

So the FBI knows where I live, my occupation, date of birth and full name - what are they going to do with it? Sweet fa that's what

I don't know why people cry about privacy so much... it's not like an FBI Agent is going to come up to your doorstep and start discussing personal aspects of your life.

Wouldn't it be funny though if they come up to you and tell you "Is everything OK with you and your partner? I see you've visited this XXX movie site 20 times a week for the past three weeks."

Hardcore Til I Die said,
I don't care

So the FBI knows where I live, my occupation, date of birth and full name - what are they going to do with it? Sweet fa that's what

I don't know why people cry about privacy so much... it's not like an FBI Agent is going to come up to your doorstep and start discussing personal aspects of your life.

Please tell me you dont vote because omg I want to smash my face into a wall when I read nonsense like this. Do you even comprehend what you are typing? I guess you just wanna live in a facis... wait we already do.

Shame. Couldn't really give a ****. Whenever hacktivists protest things like this by bringing down websites everyone complains so we may as well allow the benevolent US government to have the data because they don't do anything with it (Lots of sarcasm)

What's up with all these obviously stupid trolls claiming Google is collecting all it can eat for themselves or US government agencies?

Oh wait...

Dermot said,
Time for America to learn what privacy is.

America is too dumb to learn anything. They still elect republicans every 8 years to sink em further into economic turmoil.

Beyond Godlike said,

America is too dumb to learn anything. They still elect republicans every 8 years to sink em further into economic turmoil.

LOL. As much as I want bash Republicans, each party is at fault.

I wish I could find the source for this article but it was something like 40% of Congress has bad credit. And these are the people we rely on in the U.S. to balance the budget.

Beyond Godlike said,

America is too dumb to learn anything. They still elect republicans every 8 years to sink em further into economic turmoil.

I didn't know Obama is a Republican.

Beyond Godlike said,

America is too dumb to learn anything. They still elect republicans every 8 years to sink em further into economic turmoil.

HERE HERE good sir i agree

time for each region to have its own search engine..... Google for the US, Euoogle for european states..... Asuoogle for asian countries, Ruoogle for russia.....

Stewart Gilligan Griffin said,
time for each region to have its own search engine..... Google for the US, Euoogle for european states..... Asuoogle for asian countries, Ruoogle for russia.....

I think the last thing Euorpe wants to do is have any US search engine be their default, same thing will just happen again.

efjay said,

I think the last thing Euorpe wants to do is have any US search engine be their default, same thing will just happen again.

wasn't that my point? hence why everyone will have their own knock off version of google?

Stewart Gilligan Griffin said,
time for each region to have its own search engine..... Google for the US, Euoogle for european states..... Asuoogle for asian countries, Ruoogle for russia.....

Russia already has Яndex which was creted before google and recently had IPO.